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March 29, 2014, 02:51:15 PM
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Heavycoin is a good coin,it works good,I am mining it Grin Grin

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March 29, 2014, 02:57:20 PM
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Keep in mind that it can make a lot of sense to mine "at a loss" for now if you are holding your coins.
It never makes sense to mine at a loss, you'll get more coins for the same money by switching your equipment off and buying the coins on an exchange instead.

Ya think?

Let me give you an example.  If you mined BTC right now at exactly $500 USD trade value and earned one BTC but it costs you $10 in electricity.  But then held it for a month until BTC goes back up to $650 did you not come out $140 ahead?

In this example you saved $10 in electricity while I made $140 for a difference of $150.  I can still buy/sell coins also while mining.

It's all a personal choice of course.  But if your speculation of the coin says it's going to increase in value then it can certainly make sense to mine at a loss TODAY for higher value TOMORROW as the example above shows.

Carlo

i get your point but if you are mining at a loss surely it's better to mine at a profit on another coin, sell and then convert that immediately into HVC? that way you get the best of both worlds.
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March 29, 2014, 03:01:28 PM
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i'm having 3 290, with the newest miner,each can reach 21m, but one of the 3 doesn't work, anyone has some ideas about this

hi,

what is your setings??

I am only able to reach 17 mH/s

greetings
Make sure you have the latest optimized miner.  And FWIW TC settings mean nothing when mining HVC. Mine are all set @ 0.

Where can I get the latest miner? I already upgraded to the cpu miner with 20% more performance. Or do you mean gpu miner?
GPU miner. Get it here.

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March 29, 2014, 03:03:37 PM
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can we have the miner in the original post?

that miner in the pool is full of trojan

Full of what?
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March 29, 2014, 03:14:15 PM
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Heavycoin is a good coin,it works good,I am mining it Grin Grin

This is now?
You love what is the reason for it?
Low price?

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March 29, 2014, 03:16:39 PM
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This coin has the potential to become the new ltc.  Lets get the community to grow, do some fundraising doge style and get noticed!
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March 29, 2014, 03:18:34 PM
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can we have the miner in the original post?

that miner in the pool is full of trojan

Full of what?

Likely a spam account, or at least an account that seeks to get early verification by 'making posts'... which are really just copy/pastes of portions of earlier posts.  In this case, it's from a March 9th post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=506774.msg5603644#msg5603644

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March 29, 2014, 03:19:18 PM
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can we have the miner in the original post?

that miner in the pool is full of trojan

Full of what?
These.

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March 29, 2014, 03:20:05 PM
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Ya think?

Let me give you an example.  If you mined BTC right now at exactly $500 USD trade value and earned one BTC but it costs you $10 in electricity.  But then held it for a month until BTC goes back up to $650 did you not come out $140 ahead?

In this example you saved $10 in electricity while I made $140 for a difference of $150.
No, you came out $10 down as you could have just bought the BTC instead and been $150 up instead of only $140 up.

You could not be up $150 your way because you didn't have a full BTC.  You could only purchase what you saved on electricity which is $10 by not mining and using the savings to purchase with.

If I had $10 (what I saved by not mining) and purchased BTC (assuming no fees) I would be able to purchase 10/500 of 1 BTC or 0.02 btc

in that same time frame mentioned above now when sold at $650 per BTC I'd have 0.02 * $650 or $13 dollars profit before paying fees from investing savings from not mining.

Would you rather have a profit of $13 minus fees
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$150 minus cost of $10 (electric cost) for $140 profit?

I'd rather have $140 then $13 so it CAN MAKE SENSE TO MINE AT A LOSS!

Not really sure what's so hard to grasp about this?
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March 29, 2014, 03:20:55 PM
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It is a very nice coin !

Great coin?
A good coin don't exist anymore. Oh
Maybe the bit is still good

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March 29, 2014, 03:21:52 PM
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It is a very nice coin !

Great coin?
A good coin don't exist anymore. Oh
Maybe the bit is still good

Bitcoin bear will defeat you Bratcoin bulls. Bear bEAR bEAR!
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March 29, 2014, 03:26:23 PM
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This coin has the potential to become the new ltc.  Lets get the community to grow, do some fundraising doge style and get noticed!

Smiley starting Monday of next week we are rolling out a marketing campaign. I'll be needing volunteers for several things pm me if interested in helping.
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March 29, 2014, 03:36:59 PM
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Hello again HeavyCoiners! My guide to getting started with HeavyCoin is complete!

Please take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=542962 and share this with anyone you know looking to get into Crypto. It's a pretty thorough guide about everything from downloading the wallet, mining and exchanges. I'm open to suggestions for anything I could add.

Also in the guide is a link and description of my Mine-and-Forget program. It's a windows program to help keep mining from getting in the way of work and other tasks you might be using your computer for. It will run your mining program after a set time of inactivity (you set it) and will cancel the miner anytime the user does anything. Hopefully this will help us convince our friends that mining won't be so bad after all! Smiley

Mine and Forget V1.0
Mine and Forget Source Code V1.0

With nice cool mining and no interruptions, there's no reason for the average person not to join the HeavyCoin party!

Also, please keep sending your configurations to me at heavycoinwiki@gmail.com! It should help us keep this thread centered on how to grow HVC Smiley

Good luck miners! HVC to da MOON!

BTC: 163pZXhATaWiuGAX9o9y6PuKCF8ipDWnJH
HVC: HJWFdgUJPEw1oiLckBFPBzs8vCTLokCGgd
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March 29, 2014, 03:49:58 PM
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Hello again HeavyCoiners! My guide to getting started with HeavyCoin is complete!

Please take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=542962 and share this with anyone you know looking to get into Crypto. It's a pretty thorough guide about everything from downloading the wallet, mining and exchanges. I'm open to suggestions for anything I could add.

Also in the guide is a link and description of my Mine-and-Forget program. It's a windows program to help keep mining from getting in the way of work and other tasks you might be using your computer for. It will run your mining program after a set time of inactivity (you set it) and will cancel the miner anytime the user does anything. Hopefully this will help us convince our friends that mining won't be so bad after all! Smiley

Mine and Forget V1.0
Mine and Forget Source Code V1.0

With nice cool mining and no interruptions, there's no reason for the average person not to join the HeavyCoin party!

Also, please keep sending your configurations to me at heavycoinwiki@gmail.com! It should help us keep this thread centered on how to grow HVC Smiley

Good luck miners! HVC to da MOON!

Nice write up! I like to check every few hours too. Which pool do you favor? I love this coin, but I can't seem to get more than a couple 2-3 coin payouts per day. I was getting way more before the difficulty went up (as to be expected) but now I'm getting so few (practically none with 11 m/hash, very few invalids) that I'm thinking of switching to a different coin. 
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March 29, 2014, 03:52:54 PM
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You could not be up $150 your way because you didn't have a full BTC.  You could only purchase what you saved on electricity which is $10 by not mining and using the savings to purchase with.

If I had $10 (what I saved by not mining) and purchased BTC (assuming no fees) I would be able to purchase 10/500 of 1 BTC or 0.02 btc

in that same time frame mentioned above now when sold at $650 per BTC I'd have 0.02 * $650 or $13 dollars profit before paying fees from investing savings from not mining.

Would you rather have a profit of $13 minus fees
or
$150 minus cost of $10 (electric cost) for $140 profit?

I'd rather have $140 then $13 so it CAN MAKE SENSE TO MINE AT A LOSS!

Not really sure what's so hard to grasp about this?
You're not making any sense, we were talking about mining at a loss, i.e. where the cost of electricity is higher than the value of the coins you are mining. If you can mine 1 BTC for $10 of electricity, you're not mining at a loss!

I assumed what you meant was that you mined 1 BTC at a net cost of $10, i.e. that you paid $510 in electricity to receive 1 BTC of value $500, which is what mining at a loss is.
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March 29, 2014, 04:01:16 PM
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cpu   or gpu miner?
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March 29, 2014, 04:07:18 PM
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Hello again HeavyCoiners! My guide to getting started with HeavyCoin is complete!

Please take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=542962 and share this with anyone you know looking to get into Crypto. It's a pretty thorough guide about everything from downloading the wallet, mining and exchanges. I'm open to suggestions for anything I could add.

Also in the guide is a link and description of my Mine-and-Forget program. It's a windows program to help keep mining from getting in the way of work and other tasks you might be using your computer for. It will run your mining program after a set time of inactivity (you set it) and will cancel the miner anytime the user does anything. Hopefully this will help us convince our friends that mining won't be so bad after all! Smiley

Mine and Forget V1.0
Mine and Forget Source Code V1.0

With nice cool mining and no interruptions, there's no reason for the average person not to join the HeavyCoin party!

Also, please keep sending your configurations to me at heavycoinwiki@gmail.com! It should help us keep this thread centered on how to grow HVC Smiley

Good luck miners! HVC to da MOON!

You should include "--no-submit-stale" for the cgminer version.

Overall, looks good.
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March 29, 2014, 04:13:25 PM
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You could not be up $150 your way because you didn't have a full BTC.  You could only purchase what you saved on electricity which is $10 by not mining and using the savings to purchase with.

If I had $10 (what I saved by not mining) and purchased BTC (assuming no fees) I would be able to purchase 10/500 of 1 BTC or 0.02 btc

in that same time frame mentioned above now when sold at $650 per BTC I'd have 0.02 * $650 or $13 dollars profit before paying fees from investing savings from not mining.

Would you rather have a profit of $13 minus fees
or
$150 minus cost of $10 (electric cost) for $140 profit?

I'd rather have $140 then $13 so it CAN MAKE SENSE TO MINE AT A LOSS!

Not really sure what's so hard to grasp about this?
You're not making any sense, we were talking about mining at a loss, i.e. where the cost of electricity is higher than the value of the coins you are mining. If you can mine 1 BTC for $10 of electricity, you're not mining at a loss!

I assumed what you meant was that you mined 1 BTC at a net cost of $10, i.e. that you paid $510 in electricity to receive 1 BTC of value $500, which is what mining at a loss is.

You're making this difficult.  Lets be more specific Smiley

Say to mine 1 BTC it costs a total of $510 and lets also say current value of BTC is $500.  So to mine 1 BTC is COSTS you $10.  So you are mining at a loss of $10 per BTC.

Now you could invest that $10 in saving into buying BTC or you could mine at a loss of $10 per BTC to sell them at a higher price later.

So I was saying it would cost $510 to mine 1 BTC that right now is worth $500.  But say in 1 month it could be $650.  So $140 profit.

It's all speculation of FUTURE value of a coin.  But it CAN MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO MINE AT A "PRESENT" LOSS!
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March 29, 2014, 04:29:32 PM
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Hello again HeavyCoiners! My guide to getting started with HeavyCoin is complete!

Please take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=542962 and share this with anyone you know looking to get into Crypto. It's a pretty thorough guide about everything from downloading the wallet, mining and exchanges. I'm open to suggestions for anything I could add.

Also in the guide is a link and description of my Mine-and-Forget program. It's a windows program to help keep mining from getting in the way of work and other tasks you might be using your computer for. It will run your mining program after a set time of inactivity (you set it) and will cancel the miner anytime the user does anything. Hopefully this will help us convince our friends that mining won't be so bad after all! Smiley

Mine and Forget V1.0
Mine and Forget Source Code V1.0

With nice cool mining and no interruptions, there's no reason for the average person not to join the HeavyCoin party!

Also, please keep sending your configurations to me at heavycoinwiki@gmail.com! It should help us keep this thread centered on how to grow HVC Smiley

Good luck miners! HVC to da MOON!

Nice write up! I like to check every few hours too. Which pool do you favor? I love this coin, but I can't seem to get more than a couple 2-3 coin payouts per day. I was getting way more before the difficulty went up (as to be expected) but now I'm getting so few (practically none with 11 m/hash, very few invalids) that I'm thinking of switching to a different coin. 

I'm currently mining on zhpool. I tried on heavycoinpool for a while, but the payouts were nearly nothing. As for the low returns right now, I feel your pain. If you look on the hardware comparison, mine if the 560 Ti. The other two cards are my friends, and they're just mining through me. I really do survive on donations Smiley


You could not be up $150 your way because you didn't have a full BTC.  You could only purchase what you saved on electricity which is $10 by not mining and using the savings to purchase with.

If I had $10 (what I saved by not mining) and purchased BTC (assuming no fees) I would be able to purchase 10/500 of 1 BTC or 0.02 btc

in that same time frame mentioned above now when sold at $650 per BTC I'd have 0.02 * $650 or $13 dollars profit before paying fees from investing savings from not mining.

Would you rather have a profit of $13 minus fees
or
$150 minus cost of $10 (electric cost) for $140 profit?

I'd rather have $140 then $13 so it CAN MAKE SENSE TO MINE AT A LOSS!

Not really sure what's so hard to grasp about this?
You're not making any sense, we were talking about mining at a loss, i.e. where the cost of electricity is higher than the value of the coins you are mining. If you can mine 1 BTC for $10 of electricity, you're not mining at a loss!

I assumed what you meant was that you mined 1 BTC at a net cost of $10, i.e. that you paid $510 in electricity to receive 1 BTC of value $500, which is what mining at a loss is.

You're making this difficult.  Lets be more specific.

Say to mine 1 BTC it costs a total of $510 and lets also say current value of BTC is $500.  So to mine 1 BTC is COSTS you $10.  So you are mining at a loss of $10 per BTC.

Now you could invest that $10 in saving into buying BTC or you could mine at a loss of $10 per BTC to sell them at a higher price later.

So I was saying it would cost $510 to mine 1 BTC that right now is worth $500.  But say in 1 month it could be $650.  So $140 profit.

It's all speculation of FUTURE value of a coin.  But it CAN MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO MINE AT A "PRESENT" LOSS!

I'm leaning towards freethrow on this one actually, with one exception. If you want to invest in HVC, it doesn't make sense to mine it if it isn't profitable. The reason for this is that if you earn .2BTC a day mining HVC but could earn say .3BTC mining DOGE, then it would make more sense (and you'd get more HVC) to mine DOGE and then use exchanges to buy HVC. HOWEVER, this doesn't account for exchange time. There is always the possibility that HVC will become more profitable than your alternate coin, so if you want to go the exchange route, you're gambling there too.


You should include "--no-submit-stale" for the cgminer version.

Added, thanks for the input Smiley

BTC: 163pZXhATaWiuGAX9o9y6PuKCF8ipDWnJH
HVC: HJWFdgUJPEw1oiLckBFPBzs8vCTLokCGgd
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March 29, 2014, 04:36:27 PM
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Say to mine 1 BTC it costs a total of $510 and lets also say current value of BTC is $500.  So to mine 1 BTC is COSTS you $10.  So you are mining at a loss of $10 per BTC.

Now you could invest that $10 in saving into buying BTC or you could mine at a loss of $10 per BTC to sell them at a higher price later.

So I was saying it would cost $510 to mine 1 BTC that right now is worth $500.  But say in 1 month it could be $650.  So $140 profit.

It's all speculation of FUTURE value of a coin.  But it CAN MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO MINE AT A "PRESENT" LOSS!
Okay, so it costs you $510 to mine 1 BTC. Why is the alternative to only invest $10 in buying BTC? The alternative is to invest $510 in buying BTC, as that is what you have saved if you turn your equipment off.

Mining scenario - invest $510 to receive 1 BTC, value increases to $650, $140 profit
Invest via exchange scenario - invest $510 to receive 1.02 BTC, value increases to $663, $153 profit

When you mine you are converting fiat into coins via the cost of electricity, it never makes sense to pay more in electricity than you could get the same coins for from an exchange.
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