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March 26, 2014, 02:47:33 PM
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...Pool, CGminer, general idea for settings: https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison...
thanks for the quick reply... sorry i am lost here i have no idea where to put setting or how to connect to a pool
I am mining with an 6870 so this is very well possible and that was my first rig also, so I went through the same learning curve.
The PC I used was running XP, so I had to download AMD Catalyst version 12.1 which includes Open C - this is required by the miner SW.
ALso make sure to use CGminer version 3.7.2 which is the last version that supports scypt (used for mining CGA)
Then you can check if the miner work on you computer by registering with a "mining pool" such as TheDigitalMint:
https://cga.thedigitalmint.net/index.php click on "Getting started" on the lower left and follow the directions.
You will then be able to start the miner and you will need to experiment with the settings for your card to get the best results.
Hint: look for no hardware errors (HW=0) and maximum count for Work Units (WU/minute) besides getting a good "hash rate".
What I am using for my old PC and the 6870 is:
--scrypt
--shaders 1120
-I 11 (highest w/o HW errors)
-w 64
-g 2 (default)
--thread-concurrency 2048
Note that all these settings as well as any over-clocking of the GPU core and memory are very dependent on the card,
so you will have to optimize them towards your card, but you can start with fewer setting as indicated in the "Getting Started"
directions on the pool and when it starts working, add more settings to optimize.
Success!

thanks.. ok so i think i get it now. i will play around with it some today
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March 26, 2014, 02:49:53 PM
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i am really interested in this coin... how would i get started i went to the cga website and downloaded the wallet.... not sure what to do now and this is the first mining project that i have started. anyone interested in helping this n00b out.... old system... ati6970

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March 26, 2014, 02:51:03 PM
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what happened to this coin is it dead ?

Of course not

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March 26, 2014, 03:10:08 PM
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i am really interested in this coin... how would i get started i went to the cga website and downloaded the wallet.... not sure what to do now and this is the first mining project that i have started. anyone interested in helping this n00b out.... old system... ati6970

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And you have the same problem I hope someone to help

This site was helpful when I was trying to figure out how to mine. http://www.cryptobadger.com/build-your-own-litecoin-mining-rig/

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March 26, 2014, 03:12:07 PM
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.....poloniex being still frozen.....
I can confirm that Poloniex is working again - I finally went back and submitted a trade that was accepted.
Thanks for all your hard work, it is appreciated!

They had to reindex. All is well now.

All is NOT well the market is frozen again at Poloniex! New fork!?

There was a minor problem yesterday, Inceptioncraft was stuck at block 73167 but the rest of the network was fine. Busoni may have gotten stuck there and had to resync. I know that he did get past it though because my deposit eventually got through, but he may have forgotten to unfreeze the market.

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March 26, 2014, 04:15:43 PM
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hey again,

what is the difference or benefit of joining a pool with a fee as opposed to a pool with no fee?
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March 26, 2014, 05:08:41 PM
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hey again,

what is the difference or benefit of joining a pool with a fee as opposed to a pool with no fee?

Some pools charge fees, others don't. It's up to you who you trust more Smiley

If you have a low hashrate (let's say below 500 mh/s) you should stick with one of the MPOS pools, otherwise I'd recommend a p2pool, like this one: http://anomalypool.com/static/ No fees at all.
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March 26, 2014, 05:25:59 PM
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hey again,

what is the difference or benefit of joining a pool with a fee as opposed to a pool with no fee?

Some pools charge fees, others don't. It's up to you who you trust more Smiley

If you have a low hashrate (let's say below 500 mh/s) you should stick with one of the MPOS pools, otherwise I'd recommend a p2pool, like this one: http://anomalypool.com/static/ No fees at all.

Hope you meant KH/s there ... Wink
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March 26, 2014, 05:29:53 PM
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hey again,

what is the difference or benefit of joining a pool with a fee as opposed to a pool with no fee?

Some pools charge fees, others don't. It's up to you who you trust more Smiley

If you have a low hashrate (let's say below 500 mh/s) you should stick with one of the MPOS pools, otherwise I'd recommend a p2pool, like this one: http://anomalypool.com/static/ No fees at all.

Hope you meant KH/s there ... Wink

Yes, sorry, kh/s.
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March 26, 2014, 05:47:12 PM
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is changing algo from scrypt still on the table? my vote goes to x11 like darkcoin..asic and multipool resistant, cooler video cards and lower electric bills.

Probably not... The way I see it is as the scrypt ASIC start to become more and more available CGA will become more and more valuable (due to more hash power = higher difficulty = less CGA per block). So we almost welcome ASIC because it will only help CGA become more elusive.

Any consideration to put a smaller cap on the coin?  Roll Eyes

What for? You wont see more then 16 Million in your lifetime. It will take a minimum of 50,000 years to mine all 10 Billion. I don't see an issue. Wink

I've raised this question a few times, this is exactly why I think it is an issue.

Practically the first thing anyone asks when looking at a new coin is "What is the total number possible?"  In the case of CGA the answer is "10 billion".  By the time you have gone on to explain why it doesn't matter and because of the algorithm really there are only going to be a few million they have glazed over and moved onto the next coin.  Obviously that doesn't apply to the wise people who are already part of the community, but I think it does to the man on the crypto street.

If, to all intents and purposes, there can't be more than a few tens of millions then why not set the limit at say 40-50 million?  I personally think it would do a lot to help people realise it really is a rare coin.
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March 26, 2014, 06:01:46 PM
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is changing algo from scrypt still on the table? my vote goes to x11 like darkcoin..asic and multipool resistant, cooler video cards and lower electric bills.

Probably not... The way I see it is as the scrypt ASIC start to become more and more available CGA will become more and more valuable (due to more hash power = higher difficulty = less CGA per block). So we almost welcome ASIC because it will only help CGA become more elusive.

Any consideration to put a smaller cap on the coin?  Roll Eyes

What for? You wont see more then 16 Million in your lifetime. It will take a minimum of 50,000 years to mine all 10 Billion. I don't see an issue. Wink

I've raised this question a few times, this is exactly why I think it is an issue.

Practically the first thing anyone asks when looking at a new coin is "What is the total number possible?"  In the case of CGA the answer is "10 billion".  By the time you have gone on to explain why it doesn't matter and because of the algorithm really there are only going to be a few million they have glazed over and moved onto the next coin.  Obviously that doesn't apply to the wise people who are already part of the community, but I think it does to the man on the crypto street.

If, to all intents and purposes, there can't be more than a few tens of millions then why not set the limit at say 40-50 million?  I personally think it would do a lot to help people realise it really is a rare coin.

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March 26, 2014, 06:25:47 PM
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is changing algo from scrypt still on the table? my vote goes to x11 like darkcoin..asic and multipool resistant, cooler video cards and lower electric bills.

Probably not... The way I see it is as the scrypt ASIC start to become more and more available CGA will become more and more valuable (due to more hash power = higher difficulty = less CGA per block). So we almost welcome ASIC because it will only help CGA become more elusive.

Any consideration to put a smaller cap on the coin?  Roll Eyes

What for? You wont see more then 16 Million in your lifetime. It will take a minimum of 50,000 years to mine all 10 Billion. I don't see an issue. Wink

I've raised this question a few times, this is exactly why I think it is an issue.

Practically the first thing anyone asks when looking at a new coin is "What is the total number possible?"  In the case of CGA the answer is "10 billion".  By the time you have gone on to explain why it doesn't matter and because of the algorithm really there are only going to be a few million they have glazed over and moved onto the next coin.  Obviously that doesn't apply to the wise people who are already part of the community, but I think it does to the man on the crypto street.

If, to all intents and purposes, there can't be more than a few tens of millions then why not set the limit at say 40-50 million?  I personally think it would do a lot to help people realise it really is a rare coin.

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"up to 16 million in your lifetime"...and remove the 10 billion,good enough?
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March 26, 2014, 06:42:55 PM
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is changing algo from scrypt still on the table? my vote goes to x11 like darkcoin..asic and multipool resistant, cooler video cards and lower electric bills.

Probably not... The way I see it is as the scrypt ASIC start to become more and more available CGA will become more and more valuable (due to more hash power = higher difficulty = less CGA per block). So we almost welcome ASIC because it will only help CGA become more elusive.

in terms of MH the coin will be more elusive but in terms of electricity and MH the guy with a 50 MHs asic at 3000watts will get more coins than the guy with a 10MH GPU rigs at 3000watts at the same electric bill..
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March 26, 2014, 06:43:43 PM
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is changing algo from scrypt still on the table? my vote goes to x11 like darkcoin..asic and multipool resistant, cooler video cards and lower electric bills.

Probably not... The way I see it is as the scrypt ASIC start to become more and more available CGA will become more and more valuable (due to more hash power = higher difficulty = less CGA per block). So we almost welcome ASIC because it will only help CGA become more elusive.

Any consideration to put a smaller cap on the coin?  Roll Eyes

What for? You wont see more then 16 Million in your lifetime. It will take a minimum of 50,000 years to mine all 10 Billion. I don't see an issue. Wink

I've raised this question a few times, this is exactly why I think it is an issue.

Practically the first thing anyone asks when looking at a new coin is "What is the total number possible?"  In the case of CGA the answer is "10 billion".  By the time you have gone on to explain why it doesn't matter and because of the algorithm really there are only going to be a few million they have glazed over and moved onto the next coin.  Obviously that doesn't apply to the wise people who are already part of the community, but I think it does to the man on the crypto street.

If, to all intents and purposes, there can't be more than a few tens of millions then why not set the limit at say 40-50 million?  I personally think it would do a lot to help people realise it really is a rare coin.

+1

+1 I had to explain this several times in the troll box and everyone lost attention hahah:p
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March 26, 2014, 07:13:55 PM
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Any consideration to put a smaller cap on the coin?  Roll Eyes
What for? You wont see more then 16 Million in your lifetime. It will take a minimum of 50,000 years to mine all 10 Billion. I don't see an issue. Wink
I've raised this question a few times, this is exactly why I think it is an issue.

Practically the first thing anyone asks when looking at a new coin is "What is the total number possible?"  In the case of CGA the answer is "10 billion".  By the time you have gone on to explain why it doesn't matter and because of the algorithm really there are only going to be a few million they have glazed over and moved onto the next coin.  Obviously that doesn't apply to the wise people who are already part of the community, but I think it does to the man on the crypto street.

If, to all intents and purposes, there can't be more than a few tens of millions then why not set the limit at say 40-50 million?  I personally think it would do a lot to help people realise it really is a rare coin.
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+1 I had to explain this several times in the troll box and everyone lost attention hahah:p
I think the only concern an investor has is the *rate* at which coins are produced.
Now (with low diff) that is about 1 coin every 2 minutes. In future (if ASIC mining takes off and diff goes up) that may be much lower.
Only the speed at which new coins enter the market and the increase in the amount of cash flowing into the market determine
the price of the coin, so with the low rate (and likely dropping - not from "halving" but from diff increase) the value per coin should be high.
Putting a cap on the coin beyond our lifetime does not make any difference at all for any investor.
Just my 0.02 CGA

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March 26, 2014, 07:26:23 PM
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.....poloniex being still frozen.....
I can confirm that Poloniex is working again - I finally went back and submitted a trade that was accepted.
Thanks for all your hard work, it is appreciated!

They had to reindex. All is well now.

All is NOT well the market is frozen again at Poloniex! New fork!?

All IS well. The market WAS frozen, I was notified literally minutes after the market was frozen and sent an email out to Poloniex minutes after. ALL IS WELL.

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March 26, 2014, 07:31:38 PM
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For the coin mining rule I still don't understand, that will make it difficult for my mining work

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March 26, 2014, 07:41:03 PM
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ok so i have unzipped cgminer 3.7.2... i dont have an exe in the folder. i dont know how to start it. i am signed up at thedigitalmint i understand i am to set up a  batch file but have no cgminer.exe to start.. i have to compile the binaries?
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March 26, 2014, 07:59:12 PM
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ok so i have unzipped cgminer 3.7.2... i dont have an exe in the folder. i dont know how to start it. i am signed up at thedigitalmint i understand i am to set up a  batch file but have no cgminer.exe to start.. i have to compile the binaries?


Hmm, what platform is this? Windows?

If it is Windows you should have an executable - cgminer.exe.  If you don't then I suggest you delete the lot, run a thorough AV/malware scan (just being prudent) and start again.  Find a different source, or post again and I can email you the zip.

You should also have a file called SCRYPT-README.txt - I strongly recommend you read this and follow its advice, it is the best guidance I have found and produced by far the best results.
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March 26, 2014, 08:01:58 PM
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Any consideration to put a smaller cap on the coin?  Roll Eyes
What for? You wont see more then 16 Million in your lifetime. It will take a minimum of 50,000 years to mine all 10 Billion. I don't see an issue. Wink
I've raised this question a few times, this is exactly why I think it is an issue.

Practically the first thing anyone asks when looking at a new coin is "What is the total number possible?"  In the case of CGA the answer is "10 billion".  By the time you have gone on to explain why it doesn't matter and because of the algorithm really there are only going to be a few million they have glazed over and moved onto the next coin.  Obviously that doesn't apply to the wise people who are already part of the community, but I think it does to the man on the crypto street.

If, to all intents and purposes, there can't be more than a few tens of millions then why not set the limit at say 40-50 million?  I personally think it would do a lot to help people realise it really is a rare coin.
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+1 I had to explain this several times in the troll box and everyone lost attention hahah:p
I think the only concern an investor has is the *rate* at which coins are produced.
Now (with low diff) that is about 1 coin every 2 minutes. In future (if ASIC mining takes off and diff goes up) that may be much lower.
Only the speed at which new coins enter the market and the increase in the amount of cash flowing into the market determine
the price of the coin, so with the low rate (and likely dropping - not from "halving" but from diff increase) the value per coin should be high.
Putting a cap on the coin beyond our lifetime does not make any difference at all for any investor.
Just my 0.02 CGA

I understand the concern and will look into changing the descriptions to "Less than 16 Million in a lifetime". I think our 10 Billion coin max will give us an advantage in the long run. Look at it this way:

CGA is mineable for a minimum of 50,000 years, which means that CGA will be mined for generations (poised to be a lasting tradition?), that is longer than any cryptocoin that is out right now (that I know of). While about every other coin will be mined out within the developers lifetime, CGA will not. As Cor2 (kinda) said, CGA does not "half" (which in my opinion is not done right because it is on the developers terms of "when do I want my coin to be more valuable"), CGA simply decreases supply rate when the hash rate increases, so the rarity of our coin is indirectly related to our own technological advancement. CGA is not designed to be a fad, get rich quick, or pump and dump coin. It is a "long term coin" for long term investment, with our own way of life to determine the price.

I know it is a mouthful but, IMO if you are truly interested in cryptocoins and you plan on investing in them (miners included) you must do all your research on the coin you are investing in. The ones that look at just the max coins is a fool and hurting the entire coin community (bitcoin included). Ignorance, It is what is destroying modern economies and seems to of found its way into the crypto world.

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