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December 30, 2016, 08:54:48 AM
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Because one thing is the gain expressed as percentage.
Another thing is the gain expressed as currency.

I am asking because sometimes the "% GAIN" column (in the gain tab) is below the guaranteed min gain, for example "0.444%"

Also I don't understand how the TOTAL GAIN can go backward


Sometimes there are rouding routines that could change a little the % Gain.
Rounding sometimes is needed.
There's also a rounding on fees (also on exchange side) and when we are talking about micro orders it is possible that fees are higher than the gain.
But this happens on very little orders.

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December 30, 2016, 09:32:32 AM
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hi, what is the actual price for this soft Sampey
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December 30, 2016, 09:37:16 AM
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hi, what is the actual price for this soft Sampey

Sum 0.5 BTC (Core Lifetime License) and all the API you wants to get.
Then divide by 2 (-50% Discount)

and you will have the total price




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December 30, 2016, 04:45:44 PM
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During 2017 i will definitely change the CAT PRice list, but actually the 50% Discount is still active. Don't miss this opportunity  Wink Wink

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December 30, 2016, 06:54:51 PM
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The log tab shows a lot of
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Try To Create new Order (From Pool) PING : BUY 0.1@1.04641 (Dynamic)
2016-12-30 13:52:23| OCR : Create Order (From Pool) Error From Btc-e : It is not enough USD for purchase

although the pool shows "0.00000". Why does C.A.T. try to create such orders that are more than what's in the pool?
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December 30, 2016, 06:56:15 PM
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Sometimes there are rouding routines that could change a little the % Gain.

And how can total gain decrease from 0.00007 to 0.00004?
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December 31, 2016, 01:08:43 AM
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The log tab shows a lot of
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Try To Create new Order (From Pool) PING : BUY 0.1@1.04641 (Dynamic)
2016-12-30 13:52:23| OCR : Create Order (From Pool) Error From Btc-e : It is not enough USD for purchase

although the pool shows "0.00000". Why does C.A.T. try to create such orders that are more than what's in the pool?

If C.A.T. try to create an order, probably the BUY pool is not 0.

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And how can total gain decrease from 0.00007 to 0.00004?

You need to check your ping-pong.
If % GAIN is not > than BuyFee + SellFee you will have a loss.

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December 31, 2016, 01:48:51 PM
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If C.A.T. try to create an order, probably the BUY pool is not 0.

1. Is the pool 0.0 or not?



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You need to check your ping-pong.If % GAIN is not > than BuyFee + SellFee you will have a loss.

2. Min % Gain is > than BuyFee + SellFee, so why do I have a loss?

3. Could you also address the question https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507103.msg17340800#msg17340800
about where I adjust what the minimum spread must be?
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December 31, 2016, 01:54:38 PM
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If C.A.T. try to create an order, probably the BUY pool is not 0.

1. Is the pool 0.0 or not?



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You need to check your ping-pong.If % GAIN is not > than BuyFee + SellFee you will have a loss.

2. Min % Gain is > than BuyFee + SellFee, so why do I have a loss?

3. Could you also address the question https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507103.msg17340800#msg17340800
about where I adjust what the minimum spread must be?

1 - Yes, i think 0.00000 is only a visualization problem, there are other number after the 5th zero : ex 0.00000XXX

2 - You need to check the % Gain from the Gain Tabs. As i said sometimes you could set 0.5 % Gain, but due to rounding routines have for example 0.45%

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Where do I adjust what the spread must be? It seems that C.A.T. takes the "Min % Guaranteed Gain" as the minimum spread. But then why is there an additional input field "Create Ping orders only if Market spread is"?

CAT use the Min % Gain as spread for the PONG Orders. It use the REFERENCE PRICE (PING PRICE) vs the Calculate Price.
The other option works for the PING Creation and it works using the buy/sell market spread.


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December 31, 2016, 01:55:13 PM
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I'm going out.I'll come back tomottow night.

Happy new year to all the crypto community  Smiley

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December 31, 2016, 02:19:24 PM
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1 - Yes, i think 0.00000 is only a visualization problem, there are other number after the 5th zero : ex 0.00000XXX

So why does C.A.T. try to place a BUY order for 0.1 EUR having only 0.00000X USD?

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2 - You need to check the % Gain from the Gain Tabs. As i said sometimes you could set 0.5 % Gain, but due to rounding routines have for example 0.45%

You can see the % GAIN in the pic I posted. It's > 0.5%. So why does the total gain go down? EDIT: I found the reason. I didn't sort by TimeStamp.
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January 01, 2017, 11:21:45 AM
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Sampey, could you please add an option so that pings can be 0.5% (or whatever the value is) lower than the current market value?

So something like

Mode->Price Limit-> Never *PING *OVER *TopOfCurrentOrderBook Price *MINUS *0.5%

It also would be nice to have

Mode->Price Limit-> Never *PING *OVER Your last *PONG.
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January 01, 2017, 11:23:20 AM
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Sampey, how can I know how much BTC I have for manual PING creations? How can I know whether the BTC amount on my exchange account is free or being used by existing pingpong routines?
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January 01, 2017, 02:14:06 PM
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So why does C.A.T. try to place a BUY order for 0.1 EUR having only 0.00000X USD?

Probably you have the option ALWAYS ADEQUATE QTY TO MIN QTY (If Needed).

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You can see the % GAIN in the pic I posted. It's > 0.5%. So why does the total gain go down? EDIT: I found the reason. I didn't sort by TimeStamp.

In the image you show me there are also gain at 0.444 that it's not > 0.5%
If you want you can send me your GAIN Log and i will check for you.

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Mode->Price Limit-> Never *PING *OVER *TopOfCurrentOrderBook Price *MINUS *0.5%

It also would be nice to have

Mode->Price Limit-> Never *PING *OVER Your last *PONG.

Actually i think you are able to create any rule with the Limit Editor.

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Sampey, how can I know how much BTC I have for manual PING creations? How can I know whether the BTC amount on my exchange account is free or being used by existing pingpong routines?

CAT show the Available amount. But you can't be sure that it's the real available amount.
For example, during a recalculation routine :

- Recalculation start
- Order Is Deleted
- Coins return available.
- You check for available and you find available the order delete amount <- (EXTERNAL ACTION)
- Order is recreated
- You check for available once again -> Then you have less amount.

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January 01, 2017, 09:49:41 PM
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Actually i think you are able to create any rule with the Limit Editor.

So how can I make the rule
Mode->Price Limit-> Never *PING *OVER *TopOfCurrentOrderBook Price *MINUS *0.5%

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CAT show the Available amount. But you can't be sure that it's the real available amount.

Could you please add an overview where we can see what C.A.T. thinks is in the portfolio?

So when I start with USD/BTC -> Ping SELL 100 USD, then C.A.T. would have 100 USD and 0 BTC in its pingpong portfolio, and after several pingpong trades we could look the stats and it would show 101 USD and 0.0001 BTC or so. That way we could verify whether C.A.T. works properly.

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Probably you have the option ALWAYS ADEQUATE QTY TO MIN QTY (If Needed).

Yes, C.A.T. tries to place orders of 0.0000 quantity and then rounds them up to 0.1. Doesn't seem a good practice.
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January 02, 2017, 07:15:10 AM
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Mode->Price Limit-> Never *PING *OVER *TopOfCurrentOrderBook Price *MINUS *0.5%

Ping/Pong limit are create against your last price, not market prices.
Your rules has not reason to exists :

Mode->Price Limit-> Never *PING *OVER *TopOfCurrentOrderBook Price *MINUS *0.5%

This will result in an order impossible to complete : your order will never be on top, so your pong will never be executed.
Your target it to stay in front of the top orders book, not constantly back (inside the order book)
with this rule you will be constantly back.


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Could you please add an overview where we can see what C.A.T. thinks is in the portfolio?

Data are returned from the API "MyBalance" that is needed in any exchange to let C.A.T. run.
I don't calculate anything. I only put the values Available/Held (if returned) in my internal structure.

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Yes, C.A.T. tries to place orders of 0.0000 quantity and then rounds them up to 0.1. Doesn't seem a good practice.

Well it's not 0.0000 it's 0.0000XXXX (because Pool is not empty), but exchanges you're trading on doesn't wants more than 4 decimal places, so inside the log is printed 0.0000.
some people wants to adeguate the order to the minimal qty.
You have an option, so you can choose what to do.
If you think it's not a good practice, disable the Always adequate option.

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January 02, 2017, 02:15:49 PM
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This will result in an order impossible to complete : your order will never be on top, so your pong will never be executed.

That's not true. If I set LookUp to 30 minutes or so, it can very well be that it gets executed.

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I don't calculate anything. I only put the values Available/Held (if returned) in my internal structure.

Wait, so it's not possible to be on two BTC markets (e.g. EUR/BTC, LTC/BTC) or (BTC->USD and USD->BTC) at the same time because one algo will compete with the other for available BTC?
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January 02, 2017, 03:01:27 PM
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That's not true. If I set LookUp to 30 minutes or so, it can very well be that it gets executed.

No, every lookup C.A.T. will re-calculate all the values, so your "*TopOfCurrentOrderBook Price *MINUS *0.5%" will be updated with current values.


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Wait, so it's not possible to be on two BTC markets (e.g. EUR/BTC, LTC/BTC) or (BTC->USD and USD->BTC) at the same time because one algo will compete with the other for available BTC?

If you use 100% Of your balance yes. But i think that any person who use CAT decide to use a percentage (for example 0.1 BTC) on 1 Market and then another quantity on another market.
There are person who trade on over 100 market without problems.
C.A.T. use only the Amount you set in your PING Orders : if your total ping amount is 0.1 BTC, CAT won't use more than this. Only the rounding routines could use a little more of your portfolio to adequate the order calculation. But you can disable this option.

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January 04, 2017, 04:27:27 AM
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Another feature that would be nice on the generator page is the ability to generate multiple orders at once. for example to place 50 orders at a time from 0.00001000 to 0.00002000 with x amount of bitcoin/altcoin
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January 04, 2017, 07:17:44 AM
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Another feature that would be nice on the generator page is the ability to generate multiple orders at once. for example to place 50 orders at a time from 0.00001000 to 0.00002000 with x amount of bitcoin/altcoin

Amen!  Yes, this would be great feature!  You must be referring to having multiple market tabs open, right?  Would be a great feature!

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