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October 01, 2014, 01:49:01 PM
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Hey guys,

i created a thread in darkcointalk marketplace regarding an idea for a project i would like to run.

Just let me know if you would be interested in this or not (and why)

If this gets enough positive feedback i'll go ahead and give more detail on what exactly it is i had in mind (cost wise etc)

please vote on :

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/real-estate-rent-service-monthly-payout.2560/
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October 01, 2014, 01:49:44 PM
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OK, chaps.

The first DRK franchiseable venture is about to open.

We are starting with something we all need, and something all other coins will pay us for, in DRK. Wait and see.

Anyone will be able to participate in this first DRK franchise venture. There will be no heirachy.

You will be required to have a minimum 1000 DRKs that we can vet to make sure you are not trying to sybil attack the venture from one of those coins who shall not be named.  If you run a Master Node, you're good to go.

This first venture will be easy to operate, but will have a great deal of impact.

Before you decide to participate, you will be required to do stuff, like contribute. If you just want to participate as an observer / investor, probably not 100% for you. But we might come up with a model that can work for you.

I'm not looking for any investment or to raise capital. Any future funding capital will come from earnings that will be reinvested, with some profit distributions. SEC: I'm not selling any shares.

PM so I know you want to know more and possibly participate.
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October 01, 2014, 01:51:32 PM
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Looks like the ship is sinking for dark coin.

Well, obviously. That's the nature of a submarine, d'uh.


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October 01, 2014, 01:56:59 PM
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The chargable's seem to be "0.020 per On Demand Linux t1.micro Instance Hour" which was all on the "free tier" ?

I just feel like shutting down the account because I've got no clue how to tell if the services I'm consuming attract any charge or not.

Can anyone throw any light on this ?

Right, so the obvious course of action isn't doing anything like contacting AWS customer/billing support. That would be insane. The logical thing to do is come to the DRK thread and talk about it, because we can log in to our employee accounts at Amazon and check out your usage to see if there has been a mistake on Amazon's end.

Ah - looks it's the "lazy b*strd meets conceited c*nt" post.

ok, thanks for the slap down - point taken - but it happens that this thread contains a substantial amount of discussion about AWS due to the fact that so many masternodes are hosted on it and for that reason I didn't consider it an off-topic post. Other user's experiences are at least as useful as what an employed support person tells you.

I'll try the front door.



Bandwidth charges - Amazon isn't cheap.

So how much bandwidth does a masternode need anyway? How high is the traffic in GByte/month that goes thru a masternode on average and is ONLY darkcoin related?
I thought it can't be that high, ... so maybe the server was (ab)used for something else besides darkcoin?

I have two root servers, where I pay a fix amount of money every month, and where I get a constant access to a 100 MBit line. I use those servers for all my projects etc.. and plan on installing two masternodes on those servers when the time has come.
Is this advisable? Or should I have completely dedicated servers for the masternodes ONLY (nothing else running on the machines). I really assume that the traffic that goes thru masternodes is completely negligible compared to other things, and should therefor allow for other services to run on those servers, why not? Right?

Back in the RC3 days I had my masternodes running on AWS.
They charged me once for bandwidth utilization and I switched do Digital Ocean (larger limit).

RC4 traffic was around 100Kb/s download and 200kb/s upload almost constant. (~750MB/month total)

RC5 traffic have been around 50Kb/s download and 100kb/s upload almost half of RC4. (~375MB/month total)

if I'm not mistaken AWS limit is 1GB/month so it was pretty close on RC4 and before...

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October 01, 2014, 02:00:26 PM
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Back in the RC3 days I had my masternodes running on AWS.
They charged me once for bandwidth utilization and I switched do Digital Ocean (larger limit).

RC4 traffic was around 100Kb/s download and 200kb/s upload almost constant. (~750MB/month total)

RC5 traffic have been around 50Kb/s download and 100kb/s upload almost half of RC4. (~375MB/month total)

if I'm not mistaken AWS limit is 1GB/month so it was pretty close on RC4 and before...


I see, thanks for the calculation. I assume the ~750MB/month (~375MB/month) is just a typo and you meant ~750GB/month (~375GB/month), right?
Or the 100kb/s is wrong, or that it is constant, but something doesn't add up.

100kb/s constant means 8.6 GB/day, means 250 GB/month, right?
So 100kb/s down plus 200kb/s up would get me to the 750GB/month, that's why I assume that's what you meant?

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October 01, 2014, 02:05:46 PM
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Made a open source video  Cheesy

It features Darkcoin and this little guy



Check it out, share and tweet  Grin
https://vid.me/MWL

Made me laugh, love it! 

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October 01, 2014, 02:06:22 PM
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You will be required to have a minimum 1000 DRKs that we can vet to make sure you are not trying to sybil attack the venture from one of those coins who shall not be named.g any shares.

PM so I know you want to know more and possibly participate.

Looks like it's also better not to discuss it in detail in bitcointalk PM at all. This forum does not encrypt private messages.
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October 01, 2014, 02:11:32 PM
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The chargable's seem to be "0.020 per On Demand Linux t1.micro Instance Hour" which was all on the "free tier" ?

I just feel like shutting down the account because I've got no clue how to tell if the services I'm consuming attract any charge or not.

Can anyone throw any light on this ?

Right, so the obvious course of action isn't doing anything like contacting AWS customer/billing support. That would be insane. The logical thing to do is come to the DRK thread and talk about it, because we can log in to our employee accounts at Amazon and check out your usage to see if there has been a mistake on Amazon's end.

Ah - looks it's the "lazy b*strd meets conceited c*nt" post.

ok, thanks for the slap down - point taken - but it happens that this thread contains a substantial amount of discussion about AWS due to the fact that so many masternodes are hosted on it and for that reason I didn't consider it an off-topic post. Other user's experiences are at least as useful as what an employed support person tells you.

I'll try the front door.

PM El Presidente. I bet he would know.

Report back. Be interested to know what the deal was.

It sounds to me like something got messed up in the setup?  I'd check with Amazon, and I'd complain that their system is extremely confusing, and get them to reverse those charges!!

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October 01, 2014, 02:11:49 PM
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Back in the RC3 days I had my masternodes running on AWS.
They charged me once for bandwidth utilization and I switched do Digital Ocean (larger limit).

RC4 traffic was around 100Kb/s download and 200kb/s upload almost constant. (~750MB/month total)

RC5 traffic have been around 50Kb/s download and 100kb/s upload almost half of RC4. (~375MB/month total)

if I'm not mistaken AWS limit is 1GB/month so it was pretty close on RC4 and before...


I see, thanks for the calculation. I assume the ~750MB/month (~375MB/month) is just a typo and you meant ~750GB/month (~375GB/month), right?
Or the 100kb/s is wrong, or that it is constant, but something doesn't add up.

100kb/s constant means 8.6 GB/day, means 250 GB/month, right?

I knew I should've stayed in school...  Grin

Well I assumed the data was more constant but it is not.
So I can only give you RC5 masternodes running stats for 9 days:

MN1 - upload 8.8GB / download 6.1GB
MN2 - upload 7.2GB / download 7.4GB

Sorry for the previous calculations  Wink

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October 01, 2014, 02:13:51 PM
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Looks like the ship is sinking for dark coin.

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October 01, 2014, 02:14:11 PM
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Sorry for the previous calculations  Wink
No problem. Thanks for sharing the information.

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October 01, 2014, 02:14:21 PM
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Back in the RC3 days I had my masternodes running on AWS.
They charged me once for bandwidth utilization and I switched do Digital Ocean (larger limit).

RC4 traffic was around 100Kb/s download and 200kb/s upload almost constant. (~750MB/month total)

RC5 traffic have been around 50Kb/s download and 100kb/s upload almost half of RC4. (~375MB/month total)

if I'm not mistaken AWS limit is 1GB/month so it was pretty close on RC4 and before...


I see, thanks for the calculation. I assume the ~750MB/month (~375MB/month) is just a typo and you meant ~750GB/month (~375GB/month), right?
Or the 100kb/s is wrong, or that it is constant, but something doesn't add up.

100kb/s constant means 8.6 GB/day, means 250 GB/month, right?
So 100kb/s down plus 200kb/s up would get me to the 750GB/month, that's why I assume that's what you meant?

Each MN I have on Amazon uses about 5-10GB/month bandwidth, from what I can make out, according to Amazon's figures.

About running a MN on a machine doing other stuff, just be aware that having other services running increases your vulnerability surface. If you're happy with that, and have the CPU/RAM/IO to spare then no reason why not.
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October 01, 2014, 02:16:16 PM
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looks like no alt coin will ever come back. Crypto currency is dead. Precious metal is dead, and the inflatinary stockmarket and $ market is the ultimate asset. No place for any currency outside the $. NA and Europe is bankrupt and banksters are still playing their games and scam out the last penny out of middle class people. Work as long as you are able to work for big companies for nearly nothing and maximize their profits until you are broken or catched by cancer.

Yeah, everything is dead. We're all dead, in a long run. Despite being dead myself, I just bought some more Darkcoins, for the fuck's sake, if nothing else.

This is the most exciting freedom & privacy related technological development in ages. Enjoy being a part of it and stop whining.
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October 01, 2014, 02:19:26 PM
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Yeah, everything is dead. We're all dead, in a long run. Despite being dead myself, I just bought some more Darkcoins, for the fuck's sake, if nothing else.

This is the most exciting freedom & privacy related technological development in ages. Enjoy being a part of it and stop whining.

Let me have a wild guess - a Polish guy living in Dublin? :-)
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October 01, 2014, 02:27:27 PM
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About running a MN on a machine doing other stuff, just be aware that having other services running increases your vulnerability surface. If you're happy with that, and have the CPU/RAM/IO to spare then no reason why not.

I will wait for masternode IPs to be obfuscated/invisible before I give it a try... Wink

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October 01, 2014, 02:30:47 PM
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Inside Bitcoins Conference and Expo Headed to Las Vegas, October 5-7 ...>>

http://cointelegraph.com/news/11264...ence-and-expo-headed-to-las-vegas-october-5-7

i think it would be great if we had somebody from DRK Dev Team / Community / Supporters ... being in Vegas for this. a ton if people of all industries will be around and sure it would be great to have somebody from Darkcoin go and represent !!

anybody Vegas based ? US based and close enough ?
a weekend in Vegas ? Bitcoin, podiums , conference , great speeches ,...
crypto geeks  , gambling and strip bars !!!

how about it ?
"Vegas Baby"
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Inside Bitcoins Conference and Expo Headed to Las Vegas, October 5-7 ...>>

http://cointelegraph.com/news/11264...ence-and-expo-headed-to-las-vegas-october-5-7

i think it would be great if we had somebody from DRK Dev Team / Community / Supporters ... being in Vegas for this. a ton if people of all industries will be around and sure it would be great to have somebody from Darkcoin go and represent !!

anybody Vegas based ? US based and close enough ?
a weekend in Vegas ? Bitcoin, podiums , conference , great speeches ,...
crypto geeks  , gambling and strip bars !!!

how about it ?
"Vegas Baby"
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Isn't Evan in Arizona?

Would seem like a good outing for The Foundation gang.
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Inside Bitcoins Conference and Expo Headed to Las Vegas, October 5-7 ...>>

http://cointelegraph.com/news/11264...ence-and-expo-headed-to-las-vegas-october-5-7

i think it would be great if we had somebody from DRK Dev Team / Community / Supporters ... being in Vegas for this. a ton if people of all industries will be around and sure it would be great to have somebody from Darkcoin go and represent !!

anybody Vegas based ? US based and close enough ?
a weekend in Vegas ? Bitcoin, podiums , conference , great speeches ,...
crypto geeks  , gambling and strip bars !!!

how about it ?
"Vegas Baby"
 Grin Cool Grin

Isn't Evan in Arizona?

Would seem like a good outing for The Foundation gang.

right
i thought the same
little road trip for the boys
get some fresh air after all that coding
wind in their hair
sun in their faces
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and it's

VEGAS Baby ! ....>

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October 01, 2014, 02:40:18 PM
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Looks like the ship is sinking for dark coin.

Well, obviously. That's the nature of a submarine, d'uh.



Man, you're just too quick!  Good'un!

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October 01, 2014, 02:43:42 PM
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The chargable's seem to be "0.020 per On Demand Linux t1.micro Instance Hour" which was all on the "free tier" ?

I just feel like shutting down the account because I've got no clue how to tell if the services I'm consuming attract any charge or not.

Can anyone throw any light on this ?

Right, so the obvious course of action isn't doing anything like contacting AWS customer/billing support. That would be insane. The logical thing to do is come to the DRK thread and talk about it, because we can log in to our employee accounts at Amazon and check out your usage to see if there has been a mistake on Amazon's end.

Ah - looks it's the "lazy b*strd meets conceited c*nt" post.

ok, thanks for the slap down - point taken - but it happens that this thread contains a substantial amount of discussion about AWS due to the fact that so many masternodes are hosted on it and for that reason I didn't consider it an off-topic post. Other user's experiences are at least as useful as what an employed support person tells you.

I'll try the front door.


You are not alone. Same thing is happening to me on my supposedly free EC2 instance. It was not free for August or September. I just now noticed due to your posting about it here. So thanks for the heads up!

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