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July 12, 2014, 12:15:52 PM
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I thought about running some masternodes.  

You see, we are starting to rub off on you.

That's how some people started here. First they were trolls, then they were sceptical, then they were miners, then they were members of the community, then they were helpers.....and then they were holding a bag of eCash.

You'll wake up one morning with a Darkcoin addiction and a DRK tattoo on your girlfriends ass.
Hehe Smiley coins101 I get these points but my wife does not have a tattoo yet...meaby when I`ll buy a house thnx DRKcoins she will have Wink

I am willing to have the Darkcoin symbol tatoo'd on my arse for 1000DRK.  Kiss

I'll do it for 999DRK  Grin

Edit: I'll get mine tattoed for 999DRK, I won't tattoo yours... just in case it was not understood!

Damn I had just set up the webcam to televise the event!
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Miners are very important.  

I wouldn't be surprised if they don't try and take a larger share from miners in the future.

You're not learning the lesson that's been creeping up on the whole cryptocurrency economy over the last few months. (Maybe you missed out on the "Jackpot coin" experience - that would've tought you").

The amount of coin anybody has is dwindling into insignificance in relation to the importance of generating value. Mining is a known quantity - it is now taken for granted that coins *will be mined* as long as they have any value.

Giving miners a higher share of coins isn't going to help improve this coin's value - thats why I suggest you look at the Jackpotcoin experience. They all thought that getting more coin was "getting more money". But a jackpot only works when money is temporarily *removed* from the money supply, not added to it. The same law applies here which is why progressing the network's infrastructure is a far better use of that 20% than giving it to miners.

Many people feel the same way.  Now is the time for you guys to stand up.  I can't do it for you.  Boycott the 20%.

LoL !! Whether they are "important" or not, the mining population works to a profitability equation, not a political agenda. As long as that equation works out, the coin's safe and we can think about other things.
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July 12, 2014, 12:18:56 PM
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I'll do it for 999DRK  Grin

Edit: I'll get mine tattoed for 999DRK, I won't tattoo yours... just in case it was not understood!
Heck I'd do it for 100 DRK just for the sake of the coin.

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July 12, 2014, 12:29:15 PM
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Miners are very important.  

I wouldn't be surprised if they don't try and take a larger share from miners in the future.

You're not learning the lesson that's been creeping up on the whole cryptocurrency economy over the last few months. (Maybe you missed out on the "Jackpot coin" experience - that would've tought you").

The amount of coin anybody has is dwindling into insignificant in relation to the importance of generating value. Mining is a known quantity - it is now taken for granted that coins *will be mined* as long as they have any value.

Giving miners a higher share of coins isn't going to help improve this coin's value - thats why I suggest you look at the Jackpotcoin experience. They all thought that getting more coin was "getting more money". But a jackpot only works when money is temporarily *removed* from the money supply, not added to it. The same law applies here which is why progressing the network's infrastructure is a far better use of that 20% than giving it to miners.

Many people feel the same way.  Now is the time for you guys to stand up.  I can't do it for you.  Boycott the 20%.

LoL !! Whether they are "important" or not, the mining population works to a profitability equation, not a political agenda. As long as that equation works out, the coin's safe and we can think about other things.


+11111111111  ... and why I'm into DRK long term. Its not about the mining, though miners are essential, and should be taken care of. But its about intrinsic value, not price! See do you prefer to mine 100% of a coin that is worthless, or 80% of a coin that has actual value? (and there fore, price)

Now, again rubbing my belly button here 'cos I'm so fond of them... 1 MN will generate a heck of a lot more than mining in the future. If and ONLY

a) You buy 1k dark right now at these stupid low price (6k USD give or take)
b) Wait it out until RC4, vetting, opensource,
c) World wide adoption.

If say, DRK reached, just for fun, only 50 USD by year's end, 1 node will be worth errm... 50,000 USD. Miners will swarm in for the profits, network hashrate skyrocket, so the 80% mined will be diluted between all the miners, while 20% of that will go to whoever has a 1000k in PoS sitting nicely there, providing a service, not only earning you passive income, but evaluating with time, instead of devaluating immediately out of the box. Think in terms of quantum-finance, instead of newtonian-greedyness.

So yeah, at current prices, MN are absolutely not worth your time. Nor does Darkcoin have extreme intrinsic value.
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July 12, 2014, 12:32:38 PM
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For fuck's sake, stop quoting the trolls and take it to PM with your witty answers and explanations. I think a lot of the other coin threads have a great/superior way of ignoring the trolls completely except for Darkcoin thread participants. You just keep answering to known trolls and make the thread full of garbage because of your retorts/debunking attempts. Are you this gullible?

toknormal you have taken the spot of TS2 of this. Please keep this thread readable for the rest of us.

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July 12, 2014, 12:44:49 PM
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For fuck's sake, stop quoting the trolls and take it to PM with your witty answers and explanations. I think a lot of the other coin threads have a great/superior way of ignoring the trolls completely except for Darkcoin thread participants. You just keep answering to known trolls and make the thread full of garbage because of your retorts/debunking attempts. Are you this gullible?

toknormal you have taken the spot of TS2 of this. Please keep this thread readable for the rest of us.

slapper -

Suggesting that the miners should "take the 20%" isn't a troll remark. It's a legitimate question that all miners are going to ask and can easily be addressed. I quoted it because it was relevant to my reply and will reserve the right to do so in future. The only remarks that need to be ignored, dismissed or blanked are ones where people don't qualify their opinions and just post sh*t like "this coin's going down".
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July 12, 2014, 12:46:41 PM
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For fuck's sake, stop quoting the trolls and take it to PM with your witty answers and explanations. I think a lot of the other coin threads have a great/superior way of ignoring the trolls completely except for Darkcoin thread participants. You just keep answering to known trolls and make the thread full of garbage because of your retorts/debunking attempts. Are you this gullible?

toknormal you have taken the spot of TS2 of this. Please keep this thread readable for the rest of us.

slapper -

Suggesting that the miners should "take the 20%" isn't a troll remark. It's a legitimate question that all miners are going to ask and can easily be addressed. I quoted it because it was relevant to my reply and will reserve the right to do so in future. The only remarks that need to be ignored, dismissed or blanked are ones where people don't qualify their opinions and just post sh*t like "this coin's going down".


Most of us have the FuckTard on ignore... We'd like to keep it that way... You're getting deceived by the Long Troll... Similar to the Long Con...

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July 12, 2014, 01:05:39 PM
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For fuck's sake, stop quoting the trolls and take it to PM with your witty answers and explanations. I think a lot of the other coin threads have a great/superior way of ignoring the trolls completely except for Darkcoin thread participants. You just keep answering to known trolls and make the thread full of garbage because of your retorts/debunking attempts. Are you this gullible?

toknormal you have taken the spot of TS2 of this. Please keep this thread readable for the rest of us.

slapper -

Suggesting that the miners should "take the 20%" isn't a troll remark. It's a legitimate question that all miners are going to ask and can easily be addressed. I quoted it because it was relevant to my reply and will reserve the right to do so in future. The only remarks that need to be ignored, dismissed or blanked are ones where people don't qualify their opinions and just post sh*t like "this coin's going down".


You're right -- the question itself is not trolling, but the person who is asking the question is a known troll.  There will be plenty of opportunities to address that angle with a person who is legitimately inquiring about DRK rather than with someone who is not going to listen to your explanation and sole purpose is to crap in this thread.  
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July 12, 2014, 01:12:18 PM
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While looking at the DRK tattoo on my girlfriends ass, I had an ephiny.

With the Master Nodes taking care of the anonymous transactions and having capacity to do other things, why not do snapchat type messaging for android running off the same Master Node infrastructure.

That way you could do anonymous transactions, with discussions that include pictures, video etc.

Q. What's it look like?

A. Wait a minute, I'll send you a few pictures.

Q. How much?

A. 500DRK each one. Available next week. Click to buy now and I'll give you 10% discount.

Q. Great. Click; buy. Bye.
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July 12, 2014, 01:18:56 PM
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While looking at the DRK tattoo on my girlfriends ass, I had an ephiny.

With the Master Nodes taking care of the anonymous transactions and having capacity to do other things, why not do snapchat type messaging for android running off the same Master Node infrastructure.

That way you could do anonymous transactions, with discussions that include pictures, video etc.

Q. What's it look like?

A. Wait a minute, I'll send you a few pictures.

Q. How much?

A. 500DRK each one. Available next week. Click to buy now and I'll give you 10% discount.

Q. Great. Click; buy. Bye.

I was surprised when Evan said RC4 was the final anonymity solution for DRK with no mention of I2P. The mastenodes would still need I2P or something like it for distributed private comms.

edit: or the clients. But ideally encyption on all ends.

edit2: an in-wallet IRC type thing that included video streaming, using MN infrastructure, encrypted, with  fees based on MN bandwidth used...?

edit3: use a system similar to masternodeprivkey to sign blocks/hashes so that miners get private comms credits, thus incentivising miners and encouraging hash decentralisation?
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July 12, 2014, 01:29:20 PM
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While looking at the DRK tattoo on my girlfriends ass, I had an ephiny.

With the Master Nodes taking care of the anonymous transactions and having capacity to do other things, why not do snapchat type messaging for android running off the same Master Node infrastructure.

That way you could do anonymous transactions, with discussions that include pictures, video etc.

Q. What's it look like?

A. Wait a minute, I'll send you a few pictures.

Q. How much?

A. 500DRK each one. Available next week. Click to buy now and I'll give you 10% discount.

Q. Great. Click; buy. Bye.

I was surprised when Evan said RC4 was the final anonymity solution for DRK with no mention of I2P. The mastenodes would still need I2P or something like it for distributed private comms.

edit: or the clients. But ideally encyption on all ends.

edit2: an in-wallet IRC type thing that included video streaming, using MN infrastructure, encrypted, with  fees based on MN bandwidth used...?

edit3: use a system similar to masternodeprivkey to sign blocks/hashes so that miners get private comms credits?

He has, but way before. And I suspect a few other things too, now that he has the man-power to lead

To anyone who ever doubts my intention towards miners, please read this I wrote on April 27 2014

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/masternode-donation-to-p2pool.326/
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0.500 DRK each picture? I'll take one  Wink

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While looking at the DRK tattoo on my girlfriends ass, I had an ephiny.

With the Master Nodes taking care of the anonymous transactions and having capacity to do other things, why not do snapchat type messaging for android running off the same Master Node infrastructure.

That way you could do anonymous transactions, with discussions that include pictures, video etc.

Q. What's it look like?

A. Wait a minute, I'll send you a few pictures.

Q. How much?

A. 500DRK each one. Available next week. Click to buy now and I'll give you 10% discount.

Q. Great. Click; buy. Bye.

I was surprised when Evan said RC4 was the final anonymity solution for DRK with no mention of I2P. The mastenodes would still need I2P or something like it for distributed private comms.

edit: or the clients. But ideally encyption on all ends.

edit2: an in-wallet IRC type thing that included video streaming, using MN infrastructure, encrypted, with  fees based on MN bandwidth used...?

edit3: use a system similar to masternodeprivkey to sign blocks/hashes so that miners get private comms credits, thus incentivising miners and encouraging hash decentralisation?

It needs to be for android and IOS, that way Google or Facebook will offer $50bn.

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While looking at the DRK tattoo on my girlfriends ass



0.500 DRK each picture? I'll take one  Wink

If you want to take a pic of my girlfriends ass, it would be 10DRK. Wait, that makes me a pimp or porn kingpin. Jeez, the things I would do for a quick shot in the DRK.
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While looking at the DRK tattoo on my girlfriends ass, I had an ephiny.

With the Master Nodes taking care of the anonymous transactions and having capacity to do other things, why not do snapchat type messaging for android running off the same Master Node infrastructure.

That way you could do anonymous transactions, with discussions that include pictures, video etc.

Q. What's it look like?

A. Wait a minute, I'll send you a few pictures.

Q. How much?

A. 500DRK each one. Available next week. Click to buy now and I'll give you 10% discount.

Q. Great. Click; buy. Bye.

I was surprised when Evan said RC4 was the final anonymity solution for DRK with no mention of I2P. The mastenodes would still need I2P or something like it for distributed private comms.

edit: or the clients. But ideally encyption on all ends.

edit2: an in-wallet IRC type thing that included video streaming, using MN infrastructure, encrypted, with  fees based on MN bandwidth used...?

edit3: use a system similar to masternodeprivkey to sign blocks/hashes so that miners get private comms credits?

He has, but way before. And I suspect a few other things too, now that he has the man-power to lead

To anyone who ever doubts my intention towards miners, please read this I wrote on April 27 2014

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/masternode-donation-to-p2pool.326/

I've earmaked 10% of my MN profits for good causes, I like the idea of supporting p2pool in some way. In fact I would be perfectly happy for blocks submitted by p2pool to pay reduced MN service fees vs. regular pools.

Decentralisation is crucial to everything, it's the fundamental underpinning of cryptocurrencies.
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While looking at the DRK tattoo on my girlfriends ass, I had an ephiny.

With the Master Nodes taking care of the anonymous transactions and having capacity to do other things, why not do snapchat type messaging for android running off the same Master Node infrastructure.

That way you could do anonymous transactions, with discussions that include pictures, video etc.

Q. What's it look like?

A. Wait a minute, I'll send you a few pictures.

Q. How much?

A. 500DRK each one. Available next week. Click to buy now and I'll give you 10% discount.

Q. Great. Click; buy. Bye.

I was surprised when Evan said RC4 was the final anonymity solution for DRK with no mention of I2P. The mastenodes would still need I2P or something like it for distributed private comms.

edit: or the clients. But ideally encyption on all ends.

edit2: an in-wallet IRC type thing that included video streaming, using MN infrastructure, encrypted, with  fees based on MN bandwidth used...?

edit3: use a system similar to masternodeprivkey to sign blocks/hashes so that miners get private comms credits, thus incentivising miners and encouraging hash decentralisation?

It needs to be for android and IOS, that way Google or Facebook will offer $50bn.



Get the infrastructure set up and lease the API - anyone who wants to can buy MN bandwidth, profits distributed between MNs / The Institute / shojayxt, because he deserves it Wink
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I've earmaked 10% of my MN profits for good causes, I like the idea of supporting p2pool in some way. In fact I would be perfectly happy for blocks submitted by p2pool to pay reduced MN fees vs. regular pools.

Decentralisation is crucial to everything, it's the fundamental underpinning of cryptocurrencies.

What if.....MNs contributed their income to an LLC and the MN owners were given stock. We could then float the MNs onto the NASDAQ.

eCash and SnapChat type encrypted messaging, tied to a payment platform - all on the NASDAQ under the ticker DRK.

$50bn easy.
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I've earmaked 10% of my MN profits for good causes, I like the idea of supporting p2pool in some way. In fact I would be perfectly happy for blocks submitted by p2pool to pay reduced MN fees vs. regular pools.

Decentralisation is crucial to everything, it's the fundamental underpinning of cryptocurrencies.

What if.....MNs contributed their income to an LLC and the MN owners were given stock. We could then float the MNs onto the NASDAQ.

eCash and SnapChat type encrypted messaging, tied to a payment platform - all on the NASDAQ under the ticker DRK.

$50bn easy.

I like where this is going.  Grin

Subvert and undermine the financial system from within, using the enemies own existing greed-structures. Or we could just use NXT.
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I've earmaked 10% of my MN profits for good causes, I like the idea of supporting p2pool in some way. In fact I would be perfectly happy for blocks submitted by p2pool to pay reduced MN fees vs. regular pools.

Decentralisation is crucial to everything, it's the fundamental underpinning of cryptocurrencies.

What if.....MNs contributed their income to an LLC and the MN owners were given stock. We could then float the MNs onto the NASDAQ.

eCash and SnapChat type encrypted messaging, tied to a payment platform - all on the NASDAQ under the ticker DRK.

$50bn easy.

I like where this is going.  Grin

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Well, I know how to take a company onto the NASDAQ, I even have much of the paperwork.

All we need is a way to decouple MNs from the network, without decoupling the MNs from the network.

If there was a way for MNs to pass through their earnings to an LLC, without being put at risk of removing the decentralisation aspect, then we could start the process of creating a public offering and giving MN owners stock.

That doesn't need anyone or anything other than MN owners saying they would be happy to sign up to an LLC.
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