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May 01, 2014, 10:46:53 PM
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You can't expect people to listen to you when you say you should keep your coins off exchanges because majority of people don't check Bitcointalk or forums and just buy whatever is going up and keep them on the exchange because it's secure enough and they don't have to take the time to find the wallet, download it, and hope it doesn't get stolen by a virus. If you want people to keep their coins off the exchange it has to be more profitable, more secure and less of a hassle than just leaving it there.

If you want to be the face of the ADT, you need to learn code and dedicate your time to this rather than spending time building e-bikes and digging trenches. I came across the issue your currently dealing with just prior to the Cryptsy swap since Btcltc was swapped a couple weeks prior and you told me "I'll look into it" and suddenly a month later your freaking out because all these forks are happening as a result.

My opinion is that you should take all criticism into account and get into the habit of stopping yourself every time you are about to say "it won't work" because it's all a matter of how it can work and what effect it will have.

sorry if me spending a few days here and there is not good enough but I do want a life outside of the internet

I don't think you have fully followed everything related to ADT v2

there is such a huge amount of stuff that i look into or consider if i posted it on here it would take 10+ very long posts a day to explain in in a way people understand

when i say i will look into it i do actually look into it ! 

i think the meaning of coding has got distorted as coding to me is learning how the actual code works and making new code where to post people coding is just taking other peoples work and patching it together

The current issues with the blockchain could not have been predicted as its a few different things keeping it stuck in a loop of making forks

it is never good practice to keep coins on an exchange and as you should know well that it is never good for 1 person to hold over 51% of a POS coin and right now cryptsy holds over 57% !

i would really like to learn how to code but i end up spending most of my day replying to massages  and helping people with issues / answering peoples questions

i have helped you col guys out a bunch of times and given so much advice and info to you i have no idea why you would post on this thread trying to make it look like i know nothing and spend my days playing with ebikes and digging holes

do you really think i wanted to be digging a new pond in the rain ? its very hard work and it was not optional as the last pond had a big hole in the liner
i would like to spend time playing with my ebike but i haven't had time for that in a while as i have been busy sorting stuff for ADT

 

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May 02, 2014, 01:00:12 AM
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It just bugs me when I propose different stuff we can do to work together to help each other and then you just go "that won't work" or "if you learn how to clone and modify code you'll just be tempted to release tons of clones". I'm not saying it to attack you personally and if it seemed that way I'm sorry because I like working along side you Zack, just a pet peeve to always suggest different ideas and alternatives and how it may work and just get a brush off without really discussing how it could be made possible.
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It just bugs me when I propose different stuff we can do to work together to help each other and then you just go "that won't work" or "if you learn how to clone and modify code you'll just be tempted to release tons of clones". I'm not saying it to attack you personally and if it seemed that way I'm sorry because I like working along side you Zack, just a pet peeve to always suggest different ideas and alternatives and how it may work and just get a brush off without really discussing how it could be made possible.

working with COL is not the best idea at this time as I do not agree with some of what you guys want to do / are doing / who made the coin

its nothing against you guys personally but I cannot support something I don't agree with / help with something i don't agree with

you might think that I am just dismissing valid ideas but what you forget is that I have been around here for along time and seen a huge amount of things and what happens when people focus on personal gain when making / running a coin and I do not want to get involved with that as it just causes issues down the line


I know all the basics for changing the code but without paying someone that knows what they are doing to look over it there would likely be issues with it and in my experience its cheaper to get someone to do the code than to get someone to look over it the other benefits are that it frees up time and if there are any issues the person that made that part of the code is liable to fix the issue

I will eventually get to the point of coding a test coin for my personal use only but at this time I have better things to do with my time


To keep people happy in the future I will go into a huge amount of detail  on why an idea would or wouldn't work so that the 0.1% of users that understand it fully know what is going on but please remember that all the time I am making crazy long posts and helping people with there coin issues i cant be contacting people about ADT related stuff and working on the new website ( having to learn a whole load of stuff just for that )

i have found that a lot of coins are willing to ask me about coin related things and ask who to go to for what but when its me needing the help very few people are interested giving the reason that they don't help competing coins  

i will be posting answers to the more complicated suggestions on http://www.the-adt-forum.com/ then linking to that post here as i would prefer to keep the complicated tec talk separate from the general ADT users with the option of them looking at it rather than forcing everyone to read threw long posts about stuff they have no idea about  

what would help me and the users of ADT is if suggestions for ADT are posted on http://www.the-adt-forum.com/ so that each suggestion has its own topic and it can be discussed properly

i need to know from the comunaty if they are happy with upping the POS to 0.15% / 15 days or if a higher or lower number would be better unless people input on this i will have to go with what the few people that have talked to me want and that is  4.5% / year POS

if think a category needs adding to the forum please let me know Smiley

i am happy to talk to anyone that has questions live on the forum chatbox everything to do with ADT is openly discussed unlike a fair amount of other coins as i have nothing to hide and transparency is key

( most other coins have issues for a long time before the dev will admit there is an issue ( during that time they get the patch sorted then say they made it the same day the issue was found i am not going to lie if there is an issue i will post about it so people can make fully informed choices )

under the category of Proof of Stake on www.theadtforum.com i will be starting a thread about how much pos would make you keep your wallet open 24/7 if you could post on that it would help a lot !

thanks a lot

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May 02, 2014, 03:42:12 AM
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Just put together the forum you have mentioned so users can vote on what they want. That will be good starting point.
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May 02, 2014, 03:53:15 AM
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Just put together the forum you have mentioned so users can vote on what they want. That will be good starting point.

http://www.the-adt-forum.com/index.php?topic=1002.0

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May 02, 2014, 05:24:34 AM
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good start now lets promote this here quickly. Also any news on testing/patching?
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May 02, 2014, 05:47:05 AM
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good start now lets promote this here quickly. Also any news on testing/patching?

mullick has been busy with cryptsy issues but has said he will have time the next couple of days so it should complete then there is also someone that ahmed knows looking at it so there is a backup that's working in parallel

its currently 6.43 AM and I am going to catch a couple h sleep ( been doing calculations of how inflation will affect ADT at different rates and researching what settings other POS coins are using

I should have all that compiled and posted on the voting thread within the next 18h so people have all the info before they vote

the vote has been made so people can change there vote if they look at the info and decide they want to change

   

 

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May 02, 2014, 03:29:25 PM
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just completing the info on other stake coins and someone coins have upto 600% POS ! I have no idea how long those coins will be around as the inflation is crazy

its going to take some time to get all the info made into something legible but when its done it will be posted on the adt forum

it looks like coins are now competing with the highest POS to attract users and holders ( it will collapse its just a question of when ) I don't want to go down the root of that as it would just tern ADT into a scam coin   

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May 02, 2014, 03:35:24 PM
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don't follow that path ADT deserves a better future. Get it right this time!
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May 03, 2014, 12:19:04 AM
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its very important that you all vote here > http://www.adt.altcointalk.co.uk/index.php?topic=1002.0

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May 03, 2014, 05:49:11 AM
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Zack I think it's more that you don't really understand what we want to do with Col rather than what you agree or disagree with. I would have rathered not see you go but that's up to you, good luck with ADT.
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Looking to help ADT developments wise come back up. Smiley Do let me know.

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May 03, 2014, 10:47:24 PM
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Looking to help ADT developments wise come back up. Smiley Do let me know.

there will be a lot of ADT development talk over on www.the-adt-forum.com

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May 04, 2014, 12:54:10 AM
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I am here to help as much as I can too. Lets get more users onto the proper ADT forum.
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May 05, 2014, 04:12:59 AM
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I am really sorry for the delay in fixing ADT it was meant to be fixed by the end of the weekend but all the coders have been unavailable over the weekend

( mullick has had to deal with important cryptsy issues but is sorry for the delay )

the other guys don't work weekends

long term we need to find a capable coder that is willing to work with us long term + have code contributions from the ADT comunaty


some times it really feels that coin devs are working well together other times its like nobody wants to help anyone

( I have helped so many coin devs / coins over the months it really annoys me that nobody is willing to return the favour )

one of the people I helped get there coin back on track ( must have spent 20h talking to him ) wont help ( saying that the more coins that die the better his coin will do ) how did the crypto comunaty get to this point ?

a few months back people used to work with each other and help people out that needed it now days everyone is only interested if it benefits them Sad

even devs that have helped out random scam coins for free wont consider helping ADT even if i paid them

if anyone has any info on anyone that is good with pos coins please let me know there user names so i can contact them ( mullick wants to do this but keeps getting held up fixing / upgrading the mess that is cryptsy )     



 

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May 05, 2014, 04:22:27 AM
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its the smell of cash that makes people do things you would not believe. Said but is the cold hard truth I wish I knew someone reliable.
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May 05, 2014, 04:54:28 AM
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Have you asked Tranz?
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May 05, 2014, 06:06:12 AM
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Have you asked Tranz?

he made it clear last time that he doesn't want to help competing coins

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May 05, 2014, 09:34:19 AM
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i disagree. Tranz helped me with the Proof Of Stake on ADTv2. however you were very unwilling to listen to any of his suggestions regarding PoS amounts. as he predicted this exact same scenario you are in where no one keeps their coins in their own wallets and off cryptsy

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May 05, 2014, 11:37:44 AM
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i disagree. Tranz helped me with the Proof Of Stake on ADTv2. however you were very unwilling to listen to any of his suggestions regarding PoS amounts. as he predicted this exact same scenario you are in where no one keeps their coins in their own wallets and off cryptsy


he wouldn't even make the new adt chain for double what I paid you ! and there is no way that the pos amounts he suggested would b sustainabe

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