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Author Topic: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins).  (Read 12572 times)
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August 31, 2018, 05:16:21 PM
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We obey the laws and regulations of Belize, as well as international PML Act and PMLFT regulations. We also cooperate with Interpol and Europol when it comes to financial crime, and there have been cases when we had official inquiries from those organisations.

ChangeNOW has never left its office. The office has never been located where ni23457 insists it has.

Companies change their whitepapers all the time, the information about the founders is always subject to change - that's how businesses are maintained. Still, there haven't been any changes in ChangeNOW's key staff. We aren't making a crowdsale and our key investors are acquainted with the key staff very well.

Evercode Lab is one of ChangeNOW's contractors. We don't see any reasons to hide it.

We aren't accusing anyone of anything. We simply don't have any right to do so as a business. However, we are lawfully obliged to check all of our suspicious clients and submit info about them to the regulatory authorities.

Yes, yes, regulations, PML, PMLFT, Interpol, Europol, regulatory authorities, KYC, AML - great words, I like it. But this is just words for kids. Not a single fact. The only fact that you can bring is a piece of paper from a Belize offshore company, bought for $1000 (the cheapest and dirtiest offshore zone in the world).

But I leave evidence in every post.


I say that you are from Russia and this is a fact.

https://s33.postimg.cc/cbhumumtr/Screenshot_from_2018-08-31_18-32-40.png

This is the last page of your WhitePapper (version 1.22 WhitePaper.NOWToken.v1.2.pdf?v=1.22)

Do you not deny it?


Why if I type in Google names of CEO and lead Developer I see that CEO and lead Developer are(until 2018-08-15) founders of Russian Evercode Lab ltd?

https://s33.postimg.cc/6olhpqmzj/Screenshot_from_2018-08-31_17-51-47.png



Do you want to say that Google and dozens of those sites are lying?

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August 31, 2018, 06:42:06 PM
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haha, I'll pay lots of money to see your face when the interpol will come, Mr. Scammer =))

P.S. did you know that CEO is not equal to “the owner”? I can create a company and hire CEO for example from San Marino. It doesn’t mean that this company will be San Marino’s based company.
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August 31, 2018, 08:09:15 PM
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haha, I'll pay lots of money to see your face when the interpol will come, Mr. Scammer =))

P.S. did you know that CEO is not equal to “the owner”? I can create a company and hire CEO for example from San Marino. It doesn’t mean that this company will be San Marino’s based company.

It's funny because you both user&exchanger are acting as scumbags (I will assume that you are just the "Mr hyde" part of the exchanger), and you are not finding a good equilibrium according to the game theory.


I think that the exchanger should just develop the clearest and simplest KYC procedure it can, not the best to find "scammers", but the minimum to comply the law. I doubt that video calls are a strict law requirement.

The user, on the other hand, should stop to try to damage the exchanger's businessas a form of blackmail and just give them the required info, at least some good quality fake info so they can say they tried to comply the law at their best.

Or you can just mutually destroy, just please keep on posting here so I can read while I eat my popcorn...
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September 03, 2018, 06:44:43 PM
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Just an off topic response (mod can delete it if they want to)...

I have not looked into any details but just noticed that the OP is spending money to advertise this topic for awareness. S/he is paying money on advertising slot to display the add for this topic. Blow me  Smiley




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September 03, 2018, 06:49:44 PM
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Just an off topic response by the way...

I have not look into any details but just noticed that the OP is spending money to advertise this topic for awareness. S/he is paying money on advertising slot to display the add for this topic. Blow me  Smiley

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I just noticed this ad also in some of the threads in service discussion so I clicked the banner and brings me here, I'm just about to reply here about this one and saw your reply. And yeah this ad is not just for some marketing pomotions but to raise awareness of this sh*t ICO.

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September 03, 2018, 08:51:08 PM
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Google this one. But this all crazy, there are more persons involved all of this.
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The whole story is getting scary with everyone wanting to have a peice. I would like to see how this ends.

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September 04, 2018, 04:38:59 AM
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Another new ICO ))?
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September 04, 2018, 07:04:19 AM
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This is nice story.  What happen next?


So you call them scam cause you wont to do Kyc for them?  and you put fake kyc?  .
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September 04, 2018, 07:53:09 AM
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It's amazing! A person caught in fraud (sending someone else's documents), instead of going through KYC and getting his BTC, spends money to spoil the reputation of ChangeNOW. This is blackmail!

P.S. I see that ni23457 created another alt - isintel. All his messages (2) only about ChangeNOW. Before that, there was Norinma and a few more. I think it's a dirty game, worthy of shit. I have been following this story for a long time, ni23457 buys Reddit votes http://archive.fo/iXMQm , buys articles in blogs, instead of settling the problem by contacting the exchange. Why does not he want to reveal his identity to us, does not show his BTC wallet? I'm sure this guy wanted to launder money, but he was caught.
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September 04, 2018, 09:16:59 AM
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you scared the hell out of me with your advertisement.. Thought i was scammed with another project  Angry
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September 04, 2018, 12:50:30 PM
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I was attracted by your advertisement. that place usually shows various ICO-profit advertisements. You really have a good idea.
Let me see your unfortunate experience.But I am very surprised, why don't you provide your KYC? 100BCH This is a very large amount, even if you are adventurous to provide your real kyc.

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September 04, 2018, 01:05:55 PM
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When you decide to put 100 BCH on the site, it means that you have put a massive trust on it.
If I were you, I will think twice before try to deposit or at least I can find their office in your place or your country.

Hope you will got your money back,amen.

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September 04, 2018, 02:11:18 PM
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He can do it easily by passing AML/KYC procedure anytime but he is afraid to do that for some reason

I've successfully passed AML/KYC at Poloniex, Bittrex, Bitfinex, Bitstamp, Binance, Okex and never had any problems with that. I don't understand why it's such a big deal for the person with as he says honestly earned bitcoins.
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September 04, 2018, 02:26:09 PM
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If you don't understand what you are doing in this thread and why the forum has this advertisement, I will clarify.

So, if ni23457 started saying that someone is buying someone, I will remind you that Mr. ni23457 has an army of bots in Reddit that spread false information.

https://www.reddit.com/u/andyrgreig
https://www.reddit.com/u/asherx
https://www.reddit.com/user/Bronnylee
https://www.reddit.com/u/dbroncoboy
https://www.reddit.com/u/gabyshinn
https://www.reddit.com/u/iseoranker
https://www.reddit.com/u/kanetreble
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https://www.reddit.com/u/redshreds
https://www.reddit.com/u/spagrspagr
https://www.reddit.com/u/yusuef

They write the same, only what that want ni23457. So he tries to force changenow to return him BTC without checking his identity. Is not this blackmail?

In addition, he bought advertising here on BCT. Guys, he does not warn us, he does it in order to spoil the reputation of the exchange. I advise everyone to thoroughly study this story. ni23457 had not just a mistake, sending someone else's documents. He did it consciously! He hides his identity. Why? Who is he afraid of? What he says = nonsense, he's another fraudster, laundering money.

Further Medium. Here are 4 people who write the same thing:

https://medium.com/@petitefemmeforte — petite nana
https://medium.com/@HallerManjbrian — stephen haller
https://medium.com/@paulmcglynn25 — Paul McGlynn
https://medium.com/@mananaduboi Manon Dubois

On BCT:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1246196 - bitcoinewman
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2374957 - Norinma
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2352582 - veronicasmithen03
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2376982 - isintel
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1246188 - Bazinga442

All of them blame ChangeNOW. Nothing else.

P.S. I once again claim that I am an outsider who has been jast following this story from the beginning. I believed ni23457, but then, when I saw his dirty attempts at blackmail, this man provoked evil in me. I decided to follow him, for his actions. I learned that he is from Russia. In that case, if he claims that it is illegal in this country, how could he buy BTC for cash? Let him tell us.
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September 04, 2018, 02:52:16 PM
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I was attracted by your advertisement. that place usually shows various ICO-profit advertisements. You really have a good idea.
Let me see your unfortunate experience.But I am very surprised, why don't you provide your KYC? 100BCH This is a very large amount, even if you are adventurous to provide your real kyc.
I'm sorry but I can't provide KYC for people who do not have the right to demand any documents, as they are engaged in illegal activities in their country. They themselves know that they are criminals and that is why they fled from their office and changed their founders. Please read my topic carefully.


When you decide to put 100 BCH on the site, it means that you have put a massive trust on it.
If I were you, I will think twice before try to deposit or at least I can find their office in your place or your country.

Hope you will got your money back,amen.
As it was said above, 100  BCH was only the first small part. Also I confused them with Changelly.



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September 04, 2018, 02:59:35 PM
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"as they are engaged in illegal activities in their country"

This is a lie. Yet another lie from you.

Bitcoin is NOT illegal in Russia. I know this because I've discussed this question with lots of lawyers and as a result I'm paying taxes from my bitcoins in Russia now =)
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September 04, 2018, 03:30:22 PM
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What a nonsense I read! Man, what are you trying to do, explain to us. This forum is not the place where you can blackmail those who caught you. Again:

1. You confused Changelly and ChangeNOW. Are you blind?
2. You sent someone else's documents. Why?
3. "I'm sorry I can not provide KYC" Why? Are you the first who must undergo this procedure?
4. You call them criminals because they caught you, discovering "a picture from Google". WTF!
5. "100 BCH was only the first small part" Show us the transaction.

Do you have any other facts?
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this is why AML/KYC procedures should be implemented in crypto



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What a nonsense I read! Man, what are you trying to do, explain to us. This forum is not the place where you can blackmail those who caught you. Again:

1. You confused Changelly and ChangeNOW. Are you blind?
2. You sent someone else's documents. Why?
3. "I'm sorry I can not provide KYC" Why? Are you the first who must undergo this procedure?
4. You call them criminals because they caught you, discovering "a picture from Google". WTF!
5. "100 BCH was only the first small part" Show us the transaction.

Do you have any other facts?
Forget it, he has his reasons, don't have to go into it.
If he is willing to provide KYC, he has already done that, because for most people, even if it is for 1 BCH, will do it.
Therefore, I guess there are two possibilities. One possibility is that the identity of ni23457 is really special. He may not be a normal person.(Maybe a hacker?  Grin) It is not common to know that people who can take out 100BCH at will. Another possibility is this story is all his fictional.
From the perspective of sympathizing the weak, I am more willing to believe in the experience of Mr. ni23457.

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