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October 06, 2012, 10:32:02 PM
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Try selecting the day before ie 2 October

yeah did that already Smiley

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October 06, 2012, 10:39:43 PM
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Let me just check :

You have unconfirmed transactions dated 3 October in a wallet.
You have the wallet selected.
In reset blockchain and transactions you select the 'reset from date' and choose 2 October.
You click the 'reset blockchain and transactions' button

And nothing happens ?
( you should see the transactions disappear from the wallet, a 'connecting' appear for a few seconds, then 'synchronising'. Then it replays the blocks. does none of that happen ?

And also, is this version 0.4.11 ?

Edit: if the above is happening, PM to me the multibit_debug.log and the multibit_console.log. Also do a right click on the problem transaction and please send me the contents of the 'raw transaction' box.

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October 07, 2012, 06:56:26 PM
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Let me just check :

You have unconfirmed transactions dated 3 October in a wallet.
You have the wallet selected.
In reset blockchain and transactions you select the 'reset from date' and choose 2 October.
You click the 'reset blockchain and transactions' button

And nothing happens ?
( you should see the transactions disappear from the wallet, a 'connecting' appear for a few seconds, then 'synchronising'. Then it replays the blocks. does none of that happen ?

And also, is this version 0.4.11 ?

Edit: if the above is happening, PM to me the multibit_debug.log and the multibit_console.log. Also do a right click on the problem transaction and please send me the contents of the 'raw transaction' box.

Hi Jim, i am using 0.5.4 beta and after many attempts suddenlt the reset blockchain worked.. hoewever, now i have loist all my sent to and received from labels in my transactions list.

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October 07, 2012, 09:09:12 PM
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Hi bitcoinspot.nl,

Good that you have everything working but it really should not be that painful.

The labels for your addresses are stored in the 'info' files, not in the 'wallet' files.

for instance a wallet:              
"jim.wallet"  contains all the transactions and this is what a "reset blockchain and transactions" changes.
  
There will also be a file:
"jim.info"  which contains the labels for the send and receive addresses.

It could be that you have, say, copied the wallet file and not the info file as that would give those symptoms.
If you close down MultiBit and make sure there is a companion "info" file for the wallet you have that should bring all the labels back when you restart it.

Also, can you email me the log files I mentioned (to jim at multibit.org) as I would like to see if there is anything unusual going on. I try to keep the "reset blockchain and transactions" as solid as possible (as it is only used when things go wrong) but clearly there is something not quite right in it.

Thanks,

Jim

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October 08, 2012, 06:56:17 AM
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Also, can you email me the log files I mentioned (to jim at multibit.org) as I would like to see if there is anything unusual going on. I try to keep the "reset blockchain and transactions" as solid as possible (as it is only used when things go wrong) but clearly there is something not quite right in it.

Thanks,

Jim


Ok, just gave you a PM.

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October 08, 2012, 05:43:47 PM
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Where to find the BETA for mac?

And there is another problem.
If I send BTC to another address, there are only some BTC left to send, why?

Look at this screen:


Deposit 720 BTC ...
send out 15.8****

Available only 0.0045, why?
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October 08, 2012, 06:57:34 PM
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Where to find the BETA for mac?

And there is another problem.
If I send BTC to another address, there are only some BTC left to send, why?

Look at this screen:


Deposit 720 BTC ...
send out 15.8****

Available only 0.0045, why?

I'm not sure, but I think you need to wait for a couple of confirmations for the rest to become available.

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October 08, 2012, 07:03:58 PM
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All the beta are here:
https://github.com/jim618/multibit/downloads

As I am sure you know if you storing three figure sums of BTC it is imperative that you backup your private keys somewhere safe.

Available to spend is explained here:
http://multibit.org/help_availableToSpend.html
Basically it is waiting for change to be confirmed as flatfly stated.

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October 08, 2012, 07:31:03 PM
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hm, but I dont understand this.

I receive 720 Bitcoin.
The Transaction has more than 6 Confirmations.
I send 10 Bitcoins to an address and must wait, that I can send more Bitcoin to another address.

In the normal Client I dont have this problem?!

Did the windows client has the same problem?
I must send often about 4-7 transactions at the same moment.
But when I must wait every transaction to confirm, I don't
will use the client anymore Sad
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October 08, 2012, 08:22:08 PM
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Is anyone else getting a damaged Warning under OSX?


I just downloaded 0.4.11; however it happened with 0.4.10 also and never got back around to troubleshooting it (until today, so I just downloaded the newest ver).

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October 08, 2012, 10:07:32 PM
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The "damaged and can't be opened" error is from Gatekeeper. MacOS is crying because Jim isn't signing the app. He needs to get a Mac developer ID and sign MultiBit with that to make the error go away. Alternatively, disable Gatekeeper and the issue should also resolve itself.
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October 09, 2012, 06:01:26 AM
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hm, but I dont understand this.

I receive 720 Bitcoin.
The Transaction has more than 6 Confirmations.
I send 10 Bitcoins to an address and must wait, that I can send more Bitcoin to another address.

In the normal Client I dont have this problem?!

Did the windows client has the same problem?
I must send often about 4-7 transactions at the same moment.
But when I must wait every transaction to confirm, I don't
will use the client anymore Sad

You are correct that it is the recent transactions that need to be confirmed (for the change part of your transaction to appear on the blockchain). It is a known limitation and will be looked at in the future.

If you have only one or two unspent transactions in a wallet it can be a pain. If you have lots of unspent transactions (ie several small payments into the wallet rather than one big one) it is less noticeable. That is what I do - I 'load up' a wallet with payments in that are roughly the size of the payments I am making. That way you can make simultaneous payments, each of which are consuming different available transaction outputs.

Re: is it the same on Windows.
The MultiBit code is almost the same on all of Linux, Mac and Windows.

@ErebusBat
Re: GateKeeper - it is as Mike says - I need to start signing MultiBit with an Apple dev id. There is a note on the multibit.org help page that links to this how-to to fix it:
http://multibit.org/help_mountain_lion.html

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October 09, 2012, 10:28:52 AM
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hm, but I dont understand this.

I receive 720 Bitcoin.
The Transaction has more than 6 Confirmations.
I send 10 Bitcoins to an address and must wait, that I can send more Bitcoin to another address.

In the normal Client I dont have this problem?!

Did the windows client has the same problem?
I must send often about 4-7 transactions at the same moment.
But when I must wait every transaction to confirm, I don't
will use the client anymore Sad

You are correct that it is the recent transactions that need to be confirmed (for the change part of your transaction to appear on the blockchain). It is a known limitation and will be looked at in the future.

If you have only one or two unspent transactions in a wallet it can be a pain. If you have lots of unspent transactions (ie several small payments into the wallet rather than one big one) it is less noticeable. That is what I do - I 'load up' a wallet with payments in that are roughly the size of the payments I am making. That way you can make simultaneous payments, each of which are consuming different available transaction outputs.

Re: is it the same on Windows.
The MultiBit code is almost the same on all of Linux, Mac and Windows.

@ErebusBat
Re: GateKeeper - it is as Mike says - I need to start signing MultiBit with an Apple dev id. There is a note on the multibit.org help page that links to this how-to to fix it:
http://multibit.org/help_mountain_lion.html

It is not a fault of the wallet but more a feature of the bitcoin protocol.
bitcoin will try to build a transaction from your unspent inputs, but often you cannot match the exact size.

eg: your trying to bet 0.25 on mini dice but only have a single unspent input of 0.3.
bitcoin will send 0.25 to the betting address and 0.5 (minus tx fees) back to one of your existing addresses.
This is how you bitcoin automatically breaks unspent inputs into smaller usable amounts.

So to stop all/ most of you bitcoins becoming unavailable for ~10 minutes after 1 transaction you do the following:

N = Number of new addresses (I used 10 )
T = Total balance
X = T / ( N + 1) we add 1 to N to allow for tx fees .

create N new addresses
Create a transaction that sends X to each of the new addresses (done from another wallet as multibit does not seem to support multi send atm).

Now when you send an amount under X only a portion of your wallet becomes unconfirmed ( X / T  * 100 = ~ %10 ).

We found this out very quickly when testing multi bit on our site, but also found a easy solution Cheesy

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October 09, 2012, 12:59:55 PM
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The "damaged and can't be opened" error is from Gatekeeper. MacOS is crying because Jim isn't signing the app. He needs to get a Mac developer ID and sign MultiBit with that to make the error go away. Alternatively, disable Gatekeeper and the issue should also resolve itself.
I dont think it is gatekeeper, as you get a different error for that.


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October 09, 2012, 02:10:55 PM
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Have you tried the setting as described in the mountain lion link a couple of posts up ? That would decide it one way or the other.

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October 09, 2012, 04:05:15 PM
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It definitely is Gatekeeper. There appears to be some kind of bug (in something, somewhere) where Gatekeeper doesn't like Java apps, perhaps there is a mismatched signature somewhere. The error means a signature failed to match, but it's unclear where such a signature would come from.
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October 09, 2012, 04:11:25 PM
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Have you tried the setting as described in the mountain lion link a couple of posts up ? That would decide it one way or the other.

Setting GateKeeper to ANYWHERE does indeed solve the problem.  This means that despite Apple's own words:

Control+Clicking to allow the package is not the equivalent to saying 'let it run, no matter what'

Doing some further research (as I don't really want to turn off gatekeeper) it turns out that it has to do with the quarantine flag as described here: http://apple.stackexchange.com/a/58089/30611

I first tried lowering the setting and running MultiBit, then moving it back (damaged error).
Removing the quarantine flag (xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/MultiBit.app) fixed the broken error.

You might want to document this on the gatekeeper page Jim as I was under the belief that Ctrl+Clicking would do the same thing.

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October 09, 2012, 05:05:40 PM
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wow ...
5 available to send ... why?
transaction from 08.10. is confirmed with over 100 confirmations?!
damn client, sorry but it is really not good!

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October 09, 2012, 05:27:12 PM
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Please read the sections posted above on unconfirmed transactions and what 'Available to spend' means.

You have a wallet where there are only a small number of transactions outputs available to create transactions.
I expect the unconfirmed transaction of 08 Oct has a large change output. If you select that transaction and do a right click and 'View transaction details' you can see the transaction in detail.

The post above by SRoulette explains how you can create more transaction outputs.

If you are not comfortable with the structure of transactions - as outlined in the previous posts - then I suggest you do not use MultiBit. Just export your private keys and import them into blockchain.info or similar.

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October 09, 2012, 06:25:21 PM
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Apparently I am just going to become a bother....

So after getting it to it will not connect Sad  I left if for over an hour and a half

log: http://pastie.org/5025538

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