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[camosoul]

and guns are stupid, period

Lols, I'm baffled how a person can be smart enough to invest in DRK, yet be dumb enough that they can't understand the need for firearms...

You think your money revolution means a damn if the government has a monopoly on kill you for it? What good is your wallet.dat if you're dead?

[Delita Heiral]

parasitic rhetoric

the problem with your robin hood scenario is that what youre doing doesnt lessen any of the damage taxing does to the slave class youre so fond of fighting for, all youre doing is feeding off of the stream thats sucking the life out of everyone.

'reclaiming' your tax dollars by getting an ebt card and then selling that ebt card to some poor person doesnt benefit anyone except you, its what hipster college kids do, and just makes you another cog in the shit machine.

almost every self proclaimed 'anarchist' ive spoken with comes from a place of pure selfishness and bottomfeeder mentality while simultaneously proclaiming theyve figured out a path to the new world.

[thelonecrouton]

Why would you treat others the way you want to be treated? Wouldn't it be smarter to treat them the way they want to be treated? Not everyone wants to be treated the way you like to be treated so that's not much of a golden rule.
It's money that was stolen and should be reclaimed. You talk about being placid over taxes but I think the ones who are truly accepting are the ones just blindly paying. If you understand that taxes is theft and that money belongs to you and you have the right to reclaim it any way you can, then you should pursue it. Government money will just be used to drop bombs on brown people somewhere or to buy cheeseburgers for a family of degenerates so why not get as much as you can and put it towards something worthy?

If they kept the money they stole from you separated somewhere so that you could reclaim your money back, I would understand it.
But that's not the case.
Government makes you complicit by giving you the money of someone else.

Listen, if you are sometimes morally unsure in such situations, I found it helpful to replace the words taxation or stealing with the word RAPE. Then suddenly everything becomes absolutely clear.

So they stole from you, and now you think you can steal the money back.
So you were raped by government and now you think that you are somehow entitled to rape someone else.

That's also what you mean when you say "it would be smarter to treat them the way they want to be treated"... sounds very self-righteous to me.
I have the impression that your desire to be an anarchist doesn't come from moral principles but is more like an act of rage... And act of revenge.
You were hurt and now you want to hurt someone.

You never have the right to hurt someone. You only have the right to defend yourself.

I hope that one day, millions of people will stand up and hunt the tax collectors away, like they did before.
THAT would be morally acceptable. Not believing that one wrong justifies another wrong.

Uh, not quite. The rape has already happened, to you, by taking back what's yours you are preventing the government from using it to rape someone else.

[georgem]

parasitic rhetoric

the problem with your robin hood scenario is that what youre doing doesnt lessen any of the damage taxing does to the slave class youre so fond of fighting for, all youre doing is feeding off of the stream thats sucking the life out of everyone.

'reclaiming' your tax dollars by getting an ebt card and then selling that ebt card to some poor person doesnt benefit anyone except you, its what hipster college kids do, and just makes you another cog in the shit machine.

almost every self proclaimed 'anarchist' ive spoken with comes from a place of pure selfishness and bottomfeeder mentality while simultaneously proclaiming theyve figured out a path to the new world.

+1

Everyone can call himself anything.

[SoapMaker]

On another note. Cloakcoin is having real issues right now with their PoSA anonimity plan.
Their network is forking, it's true, check their thread & the devs don't really know what is going on.
This apparently may be a flaw affecting all POS coins. I mean proof of stake, not PIECE OF SHIT lol,
so please be careful with investing in copy cat, pump n dump coins.
Darkcoin is the secure leader with a great dev team & altough there are some other promising coins,
cloak seems ESPECIALLY RISKY, if you guys hold cloak, do consider selling right away.
I bought Darkcoins 3 weeks ago so I really know my stuff.
Just a friendly heads up to my favorite community: Darkcoin.

WOW great point storyteller, Ive also noticed some heavy clouds moving into cloak. Ive sold the little I had been playing with. The copycoins are just too risky these days. Thanks for the tips If I remember correctly you were actually pumping cloak just a short while ago... Glad to see you have a little more respect now. Peace !

[camosoul]

I think you're missing the point on the "welfare to drk" argument...

I have no desire to get free stuff from a government that I'd prefer did not exist.

But, since it's there... And it's giving away money... That I can use to buy DRK... And that money was stolen from me with threat of force and murder anyway... It's kinda stupid to NOT take advantage of it... Especially since socialism dies from internal burden... So... Uh... Why not increase the burden while making your wallet.dat fatter? It's already there... It's the best way to collapse socialism... And you get more drk... Where's the problem?

[slapper]

Code:

user@sv2:~/findingnemo> ./08.poolipominercom3601.sh 
............................
-----> 721942f29165652f36f0eaa14ed67a3422e... 721942f29165652f36f0eaa14ed67a3422e38032 Xm698KgR3755KfWXTEycZGX5GB36m7tGqt pool_unknown_19

https://www.ipominer.com/

BTCTalk Thread for the agents https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516047

[camosoul]

parasitic rhetoric

the problem with your robin hood scenario is that what youre doing doesnt lessen any of the damage taxing does to the slave class youre so fond of fighting for, all youre doing is feeding off of the stream thats sucking the life out of everyone.

'reclaiming' your tax dollars by getting an ebt card and then selling that ebt card to some poor person doesnt benefit anyone except you, its what hipster college kids do, and just makes you another cog in the shit machine.

almost every self proclaimed 'anarchist' ive spoken with comes from a place of pure selfishness and bottomfeeder mentality while simultaneously proclaiming theyve figured out a path to the new world.

+1

Everyone can call himself anything.

That's right, it doesn't benefit anyone but me.

The forest is dead because the trees are dead. You cannot contribute tot he forest. You can only contribute to the tree.

Be the tall tree.

Mulching yourself up and throwing yourself on the weeds isn't going to help anyone. An altruistic moron accomplishes far less humanitarianism than he imagines himself doing... But he does get to act like a smug asshole in front of people who are too dumb to see that he's just a distraction that supports the problem, not the solution.

the conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense that isn't... Because the actor is ignorant and honestly believes he is doing good when he is not.

[georgem]

Uh, not quite. The rape has already happened, by taking back what's yours you are preventing the government from using it to rape someone else.

I don't even think government really needs your taxdollars. It's more of a form of control for them, like some kind of blood-letting they force you to participate.

Let's not forget that government is always able to finance any project it desires... it simply borrows the money from the banks who create it out of thin air.

So really, "taking back what's yours".... I don't even understand what that means, it makes no sense....
...you are not hurting government in the slightest, you are simply strengthening it's orwelling bureaucracy machine by participating in their government programs.  

They want you to crave for free money, so that you don't work on real solutions like creating true wealth in the free market.
I have been selfemployed for 10 years now, and I wouldn't in my dreams desire to participate in any form of government program.

[r-ando]

@shojayxt

Crypto is the anarchist version of money. WTF are you doing using it? Or on this forum for that matter? Think about it. You are for government and regulation where as crypto is free market regulated by the market. No central authority issuing it. Decentralization is the complete opposite how government works today.. Every post that you make in this forum is a validation for crypto and decentralization.



On another note. Cloakcoin is an amazing investment right now. As an original DRK investor/miner I would advise anyone who is serious about making money to do their own research on Cloakcoin and get in while you can. They've decoupled from exchanges for in-wallet trading, developed their own anon protocol for the PoS scheme and have a decentralized market coming out that will be functioning in the wallet. They're setting up a decentralized Paypal/Ebay ecosystem but for the darknet. I would highly advise anyone who is a serious crypto investor to do their research and you'll come to the same conclusion as me. They've got 6 active devs. We could easily see cloak go to $20+ here soon.

I saw the potential of DRK early on and told people about it. Some invested and for some it fell on deaf ears. I can tell you right now that cloak will exceed the value of DRK. Take my advise or not.
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Hi storyteller,

I'm actually quite sure cloak will not and I also early on told people about DRK. And I am still telling people about DRK, it would be fantastic if you joined the team again. Take my advise or not..

[Coolstoryteller]

How is it tanking? Its went from a 55k floor to 76k. Is that what you call tanking? I call that an organic rise in value not to be associated with a pump or dump.

ok, fair enough, could just be a correction, but it was at 0.0009.

In wallet trading is no big deal anymore - every POS coin and his dog is getting it. NxT already has digital asset trading by the bucketload going on right now. Anon is no big deal anymore.

decentralized Paypal/Ebay ecosystem for the darknet is interesting, but these kinds of things are all value-added features like Blackcoin et al got. They're not something that is a "game changer", they are "pumper" features.

I can see it getting a bit of a pump out of it but what makes you think it's an order-of-magnitude thing ?

It was at 90k sat but there was a 2 week shakedown of weak-handed holders and now its going back up.

Real anon is a big deal as there hasn't been any real anontech implementation outside of Cryptonote. Kristov Atlas developed coinjoin suduko showing that the coinjoin method only provide a minor level of privacy that can be easily unmasked by a trained blockchain analyst. Most of the coins on the market right now only use coinjoin or an altered version of coinjion + masternode. Real trustless anon is something that hasn't been done outside of the cloak teams method. You might think of it as a FAD but its a real issue for people/merchants who don't want their wealth on display for the world.

Cloak's In-wallet trading (CloakTrade) is a 1st for crypto. I haven't seen another coin actually decouple from the major exchanges and allow you to trade from your wallet. The source isn't released for CloakTrade so there isn't a copy/paste clone of it yet. Exchanges have been the Achilles heel (Mt Gox) for any privacy focused trader or currency and they've solved that with CloakTrade.

Cloak has been out for 3 weeks and they've done all this with a power-house dev team. Which is why I am saying their pipeline is on the top of the altcoin market right now.

Decoupled In-wallet exchange trading(CloakTrade) + Trustless Anontech(CloakSend) + Trustless Decentralized marketplace(OneMarket) = Holy trinity of crypto. DRK went to almost $20 with the promise of anon Cloak is doing it for real here. That's the reason why I was saying this coin will be in the top rank very soon. Their plan for a decentralized Paypal/Ebay ecosystem is one of the most brilliant roadmaps I've seen thus far in crypto. We're talking about completely reinventing the concept of digital cash and ecommerce. CloakVPN,  CloakIM other value added services also coming down the pipeline.

Like I said earlier. I gave people the heads up on Dark(Xcoin) when it first came out and some people listened some people didn't. As an original member of this community I'm just extending the Cloakcoin opportunity to the members here. Do your own research on it and you'll come to the same conclusion I have.

[camosoul]

you are simply strengthening it's orwelling bureaucracy machine by participating in their government programs.

This makes no sense. We know that socialist programs are an unsustainable burden. How does it transform in to the opposite, a strength, when used for an unintended end?

Your argument fails on it's own merits.

This is the same double-backwards argument that Concealed Carriers have against Open Carriers. It fails on it's own merits, but the arrogance of being better than everyone else can be found at the root of the desire...

[SoapMaker]

and guns are stupid, period

Guns exist. The problem lies in the fact that the bad guys with guns often outnumber the good guys with guns.

All good guys and gals should have the ability to defend themselves and their loved ones, and their property.

Happy thoughts of puppy dogs and rainbows won't save you from being raped in an alleyway or extorted by armies of jackbooted thugs. But having a gun and knowing how to use it might. I am 100% in favour of gun ownership and good training. And I'm a Brit.

Oh and reading this thread today has made me proud to be a part of this community.

YAY, how cool is that, Many fantastic posts here today, this is what makes this community so cool in my eyes.
Darkcoin = innovators, lots of smart cookies hanging out here.

@ r-ando - where do I find more details of your charity/foundation? I would like to contribute some of my Masternode profits.

+ 1111.

[Coolstoryteller]

@shojayxt

Crypto is the anarchist version of money. WTF are you doing using it? Or on this forum for that matter? Think about it. You are for government and regulation where as crypto is free market regulated by the market. No central authority issuing it. Decentralization is the complete opposite how government works today.. Every post that you make in this forum is a validation for crypto and decentralization.



On another note. Cloakcoin is an amazing investment right now. As an original DRK investor/miner I would advise anyone who is serious about making money to do their own research on Cloakcoin and get in while you can. They've decoupled from exchanges for in-wallet trading, developed their own anon protocol for the PoS scheme and have a decentralized market coming out that will be functioning in the wallet. They're setting up a decentralized Paypal/Ebay ecosystem but for the darknet. I would highly advise anyone who is a serious crypto investor to do their research and you'll come to the same conclusion as me. They've got 6 active devs. We could easily see cloak go to $20+ here soon.

I saw the potential of DRK early on and told people about it. Some invested and for some it fell on deaf ears. I can tell you right now that cloak will exceed the value of DRK. Take my advise or not.

Hi storyteller,

I'm actually quite sure cloak will not and I also early on told people about DRK. And I am still telling people about DRK, it would be fantastic if you joined the team again. Take my advise or not..
[/quote]

Hey r-ando,

I will bookmark this page and will return to add a response when it's reached it's new floor. I'm still apart of the community as an investor. I've just moved my interests into a more promising anon ecosystem. Something moving past the actually anontech and into building the supporting value-added services that make a currency a currency xD

[chaeplin]

Code:

user@sv2:~/findingnemo> ./08.poolipominercom3601.sh 
............................
-----> 721942f29165652f36f0eaa14ed67a3422e... 721942f29165652f36f0eaa14ed67a3422e38032 Xm698KgR3755KfWXTEycZGX5GB36m7tGqt pool_unknown_19

https://www.ipominer.com/

BTCTalk Thread for the agents https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516047

Pool name is updated.

No new block after Masternode payment.

[shojayxt]

NEED DARKCOIN BUT HAVE NO MONEY?

There are MANY government assistance programs available that if you qualify can help you get some free darkcoins! One thing you can do is get the free cell phones they give to low income and then sell the entire phone with the minutes it comes with to someone for a set amount or monthly dues. Another thing is EBT cards. You can get food assistance and trade that for money that can be used to purchase darkcoins! Another good tactic is to apply for SSI. Fake an injury that makes it impossible for you to work, use the monthly checks on as much dark as you can get! Any other ideas welcome.

Doesn't work for me.

Am I not feeding the machine when I keep using it?
Government programs are like a protection racket: innocent people are forced at gunpoint to pay taxes, and you have to jump thru many hoops to get some of the money back or to qualify for a program.

I will never work for government, never accept or beg for handouts...

I'd rather work to create an independent system OUTSIDE of government, and make government obsolete over time.

Your plan actually makes the government machine stronger, don't you see?
You think you are hurting government when in reality you become complicit with its exploitation.

The problem with it is that most of the people who accept it become reliant. The money is tax money that was stolen from people anyway so I'm always in favor of getting some of that money back anyway you can with out forcing the creation of bigger government. If you don't NEED the assistance, aren't reliant and use it to take money out of circulation and into darkcoin, it will benefit dark.

Yeah all that stolen money being used to fund schools, build roads that YOU drive on, funding research for life saving medical treatments, build and operate airports so people can travel, pay for the fire fighter,  the list goes on and on.

You and your ideals are just crumbs in the whole scheme of things.  Those that think all government is bad are just ignorant.

Lulz. Dude you're an idiot.. leave this forum and go back to your centralized life and centralized currency.

I'll do whatever I want.  What are you?  The newest member of the Darkcoin compliance patrol or just another moron without a clue?

[Coolstoryteller]

NEED DARKCOIN BUT HAVE NO MONEY?

There are MANY government assistance programs available that if you qualify can help you get some free darkcoins! One thing you can do is get the free cell phones they give to low income and then sell the entire phone with the minutes it comes with to someone for a set amount or monthly dues. Another thing is EBT cards. You can get food assistance and trade that for money that can be used to purchase darkcoins! Another good tactic is to apply for SSI. Fake an injury that makes it impossible for you to work, use the monthly checks on as much dark as you can get! Any other ideas welcome.

Doesn't work for me.

Am I not feeding the machine when I keep using it?
Government programs are like a protection racket: innocent people are forced at gunpoint to pay taxes, and you have to jump thru many hoops to get some of the money back or to qualify for a program.

I will never work for government, never accept or beg for handouts...

I'd rather work to create an independent system OUTSIDE of government, and make government obsolete over time.

Your plan actually makes the government machine stronger, don't you see?
You think you are hurting government when in reality you become complicit with its exploitation.

The problem with it is that most of the people who accept it become reliant. The money is tax money that was stolen from people anyway so I'm always in favor of getting some of that money back anyway you can with out forcing the creation of bigger government. If you don't NEED the assistance, aren't reliant and use it to take money out of circulation and into darkcoin, it will benefit dark.

Yeah all that stolen money being used to fund schools, build roads that YOU drive on, funding research for life saving medical treatments, build and operate airports so people can travel, pay for the fire fighter,  the list goes on and on.

You and your ideals are just crumbs in the whole scheme of things.  Those that think all government is bad are just ignorant.

Lulz. Dude you're an idiot.. leave this forum and go back to your centralized life and centralized currency.

I'll do whatever I want.  What are you?  The newest member of the Darkcoin compliance patrol or just another moron without a clue?

Of course you'll do whatever you want. You're a pig.

[flound1129]

Multipool's EU node is updated with the stratum changes.  If there are no issues over the next couple days with block finding, we will roll out the changes to US-East and US-West.

We did test the changes on testnet, so we do not anticipate any issues.

[r-ando]

@shojayxt

Crypto is the anarchist version of money. WTF are you doing using it? Or on this forum for that matter? Think about it. You are for government and regulation where as crypto is free market regulated by the market. No central authority issuing it. Decentralization is the complete opposite how government works today.. Every post that you make in this forum is a validation for crypto and decentralization.



On another note. Cloakcoin is an amazing investment right now. As an original DRK investor/miner I would advise anyone who is serious about making money to do their own research on Cloakcoin and get in while you can. They've decoupled from exchanges for in-wallet trading, developed their own anon protocol for the PoS scheme and have a decentralized market coming out that will be functioning in the wallet. They're setting up a decentralized Paypal/Ebay ecosystem but for the darknet. I would highly advise anyone who is a serious crypto investor to do their research and you'll come to the same conclusion as me. They've got 6 active devs. We could easily see cloak go to $20+ here soon.

I saw the potential of DRK early on and told people about it. Some invested and for some it fell on deaf ears. I can tell you right now that cloak will exceed the value of DRK. Take my advise or not.

Hi storyteller,

I'm actually quite sure cloak will not and I also early on told people about DRK. And I am still telling people about DRK, it would be fantastic if you joined the team again. Take my advise or not..

Hey r-ando,

I will bookmark this page and will return to add a response when it's reached it's new floor. I'm still apart of the community as an investor. I've just moved my interests into a more promising anon ecosystem. Something moving past the actually anontech and into building the supporting value-added services that make a currency a currency xD
[/quote]

One of us will surely have quite a story to tell my friend

[linedash]

Multipool's EU node is updated with the stratum changes.  If there are no issues over the next couple days with block finding, we will roll out the changes to US-East and US-West.

We did test the changes on testnet, so we do not anticipate any issues.

Many thanks for updating and letting us know.