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[illodin]

Was someone working on DRK integration?

It's been talked about here: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/open-bazaar-integration.2045/

and it's on the wanted list here: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/call-for-devs-software-adoption.2195/

Looks like not much is happening. Perhaps we need a bounty to get things rolling, dunno how mature OB beta code is at this point though. And apparently it would be easy to search&replace BTC with DRK in the code, but then we'd miss out the original network, so it would be better to add support for another coin which is much more complicated. And, there's perhaps something else that has to be done wrt multi-sigs, but I didn't quite understand what it was.

[toknormal]

Because Mintpal is down for 24 hours, can't access funds or anything.

Didn't know that - they seem to be implementing their v2.

Switch to spectating NEOS on Bittrex for a bit of action - somebody just bought 2358 NEOS (which corresponds to about 11,000 DRK by coin supply) for a snip 0.496 BTC. Not bad if you can get the liquidity.

[patrolman]

There's not been a single trade on MIntpal for an hour and a half now.

"Planned Maintenance
Wednesday 1st October - 9:00PM UTC
The migration to V2 has begun, and the site will be unavailable for up to 24 hours as a result"

So lets read this while we're waiting.

http://www.silverdoctors.com/5-u-s-banks-each-have-more-than-40-trillion-dollars-in-exposure-to-derivatives/

"After Lehman’s collapse, no one could understand any particular bank’s risks from derivative trading and so no bank wanted to lend to or trade with any other bank. Because all the big banks’ had been involved to an unknown degree in risky derivative trading, no one could tell whether any particular financial institution might suddenly implode."

A global derivatives catastrophe looks like it could be good news for cryptocurrencies.

[thelonecrouton]

Was someone working on DRK integration?

It's been talked about here: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/open-bazaar-integration.2045/

and it's on the wanted list here: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/call-for-devs-software-adoption.2195/

Looks like not much is happening. Perhaps we need a bounty to get things rolling, dunno how mature OB beta code is at this point though. And apparently it would be easy to search&replace BTC with DRK in the code, but then we'd miss out the original network, so it would be better to add support for another coin which is much more complicated. And, there's perhaps something else that has to be done wrt multi-sigs, but I didn't quite understand what it was.

Nothing much actually needs doing. OB doesn't process transactions at all, that side is left entirely up to the buyer/seller and their arbiter of choice if they want one.

Since DRK does multisig exactly the same way BTC does, buyers/sellers can choose to use DRK, no problems.

All DRK might lack is a wallet with an easy to use multisig GUI built in. I've shown how that can be done, and I expect Electrum-DRK to have such a thing relatively shortly. Failing that anyone can use my truly beautiful and only slightly flaky multisig demo apps if they want to! Great for making super-secure multi-key private wallets too.

[Jestah]

Is http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html down?   I haven't seen my active minutes change in a while now.

[McHammer]

who predicted sell on delivery ?
me
whale can dump on enthusiasts
perfect situation for him
look in the history of dark
repeats itself over and over again

[Propulsion]

Anyway, thank you for the offer and for being reasonable - the latter something that seems to be absent from many of those frequenting this thread - and while I would very much like to accept it right the fuck now, I can't at the moment, because I don't backstab people I do business with. However, don't take that as me declining it, either - I may be able to in the future, and I would like that.

Wolf, are you the guy that made the cryptonote miner? If so, why the interest in x11 all of a sudden?

First time I've seen you post in this thread.

[coins101]

Things seem to be heating up on the BCX time warp front

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.msg9047923#msg9047923

[toknormal]

Things seem to be heating up on the BCX time warp front

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.msg9047923#msg9047923

What's he supposed to be doing ? Hacking monero accounts or something ?

[oblox]

Things seem to be heating up on the BCX time warp front

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.msg9047923#msg9047923

What's he supposed to be doing ? Hacking monero accounts or something ?

Claims to have an exploit in the cryptonote code that can destroy CN-based coins, namely Monero.

[janos666]

I am not sure if this is really over for now or Mintpal indirectly decided to do some price fixing. The Cryptsy DRK market is hovering really close the price level of the last recorded mintpal trade. Funny.

[TheUsualStuff]

Things seem to be heating up on the BCX time warp front

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.msg9047923#msg9047923

Claims to have an exploit in the cryptonote code that can destroy CN-based coins, namely Monero.

What's he supposed to be doing ? Hacking monero accounts or something ?

He has made the claim that he has discovered an exploit that will allow him to reveal the publicprivate keys of anyone who has made a transaction. Supposedly this can be done with no hashpower and is a flaw in the implementation of the mathematics. The math behind it; however, continues to be sound. This is in direct contradiction to his claim that in order to fix the supposed vulnerability, anonymity through ring signatures/stealth addresses must be sacrificed (although I do admit that he didn't say this would need to be a permanent sacrifice). I believe that is the specific reason gmaxwell called bullshit on him - because the mathematics are totally sound therefore the fix lies in changing the implementation if there a vulnerability is true.

Anyways, after revealing the public keys, the attacker still has to deal with the fact that the money he now has access to has already been spent in the past. In order to prevent a double spend, which is still impossible, he needs to perform a 'time warp' attack on the blockchain, which means start from the same genesis block (possibly checkpoint?) and create a chain that has the possibility to replace the current chain. In such a situation, he effectively 'unwinds' the blockchain and 'reverses' the transaction that has been done in the past, allowing the spending of money that was someone else's. He's made the claim that a timewarp attack is possible because of the implementation of a continuously variable difficulty (changes every block), much like KGW/DGW.

The only guess I have that could possibly only relate to monero itself, is if his specific vulnerability lies in the block and resulting patch that forked the blockchain in the last month. Otherwise, it would affect all of cryptonote.

I think it's funny how quickly this thread goes OT when Mintpal's down

[pookielax31]

[coins101]

Things seem to be heating up on the BCX time warp front

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.msg9047923#msg9047923

What's he supposed to be doing ? Hacking monero accounts or something ?

Not really sure. From what I can tell he is trying to destroy the block generation process by changing date stamping with his own blocks.  He hinted that 4-5 blocks were time stamped within a minute of each other, and they should have been around 3-4 minutes apart. Something about this being the start of a slow burn that will fuck the network up in a week or so.

The devs seem to have done a good job implementing some sort of automated checkpoint. But he is still confident that the attack will succeed.

The only question I have is that there were a few sophisticated attacks against Monero a while ago. To what extent these were prep for the main event, no one knows - its just my speculation.

The outcome of this time warp attack seems to be that he will be able to unravel anonymity and also wallets. Scary stuff.

[camosoul]

who predicted sell on delivery ?
me
whale can dump on enthusiasts
perfect situation for him
look in the history of dark
repeats itself over and over again

Lots of people hate DRK for beating their scamcoins...

[g4q34g4qg47ww]

Bahahha pookie. Play nice and hangout for a while.

[TheUsualStuff]

Not really sure. From what I can tell he is trying to destroy the block generation process by changing date stamping with his own blocks.  He hinted that 4-5 blocks were time stamped within a minute of each other, and they should have been around 3-4 minutes apart. Something about this being the start of a slow burn that will fuck the network up in a week or so.

Poisson distribution actually predicts that 4-5 blocks within a minute is statistically acceptable and predictable occurrence, given the block time of one minute. Unfortunately, with such a short block time, this method of detection of an attack is extremely hard to separate from statistically common events. It would be much easier to observe this with, say, 2.5 minute block times.

[TheUsualStuff]

Dammit wolf use paragraphs!




also, "wasting more cycles than it actually used" - this correlates directly to the power usage? Specifically a wasted cycle is one where no work was done, so no extra power was used? so out of 947 million cycles, it would only be effectively computing on 474 million of them?

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[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Is http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html down?   I haven't seen my active minutes change in a while now.

Yes. I use Uptime Robot, and it uses his masterstatus.txt, and my nodes have all been "down" for about a day.