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Author Topic: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins).  (Read 13032 times)
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August 16, 2018, 12:21:35 PM
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and more likely Zalaster  as he has a similar style of messages and he is from Russia like others and he also keeps silent in private messages.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2081838
Well, your paranoia has driven you to craziness. Now I'm is rascal. Are you out of your mind?  Huh I do not answer your personal messages because they are full of hatred, I do not go down to communicate with psychopaths.

Agree. He is crazy. He is spamming me with personal messages full of threats and bullshit Smiley
Internet is full of idiots...
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August 16, 2018, 01:26:36 PM
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you are an Arabic translator because it is rejected by the changenow team and you are angry to make news that is not true ... lol Grin

I have added your account to the list of scammers don't forget create another account and write another comment to mislead people  Roll Eyes  
my translation was not only rejected but there are many works of participants who were rejected for no reason by injustice, scam and theft without giving a fee like what happened to me and the manager of Telegram Group (Polina) told me (we have a big spreadsheet with rejected). I am not angry as you said I am happy because I knew they were a scam project and to alert people to them.



Dear cyber_pinoy,
we have already discussed this matter in our PMs. All our translations are proofread by outsourced native speakers. I have explained to you that our Arabic proofreader said that your translation was not acceptable. I have offered you a compliment for your work anyway and tried to negotiate with you for a full pay our translators get and that offer still stands, by the way. Again, we apologise that your translation was not accepted, but we reserve the right to reject any work offered to us, be it a bounty article or a translation job.

Am I not a native speaker? LOL Grin Everyone knows that you are a liar, and you look like the head of the snake a screenshots prove that, this proofreader who you gave me his email he told you that the translation is unacceptable without giving reasons for that he did not spell out the wrong words or anything and i have emailed him to discuss it and have not answered yet indicates your lie and i have worked with more than 20 projects and no one has said that to me because I work honestly and professionally but your team only enjoys lying and stealing innocent people, I refuse your offer I do not have the honor of getting the Failed tokens from your scam project, you tell people that you have rejected their works to escape the distribution of their tokens and steal the works of people for free and if you give them up, you will give them what you have not agreed upon from your poor tokens (NOW)










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August 21, 2018, 06:30:12 PM
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What is most feared by the cowardly Russian scammers? EXACTLY! - Russian police and FSB!

Do you think that the change of office and the absolute hiding of the new address is something extra? Oh... On August 15 these pathetic cowards changed all the founders of EVERCODE LAB ltd. (OOO ЭBEPКOД ЛAБ; the developer of ChangeNOW)

MORE INFO in the investigation topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4647308

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August 21, 2018, 09:02:43 PM
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should be punished by removing from this forum! please suggest some honest and trusted ex changers with low fee
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August 22, 2018, 05:20:01 PM
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FOR THE IDIOT:

(I see that he wrote something, but I do not see what, since he's on the ignore list. I'm sorry I just can not waste time reading the messages of a mentally ill person)

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August 22, 2018, 05:28:55 PM
Last edit: August 23, 2018, 11:18:43 AM by matej krkic
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Why do you post the info for yourself? Smiley

Btw, its so funny to see that you are such a dumb scammer: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/9942vv/i_want_to_buy_many_votes_i_will_pay_a_lot_i_have/
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August 27, 2018, 04:09:22 PM
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Many naive users of this forum are wondering why someone is afraid to disclose personal information to Russian persons who work illegally.

The fact is that many of you live in countries where the existence of such people(like the owners of ChangeNOW) is possible only in prison.

And here's the simplest example.

2 months ago I registered for communication with them a separate mailbox.
Only they and I know about this mailbox.

By the way, the representatives of the exchanger ignore all my letters for more than a month.

And the last few days a man from an unfamiliar address wrote me letters. He seems to be trying to tell me that he knows some personal information about me. That is, he tries to frighten me with something.

I doubt that any European or American company would have such a thing. But in Russia everything is possible.

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August 27, 2018, 04:29:44 PM
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This exchange has done everything correct - they caught a scammer with stolen money (ni23457) and asked him to pass AML/KYC procedure. He failed by sending fake documents two times =)
And as we can see changenow is still open for a dialogue with this scammer but he only threats the team and spreads lies in the internet.

I think soon scammer ni23457 will start publishing fake info how changenow have sent hundreds of killers to his house. Lol such a dumb.
The only truth here is that NOBODY REALLY BELIEVES IN YOUR LIES except your shills!
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August 27, 2018, 04:30:59 PM
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You have paranoia, my friend! You are too keen on your person. I think you need to see a doctor. Urgently!
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August 27, 2018, 04:39:53 PM
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Hah, nobody can help him. I think he became paranoiac and crazy after stealing crypto. If the real owner of interpol finds him (I'm sure they will) he'll spend the rest of life in prison.
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August 27, 2018, 04:44:29 PM
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Hah, nobody can help him. I think he became paranoiac and crazy after stealing crypto. If the real owner of interpol finds him (I'm sure they will) he'll spend the rest of life in prison.
I agree, he is clearly hiding something. I think I will not be mistaken if I assume that he stole these BTCs, and now he is flushed with anger.
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August 28, 2018, 07:53:54 AM
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FOR THE IDIOT:

(I see that he wrote something, but I do not see what, since he's on the ignore list. I'm sorry I just can not waste time reading the messages of a mentally ill person)

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August 28, 2018, 08:18:04 AM
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ni23457, I think it's time to tell a little about you. So, as it became known, you started to engage in speculation of the members of this forum. Here's some information to think about. ni23457 published a message on Reddit, where he offered money for the dissemination of information he liked, in other words, he decided to buy trolls. «I want to BUY MANY VOTES! I will pay a lot. I have a lot of money!». Wrote a ni23457 right here http://archive.fo/iXMQm Therefore, you can not trust the words of this person, he is a fraudster, perhaps someone bought him for provocations.
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August 28, 2018, 08:39:30 AM
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ni23457, I think it's time to tell a little about you. So, as it became known, you started to engage in speculation of the members of this forum. Here's some information to think about. ni23457 published a message on Reddit, where he offered money for the dissemination of information he liked, in other words, he decided to buy trolls. «I want to BUY MANY VOTES! I will pay a lot. I have a lot of money!». Wrote a ni23457 right here http://archive.fo/iXMQm Therefore, you can not trust the words of this person, he is a fraudster, perhaps someone bought him for provocations.

One more fake. Just look at their posts in my topics. They are all in the same style. Everyone accuses me of having stolen money from someone and everyone from Russia. I'm sure this is one person

matej krkic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=307379
crazy_elky https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1776263
Zalaster https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2081838
dewinsec https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2265157
Vizefog https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2361566


What are these black spots? You're not just an idiot. You're mentally retarded if you think that this shit can affect someone.
https://www.reddit.com/user/ni23457

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August 28, 2018, 09:41:27 AM
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OMFG, you should buy some pills from paranoia...

How about that:

You told that I'm in ignore list....Yet another lie according to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4969271.msg44816892#msg44816892 (where you quote me)

Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Reppit/comments/92sdhx/self_unonpoliticalninjutsu_confirmed_trades/ - here you bought:

https://www.reddit.com/user/andyrgreig
https://www.reddit.com/user/spagrspagr
https://www.reddit.com/user/NekoMisa
https://www.reddit.com/user/radakito

Bitcointalk (shills):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1246188
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1246196
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2352582 - is it the same Veronika you used for your payed posts in media?


Check their last messages (don't worry I've made screenshots)

Also some more facts:



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August 29, 2018, 10:50:00 AM
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Hello! We have just noticed that you have left negative trust feedback in our Trust ratings section.

We love the crypto community a lot and think that everyone in it should join forces to fight scammers. Alas, all companies working on the cryptomarket sooner or later run into scammers sometimes. Unfortunately, it is our turn now. The customer who sent us fake documents twice (ni23457) is now on a crusade to make our work as difficult as possible.
He's well aware that he's been caught forging documents and that his case is being investigated and now is trying his hardest to soil our reputation with the help of an army of paid shills, bots and fake reviews.
We feel really sorry for our customers and followers who have to trample through tons of libel produced by this person.
Nevertheless, we, being sure that we're in the right here, are determined to continue our investigation with regards to this person and are preparing an official plea to the legal authorities. We will keep anyone in the community who is interested updated with regards to the situation.

You can see more of our official position in the thread you've linked to as reference.

Considering all this, could you please remove the negative feedback?

I received this message from Changenow and in the spirit of fairness, I figured I'd post my reply here instead.

Nevertheless, we, being sure we're in the RIGHT here

What are you talking about? What makes you right in this case? You call the OP a scammer, but you haven't provided a single shred of evidence to back that up, other than he sent you forged documents? I see kids in the US using fake IDs everyday, does that make them scammers. How exactly has he scammed you?

On the other hand, you are the ones holding over $70k of the OP's funds, and here you are claiming he scammed you? Despite your best efforts, I think you, Changenow.io, are the ones scamming here. You have lost absolutely nothing, He stands to lose 100 BCH, I don't understand your logic.

You are not a bank, or Interpol. You are just a few people from Russia, and yet, you have been illegally holding the users funds for over 2 months? What rights do you have to hold the funds? Kindly explain. Were you compelled to by the courts or the police?

I will remove my feedback when, you either pay him back or report this matter to the relevant authorities, and hand over to them the 100 BCH.

Regards.
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August 29, 2018, 08:16:39 PM
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Crypto is really an harsh environment Sad

I just read the whole topic with interest, my personal conclusion is that that exchanger is acting in a really unprofessional way mocking the user, but that they could be not scammers, but just some people acting borderline with the law and scared to receive a money laundry accusation.

But if you were scared of such consequences you shouldn't have started an "anonymous" service at all guys... if not anonymous, your service is not competitive.

On the user part, he went on the wrong side when he gave a fake ID, and I really can't understand why a clearly computer literate person should fear a video call, IF he gave real documents the second time.

This is my suggestion:

-On the exchange side, stop mocking the user and just decide if you want to be an anonymous legally-borderline service or a fully legal service, I doubt that actually you are TOTALLY compliant to the law even if you do some kyc verification for biggest txs.

-On the user side, just resign to give them your real personal info or to lose your money, if you don't want/can't sue them in a legal way. You have at least 100 btc on the "original" address you don't want to post and I can understand you are scared to be robbed, but even if you fear a "russian's mafia" physical attack you seems to be enough smart to just cold store your money in a secure place, like a caveau in a bank. There are richer person to kidnap if you even fear something like that, and if you will be robbed/kidnapped the connection with the evil russians should be enough for a serious investigation. You are not an ideal victim.

You both seems to fear a police investigation, in my opinion the user fear taxes or some crime accusation, and the exchanger fear to be investigated for money laundry.

Next step could be using a dummy man paid to act as OP in the video (with a third ID of course), and/or the exchanger claiming OP to be using a dummy man....


Just make peace, men...
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August 30, 2018, 06:30:21 PM
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Hello! We're here with another update.
We are in the process of preparing a full-fledged legal claim that we are planning on submitting to the legal authorities. We will keep the community updated on that, if anyone's interested. We've carried out several legal audits and all the lawyers that audited us are ready to confirm that we are clean before the law. We aren't afraid of any legal checks and are completely ready to defend our case.

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Hello! We're here with another update.
We are in the process of preparing a full-fledged legal claim that we are planning on submitting to the legal authorities. We will keep the community updated on that, if anyone's interested. We've carried out several legal audits and all the lawyers that audited us are ready to confirm that we are clean before the law. We aren't afraid of any legal checks and are completely ready to defend our case.

Nice, this is good to know. At last we are getting somewhere. I am interested and have a few questions, if you don't mind.

1. Who regulates your activities?
2. Is it true that you abandoned your St Petersburg office? if true, then why?
3. Why did you change all your founders information? Your whitepaper was recently redacted. This raises a red flag, and leads to many questions. You must know that it seems suspicious?
4. Is there a connection between you and Evercodelab? If true, why are you trying hard to obfuscate that?

Hello! We're here with another update.
We are in the process of preparing a full-fledged legal claim that we are planning on submitting to the legal authorities.

5. What exactly are you accusing the user of? Document forging? Money laundering or are the coins stolen or ill-gotten from illegal activities? It would be nice if you clarify this, and maybe some of us would understand.


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August 31, 2018, 11:07:11 AM
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Hello! We're here with another update.
We are in the process of preparing a full-fledged legal claim that we are planning on submitting to the legal authorities. We will keep the community updated on that, if anyone's interested. We've carried out several legal audits and all the lawyers that audited us are ready to confirm that we are clean before the law. We aren't afraid of any legal checks and are completely ready to defend our case.

Nice, this is good to know. At last we are getting somewhere. I am interested and have a few questions, if you don't mind.

1. Who regulates your activities?
2. Is it true that you abandoned your St Petersburg office? if true, then why?
3. Why did you change all your founders information? Your whitepaper was recently redacted. This raises a red flag, and leads to many questions. You must know that it seems suspicious?
4. Is there a connection between you and Evercodelab? If true, why are you trying hard to obfuscate that?

Hello! We're here with another update.
We are in the process of preparing a full-fledged legal claim that we are planning on submitting to the legal authorities.

5. What exactly are you accusing the user of? Document forging? Money laundering or are the coins stolen or ill-gotten from illegal activities? It would be nice if you clarify this, and maybe some of us would understand.




We obey the laws and regulations of Belize, as well as international PML Act and PMLFT regulations. We also cooperate with Interpol and Europol when it comes to financial crime, and there have been cases when we had official inquiries from those organisations.

ChangeNOW has never left its office. The office has never been located where ni23457 insists it has.

Companies change their whitepapers all the time, the information about the founders is always subject to change - that's how businesses are maintained. Still, there haven't been any changes in ChangeNOW's key staff. We aren't making a crowdsale and our key investors are acquainted with the key staff very well.

Evercode Lab is one of ChangeNOW's contractors. We don't see any reasons to hide it.

We aren't accusing anyone of anything. We simply don't have any right to do so as a business. However, we are lawfully obliged to check all of our suspicious clients and submit info about them to the regulatory authorities.

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