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September 07, 2018, 04:26:18 PM
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Fairness is more important to me.
I saw a lot of scoundrels who talked about justice.

«They write what they want» COPYPAST = FUNNY

«Blackmail about the return of own funds» — Man, now I will say that these are my funds, but how can I prove it? Where is your wallet, transaction ... There's nothing.. ZERO Just words.
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September 07, 2018, 04:27:11 PM
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It's a pity that the user was robbed 100 BCH.

Personally I have used change now, however after reading this I no longer believe in using it again, since apparently "change now" I use what is called "selective scam"

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September 07, 2018, 04:37:55 PM
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It's a pity that the user was robbed 100 BCH.

Personally I have used change now, however after reading this I no longer believe in using it again, since apparently "change now" I use what is called "selective scam"

At least you were not robbed just like the OP was. Glad to hear you will stay away from scammers changenow. Please continue to spread the word about them.

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September 07, 2018, 04:43:51 PM
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It's a pity that the user was robbed 100 BCH.
Another ALT ... Dude, where have you been since April? Woke up and immediately wrote it? Very funny!  Grin

it is clear that you are part of the "change now" team .. bitcointalk users are not stupid.

since April? my previous connection was 3 days ago, however I do not comment anything.

I mention this publication and you two are like pigs, I do not understand. How does my comment affect you?
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September 07, 2018, 04:53:07 PM
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It's a pity that the user was robbed 100 BCH.

Personally I have used change now, however after reading this I no longer believe in using it again, since apparently "change now" I use what is called "selective scam"

At least you were not robbed just like the OP was. Glad to hear you will stay away from scammers changenow. Please continue to spread the word about them.

It's funny how you ignore my facts here  Grin

I'm sure everybody understands why
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September 07, 2018, 04:54:19 PM
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it is clear that you are part of the "change now" team
Well, another ALT accuses me. Man, I just do not agree with ni23457. I have no right to express my opinion? I see that he is campaigning to reduce the authority of changenow, I do not like it, because this person does not explain why he is hiding his identity, sends fake ID. Everything he says = words. He does not show a transaction, a wallet, nothing! How can we believe him?

ni23457 buys accounts here and at reddit, it's well known fact and nobody is surprized
I'm glad that I'm not alone in trying to prove that ni23457 is not completely honest with us.
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September 07, 2018, 04:57:55 PM
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You stupid frog.
OMG! All texts = copypast !!! One person gave one text to several people to spread it. You think we are stupid! What's the truth? There it is not written that ni23457 sent FAKE ID !! There's no this! WHY? This is the manipulation of consciousness, nothing more.

Obviously you are too dumb to see the big picture. Your brand is being burnt before your very eyes, and all you do is sit here twiddling your thumbs and posting shit for a few worthless tokens. Have you tried googling changenow.io lately? Please do that. These scam articles are now ranking on page 2 from where I am sitting. Another 1000 of these and nobody will deposit a single satoshi to you.

And I see you didnt answer my question. Let me try again.. IS PRIVCOIN A SCAM TOO FOR REFUSING KYC?

There.
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September 07, 2018, 05:19:07 PM
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It's funny how you ignore my facts here  Grin

I'm sure everybody understands why

I am not ignoring your facts at all, you raised good points about their T/Cs changing between February 2018 and March 2018 but they should have given the OP an option to have his funds returned or send his ID to continue with the trade.

What are your opinions about changenow scamming Privcoin? Do you think it is not a scam?

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September 07, 2018, 05:20:32 PM
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These scam articles are now ranking on page 2

What do you expect from me? Congratulations? Just don't forget to tell about fake ID. Ok.

And I see you didnt answer my question. Let me try again.. IS PRIVCOIN A SCAM TOO FOR REFUSING KYC?

I do not know anything about PRIVCOIN. I do not like ni23457 and his blackmail, buying trolls like you and the rest of the poor who are ready to sell their mother for 33 coins. It's clear?
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September 07, 2018, 05:24:12 PM
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These scam articles are now ranking on page 2

What do you expect from me? Congratulations? Just don't forget to tell about fake ID. Ok.

And I see you didnt answer my question. Let me try again.. IS PRIVCOIN A SCAM TOO FOR REFUSING KYC?

I do not know anything about PRIVCOIN. I do not like ni23457 and his blackmail, buying trolls like you and the rest of the poor who are ready to sell their mother for 33 coins. It's clear?


I expect you to shut it and get a life, if you cannot be objective. Unfortunately, my poor mama is long gone, so i missed the chance to buy her for 33 shit tokens, unlike your dumb ass. I am done schooling you.
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I do not know anything about PRIVCOIN. I do not like ni23457 and his blackmail, buying trolls like you and the rest of the poor who are ready to sell their mother for 33 coins. It's clear?

We read your views on ni23457, thank you for letting us know your opinion of him but what are your views on changenow who are also ready to sell their souls for a certain price by stealing customers coins?

As was mentioned in an earlier post, "What they did is selective scamming. Once the amount is high enough, they make up reasons not to return it."

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We read your views on ni23457, thank you for letting us know your opinion of him but what are your views on changenow who are also ready to sell their souls for a certain price by stealing customers coins?
You did not understand me. I do not justify changenow, I'm just trying to prove that this is a problem of 2 sides. As for me:
1. I always read the conditions carefully
2. I do not make big exchanges.
3. Several times I refused to pass KYC, the coins were returning, but I did not send fake ID.

That's what I'm talking about.
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We read your views on ni23457, thank you for letting us know your opinion of him but what are your views on changenow who are also ready to sell their souls for a certain price by stealing customers coins?
You did not understand me. I do not justify changenow, I'm just trying to prove that this is a problem of 2 sides. As for me:
1. I always read the conditions carefully
2. I do not make big exchanges.
3. Several times I refused to pass KYC, the coins were returning, but I did not send fake ID.

That's what I'm talking about.

Thank you for the post. You are right, there are two sides and the OP did send fake ID that for sure cannot be denied.

What cannot be accepted though is that changenow should offer the option of unconditional return of crypto to the same address they were received from when they ask for ID verification. They claim the system is automated which a computer algorithm selects which transactions to ask for ID then at that point of asking for ID they must offer a return of crypto as well. They forced the OP in to sending ID but he rightly and perfectly was within his rights to decline but when he realised changenow were scammers he sent fake ID which was from googleimages. Yes he sent the fake ID but only after these scammers left him with no choice. I would never send these exchanges my ID.

How can they force someone to send ID after a trade has been initiated when they never made it clear that they would ask for ID in the first place? I do not buy in to their Medium statement that an algorithm selects trades to ask for ID verification because I really believe it is selective scamming and changenow are scammers but let us say for a moment their algorithm story is true, what right do they have to keep the crypto? They say it is in a cold wallet and they will give information to various law officers and agencies but even if they did they are holding the crypto.

The OP made a big mistake by making a big trade in one transaction rather than several small ones, he must have learned from that error and so have we all. It seems clear they did not offer him a refund, they scammed him because they wanted his coins.


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September 07, 2018, 05:57:57 PM
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> What are your opinions about changenow scamming Privcoin? Do you think it is not a scam?

I do not have enough information on that case. But I know that now lots of stolen from bithumb and nicehash coins are being transacted all over the crypto services. And most of the crypto services are informed about that. I'm not sure that privcoin incident is related to that it's just my guess based on the fact that mixers are often used to launder coins.

And the biggest problem for crypto services here is the fact they can not disclose the real reason of blocking such coins cos they were "kindly asked" by interpol

>How can they force someone to send ID after a trade has been initiated when they never made it clear that they would ask for ID in the first place?

Agree. Transparency is the key. Personally I think that changenow have made a mistake of not clearly specifying the conditions of AML/KYC procedure.

> they scammed him because they wanted his coins.

I don't think that 70k usd is such a big amount for them Grin
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September 07, 2018, 06:06:28 PM
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Guy,guys take time off its friday
Time to party Smiley)
Time exchange coins to cash and spend it...strip clubs bars pubs and nightclubs lets get drunk and get wasted.
Monday will meet again and discuss again Cheesy
Now guys take time off and relax
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September 07, 2018, 06:23:30 PM
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Just don't forget to tell about fake ID. Ok.
I never sent fake IDs. I sent the JPG files by email. This is not a document in any country.

And of course no one will ever forget about this

As I said earlier this was my first letter


And this was my second letter



and I sent it to this "company"
https://postimg.cc/image/i8a8z5nj5/
https://postimg.cc/image/odwzy37rl/
https://postimg.cc/image/b52djluz5/
https://postimg.cc/image/6j69bhmdd/
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OMG another lie from ni23457

This is the evidence of the second attempt of the document forgery:

Yes, I made a mistake that at the very beginning I sent a picture with someone's passport from google.images (but I sent the picture just to the fameless anonymous guys with no real address, company name or even phone number: they can be anyone, even gangsters). But then I still sent the real documents and now I wait 10 days from the moment of sending documents, and they say that they are conducting an investigation.

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OMG another lie from ni23457

This is the evidence of the second attempt of the document forgery:

Yes, I made a mistake that at the very beginning I sent a picture with someone's passport from google.images (but I sent the picture just to the fameless anonymous guys with no real address, company name or even phone number: they can be anyone, even gangsters). But then I still sent the real documents and now I wait 10 days from the moment of sending documents, and they say that they are conducting an investigation.




Exactly! Are you arguing with the fact that this person is real? I simply can't upload JPG file with passport photo of this guy here   Sad


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Next time please mind your previous "stories" when preparing the next lie  Wink
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> What are your opinions about changenow scamming Privcoin? Do you think it is not a scam?

I do not have enough information on that case. But I know that now lots of stolen from bithumb and nicehash coins are being transacted all over the crypto services. And most of the crypto services are informed about that. I'm not sure that privcoin incident is related to that it's just my guess based on the fact that mixers are often used to launder coins.

And the biggest problem for crypto services here is the fact they can not disclose the real reason of blocking such coins cos they were "kindly asked" by interpol

>How can they force someone to send ID after a trade has been initiated when they never made it clear that they would ask for ID in the first place?

Agree. Transparency is the key. Personally I think that changenow have made a mistake of not clearly specifying the conditions of AML/KYC procedure.

> they scammed him because they wanted his coins.

I don't think that 70k usd is such a big amount for them Grin

There is no proof Interpol or anybody else asked changenow for blocking and seizing control of crypto. The evidence points to selective scamming but giving them the benefit of the massive doubt they need to clarify the whole situation with the AML/KYC and the threshold that makes it mandatory to send ID to them.

They have made themselves look very bad in this whole situation.

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