IconicExpert
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May 07, 2014, 09:02:11 AM |
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So just to clear up the logic, as far as i understand, IE is saying that: The investors are suppressing price of BC, to buy more cheap BC and then let the pool buy the price up for investors to dump for profit. This at the same time the investors are putting tens of thousands into promotion of BC with blackfriday, Coinkite, KNC miner promotion and to the PR fund. I guess these are all smokescreens for the real objective: suppressing price ? And as you all know, he has not one piece of evidence for his claims because those things only happened in his own head. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see some fake IRC logs soon but I am sure we all others have a lot of logs too. While trying to debunk my claims you are actually proving it. All of the "promotions" revolve around the Multi-Pool...why is the Multi-Pool so important? It has already been proven the multi-pool is having little to no effect at stabilizing the price of BC. So why so much effort into the multi-pool? The KNC miner is a lot of money, why not use that money to promote BC directly? Why is it so important that they would spend some much money on a prize just to get people to mine? CoinKite was funded mostly by the community, and no one really knows how much the PR firm is charging. They could be only charging only $15,000 and the community is paying for it. What I do know is before I posted my "accusations" everyone was spamming the PR firm donation drive on every page, after the post it slowly stop to a a measly trickle.
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derBruchpilotPro
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May 07, 2014, 09:03:50 AM |
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I'm 100% transparent with my accounts, you can even ask Mintpal Jay or Jason who know my personal account as well as the pool account, and ask them how much BC I've dumped. You'd be surprised to know that the amount is surprisingly very close to 0, even on my personal account. Same thing for Cryptsy, they know both my personal and pool accounts, and I talk with them on a frequent basis, feel free to inquire to them.
wow you must be either way: 1- a very important crypto persona or 2- have a very wealthy accounts for both major exchanges to know your accounts personally... since there is much contact with mintpal, I guess Jay or Jason knows his account personally.
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NEM/XEM!!!
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minedout
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May 07, 2014, 09:06:35 AM |
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Bickering like teenagers in here.... oh wait...
Guess I'll wait to buy back in because your bickering isn't doing anything productive or confidence building in BC.
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hiddensphinx
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May 07, 2014, 09:08:41 AM |
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on a good note though none of the arguing here has had any effect on the price of BC...I am buying 2 BTC worth tomorrow ...BUY BLACK!
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keshuker
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May 07, 2014, 09:10:41 AM |
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So just to clear up the logic, as far as i understand, IE is saying that: The investors are suppressing price of BC, to buy more cheap BC and then let the pool buy the price up for investors to dump for profit. This at the same time the investors are putting tens of thousands into promotion of BC with blackfriday, Coinkite, KNC miner promotion and to the PR fund. I guess these are all smokescreens for the real objective: suppressing price ? And as you all know, he has not one piece of evidence for his claims because those things only happened in his own head. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see some fake IRC logs soon but I am sure we all others have a lot of logs too. While trying to debunk my claims you are actually proving it. All of the "promotions" revolve around the Multi-Pool...why is the Multi-Pool so important? It has already been proven the multi-pool is having little to no effect at stabilizing the price of BC. So why so much effort into the multi-pool? The KNC miner is a lot of money, why not use that money to promote BC directly. Why is it so important that they would spend some much money on a prize just to get people to mine? CoinKite was funded mostly by the community, and no one really knows how much the PR firm is charging. They could be only charging $15,000 and the community is paying for it. What I do know is before I posted my "accusations" everyone was spamming the PR firm donation drive on every page, after the post it slowly stop to a a measly trickle. It is my money and if I see it as best to "invest" my pledged 2 btc in funding the miner, then I am allowed to right? This is my and others decision to promote the pool with the miner promotion. The KNC costs around 20btc and if we get to 10gh/s on the pool it will create almost 50btc/day buying power, so I see it as money well spent. The miner promotion is not taking anything away from your usb stick selling. Coinkite was community funded? There was a few kbc from community, 50kbc from mintpal and 200kbc from the investor group (i sent 20kbc, how much did you contribute?). Get your facts straight. Never thought of where those blackcoins came so quickly to the coinkite fund? Start thinking before posting! Now go in the corner for 1 week as RAT4 also asked you to and come back with your chin up and continue with your promotions that you have planned.
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leogela
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May 07, 2014, 09:14:10 AM |
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When blackcoinpool usually make payout?? I'm mining X11 stable at 8mh/s from 5 May 11:30 p.m. and today I don't have any BC in may wallet yet...
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derBruchpilotPro
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May 07, 2014, 09:14:52 AM |
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on a good note though none of the arguing here has had any effect on the price of BC...I am buying 2 BTC worth tomorrow ...BUY BLACK!
Yeah, that shows how unimportant this BS here is. And its good that it seems that all the trolling/accusing/insulting only concentrates here in this thread.
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NEM/XEM!!!
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Alpharisc
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May 07, 2014, 09:20:32 AM |
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wow you must be either way:
1- a very important crypto persona or 2- have a very wealthy accounts
for both major exchanges to know your accounts personally...
Jay shows up frequently in many IRC channels where members of the crypto community congregate. His nick is <MintpalJay>. He's a widely known figure, and easy to converse with if you have an issue, no matter what ammount your holding is. Just like BigVern and John frequently pop up in the Cryptsy trollbox and deal with account issues directly from time to time if asked. Also, the multipool is obviously a big volume customer, so it would make sense to hammer things out with the exchange operators. Without prior contact, most exchanges (cryptsy and mintpal) don't allow more than 5 withdraws an hour without prior consultation. Your 'revelation' here just shows how laughably ignorant and grasping at straws your attacks are.
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arcaderivalry
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May 07, 2014, 09:31:04 AM |
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Have to say, I'm genuinely shocked at the lack of professionalism shown by iconicexpert in handling this. Bickering so often is definitely not going to instill anyone's confidence in your legitimacy.
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Ziploc
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May 07, 2014, 09:35:09 AM |
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wow you must be either way:
1- a very important crypto persona or 2- have a very wealthy accounts
for both major exchanges to know your accounts personally...
Jay shows up frequently in many IRC channels where members of the crypto community congregate. His nick is <MintpalJay>. He's a widely known figure, and easy to converse with if you have an issue, no matter what ammount your holding is. Just like BigVern and John frequently pop up in the Cryptsy trollbox and deal with account issues directly from time to time if asked. Also, the multipool is obviously a big volume customer, so it would make sense to hammer things out with the exchange operators. Without prior contact, most exchanges (cryptsy and mintpal) don't allow more than 5 withdraws an hour without prior consultation. Your 'revelation' here just shows how laughably ignorant and grasping at straws your attacks are. why are you on a defensive...something to hide ? It wasn't an attack just simple observation...
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Ziploc
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May 07, 2014, 09:36:03 AM |
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Have to say, I'm genuinely shocked at the lack of professionalism shown by iconicexpert in handling this. Bickering so often is definitely not going to instill anyone's confidence in your legitimacy.
1st post... he has way more credibility than you...sorry
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ShroomsKit_Disgrace
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May 07, 2014, 09:38:02 AM |
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So, did the scammers finally give back our money?
This community must punish them!
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Ralph0603
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May 07, 2014, 09:39:24 AM |
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When blackcoinpool usually make payout?? I'm mining X11 stable at 8mh/s from 5 May 11:30 p.m. and today I don't have any BC in may wallet yet...
payout delayed because of rolling out v2. You will receive your payouts soon.
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Subtuppel
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May 07, 2014, 09:40:16 AM |
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meanwhile in the real world: price and volume slowly rising again on the exchanges.
seems as if nobody gives a flying fuck about this mix of conspiracies and dick measurement contest - so stop, continue, whatever you like but leave it in here. still some proof in whatever direction would be much appreciated instead of just repeating the same stuff over and over.
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vizique
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May 07, 2014, 09:42:27 AM |
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In other news Blackcoin doing very well PR fund growing Coinkite implementation imminent Business as usual Move along nothing to see I'd recommend a visit to Reddit where multi faceted discssions talk place in a grown up way and dont all get lumped into one incohesive thread of painful trash. Also go see Blackcointalk forum.. another worthy site!
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Alpharisc
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May 07, 2014, 09:45:01 AM |
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why are you on a defensive...something to hide ? Yeah, providing you with easily verifiable info is 'defensive' and indicates I have 'something to hide.' Does the twisted logic and rhetorical leaps you guys engage in know no reasonable bounds? I give up, there's no point conversing with trolls. You have nothing to offer the conversation other than FUD and innuendo.
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keshuker
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May 07, 2014, 09:46:25 AM |
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meanwhile in the real world: price and volume slowly rising again on the exchanges.
seems as if nobody gives a flying fuck about this mix of conspiracies and dick measurement contest - so stop, continue, whatever you like but leave it in here. still some proof in whatever direction would be much appreciated instead of just repeating the same stuff over and over.
If someone calls you out to be a scammer, he cant put up any evidence for his claim but he just keeps shouting scammer. How can you prove that you are not? The accuser must come forward with the evidence the shouting is based on for you to be able to defend yourself right? And you can bet your stack of BC that if there were any proof, they would have been posted in the original "announcement". Lets just leave it up to the accusers to bring something to the table or gtfo in shame.
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derBruchpilotPro
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May 07, 2014, 09:52:49 AM |
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When blackcoinpool usually make payout?? I'm mining X11 stable at 8mh/s from 5 May 11:30 p.m. and today I don't have any BC in may wallet yet...
Payouts are out now.
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NEM/XEM!!!
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maarx
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May 07, 2014, 09:53:15 AM |
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Have to say, I'm genuinely shocked at the lack of professionalism shown by iconicexpert in handling this. Bickering so often is definitely not going to instill anyone's confidence in your legitimacy.
1st post... he has way more credibility than you...sorry Not every first poster is a fake account. A lot of people (lurkers) get emotionally involved in "discussions" such as these. Hence they sign up. My take. Besides, he is giving his opinion. How can you give credibility to an opinion? I believe you can't. You can agree or disagree with him, but that's it.
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