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September 24, 2014, 06:15:52 AM Last edit: September 24, 2014, 06:27:37 AM by Collider |
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BFL consistenly and systematically fucked customers over last year, denying them refunds although they were required BY LAW to give them, as they didn´t ship their product near advertised time or on spec (efficiency!). False. There was no law requiring us to give refunds. Please cite caselaw to support your position (you can't, since it doesn't exist. Please consult a lawyer before addressing this issue going forward. As for the advertised spec, people were offered refunds and were in fact REQUIRED to accept the new specs or they would be given a refund if they did not respond in a certain amount of time. How much more proactive and ethical can it get in that regard? Bad business ethics includes all the mentioned problems, aswell as the systematic preying on newbies through false advertising. What false advertising would that be? It seems that unlike you, the FTC has a perfectly working understanding of the described problems ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Then again, this is only my internet law degree speaking, so maybe it is all a huge misunderstanding with the FTC ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Butterfly Labs violated Section 5(a) of the FTC Act unfair or deceptive business practices in or affecting commerce
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dogie (OP)
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September 24, 2014, 06:40:26 AM |
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When its sensible. I don't like updating for one company otherwise everyone would demand immediate updates as soon as anything happens. The guide isn't designed to be that responsible.
And let me guess when you will update you will ignore the past events and you will score companies based on what's going on when you do the update right? I'm not sure what you're problem is. Is it because ST's rating went down and now you can't spam the affiliate link everywhere in every thread?
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September 24, 2014, 07:12:46 AM |
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You should check the definition of hissy fit. That's the kind of tantrum you usually throw.
LOOOOk who's not talking NOW... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) its time for some answers Boy Clearly it's you... throwing another tantrum. What a surprise. Gotta say,you got "balls of steel" dude!!! Can't wait to see how you & Sonny squirm outta the grip of the FTC & USMS ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) BTW,I'm LOVIN the drama!!!!!!!!! ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day long, you are the asshole." -Raylan Givens Got GOXXED ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiqRpPiJAU&feature=youtu.be"An ASIC being late is perfectly normal, predictable, and legal..."Hashfast & BFL slogan ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 24, 2014, 10:50:24 AM |
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You should check the definition of hissy fit. That's the kind of tantrum you usually throw.
LOOOOk who's not talking NOW... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) its time for some answers Boy Clearly it's you... throwing another tantrum. What a surprise. Gotta say,you got "balls of steel" dude!!! Can't wait to see how you & Sonny squirm outta the grip of the FTC & USMS ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) BTW,I'm LOVIN the drama!!!!!!!!! ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) LOL, never a dull moment in bitcoinland. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 24, 2014, 12:28:48 PM |
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You should check the definition of hissy fit. That's the kind of tantrum you usually throw.
LOOOOk who's not talking NOW... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) its time for some answers Boy Clearly it's you... throwing another tantrum. What a surprise. Josh, be so kind to shut up and enjoy the show.
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September 24, 2014, 12:44:11 PM |
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You should check the definition of hissy fit. That's the kind of tantrum you usually throw.
LOOOOk who's not talking NOW... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) its time for some answers Boy Clearly it's you... throwing another tantrum. What a surprise. Josh, be so kind to shut up and enjoy the show. He has teh best seat ^^
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September 24, 2014, 02:02:07 PM |
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Clearly it's you... throwing another tantrum. What a surprise. Shouldn't you be working on a resume or something? On the other hand, given your reputation and the incredibly rich Google paper trail you've left behind, you're likely unemployable at this point.
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September 24, 2014, 03:11:33 PM |
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You should check the definition of hissy fit. That's the kind of tantrum you usually throw.
LOOOOk who's not talking NOW... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) its time for some answers Boy Clearly it's you... throwing another tantrum. What a surprise. Dont worry you will eat a bags of dicks soon. Bitch
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September 24, 2014, 03:21:05 PM |
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You should check the definition of hissy fit. That's the kind of tantrum you usually throw.
LOOOOk who's not talking NOW... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) its time for some answers Boy Clearly it's you... throwing another tantrum. What a surprise. Gotta say,you got "balls of steel" dude!!! Can't wait to see how you & Sonny squirm outta the grip of the FTC & USMS ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) BTW,I'm LOVIN the drama!!!!!!!!! ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) It's not called Balls of Steel, it's called being a Psychopath.
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September 24, 2014, 03:59:46 PM |
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You should check the definition of hissy fit. That's the kind of tantrum you usually throw.
Your company got shut down by the FTC. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.sodahead.com%2Fprofiles%2F0%2F0%2F2%2F4%2F6%2F2%2F9%2F2%2F7%2Froflmao-48419703614.jpeg&t=665&c=yJN-aGefjMF28w)
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Buy & Hold
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September 24, 2014, 05:47:52 PM |
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No on was arrested. This is a civil case, not criminal. It may evolve into a criminal case however.
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September 25, 2014, 05:43:07 AM |
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Hey Doggie...what should the rating be on a company that has been taken over by the FTC in receivership or whatever it is called and now is being investigated by IRS?..and of course likely the obligatory mail fraud.....wire money fraud etc etc to come? me thinks the BFL score should be a going way way down or course Josh will then get on and say you are 'unfair' but that goes w/o saying actually (BFL first neg rating in doggies thread) heh ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Old Style Legacy Plug & Play BBS System. Get it from www.synchro.net. Updated 1/1/2021. It also works with Windows 10 and likely 11 and allows 16 bit DOS game doors on the same Win 10 Machine in Multi-Node! Five Minute Install! Look it over it uninstalls just as fast, if you simply want to look it over. Freeware! Full BBS System! It is a frigging hoot!:)
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September 25, 2014, 06:43:47 AM |
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... (BFL first neg rating in doggies thread) heh ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) neg! neg! neg! neg! neg! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 25, 2014, 08:18:09 AM |
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Hey Doggie...what should the rating be on a company that has been taken over by the FTC in receivership or whatever it is called and now is being investigated by IRS?..and of course likely the obligatory mail fraud.....wire money fraud etc etc to come? me thinks the BFL score should be a going way way down or course Josh will then get on and say you are 'unfair' but that goes w/o saying actually (BFL first neg rating in doggies thread) heh ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'll just leave it for now, again I can't just set companies as 1! When hashfast went bankrupt they were frozen, as is vmc so only fair to do the same for now.
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September 25, 2014, 09:04:25 AM |
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Hey Doggie...what should the rating be on a company that has been taken over by the FTC in receivership or whatever it is called and now is being investigated by IRS?..and of course likely the obligatory mail fraud.....wire money fraud etc etc to come? me thinks the BFL score should be a going way way down or course Josh will then get on and say you are 'unfair' but that goes w/o saying actually (BFL first neg rating in doggies thread) heh ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'll just leave it for now, again I can't just set companies as 1! When hashfast went bankrupt they were frozen, as is vmc so only fair to do the same for now. well it was a unique situation (or I hope so ..) so had to ask...... well life could be worse we could be investors in BFL from back in the day .....not looking too good now
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Old Style Legacy Plug & Play BBS System. Get it from www.synchro.net. Updated 1/1/2021. It also works with Windows 10 and likely 11 and allows 16 bit DOS game doors on the same Win 10 Machine in Multi-Node! Five Minute Install! Look it over it uninstalls just as fast, if you simply want to look it over. Freeware! Full BBS System! It is a frigging hoot!:)
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September 25, 2014, 11:03:23 AM |
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new category: FTC'd ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 30, 2014, 04:28:48 PM |
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15. Tape out August 2013 True. I just wanted to share this with you all, from the FTC's Attachment X: https://i.imgur.com/ClB3Fqz.pngIt's a shame their ethics rating can't drop any lower.
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September 30, 2014, 05:48:20 PM |
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To be fair you're quoting something back in time which doesn't really make sense. What you should be quoting is the resultant shipping dates he came up with after that November conversation.
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