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July 12, 2017, 07:23:28 PM
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Hi Sampey,

I'm loving the new version of C.A.T, managed to get set up again - took a while

I'm wondering - is it possible for us to change the default values of ping-pong parameters - or do we have to use presets?

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July 12, 2017, 07:43:47 PM
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Hi Sampey,

I'm loving the new version of C.A.T, managed to get set up again - took a while

I'm wondering - is it possible for us to change the default values of ping-pong parameters - or do we have to use presets?

Thanks,
Starmman

Actually you need to re-set the preset.
But i could try to change that value in the coming versions  Wink

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July 13, 2017, 03:01:51 AM
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can I test the system?
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July 13, 2017, 03:43:16 AM
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That's why I'm looking for specifics.

for you as pro Trader in the real world ^^ ....
sampey quoted my global gain with 0.2 btc


buy low, sell high with min 50% gain and i had spend on all 891 btc pairs on yobit the min ammount of 10021 Satoshi
"normaly 10020" but These aditional Satoshi make sense if there are any

"roundings"   < right english word ? oO

happend...
that global gain was during +/- 4 days,  i expect i had maybe a bit more luck in tha Moment. but yeah Overall i got my Money back....




for the reason that i talk to a professional Trader which is atleast 3x6 years old
i doesnt Need to explicite write, that the standart Settings wouldnt work in that case ...


acording to the high number of trading pairs => 891
a full  lookup isnt run each 40 seconds ...
.. in my case each 45 Minutes, and yeah ..  even this is afterall maybe toooo fast for C.A.T
with the time a lot of stuff acumulate to be done each time.

and this isnt running on my Desktop Computer or Smartphone ... 
for the case that i try to avoid possible lags while running the bot and watching Pornos at the same time
C.A.T runs on a dedicated Server with 8 Cores .. "could be less"
and 16gb Memory *recommend*


bla bla bla
bla bla
bla ^^





if you are interested, i offer coin creation Services. more Infos about my work
@ https://github.com/Tillkoeln  or directly https://github.com/Tillkoeln/x/releases
or https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-x4N9JU3Aoi8RyBlPQc75Q or http://www.Twitter.com/Tillkoeln
it is allways a pleasure to talk to experienced Real life Traders with high knowledge on Software Systems used in her Business.



or simply click  the link inside my signature ^^ 
if that isnt enough. we can find a way to "proof" any other stuff which you are miss to beeing "proofed"



:-)

kindly regards
TillKoeln



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[/quote]
sampey quoted my global gain with 0.2 btc


buy low, sell high with min 50% gain and i had spend on all 891 btc pairs on yobit the min ammount of 10021 Satoshi
"normaly 10020" but These aditional Satoshi make sense if there are any"



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Help me understand if my maths is wrong, but 10021 satoshis x 891 markets is 8,928,711 satoshi's or 0.089 bitcoins.

If your global gain was 0.200 bitcoin, you made 122% on your portfolio in ~ 4 days ? Is my maths wrong TillKoeln?
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July 13, 2017, 06:00:54 AM
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this is correct.


but the biggest part are overal 4 coins out of all btc pairs...   4/891

this has nothing to say, and doesnt guarante that this happend a second time...



but my "idea" was basicly just to set on all markets some order, 
for the reason,   that i know myself ...  if i Need some Satoshi for anything other  like "Pizza delivery" ..  or similar

i have sold a lot of times in the past any random coins in some sell orders which are placed
by someone who "maybe" done this months ago ...  ^^


in that Moment i doesnt care about the Price,  i Need the few Dollar for the Pizza Taxi.





and yep .. you cant imagine how much "dumps"  i catch on markets which arent active for longer time ..
and you just Need to click through These "maybe" +200 Markets on yobit with trades neraby to Zero in the past 24 Hours..

i would say that aprox 30% Show you some coins dumped for less then normal
and 30% contains trades where user buy some coins with a spread higher then 100%



:-)

but please ...
this isnt a legit strategy... 
....
..
.


if you think about to order C.A.T Bot,  feel free to call my Name to sampey
if i remind correct, i receive in that case 0.05 btc from your purchase

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


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July 13, 2017, 06:20:41 AM
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this is correct.
but please ...
this isnt a legit strategy...  
....
..
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if you think about to order C.A.T Bot,  feel free to call my Name to sampey
if i remind correct, i receive in that case 0.05 btc from your purchase

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



I have the  Bot Myself TillKoeln, but i am like a neanderthol trying to figure out what a hammer is. so far alls i have done is smash a few rocks with it and lost some of my fingers from the ricochet...

I know its the downtrend, but i have had my initial learning portfolio go from 0.085 btc to 0.071 btc
only wanted to make 2% per week with this bot. ill get there
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July 13, 2017, 11:18:55 AM
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Hi Sampey,

I'm loving the new version of C.A.T, managed to get set up again - took a while

I'm wondering - is it possible for us to change the default values of ping-pong parameters - or do we have to use presets?

Thanks,
Starmman

Actually you need to re-set the preset.
But i could try to change that value in the coming versions  Wink
That would be awesome if you could - even if its an XML file and not in the UI.

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July 13, 2017, 12:50:39 PM
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July 13, 2017, 12:52:58 PM
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when this happens, i usually a temporary problem on exchange.

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July 13, 2017, 02:03:08 PM
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I am agree with winnway.
Lack of good examples for settings it's a big problem of cat.

For example you could look to the gunbot docs with charts on market and description of what and how it work.
But there absolutely nothing in cat docs about it.
Simple describing of each input box useless, for sure.
 90% of settings users are not used, just because those such of settings don't need in 99% time of trading.

I would suggest, that 3 examples of cat settings would cover most of time for mostly all of users.

1. Example for pumping/growing/bull market.
Show typical chart of pumping market (for example btc/usd at last half of year), show setting that allows to make gains in this market and show approximate gain for the portfolio in this case.

2. Example for dumping/bearish market.
Show typical chart of dumping market (for example btc/usd or eth/usb at last month), show setting that allows to make gains in this market and show approximate gain for the portfolio in this case.

3. Example for flat/low volatility market.
Show typical chart of low volatility market (for example usd/eur or some kind of btc/doge in last year). Do the same as before.

Just for this setting you could show chart like this :
https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/59677e86909fc/
Green arrow - buy orders, red - sell orders.
It's what my cat done in last few days in one of markets.
For this style of flat trading you need to set low limit, the high limit for pings, gain level for pongs, ping/pong step level, etc. Nothing hard, but as a template allow to cover any flat market.

So, for 80% of all time, you just could change preset for some market depend on it state and continue have profits instead of thinking on what need to be changed in settings.
It's a peace-of-cake comparing to the time hours spending for product development, but help the users a lot.

Example with TillKoeln when he setup 891 markets for catch big pump in low volatile coins it's a relly such weak example of cat usage as an automatical trading so I even don't want to hear such stories. It's a not conceived algo, just a hope for big pump and gain because of it.  Nothing better that manual buy of same coins, plate limit sell orders and wait when they completed. nothing about automatical trading.

Good trader don't require big pumps to make profit, it just need any kind of volatility for make gain. I believe winnway wants to inform this in his original questions.
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July 13, 2017, 03:03:32 PM
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@harlan

i Agree with you.
But winnway had a different approach from what you suggest :

- He came here, probably without even reading the guide/tips & tricks section and asks for "universal parameter"/"always working parameter", nothing related to your specific example.
- My answer about your poing 1-2-3 is : yes i can give you example, but you must consider that CAT have so lot parameters that possible combination are exponential, this is why i prefer to give direct support via PM : because any customer have his needs.

The fact that few people write here about support is because they directly write me via PM, and i think my support is good, usually responses are immediate, about suggestions and troubleshootings.

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90% of settings users are not used, just because those such of settings don't need in 99% time of trading.

Correct is "90% of settings are not used BY ME". That could be ok, but any CAT parameter is born from user request.
I can count a lot of different strategies from my customers. I can ensure you that 100% of CAT parameters are used.

And the most important aspect about my project :
I'm an only one person, i'm not a team, i'm not a software house.
I have my private life but despite of that i'm usually sleeping less than 4 hours/day to continue gives support/code new features.
I must choose how to use my "Cat-Time".

- More than 95% Of CAT active customers are asking me for improvements/new features.
- Near 100% of customers directly PM me when they need some suggestions. Suggestions like "I need to do ...... How can i do it?"/"It is possible to....."

I could start writing guide about any CAT parameter combination, but results will be
- I will quit coding
- I will write an enormous guide and result will be pm like "I Read your guide but can you explain me that thing......"/"Guide is too big, i just need to know how to......"

Yes i agree that it would be very good to have
- A CAT site
- A CAT Forum
- A Developing Team
- A Support Center
- A Guide Center

BUT, this is not possible, so actually you have 1 Person who's coding this program since 2013 without stopping and trying to give the best support as possible and the best product as possible.

Hope you appreciate my effort.


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- He came here, probably without even reading the guide/tips & tricks section and asks for "universal parameter"/"always working parameter", nothing related to your specific example

I have "always working paremeter" setup which will give you profit for all time exchange is working.  Without any matter what is going on the market.
It need worked cat, working exchange and at least some trading volume on the market and of course some money for trade.
Single shortage of it - low-profit level which only up to few percent of the portfolio at a month.
So it exists for sure Wink

About universal parameters - I believe if instead of just rejecting his question you give him answers like I wrote in above message - he will agree. Its normal.
But you fall into extremes, with short answer: no examples.
It's a like a coming to shop, viewing price for item but no chance to see or test it and don't have any specs.
As a customer, I absolutely agree with him that before purchase it is normal to get some specific number/details/test period that allow to verify product.

Great feedbacks(that you mention) it's a nothing.
It's a only view of other people.
If you look to sport car, you can get tons of feedbacks that toyota is great, but is absolutely nothing comparing to porsche.
If you know what I mean;)


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Correct is "90% of settings are not used BY ME". That could be ok, but any CAT parameter is born from user request.
I can count a lot of different strategies from my customers. I can ensure you that 100% of CAT parameters are used.

You could insert statistics grabber to your application and see that it's a wrong.
I could give you 100% confidence that 90% of boxes inside the application is just for tick that such feature is present.
But it didn't do anything useful about trading and giving more or less profits.
It's a good that you follow user request, but I think you also know that many times users just don't know what they need:)
Now it's a exact same situation - a lot of features change the behavior of application, but it's a nothing to the trading algorithm. It's a like a button "I want pizza" in the    
rudder of your car. Someone (lest say 1 person from 1000) could use it once per year, but it still useless thing and naturally should be done by different things.


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I could start writing guide about any CAT parameter combination, but results will be
- I will quit coding
- I will write an enormous guide and result will be pm like "I Read your guide but can you explain me that thing......"/"Guide is too big, i just need to know how to......"

You need to have the balance between coding/testing/docs/support.
It's a natural way of any software product, no matter you are alone or team, it's a hobby or full time project.
I think spending some hours to increase the quality of manual will save a lot of more time during support.
Personally, I use not only your product in crypto world. Almost all are hobby projects.
But projects with great documentation even don't require me to ask anything at support. It's a real life fact.


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July 13, 2017, 08:48:27 PM
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Thanks for your Feedback  Wink

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July 14, 2017, 02:27:10 PM
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I also get these errors:
- Error write XML file when I click on file->save or automatic backup

- Can not login C-Cex

I will sent file log to you by sms

Please check and fix it
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July 14, 2017, 02:47:14 PM
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I also get these errors:

- Can not login C-Cex
C-CEX



I will sent file log to you by sms

Please check and fix it


yes, same problem with C-Cex, same message about that from CAT

tried to login with no success  Sad

I didn't trade there for a long time, so noticed the problem only recently, on CAT 5.0

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July 14, 2017, 02:49:34 PM
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Hello. Does C.A.T support ETH/USD and ETH/BTC on cex.io?
I want buy C.A.T, can I recive some trail for test (maybe not for live trade)?
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Hello. Does C.A.T support ETH/USD and ETH/BTC on cex.io?
I want buy C.A.T, can I recive some trail for test (maybe not for live trade)?


hi, yes CAT support any pair
But there's no demo version sorry. You can pm me to have more info about CAT  Wink

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July 14, 2017, 03:15:16 PM
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About C-CEX : i'm able to login, but exchange is TERRIBLY Slow

About XML auto-save backup i will check

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July 15, 2017, 09:55:23 AM
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Hi everyone. I suppose I am the latest newbie around. After 10 days of using CAT I would like to share my impressions with you. I have read the manual, I have read the tips and tricks and, believe it or not, I have read the 190 pages of posts in this thread. Some pages were really boring some others were quite funny, but I have now a very wide picture of what is CAT, how it works and how it can help you to trade cryptocoins and profit from it.

I intend to write 3 posts with my conclussions. This first post will focus on all the good things about this bot and his developer, which are many, and the other two will focus on some improvement areas that I would like to suggest. Please @Sampey, do not take my second and third posts as criticism to your product because my only intent is just to make suggestions on how to turn a good product into a very good one. No more, no less. Second post will deal on usability and robustness and third post will deal with performance, i.e. profitability.

First thing to say is that CAT is great piece of software. It is one of the best bots around and it shows. A poor product would not stay 4 years in the market and would not have hundreds of customers with so many positive feed-back. Basically it does what it promises. CAT is an excellent bot to harvest docens of cryptocoins simultaneously in multiple exchanges for specific markets that show certain characteristics: sideways markets with a reasonable volume, with regular and multiple highs and lows (supports and resistences) which are sufficiently spread from each other and wich are hit, ideally, several times a day. No other bot would beat CAT in doing this job. In my third post I will go deeper in other types of markets (trending markets and short range markets) where CAT has some more difficulties to obtain a profit.

Second, I have to say that Sampey is absolutely great supporting his product. Fast response, always listening to the needs of his customers, always ready to come with a solution to your your problem and very patient when people come to this forum and, sometimes with not very good manners, critisize CAT or the way he is managing the development of his product. My respect.

To be continued...

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