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Metal alloy but yeah feels like aluminium and is pretty solid.
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May 06, 2014, 06:04:37 PM |
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I love it  Thanks Man We got some big things coming in the BlackCast
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May 06, 2014, 06:04:44 PM |
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Iconic, maybe its time to take a break.
I don't like personal defamation, but you need time to hardfork your ego a bit.
When so much people disagree with you, its very likely that you're not right.
Remember, I said to you once on IRC you shouldn't mind the trolls attacking you and your project, cause enemies comes with the success too.
Now it feels like you've become an enemy to BC, at least you're actions are the WORST PR we can get now.
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May 06, 2014, 06:06:22 PM |
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Thank you for that. This will help Blackcoin. The foundation is set to have several positions.. Chairman, Treasurer, Secretary.. And "auditing" positions to make sure all goes well.
The first period these positions will be filled by people with enough community trust- we're not official on any details yet. The foundation will have statutes and members. If board members breach statutes the members will be able to 51% attack the board).
After the first term, new board members will be brought to the front and there will be a general assembly of some sorts, is my take.
Don't take my word on the information in this post, much has to be thought out yet. ^
Foundation is basically a face for the community, led by trusted members, chosen yearly.. Don't permacite me on this though. 
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May 06, 2014, 06:06:39 PM |
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Did you read what I wrote? That "Sell Mint" campaign would not have made the price sky rocket.
IconicExpert, You haven't a clue what you are talking about. Or you are a manipulative scamster. Time will tell one way or the other. I admit, I did rather like your outside-the-box "guerilla" marketing style but my faith in you started to disappear when you started to try to split the community. Of course the final straw is your accusation of me being part of some "pump/dump" scam and then refuse to answer my questions or show anyone any evidence at all. You my dear fellow are a liability to this coin and I hope this marks the beginning of the end of your involvement with BlackCoin.ColinFX / MrCoins / @CryptoDabbler He just refuses to answer his accusations against me. I give up. IconicExpert, in my eyes you are history and i'll have nothing to do with any other campaigns that you put your name to.
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rat4 (OP)
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The Group Behind The Daily Dumping veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13, Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique
What I am about to write will without a doubt cause a rift within our community , but I feel this is something I must do to protect the investment of innocent people who believe in BlackCoin. I ask everyone whether you support me or not, to carefully read and analyze my words without prejudice.
When I first started to participate in this community I was enthusiastic to be part of a community that is inspiring and full with enthusiasm. If you look at my earlier posts from March and early April and compare them to my most recent posts you can clearly see a stark difference. Some people have been wondering if my "ego" has gotten out of control, or if something else is at play.
For a few weeks I have known about a coordinated effort to suppress the price of BC. I have hinted numerous times about this suppression, but I did not make it officially public because of the ramifications it would have on this community. I thought with the help of others I could stop or at the very least greatly diminish this suppression without letting the general public know, unfortunately we were unsuccessful.
veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13, Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique and a few others are all responsible for manipulating the price of BlackCoin for several weeks.
Their group owns roughly 10% of the total supply of BlackCoins. Apparently this is not enough for them and they want more. They decided since they cannot mine BC anymore they would use their supply of coins to keep the price down and buy coins from people cashing out. With the volume we previously had and other factors, this would have been a very slow process. So they came up with the idea of the multi-pool. They would trick everyone into thinking the multi-pool would help stabilize the price of BC, but instead they were using the multi-pool to obtain significant amounts of BC while using their supply to keep the price down. They were able to "dump" their coins, and use the multi-pool to buy more without a loss. Why do you think so much focus is on the multi-pool? The multi-pool is the key to their plan working, and the plan worked flawlessly until I came into the picture.
I had no clue at the time any of this was occurring when I started promoting BC. If you look at my early posts before anyone really "knew" me, there were early attempts to stop me from promoting BC, why? Why would anyone want to stop me from promoting BC? Because any extra buy pressure would interfere with what they are currently doing.
I quickly became a thorn in their side because any extra attention I brought to BC interfered with their sell walls and that was a problem for them. So at every step they have been there to stop me from promoting BC. I started getting suspicious after the second press release but I assumed it was just "jealousy". I didn't become aware of this plan until after I announced the BlackCoin card. I was contacted by someone in their inner circle who was "pissed" about some issue they had, so he "snitched". He gave me just enough information to start putting everything together. My attitude changed from that day because I realized we could have been trading well above the price at the time if it wasn't for them.
So I went on the offensive and started making announcements everyday to keep the buy pressure up. I formed my own group and combined we have over 6 million BC. I had to make sure there was a counter "force" to what they were doing. Our attempts to suck up their BC with minor pumps failed multiple times. So I backed the public pump which I felt would finally stop them. However, I did not anticipate the outrage from the community and I back away because I knew one day I might have to make this announcement and my credibility would need to remain intact.
Around that time I was contacted again by another smaller group that also figured out what was occurring. Their plan was to attack the multi-pool and slow them down. I did not condone this tactic because of the legal ramifications, so I declined to take part in it. However, I did use that opportunity to push news to attempt to break their walls, unfortunately I failed.
I finally realized the only way I could stop them if I organized an event so huge even their sell walls would not be able to hold up. At this time I already knew Seopkip was loosely involved but I had to give the impression I was not aware of anything, so I presented the idea to him knowing they would find some way to put it on hold. At first their was talks of funding it so I would not go to the community, but I knew that was BS. Their plan was to keep me waiting while they came up with a plan to take away from the Wall Street event. I knew my time was running out so I announced the Wall Street event before they could kill it.
What did they do? They sent Gritt to post that comment on the article to take away some steam. Then they started to slowly organize a campaign against me to finally kill my efforts. When the CoinDesk article went live on Friday they decided to announce the PR firm campaign. That night it wasn't the CoinDesk article that made the price go up, it was them. I knew they were letting the price go up to make it seem their PR firm announcement was causing "excitement". So I took credit for the price increase to take away some of the "effectiveness" of their plan. That really pissed them off because they wanted to convince the community the PR idea was having a positive effect.
The PR firm is complete bullsh!t. They created the PR firm stunt to take donations away from Wall Street. They knew the community would want to support both ideas and the funds will be split. They also knew I would ask questions, and that would be their signal to attack me. They made it seem I was "jealous" and wanted "attention". Their plan is to slow the news down, and they will tell everyone the PR firm is working on ideas and it will take time to see results. This is just a stall tactic while they continue to accumulate cheap BC.
They noticed I was still getting donations so Colinfx came up with his "match your donation" campaign to take away any remaining attention from Wall Street. Haven't you noticed how much they have posting and spamming lately? Notice how they want everyone to go to Reddit and BlackCoinTalk? If you look before Friday they rarely posted in this forum. It is their way to hijack the "message".
Now please ask yourself these questions:
Why didn't they support the Wall Street event and try to kill it? Why didn't they spam the CoinDesk article and get the news out? Why haven't they sent out any press releases since the last release the community sent? Why has their focus always been on the multi-pool? Why did they announce their PR firm project around the same time as the CoinDesk news? Why is Colinfx so willing to match donations? Why didn't they make a big deal out of being added to Vault Of Statoshi? Just look at all their promotional efforts, it revolves around the multi-pool.
Now you can believe me or you can think this is some lame attempt at a coup to take over, but please start asking yourself who has been dumping steadily all these weeks and why?
I felt this was my last option because after today they would be unstoppable. I was faced with a hard decision to make. If I did not say anything people will continue to be ripped off. If I do say something my revelation might cause investors to lose faith in the coin. So I did not make this decision without giving it a lot of thought and time.
This is not a signal to start dumping coins! Do not start dumping your coins! rat4 and maarx are not directly involved in this plot. rat4 is only interested in making BC awesome, and maarx didn't fully understand what was going on behind the scenes.
Now that everyone knows what is going on behind the scenes we can be proactive at putting an end to this fraud, there is no reason to dump. We know exactly who is behind the sell pressure and there are ways to stop it. I have a group of members who are active in this community and they are ready to hit the ground running. I promise everyone that if you follow the plan I am about to layout we will finally skyrocketing by the end of Summer.
1. rat4 denounces the group and pledges to support the community in whatever decision is made. 2. Soepkip and Gritt resigns from the official dev team. 3. Members of this community stop mining on the multi-pool immediately. 4. veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13, Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique all agree to not dump further until 60 days from now. They provide us with their public addresses so we can monitor them. 5. The group refunds all the donations received for the PR firm bullsh!t 6. The community picks someone to be the spokesperson for the dev team. (It cannot be me because I hold too much BC). It has to be someone that does not have a substantial amount of BC, but have the experience to help rat4.
Let me make it clear there is no need to dump. There is demand for the coin and the fact they have been applying sell pressure proves it. If we put a stop to them we will be back on track to being the #1 coin. Throughout the day people will come forward to offer their services and help, we can build a stronger team. The fact I did not dump my coins should give you comfort that I still believe in BC. All we have to do is get rid of the rotten few that have been suppressing our growth and we will succeed.
 Have fun posting FUD...I am leaving for a few hours because this is pointless like this past weekend. I will leave it to the smart people to figure out who is telling the truth and who is lying. IconicExpert, could you take a break for a week and spend it away from internet? We all need rest sometimes.
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May 06, 2014, 06:07:25 PM |
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CONFESSION:
There has been much discord here regarding possible market manipulation. Sadly, I must confess it is me who has been manipulating the market. I have been trading my BC trying to acquire more. I had no idea the discord I would be causing. Since I am the reason the price is low I will stop. Please be assured that the price will skyrocket now. If it would not be too much trouble can we have one more dip so I can acquire more coins? If not please consider donating to me since I no longer will be able to manipulate the market... Much Thanks! Judge Neil / Judge Crypto PS. The good news is that in ANY case the price is looking to skyrocket!  DONTE: B7geP8uXFxgofumA5M1kJwKtaNGJmM1cz7 Thank you for being honest.
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May 06, 2014, 06:08:56 PM |
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IconicExpert, could you take a break for a week and spend it away from internet? We all need rest sometimes.
Thanks for BLACKCOIN btw rat4 =D
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May 06, 2014, 06:11:05 PM |
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I was going to buy into DRK today but bought black instead  With BlackCoin, any news is good news. 
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May 06, 2014, 06:11:15 PM |
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IconicExpert, could you take a break for a week and spend it away from internet? We all need rest sometimes.
Thanks for BLACKCOIN btw rat4 =D + (I don't even know if infinity is enough) Good Job!
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May 06, 2014, 06:12:12 PM |
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Prove it. It's no point accusing anyone with a new account. A lot of people lurk, too.
Maarx...you have yet to answer me directly. Were you on IRC with me when the group asked me to lie to the community and I said no? Did the group conspire to manipulate BC? Am I a liar? http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24vbsz/iama_maarx_project_manager_community_manager_part/chb1su4Dear Maarx, I appreciate all your work and intention to act openly now. Situation is imho grave and in order to believe in the BC community once again I need to ask some people some maybe uncomfortable questions, that would allow me to create overall picture and regain confidence. Question(s) for you: Were you on IRC with IconicExpert when the group asked him lie to the community and he said no? Did the group conspire to manipulate BC? Is IconicExpert a liar? It would be also awesome if you would confirm your identity (so we know we are really asking real maarx and not a fake account). I'm sure you would find the way using BTC or BC chains, for example by creating tiny transaction from one account of yours (reported to the community before) to another account. This would substantially increase trust in this thread and you. Thank you! IconicExpert has not lied about that. A few group members have asked him to promote a "Meet Black" campaign. This campaign would give anyone, who would sell their bags of Mintcoin, and buy Blackcoin, get 5% extra cash. IE did not take this on, since he did not see it as a good promotion. The lie would have been "tell the mint community that large mint holders have contacted you". No mint people contacted him and this, therefore, would have been a lie. It would have been a lie against the "mint community" The promotion went on nevertheless, just not by IE, and not on mintcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6419037#msg6419037Note that nobody lied here, it was a push to promote this campaign, which flopped. zlyMartin can you explain how I would confirm my identity? Give me your address and I will send you a lambo. (my address: BA5XJv8SoiryRUZi2QsvoKHHABPqgssukg) Thank you for being honest, I sincerely appreciate that. As I stated in my first post maarx was not involved and I sincerely believe he does not know. When he says "the group is not suppressing the price"..he is being honest because he is not involved and was not privy to that information.
Maarx has proven this group has no problem asking others to deceive people to get what they want. What makes you think the first time was with me? I had a chance to conspire with this group and I said no because of integrity. It would have been a lie and a didn't do it. So why the hell would I put myself on the line in a public forum and lie about this? Why would I lie on innocent people. morituri13 claimed that Maarx was one of the people who personally attacked me. So wouldn't make sense for me to accuse Maarx too if I was lying? But I didn't because he is innocent and I would be lying on him if I did. What is my end game for lying? What do I gain? I most certainly do not want the price to go down...
I have another question for Maarx... all the time you and I have interacted....have I ever did or "say" anything to make you feel I am a lair?Hi. Morituri13 / Dognip did not attack me personally or through you. He suggested that perhaps I "attacked" you, or got "into a fuss" with you or "argumented against you". What concerns the price- it is my honest belief that some larger investors are trying to increase their position. We will/ might see a breakout like before. As to reply to the question if I feel you are a liar. No, I do not believe you are a liar. What you stated on this group of people however, is not backed by anything and strikes me as a false accusation. I would like to see something backing your claim. And I would like your 6m group to come forward. We have to sort this out. Also this group that initiated the DDoS strikes me as a harmful group towards Blackcoin. Once again thank you for your honesty. The larger investors is the names I listed. When I get the the okay from the person who provided me with the info and screenshots I will make it public since they will be instantly exposed. Also, it is up to the 6M group to come forward if they choose to reveal themselves. There are many people who can verify they contact me in PM and I never throw anyone under the bus. In this case too many people are getting burned and I had enough.
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May 06, 2014, 06:12:23 PM |
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Now let me ask you a question...if a person has a history of telling the truth, why would that person fuck up his reputation for a "crazy story"?
Yeah. Just like when you flat out lied in big bold letters saying how a big price drop was caused by a Mintpal. You don't even know how to properly stretch the truth. I never said they don't pump. They pump all the time and then dump again. I said they don't want the price to skyrocket from major news. That "Sell Mint" campaign would not have made the price sky rocket. You may be a "businessman" but you are certainly not a market trader and/or market analyst. Time and time again you have proven to me that you have no clue how the market is driven by (mathematical) technicals in the short term, and by news in the long term. The sell Mint campaign wouldn't have made the price rocket, much like the announcement of your WS campaign didn't do anything to BC's price - it still kept trending down. It was around the time of the PR news that the market technicals began showing reversal. That news just happen to come a good time. And we had a nice like rise after the news until you came along. But I won't blame you on that one, because unlike you, I've already been expecting some sideways movement regardless of news. You on the other hand would just simply blame everyone else around you (as you always have been) for (your) undesirable market movement. Did you read what I wrote? That "Sell Mint" campaign would not have made the price sky rocket.Did you read what I wrote? Yes I did...and I never claimed to be a market analyst. But what does this has to do with them manipulating the price?
One key point EVERYONE is overlooking. Maarx already verified the group privately pumped the price...so lets assume I am completely lying about everything else. Why was it okay for the group to pump the price privately, but when I announced the public pump they were so against it? At least with the public pump everyone would know before hand. When they did their pump it was INSIDE INFORMATION and lots of people got burned. I could have just told the community about that pump and that would be damaging enough...so why go through the trouble of making up a story when I already had something damaging?Not sure if this was a question, but this group has not increased their holdings in doing so. As I stated, they got burned hard. Also, not sure if this was a question either, but this group (actually about 2 or 3 guys) was separate from the "official foundation" group, which is not really a group at all. Also for them to pump over 90k BC, that would have costed ~8k+ BTC. This group does not have 8k+ BTC  maybe some new investors entering the game do. Still doing the I am a maarx thing. Anyone else is a maarx? Ask me anything! http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24vbsz/iama_maarx_project_manager_community_manager_part/
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May 06, 2014, 06:13:28 PM |
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IconicExpert, could you take a break for a week and spend it away from internet? We all need rest sometimes.
The creator and dev has spoken! Now lets all focus on the COIN ... and not people's egos! GoBlackCoin!
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May 06, 2014, 06:14:59 PM |
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Prove it. It's no point accusing anyone with a new account. A lot of people lurk, too.
Maarx...you have yet to answer me directly. Were you on IRC with me when the group asked me to lie to the community and I said no? Did the group conspire to manipulate BC? Am I a liar? http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24vbsz/iama_maarx_project_manager_community_manager_part/chb1su4Dear Maarx, I appreciate all your work and intention to act openly now. Situation is imho grave and in order to believe in the BC community once again I need to ask some people some maybe uncomfortable questions, that would allow me to create overall picture and regain confidence. Question(s) for you: Were you on IRC with IconicExpert when the group asked him lie to the community and he said no? Did the group conspire to manipulate BC? Is IconicExpert a liar? It would be also awesome if you would confirm your identity (so we know we are really asking real maarx and not a fake account). I'm sure you would find the way using BTC or BC chains, for example by creating tiny transaction from one account of yours (reported to the community before) to another account. This would substantially increase trust in this thread and you. Thank you! IconicExpert has not lied about that. A few group members have asked him to promote a "Meet Black" campaign. This campaign would give anyone, who would sell their bags of Mintcoin, and buy Blackcoin, get 5% extra cash. IE did not take this on, since he did not see it as a good promotion. The lie would have been "tell the mint community that large mint holders have contacted you". No mint people contacted him and this, therefore, would have been a lie. It would have been a lie against the "mint community" The promotion went on nevertheless, just not by IE, and not on mintcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6419037#msg6419037Note that nobody lied here, it was a push to promote this campaign, which flopped. zlyMartin can you explain how I would confirm my identity? Give me your address and I will send you a lambo. (my address: BA5XJv8SoiryRUZi2QsvoKHHABPqgssukg) Thank you for being honest, I sincerely appreciate that. As I stated in my first post maarx was not involved and I sincerely believe he does not know. When he says "the group is not suppressing the price"..he is being honest because he is not involved and was not privy to that information.
Maarx has proven this group has no problem asking others to deceive people to get what they want. What makes you think the first time was with me? I had a chance to conspire with this group and I said no because of integrity. It would have been a lie and a didn't do it. So why the hell would I put myself on the line in a public forum and lie about this? Why would I lie on innocent people. morituri13 claimed that Maarx was one of the people who personally attacked me. So wouldn't make sense for me to accuse Maarx too if I was lying? But I didn't because he is innocent and I would be lying on him if I did. What is my end game for lying? What do I gain? I most certainly do not want the price to go down...
I have another question for Maarx... all the time you and I have interacted....have I ever did or "say" anything to make you feel I am a lair?Hi. Morituri13 / Dognip did not attack me personally or through you. He suggested that perhaps I "attacked" you, or got "into a fuss" with you or "argumented against you". What concerns the price- it is my honest belief that some larger investors are trying to increase their position. We will/ might see a breakout like before. As to reply to the question if I feel you are a liar. No, I do not believe you are a liar. What you stated on this group of people however, is not backed by anything and strikes me as a false accusation. I would like to see something backing your claim. And I would like your 6m group to come forward. We have to sort this out. Also this group that initiated the DDoS strikes me as a harmful group towards Blackcoin. Once again thank you for your honesty. The larger investors is the names I listed. When I get the the okay from the person who provided me with the info and screenshots I will make it public since they will be instantly exposed. Also, it is up to the 6M group to come forward if they choose to reveal themselves. There are many people who can verify they contact me in PM and I never throw anyone under the bus. In this case too many people are getting burned and I had enough. I will publically state that they can contact me. I believe it is good if we get all the long- term Blackcoin holders with significant amounts on the same level/ line. I think the internal war must stop. There is a lot of misinformation in/ out here, but I look forward to any Proof of Accusation.
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May 06, 2014, 06:15:38 PM |
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CONFESSION:
There has been much discord here regarding possible market manipulation. Sadly, I must confess it is me who has been manipulating the market. I have been trading my BC trying to acquire more. I had no idea the discord I would be causing. Since I am the reason the price is low I will stop. Please be assured that the price will skyrocket now. If it would not be too much trouble can we have one more dip so I can acquire more coins? If not please consider donating to me since I no longer will be able to manipulate the market... Much Thanks! Judge Neil / Judge Crypto PS. The good news is that in ANY case the price is looking to skyrocket!  DONTE: B7geP8uXFxgofumA5M1kJwKtaNGJmM1cz7 Thank you for being honest.  ... This is sarcasm. But yes, there are probably bigger holders entering the game. It is in their interest to collect as many coins as they can while the price is 30k. If they can game it to be under 40k, they would.
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May 06, 2014, 06:16:06 PM |
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Now people have the same info I have...if they want to continue letting these people rip them off after reading what I wrote, then that is their decision.
So basically.. nothing then? No chatlogs, no screenshots, no insider, no nothing as you claimed to possess. What about all the people you called out by name, trying to ruin their reputations? Will you issue a public apology to them for wrongfully accusing them?
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May 06, 2014, 06:16:16 PM |
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Metal alloy but yeah feels like aluminium and is pretty solid. Sent you a pm.
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May 06, 2014, 06:16:48 PM |
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Prove it. It's no point accusing anyone with a new account. A lot of people lurk, too.
Maarx...you have yet to answer me directly. Were you on IRC with me when the group asked me to lie to the community and I said no? Did the group conspire to manipulate BC? Am I a liar? http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24vbsz/iama_maarx_project_manager_community_manager_part/chb1su4Dear Maarx, I appreciate all your work and intention to act openly now. Situation is imho grave and in order to believe in the BC community once again I need to ask some people some maybe uncomfortable questions, that would allow me to create overall picture and regain confidence. Question(s) for you: Were you on IRC with IconicExpert when the group asked him lie to the community and he said no? Did the group conspire to manipulate BC? Is IconicExpert a liar? It would be also awesome if you would confirm your identity (so we know we are really asking real maarx and not a fake account). I'm sure you would find the way using BTC or BC chains, for example by creating tiny transaction from one account of yours (reported to the community before) to another account. This would substantially increase trust in this thread and you. Thank you! IconicExpert has not lied about that. A few group members have asked him to promote a "Meet Black" campaign. This campaign would give anyone, who would sell their bags of Mintcoin, and buy Blackcoin, get 5% extra cash. IE did not take this on, since he did not see it as a good promotion. The lie would have been "tell the mint community that large mint holders have contacted you". No mint people contacted him and this, therefore, would have been a lie. It would have been a lie against the "mint community" The promotion went on nevertheless, just not by IE, and not on mintcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6419037#msg6419037Note that nobody lied here, it was a push to promote this campaign, which flopped. zlyMartin can you explain how I would confirm my identity? Give me your address and I will send you a lambo. (my address: BA5XJv8SoiryRUZi2QsvoKHHABPqgssukg) Thank you for being honest, I sincerely appreciate that. As I stated in my first post maarx was not involved and I sincerely believe he does not know. When he says "the group is not suppressing the price"..he is being honest because he is not involved and was not privy to that information.
Maarx has proven this group has no problem asking others to deceive people to get what they want. What makes you think the first time was with me? I had a chance to conspire with this group and I said no because of integrity. It would have been a lie and a didn't do it. So why the hell would I put myself on the line in a public forum and lie about this? Why would I lie on innocent people. morituri13 claimed that Maarx was one of the people who personally attacked me. So wouldn't make sense for me to accuse Maarx too if I was lying? But I didn't because he is innocent and I would be lying on him if I did. What is my end game for lying? What do I gain? I most certainly do not want the price to go down...
I have another question for Maarx... all the time you and I have interacted....have I ever did or "say" anything to make you feel I am a lair?Hi. Morituri13 / Dognip did not attack me personally or through you. He suggested that perhaps I "attacked" you, or got "into a fuss" with you or "argumented against you". What concerns the price- it is my honest belief that some larger investors are trying to increase their position. We will/ might see a breakout like before. As to reply to the question if I feel you are a liar. No, I do not believe you are a liar. What you stated on this group of people however, is not backed by anything and strikes me as a false accusation. I would like to see something backing your claim. And I would like your 6m group to come forward. We have to sort this out. Also this group that initiated the DDoS strikes me as a harmful group towards Blackcoin. Once again thank you for your honesty. The larger investors is the names I listed. When I get the the okay from the person who provided me with the info and screenshots I will make it public since they will be instantly exposed. Also, it is up to the 6M group to come forward if they choose to reveal themselves. There are many people who can verify they contact me in PM and I never throw anyone under the bus. In this case too many people are getting burned and I had enough. I will publically state that they can contact me. I believe it is good if we get all the long- term Blackcoin holders with significant amounts on the same level/ line. I think the internal war must stop. There is a lot of misinformation in/ out here, but I look forward to any Proof of Accusation. Hey, what's with the well thought out post without a giant red font?  ??
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What is in it? A virus? Or ...?
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