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[McHammer]

the whale makes the volume right ?!  
i want the truth
wake me up
he probably makes every major price move
i feel so helpless
DRK - NEW WHALE ORDER

[BlockaFett]

[coins101]

Lets see. Many have shown an interest in my franchise venture. I have sent out PMs. I'm not naive enough to think everyone will come running.

Nor do I need the venture to work, or the extra hassle if I'm honest.

If it does nothing else, I hope it helps people understand something that I have learnt the hard way.

Nothing just happens. Effort is needed.

Google was a failed project that went through 3-4 years in its early life creating and developing but it never actually figured out a way to make money. That was someone else who simply looked at the yellow pages in his office after Google went to see him for help.

His answer for earning revenue was simple, but it took a lifetime of effort and hard work being in business for him to see what they couldn't see but was right in front of them all the time. It was so simple Google tried not to pay him anything. They lost and had to give him some of their company.

Nothing comes easy. But the answers are there. How can cash over the internet not be something that the world wants, despite people searching for an answer to this problem for decades?

[oblox]

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This is great and all, but have you measured  the power usage? I would need a 300% increase in speed, with no increase in power just to break even mining dark with my farm and I'm only paying$ 0.11/kwh. There is nothing to mine at a profit right now, I'm running a slight loss (5%) at the moment.

Last time I used a kill-a-watt with this machine, it melted and I had to get a new one, so I'm not exactly itching to do it again. What I do know is that temps on 7950 and 280X have only gone up 2C.

Temps aren't a good gauge of increase in wattage. Sure, higher wattage will generate higher temps but there isn't a good factor method to say oh, I went up 2 degrees, that's 50 watts. I'd be interested to see where your wattage usage is at given your optimizations, although I do have to agree, it is getting a bit old seeing posts in regards to your optimizations. Good on ya for doing it but I think at this point, we all get it.

Wait - 90% of my posts about this shit have been replies to questions - now you're asking me a question while (politely, and I thank you for it) telling me you'd kind of like me to shut up now.

I'm not trying to be an ass, honest, but... do I do the test and report later... or shut up?

So message me and keep it out of the thread. No need to pollute the thread anymore. If you want to discuss your miner with people in the forums, start a new thread that encompasses X11 miner optimizations and have the discussions there.

[TheUsualStuff]

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This is great and all, but have you measured  the power usage? I would need a 300% increase in speed, with no increase in power just to break even mining dark with my farm and I'm only paying$ 0.11/kwh. There is nothing to mine at a profit right now, I'm running a slight loss (5%) at the moment.

Last time I used a kill-a-watt with this machine, it melted and I had to get a new one, so I'm not exactly itching to do it again. What I do know is that temps on 7950 and 280X have only gone up 2C.

Hi Wolf!

I think I tried making the same point as you are right now back in March/April. Glad to see someone with actual skills is finally trying to make this point too, because all I could go on about the crippled miner was that the algo isn't memory bound at all and was only using ~51% of my GPU's power. I remember thinking that a 2x speed increase would be the absolute minimum one could find while optimizing the CPU code that was in the GPU miner.

What's strange to me is that, with your proven abilities, people are either flat out rejecting you or are just insulting you. That's weird to me. Nobody wants to hear bad things, but to resort to personal attacks and continuously detract from the argument almost makes me think that you're arguing with some of the farmers with optimized code themselves. Rational people would probably want to launch an investigation, or maybe throw a bounty together, especially when a legit developer comes by and says what you've said. I'm sure you have better things to do than come to a thread and lie to everyone, so it's weird that people are attacking you is all.

[toknormal]

Lets see. Many have shown an interest in my franchise venture. I have sent out PMs. I'm not naive enough to think everyone will come running.

Nor do I need the venture to work, or the extra hassle if I'm honest.

If it does nothing else, I hope it helps people understand something that I have learnt the hard way.

+1 !!

The subtext was that we WILL make it across. NxT did and I was there - I remember being right in this valley thinking "will we ever see 8 again ? - and we did.

While other projects are blowing up spectacularly (CLOAK ?, VRC were supposed to dispense with DRK) this ship is sailing an incredibly steady course. The flags are planted and bolted down: 2-tier approach, legacy support, pre-emptive anonymisation.

That is the USP  and it's one which is unambiguous and attractive to clients and vendors alike.

[organizer]

There is no fpga listed there. So far an x11 fpga is only a rumor.

Absolute FUD with zero proof. Ridiculous one would be out so soon.

I highly doubt its usage as well - not AT ALL, it's possible, although I think unlikely, that some really quick devs with their heads in crypto have done it, but I fear were its usage widespread due to multiple entities having done it independently, it'd be VERY obvious.

1. It's a modifier product to his LTC/Scrypt product (shares in a mining farm).
2. Holy shit, people cry FUD at the drop of the hat. First, i've been posting -here- since March and you can see im a DRK supporter, jesus, relax.
3. Tied into point #1. The guy who runs the site was a FGPA developer and sold physical products up until this spring. It's about the worst designed site out there, but i've been using it since August and can tell you he does deliver w/ the modifiers (which let you choose either VTC or DRK mining).

[camosoul]

PIC

Who the f logs in an exchange and decides that today is a good day to place a buy order for 0.20479 DRK.

A manipubot.

[illodin]

1) 20% MN payment is obviously too little to attract 2000 MNs and equally obviously - 25% won't make a big difference. How about we start with 50% and adjust upward or downward based on the result? The hashrate will drop by 20-70% which is NOT an issue as there are coins with 1% of DRK hashrate that still perform well in terms of securing the coin.

Probably true, I don't think anyone who already isn't running a masternode will actually decide to run one just because the reward goes from 20 to 25. Setting it at 50% actually has a slight chance that someone will. If that would cause the price to rise 60% (from the current 0.0063 to 0.01) the miners would mine at the same profitability still.

2) MN IP obfuscation - wouldn't it be easy to identify MN IP addresses by running NMAP against Microsoft/Amazon/VULTR VPS'es checking which ones are running services at port 9999?

Port should be configurable, problem solved?

[lyda]

Hello everyone, I own darkcoinnews.com now, I temporarily have it for sale, unless anyone would like to cooperate on making it a terrific darkcoin news sites for upcoming features and development. If so, then please message me here or on darkcointalk, thanks!
Thanks,

lyda

.25 btc for a domain name. I should get in the domain squatting business.

I think he will only take DRK  

Lol, check out his website, ironically it only mentions BTC as a payment method.

http://darkcoinnews.com

Domain is nothing worth then the price payed for registration of the domain,there is no developed site on the domain so value is nothing more then registration price.

Hey now, come on, it takes a lot of time and dedication to register a domain name. Plus it looks like this individual splurged and bought the whosguard privacy protection as well. That's like ten extra bucks! I'll give you three darkcoin's and a potato for it.

*Not a fan of domain squatters.

I bought the domain from someone else. If you bothered to or could even read properly, you would see this, I temporarily have it for sale, unless anyone would like to cooperate on making it a terrific darkcoin news sites for upcoming features and development.

Ever hear of the word temporary before?

[camosoul]

Europol has issued a new report on Internet crime in which it outlined a number of scenarios involving bitcoin.

Called the Internet Organised Crime Threat Assessment (iOCTA), the report examines the use of bitcoin on various dark web sites, by organised crime and individual actors, and calls digital currencies an ‘enabler’ for cryber-criminals and a challenge for law enforcement.

However, it makes a clear distinction between bitcoin and digital currencies designed with true anonymity in mind, like darkcoin, warning:

“We feel it should concern everyone that the latest cyber currencies are intended to be truly anonymous and to facilitate anonymous transactions. We face a situation where law enforcement may be completely unable to trace even very large criminal transactions.”

They have no right to make these activities "illegal" in the first place. Arbitrarily labelling something as "a crime" does not justify the persecution of it or it's owners/participants. It's just an excuse to attack someone a mob of degenerates doesn't like. Only deeply disturbed, very evil people make laws and only those who are even worse would enforce them. Even in the ultimate scam of all, democracy, it's is a lie to say that just because a mob of 51% wants to oppress, enslave, cage, and murder the remaining 49%, that is is acceptable to then do so. Those who view the act of committing these atrocities as a duty are truly evil. Those who see it for what it is must resist. DRK gives us that ability to resist, and the oppressors hate that.

The UK has the heaviest gun control of any country on Earth, and, by far, the highest violent crime rates to go along with it. But who cares. The point is that the slaves are easy to kill, doesn't matter who is doing the killing... If the government can get criminals to do the killing for them, then the government can pretend to be innocent along with the scum that voted for it. Same pattern, different subject matter... They do the same old thing, always.

[Ignition75]

Correct - double digit percentages aren't massive, and I don't remember saying it was. I said that a couple days worth of work meant a good 40% or more increase. While that is not massive, or near massive, it doesn't need to be - I'm mentioning it simply to prove the point.

For the purposes of this discussion, let "stock" refer to the kernels shipping with SGMiner 5 as of today. To be completely clear so there's no nitpicking, I mean commit e481d67e59ad60edc69c026617219f8fae9d6c6e published on the 19th. Now, you say massive is 300%+. Cool, let's go with that. Increases of 50% or below over stock are child's play. Assuming the dev is at least somewhat competent in GPU development, and has more than a passing familiarity with the algorithms in use, the amount of time required for that shit is measured in hours. And it's probably a low number. My estimate of the work required for a 200% to 250% increase, which I have begun and made some progress on, is maybe 1.5 weeks to 2 weeks of almost nonstop work for me - assuming I run into a lot of bugs and shit, which has been and will almost no doubt continue to be the case, lol. (In case you are wondering, no, I am not doing it nonstop - I've other shit to do.) Why so long? The code to SGMiner 5 is based on CGMiner, and while the SGMiner people aren't bad at all, the code they are working with was extremely messy and disorganized, repetitive and overcomplicated, and sadly, much of it remains as it was in CGMiner. Really, the best thing you could say about the code that remains from CG is that it works. Because of this, editing SGMiner 5 - that being required for many of the extremely effective, yet most time consuming optimizations - is not easy and is about as enjoyable as pulling out your own molars with a household pliers. In addition, for those optimizations, not only do you have to simply dump the current, as pretty much all of it will be unusable, you have to rewrite it quite carefully. For most of them, optimal or close to optimal implementations are going to require changing the very structure of the implementation, which is why the current code needs to be replaced and not edited: the current code used for every single hashing algorithm in X11 is copypasted code that was meant to be run on CPUs. GPUs are VERY different - while you can do some shit like that and get it to run (as evidenced by the current code), it won't be anywhere near optimal. Not only will you leave parts of the GPU idle, you'll be bottlenecking yourself in other places - it's just a horrid way to do it; it's not proper porting, and it's not even coding. Anyway, for further optimizations above 250%, I'm not comfortable with estimating the time required. While I strongly believe it's possible, to get an estimate that's more than a number that's mostly pulled out of my ass, I'd need to finish the current few rewrites I have in progress and then, before moving on (mainly because the details would still be fresh in my mind), fine-tune those new implementations. Then I'd re-benchmark, see where the performance fell in terms of percentage, and only then would I be able to say with any confidence some shit like, "Okay, it'd take so long to get 400% to 450%+."

Thing is, I just decided around... two weeks ago or something, "Hey, I feel like fucking around with X11 on AMD." Seeing as I didn't know what GPU code looked like 4 months ago, there obviously are loads of people out there who could hand me my ass when it comes to GPU optimizations, on AMD or otherwise, and it stands to reason that someone has done this shit already.

Sounds to me like you're looking for a new gig since the 970/980 wasn't all that it's cracked up to be...

Want me to organise you a crowdfunded project where you pimp out x11 for SGMiner and get paid for your services?

[Ignition75]

You kept all that anger inside you for the last weeks? LOL

I'm done here and will retire this screen name.

Looks like you already have quite a many new ones. LOL

This is my last post.  shojayxt will self destruct in 30 seconds.

First troll that I made quit by busting his sock puppet trolling. Didn't know you took it so hard. LOL


That's three LOL's for you.

And one for the road, go choke on it and die, loser: LOL

I don't normally respond to Shojayxt's posts...But when I do, I give illodin a +1...

[patrolman]

The sell wall on Mintpal has disappeared 

[coins101]

https://blog.openbazaar.org/launching-openbazaar-beta-2-0/

Was someone working on DRK integration?

[toknormal]

The sell wall on Mintpal has disappeared 

No it hasn't.

[Honest Tim]

I don't normally respond to Shojayxt's posts...But when I do, I give illodin a +1...

Yes very much funny. all that joking make fun fun. he told him which station to leave train. not welcome now.

[patrolman]

The sell wall on Mintpal has disappeared 

No it hasn't.

I can't see it

https://www.mintpal.com/market/DRK/BTC

[jams951]

Because Mintpal is down for 24 hours, can't access funds or anything.

[toknormal]

There's not been a single trade on MIntpal for an hour and a half now.

So lets read this while we're waiting.

http://www.silverdoctors.com/5-u-s-banks-each-have-more-than-40-trillion-dollars-in-exposure-to-derivatives/

Also - lets checkout the London index and in particular the 1-month MACD which is now firmly crossed since I last posted. That boy is heading major-momentum in only one direction and it aint the moon.

No wonder they had to rig the Scottish ballots by swapping the boxes out between the polling stations and the counting centres - George Osbaz & Mark Carnage need all the oil they can get to keep that balance of payments from tipping into oblivion now that the UK doesn't make anything but over-levered guvpaper anymore  

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?show=&insttype=Index&symb=UK%3AUKX&time=12&startdate=1%2F4%2F1999&enddate=9%2F1%2F2014&freq=3&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comptemptext=&comp=none&ma=1&maval=9&uf=0&lf=4&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=2&style=320&size=3&x=35&y=9&timeFrameToggle=false&compareToToggle=false&indicatorsToggle=false&chartStyleToggle=false&state=11