[ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com

[neozbiljni]

Reading these boards is an essay on human nature.

It doesn't matter how successful the pool is, nor does it matter what external influences (such as alt-coin market dynamics) exist, nor how effectively the pool operator manages his obligations, there will still be people who complain.

I'm not talking about legitimate complaints, I mean those who just whine at every opportunity, every "burp" in the system.

Really a sad story.

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who is not happy here.......there is plenty of other pools......right?? 

[csa1234]

Just want to share with you guys, that im getting paid 0.00758BTC/Mh/Day on another pool (after exchanges to BTC). Payouts are made in NXT Coin... but very very good performance. I encorage everybody to move onto NXT Coin pool as its a different coin than BTC. When more people get there higher the payout will be

[bonfiredev]

Looking for some support from clevermining... I went on vacation on the 20th and just got back to find out clevermining stopped accumulating stats on the 23rd.  My mining rig has been humming along fine though as always, and says its still doing 2Mh/s and has accumulated 97291 accepted shares.  I've made no changes to my config and had been using clevermining for a couple weeks prior to my vacation without any hiccups.  So what's the deal?  If my rig is mining but I'm not seeing any stats in clevermining, where the heck is my revenue going???

Would prefer if someone from clevermining would contact me directly.  Any way to get hold of them?

Thanks,
Rob

[compumine]

I came across clevermining after I got my gridseed miners.  I wanted to get them going on a good pool and multicoin pools were poping up like crazy.  After doing some reading and checking around I came across the pool.  The interface was by far the best I've seen.  Which got me hooked.  I started mining there.  After 24 hours of mining I realized that my rejection rate was high!! Checked with the forum and realized that others had the same thing.  Mind you, if you look back at this thread and at ridit, that's all you'll read about.  "high reject". 

Terk tries to do his best and I can see that he replies to most requests.  Aside from the drama that has been going on for the past 2 days between the members, there was no reason to have some expert members voice their concerns and share technical information with Terk. As I am an armature still at mining.

While all this was happening, I looked at other alternatives. coinshift got my attention.  I looked to compare both pools.  I liked the idea of coinshift and the explaination of the pool towards the crypto currency health.

Here is a compairason between the 2 pools as of now:

Clevermining: 22,708.9 MH/s
Coinshitf: 2185.122 MH/s

Profit 24H outlook
Clevermining: 0.00511 BTC/day/MH
Coinshift: 0.00558

It's clearly that Coinshit with such a small percentage of Hash power is doing something wright to get a good return.  The pay is as low as 0.001 instead of 0.01 and its done without any issues.

I like Clevermining, but until these issues are sorted out and I can mine without having to keep looking and checking every hour, Coinshift deserves the hash power for now.

[VirosaGITS]

Yes, us Québecois have great internet and servers

@Terk, i understand its too complicated for the many to setup manual failovers(and just about everything else). But i would be one of the few to prefer using my own failovers :3

Quick-setup miners should use an url like na.cm.com for north america, eu.cm.com for eu, etc, while advanced user will prolly want to use sf, ny, ca.cm.com etc.

[VirosaGITS]

I came across clevermining after I got my gridseed miners.  I wanted to get them going on a good pool and multicoin pools were poping up like crazy.  After doing some reading and checking around I came across the pool.  The interface was by far the best I've seen.  Which got me hooked.  I started mining there.  After 24 hours of mining I realized that my rejection rate was high!! Checked with the forum and realized that others had the same thing.  Mind you, if you look back at this thread and at ridit, that's all you'll read about.  "high reject".  

Terk tries to do his best and I can see that he replies to most requests.  Aside from the drama that has been going on for the past 2 days between the members, there was no reason to have some expert members voice their concerns and share technical information with Terk. As I am an armature still at mining.

While all this was happening, I looked at other alternatives. coinshift got my attention.  I looked to compare both pools.  I liked the idea of coinshift and the explaination of the pool towards the crypto currency health.

Here is a compairason between the 2 pools as of now:

Clevermining: 22,708.9 MH/s
Coinshitf: 2185.122 MH/s

Profit 24H outlook
Clevermining: 0.00511 BTC/day/MH
Coinshift: 0.00558

It's clearly that Coinshit with such a small percentage of Hash power is doing something wright to get a good return.  The pay is as low as 0.001 instead of 0.01 and its done without any issues.

I like Clevermining, but until these issues are sorted out and I can mine without having to keep looking and checking every hour, Coinshift deserves the hash power for now.

You're basing this on a tiny 24 hours? Anyways... Fail overs is the solution. So, see you later, i guess?

[STT]

Reads like a good advert for another pool.    Perhaps compare a few different pools to be more convincing

[Frankthechicken]

Looking for some support from clevermining... I went on vacation on the 20th and just got back to find out clevermining stopped accumulating stats on the 23rd.  My mining rig has been humming along fine though as always, and says its still doing 2Mh/s and has accumulated 97291 accepted shares.  I've made no changes to my config and had been using clevermining for a couple weeks prior to my vacation without any hiccups.  So what's the deal?  If my rig is mining but I'm not seeing any stats in clevermining, where the heck is my revenue going???

Would prefer if someone from clevermining would contact me directly.  Any way to get hold of them?

Thanks,
Rob

Not affiliated with Clevermining... just a user but this sounds like your miner was redirected.  Read this thread starting around the bottom of page 153 for what likely happened to your miner.

Basically, a bunch of miners from a bunch of different pools got redirected to a different IP address.  There were a bunch of correlations people found, but no one ever found -THE- cause as far as I can tell.  Anyone who got redirected were essentially mining for free at a pool stealing hashrate.

Restarting the miner at a minimum will fix it at least temporarily.  I have not seen anyone complain about being redirected in at least a few days so maybe the root cause has been solved.

[omnik]

Clevermining reject ratio is ridiculous at this moment 

[bonfiredev]

Thanks Frank.  I'm using BAMT from a usb stick and nothing else has ever been installed on this.  Furthermore, because we were on vacation, other computers in the local network were shut down, and my home router is tiered with a second home router, so to get access to this machine someone would have had to have hacked through two routers/firewalls....  My miner is currently resolving us.clevermining.com fine, but its possible that dns was poisoned temporarily at the ISP level to trick my miner into resolving to a different IP.  I found
using netstat that the only connection to an external IP was to 46.28.205.80:3333 from Zurich ( http://www.iplookup.ca/46.28.205.80 ).  Clearly they somehow tricked the miner into connecting to that IP address.  I have tons to catch up on after being out for almost 2 weeks so I haven't read up all the thread on this, but the speculation that it was some malicious software we downloaded is simply not possible.  It had to be either a DNS hijacking, or the BAMT software has a backdoor, or possibly clevermining purposely resolved us to this new IP.   No other possibility in my mind.  Very suspicious of BAMT as well as clevermining... Since the dns is hosted by cloudflare, it could have been someone at cloudflare too.  I may start specifying the IP in my cgminer.conf rather than the us.clevermining.com address.  That should eliminate the DNS hijacking possibility.

Anyways, thanks for pointing me to the beginning of that thread.

Rob

Not affiliated with Clevermining... just a user but this sounds like your miner was redirected.  Read this thread starting around the bottom of page 153 for what likely happened to your miner.

Basically, a bunch of miners from a bunch of different pools got redirected to a different IP address.  There were a bunch of correlations people found, but no one ever found -THE- cause as far as I can tell.  Anyone who got redirected were essentially mining for free at a pool stealing hashrate.

Restarting the miner at a minimum will fix it at least temporarily.  I have not seen anyone complain about being redirected in at least a few days so maybe the root cause has been solved.

[phzi]

Clevermining reject ratio is ridiculous at this moment 
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Looks like a perfectly acceptable ~3% reject average.

[bonfiredev]

anyone notice that all the following resolve to the same IP  (192.99.44.159) ?

sf.clevermining.com
ny.clevermining.com
us.clevermining.com
ca.clevermining.com

So I'm guessing you're not going to have any better luck trying these supposed location based subdomains....

Rob

[phzi]

anyone notice that all the following resolve to the same IP  (192.99.44.159) ?

sf.clevermining.com
ny.clevermining.com
us.clevermining.com
ca.clevermining.com

So I'm guessing you're not going to have any better luck trying these supposed location based subdomains....

Rob

Terk has posted about this recently.  If I recall correctly, everything is being hosted in at the ca node because accept rates were universally higher there, even for users on the san fran node.

This will likely change in the future, so these subdomains may point to different stratum endpoints again soon.

[omnik]

Clevermining reject ratio is ridiculous at this moment 
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Looks like a perfectly acceptable ~3% reject average.

Check accepted and rejected. Its almost 50/50

[phzi]

Check accepted and rejected. Its almost 50/50

Are you getting untracked stratum shares or something?  Only the card percentage reject numbers likely matter - the upper number is probably a display error.

[lsvpa]

Clevermining reject ratio is ridiculous at this moment 
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Looks like a perfectly acceptable ~3% reject average.

Check accepted and rejected. Its almost 50/50

That's not how it works. You need to look at the per gpu reject %, not the global. They refer to different things. Your reject rate is around 3%, which is good.

[Terk]

Clevermining reject ratio is ridiculous at this moment 
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Looks like a perfectly acceptable ~3% reject average.

Check accepted and rejected. Its almost 50/50

This is a known bug. The top line stats counts some weird things as rejects so this is inflated. Your miner software counts correct pool responses as rejects, but as they are not really rejects, it cannot associate it to any job which one of GPUs were working on. So it increases the count in the top line, but doesn't increase number of reject in per-GPU stats.

All actually rejected shares are counted in the per-GPU stats and this is the reliable stats which you should believe in.

[dtoor]

Hey guys,

I just looked at my account and saw that the site had done a payout for 0.03438 and then I synced my wallet to find out that I had only received 0.02478911
Does anyone know why it did that? I am new to this.

Thanks

[Terk]

Hey guys,

I just looked at my account and saw that the site had done a payout for 0.03438 and then I synced my wallet to find out that I had only received 0.02478911
Does anyone know why it did that? I am new to this.

Thanks

This is most likely either your wallet error or your mistake.

You need to provide username and transaction ID for anyone to be able to check anything for you.

[dtoor]

My address is 1ATYrHbHgcDT4ba63JxXeyus1YXtPLSoTf
Thanks

Hey guys,

I just looked at my account and saw that the site had done a payout for 0.03438 and then I synced my wallet to find out that I had only received 0.02478911
Does anyone know why it did that? I am new to this.

Thanks

This is most likely either your wallet error or your mistake.

You need to provide username and transaction ID for anyone to be able to check anything for you.