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Author Topic: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 🌟 (New Price List 04/2021)  (Read 531472 times)
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February 03, 2017, 04:00:38 PM
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IMPORTANT FOR BETA TESTER

A little problem i've already fix (it's a regression problem you won't be affected if you don't load an XML file from CAT 4.6)

- The parameter "STOP PING CREATION IF CURRENT MARKET SELL PRICE IS > X" have default value 0 in CAT 4.6 and 99999+ in CAT 4.7

So if you load a 4.6 XML File, you will have a console message like :

2017-01-31 17:36:27| BSP : |Stop Ping Creation If Current Market Sell Price is > 0.0000| Current Market Sell Price Is : 879.9996

And PING creation won't continue.

Solution : Update that parameter to 9999999 (That is CAT 4.7 Default Value).

I Repeat : In 4.7 OFFICIAL, i've added a check to let's you load a 4.6 File without problems.

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I was shocked about this and CAT is tranquilized since I got the beta because of no delight to sacrifice pointless time done again...
hope it will work in future

This is not a 4.6 problem, it's only a 4.7 BETA problem. Already fixed
You were shocked about what?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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February 03, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
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This is not a 4.6 problem, it's only a 4.7 BETA problem. Already fixed
You were shocked about what?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




I have overwritten all with 4.7 BETA
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February 03, 2017, 04:53:25 PM
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I have overwritten all with 4.7 BETA

CAT is 1 File, so you overwritten CAT.jar (4.6) to CAT.jar (4.7). Right?

Well this is not a problem, just open your XML File (with market parameters) with a text editor and perform a "REPLACE ALL"


<STOPPINGSELL>0</STOPPINGSELL>
with
<STOPPINGSELL>99999999</STOPPINGSELL>


And the fix is done also on your XML Files.
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February 04, 2017, 12:21:04 AM
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This is not a 4.6 problem, it's only a 4.7 BETA problem. Already fixed
You were shocked about what?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




I have overwritten all with 4.7 BETA
I think he wanted to say that he is affected of this, but used the wrong translations of the german word.

I'm not sure about the rest of the sentence, but if you don't like errors, why did you use the beta and not just the stable version?  Huh
Beta version can always have bugs. you can't blame the dev for it as it should be obvious that something like this can happen.

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February 04, 2017, 02:13:37 PM
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After some initial doubt about how to get profit with this bot, maybe i'm finding my way on using it.
I would to suggest a pair of features that hope you cand find helpful, or maybe there's already a way that i don't know:

- When you create a PING for buy 100@100 and you set (for example) 15% gain, when the PING is closed CAT create a PONG @ for selling 100@115....supposing that the price crash down until 50, your order stay stuck at 115 until the price recovery...then i have tio manually buy (again for example) 100@50 to lower my breakeven entry-price @ 75
Could be possible, or is there a way to allow CAT to recalculate by his own this average price and place the PONG at that price? That can be helpful when price goes in uptrend with our investments, otherwise the bot will work successfully only when the price goes up.

- In the windows "Orders and trades", when i have a PONG Order, fields already show Reference Price and Current Price...could be possible to add in the fields the voice "% difference" between Refenrence and value? Thats save us some time to make manual calculation on how much the difference is
Thanks!

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February 04, 2017, 03:07:47 PM
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I think he wanted to say that he is affected of this, but used the wrong translations of the german word.

I'm not sure about the rest of the sentence, but if you don't like errors, why did you use the beta and not just the stable version?  Huh
Beta version can always have bugs. you can't blame the dev for it as it should be obvious that something like this can happen.



1. yes that meaning

2. I have installed the beta because of a necessary reboot, CAT had to be closed and it requires consistently hours to get CAT working as is was before the reboot, - therefore restart of CAT shall be done (for me) so infrequently as possible.

And because it was time to restart the PC I took the new beta.

But you have a point there: in future I will never take beta. Cheesy
Learning from this mistake Wink Smiley
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February 04, 2017, 03:12:38 PM
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I think he wanted to say that he is affected of this, but used the wrong translations of the german word.

I'm not sure about the rest of the sentence, but if you don't like errors, why did you use the beta and not just the stable version?  Huh
Beta version can always have bugs. you can't blame the dev for it as it should be obvious that something like this can happen.



1. yes that meaning

2. I have installed the beta because of a necessary reboot, CAT had to be closed and it requires consistently hours to get CAT working as is was before the reboot, - therefore restart of CAT shall be done (for me) so infrequently as possible.

And because it was time to restart the PC I took the new beta.

But you have a point there: in future I will never take beta. Cheesy
Learning from this mistake Wink Smiley

Error could also occurs in official version.
Even best software with thousand of programmers have bug/errors.

Mine is not a bug is only a regression problem with an xml file from a previous version.
That is very different from a bug.
CAT works well even without fix if you use directly the 4.7 version.

But i think the solution i wrote you is very fast (edit the xml file) so you won't loose much time  Wink
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February 04, 2017, 04:03:04 PM
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After some initial doubt about how to get profit with this bot, maybe i'm finding my way on using it.
I would to suggest a pair of features that hope you cand find helpful, or maybe there's already a way that i don't know:

- When you create a PING for buy 100@100 and you set (for example) 15% gain, when the PING is closed CAT create a PONG @ for selling 100@115....supposing that the price crash down until 50, your order stay stuck at 115 until the price recovery...then i have tio manually buy (again for example) 100@50 to lower my breakeven entry-price @ 75
Could be possible, or is there a way to allow CAT to recalculate by his own this average price and place the PONG at that price? That can be helpful when price goes in uptrend with our investments, otherwise the bot will work successfully only when the price goes up.

- In the windows "Orders and trades", when i have a PONG Order, fields already show Reference Price and Current Price...could be possible to add in the fields the voice "% difference" between Refenrence and value? Thats save us some time to make manual calculation on how much the difference is
Thanks!



1 - CAT Creates a PONG For Any Trade (if you don't set MERGE Options). I'm working on some new option about Full/Partially filled orders.
If market Crash and you don't set any STOP LOSS, yes, order will stay stuck. So i think your solution is to put the STOP LOSS Parameter  Wink

2 - yes, good idea, i will try to add into 4.8 version

Thanks  Smiley
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February 04, 2017, 04:32:18 PM
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After some initial doubt about how to get profit with this bot, maybe i'm finding my way on using it.
I would to suggest a pair of features that hope you cand find helpful, or maybe there's already a way that i don't know:

- When you create a PING for buy 100@100 and you set (for example) 15% gain, when the PING is closed CAT create a PONG @ for selling 100@115....supposing that the price crash down until 50, your order stay stuck at 115 until the price recovery...then i have tio manually buy (again for example) 100@50 to lower my breakeven entry-price @ 75
Could be possible, or is there a way to allow CAT to recalculate by his own this average price and place the PONG at that price? That can be helpful when price goes in uptrend with our investments, otherwise the bot will work successfully only when the price goes up.

- In the windows "Orders and trades", when i have a PONG Order, fields already show Reference Price and Current Price...could be possible to add in the fields the voice "% difference" between Refenrence and value? Thats save us some time to make manual calculation on how much the difference is
Thanks!



1 - CAT Creates a PONG For Any Trade (if you don't set MERGE Options). I'm working on some new option about Full/Partially filled orders.
If market Crash and you don't set any STOP LOSS, yes, order will stay stuck. So i think your solution is to put the STOP LOSS Parameter  Wink

2 - yes, good idea, i will try to add into 4.8 version

Thanks  Smiley

Thanks for your answer, i'm happy that the point 2 could be a possible feature for next releases.
About point 1, if i set a stop loss parameter i could sell loosing some money.....with my solution, if the price goes down and i keep buying (having capital to buy more of course), i can lower my price and when the price restore i can sell without loosing money...
Maybe i'm wrong?
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February 04, 2017, 04:39:15 PM
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Thanks for your answer, i'm happy that the point 2 could be a possible feature for next releases.
About point 1, if i set a stop loss parameter i could sell loosing some money.....with my solution, if the price goes down and i keep buying (having capital to buy more of course), i can lower my price and when the price restore i can sell without loosing money...
Maybe i'm wrong?

are you talking about PING or PONG?
Because if we are talking about PING in dynamic mode there's no problem about price : if you don't set any limit or condition, price will be always create at Market Price, no problem is crashing or rising.

But if we are talking about PONG i don't understand your question.

Could you make a pratical example?
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February 04, 2017, 05:30:27 PM
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What is the difference between a Dynamic and Static trade?

Would be very nice if CAT had some context, mouse-hover help strings explaining the input fields because in most cases you have to guess and there is no documentation to speak of really.
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February 04, 2017, 05:39:53 PM
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What is the difference between a Dynamic and Static trade?

Would be very nice if CAT had some context, mouse-hover help strings explaining the input fields because in most cases you have to guess and there is no documentation to speak of really.

With static cat always sell and buy at the same price. With dynamic there are recalculations, limits, stop loss etc....
As you can see if you change mode from Dynamic to Static many options will disappear.

Why did you say there's no documentation?
What is this? : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507103.msg5590896#msg5590896

and you can always pm me for any doubt/question, you know that  Wink Wink
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February 04, 2017, 07:22:20 PM
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What is the difference between a Dynamic and Static trade?

Would be very nice if CAT had some context, mouse-hover help strings explaining the input fields because in most cases you have to guess and there is no documentation to speak of really.

With static cat always sell and buy at the same price. With dynamic there are recalculations, limits, stop loss etc....
As you can see if you change mode from Dynamic to Static many options will disappear.

Thanks for the explanation, and fast reply as always :-)

But, none of the options change when I switch between Dynamic and Static when I use the Ping Order Creator.

Why did you say there's no documentation?
What is this? : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507103.msg5590896#msg5590896

and you can always pm me for any doubt/question, you know that  Wink Wink

Sure. I prefer to post here, since then others can benefit from the answers you provide.

You are right, there is documentation. I actually searched through that and didn't find an explanation to the static/dynamic question. The documentation often does not go in depth on definitions etc. It would be useful to have more of that. Best would be if there was help in the app itself.
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February 04, 2017, 07:34:46 PM
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But, none of the options change when I switch between Dynamic and Static when I use the Ping Order Creator.

Yes because some options could also works in static mode.

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February 05, 2017, 08:38:39 AM
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Is this completely automated bot, where we dont have to do anything and just to select pair of altcoins to trade
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February 05, 2017, 10:05:19 AM
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Is this completely automated bot, where we dont have to do anything and just to select pair of altcoins to trade

You should know what is it PingPong trading. CAT will create orders by pingpong system.
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February 05, 2017, 11:14:12 AM
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Hello. I didn't find in the manual. Please explain to me, what is the means in the market limitations

Min PX Unit?
Min QTY Unit? I guess that is quantity of the coins.
Min TOT order?
PX/QTY Dec?


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February 05, 2017, 11:23:23 AM
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Hello. I didn't find in the manual. Please explain to me, what is the means in the market limitations

Min PX Unit?
Min QTY Unit? I guess that is quantity of the coins.
Min TOT order?
PX/QTY Dec?




These are lowebound limits.
You can go lower than these limits.
PX/QTY dec is the number of decima allowed in the market.

Min PX and Min Qty is the min amount in terms of price and qty. For example, on a market with 4 DEC PX then min Qty Unit will be 0.0001
Min Tot Order is the Min Value you can have multiplying QTY x PRICE.
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February 05, 2017, 11:24:10 AM
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- % Min Gain have his meaning for each market.
Ex :
LTC/BTC
Best Sell : 0,025
Best Buy : 0,0249
Difference is : 0,0001
% Difference is : 0,4%
 
DOGE/BTC
Best Sell : 0,00000111
Best Buy : 0,00000110
Difference is : 0,00000001
% Difference is : 0,9%

So, choosing 1% for LTC/BTC could be a good idea, choosing 1% For DOGE/BTC could be a bad idea.

Please explain, why is the LTC/BTC better for choosing 1%? I see that profit on the DOGE/BTC is more than 0.5%
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February 05, 2017, 05:13:14 PM
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First of all I would like to say thanks to beta testers who help me find some problems (even not introduced in 4.7 version  Grin Grin )


Starting update the guide according to 4.7 Version.
After finish i will release 4.7 Version.


- Execute A Full Automatic Backup Every X Minutes. You can choose to save all your open markets parameter and orders in automatic mode inside the Folder <EXCHANGE>\AutoBackups every X Minutes.
- No More Than 1 Api Call Every X Milliseconds. Useful when you want to set a limit to the number of API Calls that will be performed by the CAT Api System during a certain amount of time.
This is very useful when your connection have problems and all markets are in Lookup Status : when connection will return active all pending request will be processed at the same time causing a possible flood to the exchange, you can avoid this behaviour using this option. Or you can use this option for exchanges who give limit like "No More than 60 calls / Minutes". In that case you will set this option to 1000 Milliseconds and you won't have any ban problems.
- Limit CAT Log Elements to X : A CAT Log Elements is a message composed by 1 or more lines. With this option any logs will have a maximum number of messages to be shown. When limit is reach old messages will be removed (FIFO queue). Market Log Files on Disk (In folder <EXCHANGE>\ExchangeLogs and <EXCHANGE>\MarketLogs) are not affected by this option. Set a Very high value could cause RAM saturation, suggested value is 100-300.
- Print Api Call Result to Api Console. Useful to print and look at Api responses. Usually used when a debug log is needed
- Reproduce a Sound when a Ping-Pong is complete. You will hear a "dling-dling" sound for every completed ping-pong.
- Make a Post To URL When a Ping-Pong Is Completed. When this option is activated a POST Call will be performed and data about ping-pong will be sent to a REST Page.
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