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June 23, 2014, 09:14:12 PM |
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Serious concerns and HUGE issues about Darkcoin:
. Why didn't the dev stop and make a new coin after the instamine?
. Why would anyone,group, or company use a coin with a name like Darkcoin?
. Can't Darkcoin masternodes be centralized by a group?
. Can't Darkcoin's masternodes "anonymity" be undone if one were to own the majority of masternodes?
. Isn't Darkcoin just a Litecoin fork?
. Didn't Darkcoin start off only with Linux wallets at launch?
. Didn't Darkcoin creators an a few friends instamine Darkcoin 50% with 500 coins per block in the first 24 hours?
. Don't the devs own 50% of Darkcoins right now, or over 2million Darkcoins from the instamine?
. Isn't Darkcoin's coinjoin method Not anonymous?
. Why use Darkcoin when there are coins that are already anonymous?
. Is Darkcoin being pumped/dumped by a set group of whales, who are also the ones keeping the price afloat whenever a dump happens?
. Can't Darkcoin's masternodes be compromised by hackers, since the IP addresses and locations of such nodes are public?
. Can't the 1000 darkcoin's needed for a masternode be stolen, as it already has been as reported from 1 individual before?
. Isn't Darkcoin just another pump and dump coin?
. Isn't Darkcoin's x11 algo just as easy to make ASIC's for as scrypt was?
. Isn't Darkcoin's x11 algo very inefficient as it only takes up 50% of a GPU miner's power, which also results in less hashrate and less coins being found?
. and 10000000x more issues with Darkcoin.
I agree with you completely. Evan Duffield may or may not be honest, but he is defenitely NOT a specialist, NOT a new Satoshi Nakamoto. But how do you think why people do still beleive in him? |
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illodin
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June 23, 2014, 09:20:53 PM |
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As a merchant and a soon to be exchange operator Monero's bloat problems are massive issues. If it ever reaches mass adoption I will have to dedicate extra hardware and bandwidth for their blockchain or resort to using a centralized blockchain which defeats a lot of the advantages in my opinion.
The bloat is caused by dust transactions, recently a upgrade was made for pools to stop dust transactions. AKA problem is solved. Even then, Ring Signature anonymity is Much much better than coinjoin/masternode anonymity.. How can you be so certain, considering Evan hasn't announced all the details on RC4? Monero also uses a lot of computer resources, and it's uncertain whether it can scale. It's a very new technology, so you'd have to be naive to say it's perfect. Monero won't be anywhere near complete for 6 months minimum. Likely closer to a year. If you're a merchant, it's very easy to start accepting a bitcoin clone. Not so easy if you want to accept monero. There's just so much infrastructure and support ready for bitcoin and its clones that the uphill monero has to climb is a hudge one compared to the alleged gain in anonymity. Monero can become big in 1-3 years if it has similar infrastructure that bitcoin has been building the last years (doable I guess with a lots of work), its inflation has been tamed down (when is the 1st halving btw?), and drk hasn't been advancing at all (not likely). And all this assuming its problems are actually fixable. |
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June 23, 2014, 09:22:11 PM |
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new IP address for test P2P Pool : http://54.213.244.5:18998/static/test pool working now. -- connection string: sgminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://54.213.244.5:18998 -u mt2ScQSwpsohN8KC9CuFGCuCuvyJkCY8iEn1K5Y5JGe5svtfmrJ6J9McsZPJdWXPvuRq -p 1 |
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AlexGR
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June 23, 2014, 09:28:52 PM |
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Serious concerns and HUGE issues about Darkcoin:[/b]
Are you serious? You are promoting Monero and then claiming to have concerns for Darkcoin? Here, for your concerns: http://wiki.darkcoin.eu/wiki/FAQStill waiting for your Monero responses. I agree with you completely. Evan Duffield may or may not be honest, but he is defenitely NOT a specialist, NOT a new Satoshi Nakamoto.
Ahh... so Evan isn't Nakamoto and that's a minus... Please tell us what coin devs are on Nakamoto's level and beyond? Monero's? |
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DASH is the future of crypto payments!
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June 23, 2014, 09:30:55 PM |
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BE SMART, USE DASH ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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roede94105
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June 23, 2014, 09:32:21 PM |
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Serious concerns and HUGE issues about Darkcoin:[/b]
Are you serious? You are promoting Monero and then claiming to have concerns for Darkcoin? Here, for your concerns: http://wiki.darkcoin.eu/wiki/FAQStill waiting for your Monero responses. I agree with you completely. Evan Duffield may or may not be honest, but he is defenitely NOT a specialist, NOT a new Satoshi Nakamoto.
Ahh... so Evan isn't Nakamoto and that's a minus... Please tell us what coin devs are on Nakamoto's level and beyond? Monero's? Cmon, we all know Auroracoin's dev is Natoshi Sakamoto  |
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salmion
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June 23, 2014, 09:35:50 PM |
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13mh on p2pool from surprisingly warm england |
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June 23, 2014, 09:48:59 PM |
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Some hash power from me too |
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Anduril_FotW
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June 23, 2014, 09:49:36 PM |
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Serious concerns and HUGE issues about Darkcoin:
. Why didn't the dev stop and make a new coin after the instamine?
. Why would anyone,group, or company use a coin with a name like Darkcoin?
. Can't Darkcoin masternodes be centralized by a group?
. Can't Darkcoin's masternodes "anonymity" be undone if one were to own the majority of masternodes?
. Isn't Darkcoin just a Litecoin fork?
. Didn't Darkcoin start off only with Linux wallets at launch?
. Didn't Darkcoin creators an a few friends instamine Darkcoin 50% with 500 coins per block in the first 24 hours?
. Don't the devs own 50% of Darkcoins right now, or over 2million Darkcoins from the instamine?
. Isn't Darkcoin's coinjoin method Not anonymous?
. Why use Darkcoin when there are coins that are already anonymous?
. Is Darkcoin being pumped/dumped by a set group of whales, who are also the ones keeping the price afloat whenever a dump happens?
. Can't Darkcoin's masternodes be compromised by hackers, since the IP addresses and locations of such nodes are public?
. Can't the 1000 darkcoin's needed for a masternode be stolen, as it already has been as reported from 1 individual before?
. Isn't Darkcoin just another pump and dump coin?
. Isn't Darkcoin's x11 algo just as easy to make ASIC's for as scrypt was?
. Isn't Darkcoin's x11 algo very inefficient as it only takes up 50% of a GPU miner's power, which also results in less hashrate and less coins being found?
. and 10000000x more issues with Darkcoin.
I agree with you completely. Evan Duffield may or may not be honest, but he is defenitely NOT a specialist, NOT a new Satoshi Nakamoto. But how do you think why people do still beleive in him? Whahahaha !!! So Darkcoin is a pump & dump coin ? And the 3412 anon clones Mintpal has launched since Darkcoin became popular are not  So that's also why all those coins like Crypt and Cloak and other sh*tcoins have forums full of fake posts that are only targeting the emotions of newbies and trying to get them to invest their entire savings in a worthless piece of nothingness. To me it seems that up to date, Darkcoin has been the only alt coin I know that has NOT YET shown any significant dumping. That actually amazed me, because I was waiting for the price to come down to get in, but it didn't !!! So must be something there right ? And like Bitcoin has shown, you don't need to have the best technology right away. You just have to be the FIRST one to come up with it and keep developing from there on. And what is this constant blabbing about premining If I was a developer and was intending to make my life's work out of developing a coin and not abandoning it, I would make damn sure I first mined alot of coins myself to make it worth my while ! I don't blame em ! They're doing the work !!! I'm just waiting for the price to go up just like 100.000 other investors. So please, just also buy a bag full of DRK besides whatever other coin you have and hope that all of them will succeed. My philosophy is that for every new coin hype up untill now, the first one to really work on this new idea is the one to invest in. So that's Blackcoin and NXT for the POS coins, DRK for the anon coins, XRP for the payment protocols, LTC as the first alt coin and BTC as the one coin to rule them all  |
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qwizzie
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June 23, 2014, 09:52:24 PM |
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can we please not quote the trolls ? i have them on my ignore list for a reason and this isnt helping !!!
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June 23, 2014, 09:58:43 PM |
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For those of you with capable minds (AlexGR et al) that insist on the continuous fruitless argument with the less than capable here I have a quote I'd like you to read.....
"Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it....Leave them alone"
Please......stop lending the power of your brains to the less than respectable task of convincing those that do not possess the power of reason. Your worth to the Darkcoin community does not contain any metric that deals with educating those that refuse to be educated.
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June 23, 2014, 10:07:03 PM |
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Just leave them in their lies...50% instamine in the hands of a few people is a "good distribution" now
Go easy on darkota folks. I know it looks like he's trying to hold a half decent debate, but he's actually trying to distract himself from his failure to dump at 9.1 while his coin is now trading at 6. I suppose if your coin just suffered a nearly 30% devaluation you'd need a punchbag to help you let off some steam and the DRK [AN] thread is it for darkota. Lets now examine the reasons behind that 30% devaluation: - the reason it got to 9 was nothing to do with 'technology' B.S. as the self styled champion of excellence would have you believe. In fact it was the fact that it got to the top of the voting bribery heap on Mintpal - asides from that, anyone who's ever used a monero wallet knows that it's for geeks, not for people. If Microsoft likes to beta test its stuff on the public then consider monero an 'alpha test' - whatever geeky features monero has an an 'anon' coin, they're valueless now and are being acknowledged as such by the market as being "too little too late" - not happy enough with being a clone, monero is a clone of a clone and already has its hands full with its own 'clone wars' with byte coin, never mind a genuine original like DRK Don't worry, darkota - I'm sure if you hold it'll come back up again - then again it might not because as I write this it's now sinking below 6. Just as well I offloaded mine at 9. I might get back in when it hits 3 again. There you go - even some DRK holders are better Monero traders than you. Come back if you need an XMR tip to keep you going  |
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June 23, 2014, 10:11:43 PM |
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can we please not quote the trolls ? i have them on my ignore list for a reason and this isnt helping !!!
^This. ^... but with chocolate coating. |
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June 23, 2014, 10:13:46 PM |
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For those of you with capable minds (AlexGR et al) that insist on the continuous fruitless argument with the less than capable here I have a quote I'd like you to read.....
"Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it....Leave them alone"
Please......stop lending the power of your brains to the less than respectable task of convincing those that do not possess the power of reason. Your worth to the Darkcoin community does not contain any metric that deals with educating those that refuse to be educated.
Very well said ! Thanks for the quote  Just hope potential new investors will not be deterred if the FUD is not continuously rebutted and exposed for what it is. And my apologies for quoting trolls. Will mind in the future not to make their podium bigger then they already make it. Thanks guys ! We're looking at a bright future here |
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June 23, 2014, 10:24:32 PM |
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Just leave them in their lies...50% instamine in the hands of a few people is a "good distribution" now
Go easy on darkota folks. I know it looks like he's trying to hold a half decent debate, but he's actually trying to distract himself from his failure to dump at 9.1 while his coin is now trading at 6. I suppose if your coin just suffered a nearly 30% devaluation you'd need a punchbag to help you let off some steam and the DRK [AN] thread is it for darkota. Lets now examine the reasons behind that 30% devaluation: - the reason it got to 9 was nothing to do with 'technology' B.S. as the self styled champion of excellence would have you believe. In fact it was the fact that it got to the top of the voting bribery heap on Mintpal - asides from that, anyone who's ever used a monero wallet knows that it's for geeks, not for people. If Microsoft likes to beta test its stuff on the public then consider monero an 'alpha test' - whatever geeky features monero has an an 'anon' coin, they're valueless now and are being acknowledged as such by the market as being "too little too late" - not happy enough with being a clone, monero is a clone of a clone and already has its hands full with its own 'clone wars' with byte coin, never mind a genuine original like DRK Don't worry, darkota - I'm sure if you hold it'll come back up again - then again it might not because as I write this it's now sinking below 6. Just as well I offloaded mine at 9. I might get back in when it hits 3 again. There you go - even some DRK holders are better Monero traders than you. Come back if you need an XMR tip to keep you going As a Monero investor, this really hurt me, but then they do say the truth hurts. What am I going to do with my 4 XMR coins now? What worthless crap I collect sometimes. |
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salmion
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June 23, 2014, 10:37:32 PM |
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Just leave them in their lies...50% instamine in the hands of a few people is a "good distribution" now
Go easy on darkota folks. I know it looks like he's trying to hold a half decent debate, but he's actually trying to distract himself from his failure to dump at 9.1 while his coin is now trading at 6. I suppose if your coin just suffered a nearly 30% devaluation you'd need a punchbag to help you let off some steam and the DRK [AN] thread is it for darkota. Lets now examine the reasons behind that 30% devaluation: - the reason it got to 9 was nothing to do with 'technology' B.S. as the self styled champion of excellence would have you believe. In fact it was the fact that it got to the top of the voting bribery heap on Mintpal - asides from that, anyone who's ever used a monero wallet knows that it's for geeks, not for people. If Microsoft likes to beta test its stuff on the public then consider monero an 'alpha test' - whatever geeky features monero has an an 'anon' coin, they're valueless now and are being acknowledged as such by the market as being "too little too late" - not happy enough with being a clone, monero is a clone of a clone and already has its hands full with its own 'clone wars' with byte coin, never mind a genuine original like DRK Don't worry, darkota - I'm sure if you hold it'll come back up again - then again it might not because as I write this it's now sinking below 6. Just as well I offloaded mine at 9. I might get back in when it hits 3 again. There you go - even some DRK holders are better Monero traders than you. Come back if you need an XMR tip to keep you going As a Monero investor, this really hurt me, but then they do say the truth hurts. What am I going to do with my 4 XMR coins now? What worthless crap I collect sometimes. Sell em for drk on darkbids.com |
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darkota
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June 23, 2014, 10:42:54 PM |
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Just leave them in their lies...50% instamine in the hands of a few people is a "good distribution" now
As a Monero investor, this really hurt me, but then they do say the truth hurts. What am I going to do with my 4 XMR coins now? What worthless crap I collect sometimes. Sell em for drk on darkbids.com
That's pretty funny...since you hold a coin, Darkcoin, that suffered 2 Failed RC3 tests(1 of which caused a 50% drop in 1 day, the other caused a 20% drop), a 50% instamine by the devs, and the thing it's riding on, anonymous sending through darksend/coinjoin isn't even anonymous! Funny.. |
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June 23, 2014, 10:45:23 PM |
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And it still has more value than Monero. ROFL  |
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darkota
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June 23, 2014, 10:47:32 PM |
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And it still has more value than Monero. ROFL Obviously, since Darkcoin came out 5 months ago...Monero came out 1month ago and a half, and since it's first day out, it already had working anonymity. Darkcoin has yet to even achieve that! Hell, Ducknotes is a better coin than Darkcoin...at least it wasn't 50% INSTAMINED. At least it has a Working Anonymity and doesn't rely on centralized masternodes... dude... get real... I also own Darkcoin myself, and I only started this whole spectacle, when a user here was ripping on other coins, That actually has full anonymity! It's like you guys ripping on NXT, when NXT has the most innovations of any coin out there, you guys can't talk about anything since Darkcoin has a 50% instamine and it's anonymity isnt even complete...so please stop ripping on other coins and lying etc. Thanks. |
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salmion
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June 23, 2014, 10:50:18 PM |
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more fud from fudpacker
Masternodes are DEcentralised that's the whole point... |
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