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March 26, 2014, 02:41:37 PM
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The 3 reasons Heavycoin will never replace Litecoin or Darkcoin, and will even be behind Slothcoin in a month or two:

1)  Premine: 1-2% (depending on total supply) for future development, support and maintenance
2)  Bounties: 1-2% (depending on total supply) for strategic direction and promoting of heavycoin
3)  IPO: 4-8% (depending on total supply) already distributed over 172 stakeholders


This coin is a giant scam coin and it's really pathetic seeing people hype it up like it's going to the moon or something.  I'm amazed the price isn't 0 right now.

Stop supporting blatant scam coins and making yourselves look like fools.  Get out while you still can.

If you want average risk with good chance of high profit, go Darkcoin.

If you want high risk and possibility of extreme reward, go Slothcoin.

If you want low risk, average reward, go Litecoin.


How can you even mention Darkcoin and Slothcoin in one post ? Grin
Sloth is just another garbage copy/animal coin that belongs in the dumpster with catcoin,penguinecoin,Nyancoin etc. Just a copycoin made in one minute to dump it to some fools. Thats why your shitty coin does not have even one satoshi worth of buy orders despite being weeks old Cheesy
Dark coin is interesting because it brings innovation and has competent developers just as Heavycoin but darkcoin's market cap is quite big already and there is not as much room for growth.
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March 26, 2014, 02:45:11 PM
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The 3 reasons Heavycoin will never replace Litecoin or Darkcoin, and will even be behind Slothcoin in a month or two:

1)  Premine: 1-2% (depending on total supply) for future development, support and maintenance
2)  Bounties: 1-2% (depending on total supply) for strategic direction and promoting of heavycoin
3)  IPO: 4-8% (depending on total supply) already distributed over 172 stakeholders


This coin is a giant scam coin and it's really pathetic seeing people hype it up like it's going to the moon or something.  I'm amazed the price isn't 0 right now.

Stop supporting blatant scam coins and making yourselves look like fools.  Get out while you still can.

If you want average risk with good chance of high profit, go Darkcoin.

If you want high risk and possibility of extreme reward, go Slothcoin.

If you want low risk, average reward, go Litecoin.

Ridiculous, this ~2% premine is not big, the IPO gives a vested interest to early backers, instead of just miners at intro, much like venture capitalists and early stage seed investors in traditional investments

For those of you who have been around a while you'll remember tenebrix. One of the early alt-currencies implementing scrypt as a proof-of-work scheme.

Later came Fairbrix, which was a Tenebrix clone with a fair distribution, and then later came litecoin which was essentially a no mc clone of Fairbrix done right, this is ultimately the coin that caught on as one of the first 'viable' alts with lasting power.

The developers of these knew from the very beginning scrypt was not 'GPU-immune' as purpoted, and were secretly mining using GPU (Artforz et al)
while the rest of the general populous was stuck on CPU. Eventually GPU mining became public and Scrypt based coins moved onto claiming 'ASIC-resistance' instead.

In the case of bitcoin, which was becoming increasingly centralised with huge mining farms who had the power
to fund low-cost development of ASIC's, suck up huge profits by private mining, dumping that on market and to darkpools in bulk and selling hardware to suckers once they have outlived their usefullness at huge markups, THEN re-investing profits in a snowball effect to fund next more efficient & powerful ASIC designs many people decided to diversify into a coin where the mining was still decentralized, in the sense you didn't have to buy specialized equipment, more like '1 gpu, 1 vote' as bitcoin was 1 cpu 1 vote in the beginning

Fast forward ~3 years and we start to see emergence of ASIC designs which could compete with GPU. The first manafacturer, Gridseed had tape-out cost of  ~0.90$ per chip based on full wafer meaning a 51% attack on LTC was trivial with just a modest financial outlay.(of course it made sense for them to not 51% and instead private mine and sell the hardware to suckers)

now, there are other manafacturers with designs almost ready. Everybody knows about KNC for instance. There is another relatively unknown manafacturer in China who had also raised millions of dollars for r&d and production of scrypt mining and already controls the largest pool, they were running with FPGA for long time. They will soon have majority of LTC hashpower by big margin, all the whinging about CEX.IO in comparison will be small

When these are unleashed it truly is end of days for anybody stuck with GPU. And in fact the outlook is more centralisation than Bitcoin. So what exactly is the benefit of LTC over BTC? totally none, the 'faster confirmations time' is no longer a viable enough reason, it's a dilution, the one selling point of asic resistance is now totally moot.

It's no longer a fair coin. Most big holders and insiders picked up it was languishing and then orchestrated a co-ordinated pump

The only reason I can see it to continue is sunk-cost fallacies, it's already maintained a community of fervent bagholders who beleive it's the silver to btc's gold, also the fact that for some reason, people love to buy the latest and greatest shovels. they will pay 5 gold coins for a machine that may only ever dig back 3 gold coins in it's lifetime, maybe they don't realise, don't care or maybe they know there will be another sucker who'll buy that same shovel for 3 coins. In some cases they do make a profit but it's getting rarer these days

Heavycoin is the coin litecoin should've been in 2014. decentralized mining, decentralized voting, Quick conf times, ASIC and multipool resistance- all topped up with a transparent and fair distribution model.

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March 26, 2014, 02:45:35 PM
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The 3 reasons Heavycoin will never replace Litecoin or Darkcoin, and will even be behind Slothcoin in a month or two:

1)  Premine: 1-2% (depending on total supply) for future development, support and maintenance
2)  Bounties: 1-2% (depending on total supply) for strategic direction and promoting of heavycoin
3)  IPO: 4-8% (depending on total supply) already distributed over 172 stakeholders


This coin is a giant scam coin and it's really pathetic seeing people hype it up like it's going to the moon or something.  I'm amazed the price isn't 0 right now.

Stop supporting blatant scam coins and making yourselves look like fools.  Get out while you still can.

If you want average risk with good chance of high profit, go Darkcoin.

If you want high risk and possibility of extreme reward, go Slothcoin.

If you want low risk, average reward, go Litecoin.
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March 26, 2014, 02:46:46 PM
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Keccak if HVC supporters were to create a pool like black coin did to create dominant buy support would this work for hvc?
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March 26, 2014, 03:00:30 PM
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The 3 reasons Heavycoin will never replace Litecoin or Darkcoin, and will even be behind Slothcoin in a month or two:

1)  Premine: 1-2% (depending on total supply) for future development, support and maintenance
2)  Bounties: 1-2% (depending on total supply) for strategic direction and promoting of heavycoin
3)  IPO: 4-8% (depending on total supply) already distributed over 172 stakeholders


This coin is a giant scam coin and it's really pathetic seeing people hype it up like it's going to the moon or something.  I'm amazed the price isn't 0 right now.

Stop supporting blatant scam coins and making yourselves look like fools.  Get out while you still can.

If you want average risk with good chance of high profit, go Darkcoin.

If you want high risk and possibility of extreme reward, go Slothcoin.

If you want low risk, average reward, go Litecoin.

Ridiculous, this ~2% premine is not big, the IPO gives a vested interest to early backers, instead of just miners at intro, much like venture capitalists and early stage seed investors in traditional investments

For those of you who have been around a while you'll remember tenebrix. One of the early alt-currencies implementing scrypt as a proof-of-work scheme.

Later came Fairbrix, which was a Tenebrix clone with a fair distribution, and then later came litecoin which was essentially a no mc clone of Fairbrix done right, this is ultimately the coin that caught on as one of the first 'viable' alts with lasting power.

The developers of these knew from the very beginning scrypt was not 'GPU-immune' as purpoted, and were secretly mining using GPU (Artforz et al)
while the rest of the general populous was stuck on CPU. Eventually GPU mining became public and Scrypt based coins moved onto claiming 'ASIC-resistance' instead.

In the case of bitcoin, which was becoming increasingly centralised with huge mining farms who had the power
to fund low-cost development of ASIC's, suck up huge profits by private mining, dumping that on market and to darkpools in bulk and selling hardware to suckers once they have outlived their usefullness at huge markups, THEN re-investing profits in a snowball effect to fund next more efficient & powerful ASIC designs many people decided to diversify into a coin where the mining was still decentralized, in the sense you didn't have to buy specialized equipment, more like '1 gpu, 1 vote' as bitcoin was 1 cpu 1 vote in the beginning

Fast forward ~3 years and we start to see emergence of ASIC designs which could compete with GPU. The first manafacturer, Gridseed had tape-out cost of  ~0.90$ per chip based on full wafer meaning a 51% attack on LTC was trivial with just a modest financial outlay.(of course it made sense for them to not 51% and instead private mine and sell the hardware to suckers)

now, there are other manafacturers with designs almost ready. Everybody knows about KNC for instance. There is another relatively unknown manafacturer in China who had also raised millions of dollars for r&d and production of scrypt mining and already controls the largest pool, they were running with FPGA for long time. They will soon have majority of LTC hashpower by big margin, all the whinging about CEX.IO in comparison will be small

When these are unleashed it truly is end of days for anybody stuck with GPU. And in fact the outlook is more centralisation than Bitcoin. So what exactly is the benefit of LTC over BTC? totally none, the 'faster confirmations time' is no longer a viable enough reason, it's a dilution, the one selling point of asic resistance is now totally moot.

It's no longer a fair coin. Most big holders and insiders picked up it was languishing and then orchestrated a co-ordinated pump

The only reason I can see it to continue is sunk-cost fallacies, it's already maintained a community of fervent bagholders who beleive it's the silver to btc's gold, also the fact that for some reason, people love to buy the latest and greatest shovels. they will pay 5 gold coins for a machine that may only ever dig back 3 gold coins in it's lifetime, maybe they don't realise, don't care or maybe they know there will be another sucker who'll buy that same shovel for 3 coins. In some cases they do make a profit but it's getting rarer these days

Heavycoin is the coin litecoin should've been in 2014. decentralized mining, decentralized voting, Quick conf times, ASIC and multipool resistance- all topped up with a transparent and fair distribution model.


Nice answer  Wink
I totally agree that LTC is becoming irrelevant and will just die. It still has not made it anywhere and with ASICS it will just loose it's community/fan base which will be the start of the end. It has nothing going for it anymore and there are innovative coins out there that truly could be silver if BTC is gold.
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March 26, 2014, 03:11:29 PM
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Shouldn't the BTC from the IPO be used for the infrastructure of HVY though ? There is no need for an additional 2% premine for infrastructure if you have an IPO as the IPO money should be used for future proofing the coin, where does the IPO money go ? in the devs pocket or on future development of coin along with the 2% premine ?

I am blunt, don't like it ? Too bad
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March 26, 2014, 03:12:57 PM
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The 3 reasons Heavycoin will never replace Litecoin or Darkcoin, and will even be behind Slothcoin in a month or two:

1)  Premine: 1-2% (depending on total supply) for future development, support and maintenance
2)  Bounties: 1-2% (depending on total supply) for strategic direction and promoting of heavycoin
3)  IPO: 4-8% (depending on total supply) already distributed over 172 stakeholders


This coin is a giant scam coin and it's really pathetic seeing people hype it up like it's going to the moon or something.  I'm amazed the price isn't 0 right now.

Stop supporting blatant scam coins and making yourselves look like fools.  Get out while you still can.

If you want average risk with good chance of high profit, go Darkcoin.

If you want high risk and possibility of extreme reward, go Slothcoin.

If you want low risk, average reward, go Litecoin.
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If Bitcoin was released with an IPO + large premine generated from the genesis block (not the same thing as Satoshi mining it), do you honestly think anyone would be using it all?  The answer is no.  It would rightfully be called a scam from day 1 and instantly forgotten.  Just because Bitcoin paved the way here, doesn't mean you can run scams like this now and get away with it.

Personally, I believe there will be multiple PoW coins to make it, all using different hashing algorithms.  Sha-2, Keccak, X11, Scrypt, and maybe one or two more.

Currently, there are no valid Keccak coins except Slothcoin.  Maxcoin's 30s block time is not valid, it has no developers, and the wallet doesn't even sync.  That's why I listed Sloth as a high risk, high reward potential coin, because it can easily defeat Maxcoin and take the sole position of Keccak PoW coin.  I was one of the first 100 people on the planet to mine Dogecoin, so I'm well aware of how fast a coin can go from seemingly worthless to millions.

Heavycoin will not be one of those coins to make it because there's WAY TOO MANY alternatives without premines and IPOs to choose from.  Thinking you can get away with this stuff when people have the option of 5000 other coins to choose from is the definition of insanity.

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Nice answer  Wink
I totally agree that LTC is becoming irrelevant and will just die. It still has not made it anywhere and with ASICS it will just loose it's community/fan base which will be the start of the end. It has nothing going for it anymore and there are innovative coins out there that truly could be silver if BTC is gold.

Innovative coins like HVC, DRK, MYR ? I don't see any other that has potential. Maybe someone can enlighten me ? Smiley
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March 26, 2014, 03:19:38 PM
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Thinking you can get away with this stuff when people have the option of 5000 other coins to choose from is the definition of insanity.

Welcome to my Ignore List!    Grin

Welcome to my bagholder list

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March 26, 2014, 03:25:49 PM
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Crazy volume this morning on Mintpal... Anyone else take notice?  24 hour volume at 100BTC
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Welcome all GPU and CPU miners join the best Zhpool and mine the best HVC

We are running keccak512's official pool modules, that means our pool will get the best support from HeavyCoin community.

Our pool is now running close to 9G hash rate, we are keeping solving blocks all the time, we helped a lot of miners solve all kinds of issues, we are trying to give the best profit to our miners.

We do believe we can do even better with the help from all of you from all countries and nations!

You can read the other miners' voting, all estimates detail,  the latest price from exchange and more, but read no adv. Wink

All of this, only at http://heavycoin.zhpool.com

Let's mine our fortune together!


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>>> Asia, Russia, etc. <<<
stratum+tcp://pool1.heavycoin.zhpool.com:20001 for CPU, 10K+ hsps
stratum+tcp://pool1.heavycoin.zhpool.com:30001 for GPU, 2M+ hsps

>>> Asia, Russia, etc. <<<
stratum+tcp://pool2.heavycoin.zhpool.com:20001 for CPU, 10K+ hsps
stratum+tcp://pool2.heavycoin.zhpool.com:30001 for GPU, 2M+ hsps

>>> North America, Europe <<<
stratum+tcp://pool3.heavycoin.zhpool.com:20001 for CPU, 10K+ hsps
stratum+tcp://pool3.heavycoin.zhpool.com:30001 for GPU, 2M+ hsps (not ready)
(we got a few miners still mining on this pool3, we have to make them prepared before reload the server settings, please use pool4 at present, we will let you know when ready very soon)

>>> North America, Europe <<<
stratum+tcp://pool4.heavycoin.zhpool.com:20001 for CPU, 10K+ hsps
stratum+tcp://pool4.heavycoin.zhpool.com:30001 for GPU, 2M+ hsps



Again, we try to help our miners to attack the best hashrate, a fixdiff stratum-mining service is added,

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stratum+tcp://pool2.heavycoin.zhpool.com:40001 for GPU, 20M hsps, fixdiff

>>> North America, Europe <<<
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March 26, 2014, 03:28:21 PM
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Mintpal is actually offline now!
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March 26, 2014, 03:36:32 PM
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Not any more. Smiley

Mintpal is actually offline now!
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March 26, 2014, 03:41:03 PM
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Not any more. Smiley

Mintpal is actually offline now!

Still down for me.
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March 26, 2014, 03:46:30 PM
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Can anyone explain this problem?

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[00:56:43] Log date is now 2014-03-26
 [00:56:43] Started cgminer 3.7.3


 [00:56:43] Log date is now 2014-03-26
 [00:56:43] Started cgminer 3.7.3
 [00:56:43] Probing for an alive pool
 [00:56:44] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 0.000244
 [01:00:54] Waiting for work to be available from pools.
 [01:00:54] Setting GPUs to idle performance.

Eventually the miner exits.

Running Ubuntu 12.04 on 4x HD7950, with latest source from https://github.com/reorder/cgminer_heavy and catalyst 13.12 stable. Using pool 1gh or nonce-pool gives the same problem. Using config file or settings from 1GH also the same.
I'm running 2 gpus on the motherboard and 2 with a usb riser. Disconnecting the 2 usb risers I'm able to start mining HVC through 1GH. With the 2 usb risers I'm unable. Scrypt goes fine btw.
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March 26, 2014, 04:06:44 PM
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We made some compare testing between port 30001 and port 40001, and you will totally understand why you should choose mining with us


Platform 1:

AMD 7850 x 6, windows 7 64b, driver13.12

Using vardiff pool 30001


Using fixdiff pool 40001


Using fixdiff pool 40001 with set I to 8


Amazing? right?

Platform 2:
AMD R9 290 x 5, windows 7 64b, driver13.12

Using vardiff pool 30001


Using fixdiff pool 40001


Please take a shot at http://heavycoin.zhpool.com




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March 26, 2014, 04:15:51 PM
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Yes, it's 290 not 290X

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yeah, 7970 now 10MH
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March 26, 2014, 04:46:48 PM
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For anyone new to this thread.... Trolls like r0ach are here only here with a profit motive.

One, to promote their crap-coins (sloth, which he probably is a "bag-holder" of) and two,  to attempt to temporarily lower price of this real innovative coin so he could buy for slightly cheaper because he hesitated when it was on sale.

Sorry r0ach troll, nobody is buying your crap coin. It's still early for HVC though, grab some now before you are kicking yourself later and back in here trying the same old scam Tongue
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March 26, 2014, 04:48:23 PM
 #3460

yeah, 7970 now 10MH
How? I am only getting 8.2MH with I - 6
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