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Author Topic: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com  (Read 554394 times)
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August 15, 2014, 05:27:01 AM
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never a top pool but often 2nd one Smiley mining it as my backup

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August 15, 2014, 07:45:04 PM
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lol this guy
http://clevermining.com/users/1BT9cPLGRep7nXnvo9JoXn6H7sSd5Em2WE
got dream job :DD 20k $ a day 80 k mhs
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August 16, 2014, 06:02:51 AM
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I am not sure if this answers your question about the stuck balance. But could it be that the coins that need to be traded into btc are off too low of value to be traded at any exchange. For example cryptsy wont let you trade 1 dvc since its its value is too low for a trade so you need a couple of coins. Since these are pools that mine multiple coins maybe the last of these get get stuck. I had the same problem when I stopped mining. I do mine it as my backup pool now with a couple of old usb dual miner sticks running on cleaver as primary.
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August 16, 2014, 02:25:04 PM
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lol this guy
http://clevermining.com/users/1BT9cPLGRep7nXnvo9JoXn6H7sSd5Em2WE
got dream job :DD 20k $ a day 80 k mhs

Wow! At 90 GH/s that one address accounts for more than half the entire pool size. That's an operation, not just some guy.

According to searches, I think this is the Chinese whale. I guess he grew up, because last I paid attention to him his farm was a lot smaller.

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August 17, 2014, 04:01:58 AM
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lol this guy
http://clevermining.com/users/1BT9cPLGRep7nXnvo9JoXn6H7sSd5Em2WE
got dream job :DD 20k $ a day 80 k mhs

Wow! At 90 GH/s that one address accounts for more than half the entire pool size. That's an operation, not just some guy.

According to searches, I think this is the Chinese whale. I guess he grew up, because last I paid attention to him his farm was a lot smaller.

Dont you reckon it's >suchmoon< ?

Used to be, when you clicked the Search for User button, you got a list of wallet addresses, and how much hash per day they were generating, and how much payout they were getting.  I did spreadsheet to see where I stood in the mix.  And I took down the address of the guy who had been top dog for a few days running.  I set alerts for his address on blockchain.com, so I get email about how much he is taking in.  I named the alert "CMFish"... Wink  Clever Mining Not-quite-a-whale-maybe...



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August 17, 2014, 04:11:57 AM
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I am not sure if this answers your question about the stuck balance. But could it be that the coins that need to be traded into btc are off too low of value to be traded at any exchange. For example cryptsy wont let you trade 1 dvc since its its value is too low for a trade so you need a couple of coins. Since these are pools that mine multiple coins maybe the last of these get get stuck. I had the same problem when I stopped mining. I do mine it as my backup pool now with a couple of old usb dual miner sticks running on cleaver as primary.
I mine here half the time.
The other half, a pool with an API so keeping track is automatic...

I have made about 1.5 BTC, and my max possible stuck balance is about .01.  (How could I know for sure?)
I database my stats, I am just fascinated with the numbers...but if the damned immature and unexchanged suddenly said ZERO, could I argue?  Would it be worth my time to argue?

In my car, I keep quarters in the rubber iPad cup.  The other coins I keep in an old cigarette pack (now I vape).  Since 1984, all the pennies are not even made of copper...how many do I have?  Forgive me Caesar, but why should I care? 

BUT I am sympathetic to new miners who dont have many devices and they are trying, just like me, to catch the flow of it.
I dont care about how many BTC fall off the truck or how many Turk makes...I care how many I make. 

If you arent making at least .01 per day, sell something and buy another miner...so called "stuck balances" never kept anybody from getting a payout...



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August 17, 2014, 05:10:10 AM
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Dont you reckon it's >suchmoon< ?

Huh? Why in the world would I own 90 GH/s of Scrypt hardware?

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August 17, 2014, 07:19:06 AM
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Have had Total Expected 0.01820265 BTC for two weeks. 
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August 17, 2014, 10:31:31 AM
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Have had Total Expected 0.01820265 BTC for two weeks. 

OMG...
Okay, today i'm feeling good, so i will be nice.
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August 18, 2014, 02:58:40 AM
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Dont you reckon it's >suchmoon< ?

Huh? Why in the world would I own 90 GH/s of Scrypt hardware?

Yeah, I have no idea where that came from. I didn't think you led a double life...

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August 18, 2014, 05:32:50 AM
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Dont you reckon it's >suchmoon< ?

Huh? Why in the world would I own 90 GH/s of Scrypt hardware?


My guess....
Hong Kong scrypt mining hardware firm with loads of excessive miners sitting idle in the shop and are mining until orders are coming in for them.

Only they can have 200-300+ hardware on hand for testing each day and let it hash daily (confirming unit works) and collect "idle time" coins to help pay for the employees... $25k+ per day is a good income for the business.

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August 18, 2014, 05:48:19 AM
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1: Clevermining.com "Pool 0 is issuing work for an old block: "  When it does this, the miners sit idle can take up to 5 minutes each old block.

Could somebody put more details on this? We are not mining on any old blocks for sure.

Maybe your miner considers a block as old if we switch back to a previously mined coin? Consider this:

1) We are mining block X of coin A.
2) Coin B just lowered difficulty and we switched to coin B as it became more profitable and we're mining block Y.
3) We mined block Y of coin B and its difficulty rose again so it stopped being profitable.
4) We switch again to coin A, but since it didn't have any blocks found in the meantime, we are mining on the same block again, so we try to hash again block X.

Could some mining software thing that this is an old block just because it was working on it previously, then switched to another block and then switched to the same previous block again? In single-coin mining this scenario (getting again a previously mined block) means that the pool sends an old block. But in coin-switching this is perfectly valid and your miner should continue mining on the block X without issues.

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August 18, 2014, 08:42:45 PM
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lol this guy
http://clevermining.com/users/1BT9cPLGRep7nXnvo9JoXn6H7sSd5Em2WE
got dream job :DD 20k $ a day 80 k mhs

Wow! At 90 GH/s that one address accounts for more than half the entire pool size. That's an operation, not just some guy.

According to searches, I think this is the Chinese whale. I guess he grew up, because last I paid attention to him his farm was a lot smaller.

Dont you reckon it's >suchmoon< ?

I reckon it's one of those prepaid miner companies mining with as many of the prepaid miners as they can. Just keep announcing delays. When the diff gets to high dump them to the prepayers and count your profits. It's a win/win for them.

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August 18, 2014, 09:27:04 PM
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Geez that guy must have an insane operation going. He's at 21GH/s now, but 90GH/s would be amazing.
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August 19, 2014, 02:27:10 AM
Last edit: August 19, 2014, 02:37:43 AM by apmapm12
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Have had Total Expected 0.01820265 BTC for two weeks.  

Lol I hear u there man I'm making like 0.0003 a day Sad lol long live gaw... The bitfurys are actaully pretty nice for 1.3 mh
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August 19, 2014, 05:46:29 AM
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1: Clevermining.com "Pool 0 is issuing work for an old block: "  When it does this, the miners sit idle can take up to 5 minutes each old block.

Could somebody put more details on this? We are not mining on any old blocks for sure.

Maybe your miner considers a block as old if we switch back to a previously mined coin? Consider this:

1) We are mining block X of coin A.
2) Coin B just lowered difficulty and we switched to coin B as it became more profitable and we're mining block Y.
3) We mined block Y of coin B and its difficulty rose again so it stopped being profitable.
4) We switch again to coin A, but since it didn't have any blocks found in the meantime, we are mining on the same block again, so we try to hash again block X.

Could some mining software thing that this is an old block just because it was working on it previously, then switched to another block and then switched to the same previous block again? In single-coin mining this scenario (getting again a previously mined block) means that the pool sends an old block. But in coin-switching this is perfectly valid and your miner should continue mining on the block X without issues.

Is there a way to tell the mining software to ignore this error?

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August 19, 2014, 01:13:02 PM
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Is this pool's payout system a PPLNS or PROP?

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August 19, 2014, 01:20:51 PM
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Is this pool's payout system a PPLNS or PROP?

CleverMining is a PROP payout pool.
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August 19, 2014, 02:12:16 PM
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 Sad New to mining in general and generally mining on BTCGuild but thought I'd give this place a go...

Running same setup but literally getting 100% rejects whereas on the above pool getting almost 0% I'd like to try this site a bit more but cant justify leaving my 30Gh/s @ 100% loss.

tried the eu and the us stratums... same thing...  Huh
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August 19, 2014, 02:14:22 PM
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Sad New to mining in general and generally mining on BTCGuild but thought I'd give this place a go...

Running same setup but literally getting 100% rejects whereas on the above pool getting almost 0% I'd like to try this site a bit more but cant justify leaving my 30Gh/s @ 100% loss.

tried the eu and the us stratums... same thing...  Huh

If you're mining on BTCGuild, that means you are mining Bitcoin on the SHA-256 Algorithm. 30Gh/s would be like a Rockminer, or a BFL.
ASICs can only mine on one algorithm only. Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASICs are for Bitcoin and other SHA-256 coins only.
This is a scrypt pool, for coins such as Litecoin or Dogecoin.
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