LoyceV
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Haha, another noob who tries to abuse the trust system. I wouldn't even call it abuse: they haven't earned 10 Merit, so they won't influence DT1-voting. All they do is change their own view of the Trust system. I'd say the Trust system is perfectly capable of handling this, it simply doesn't matter. It's not the first time I've met newbies, which are created for the visibility of support in the trust lists, support for flags, etc.. Flag abuse could be a thing, even though it doesn't matter for DT, if someone creates 30 sockpuppets to Support or Oppose a Flag, it does stand out by the number for anyone who checks the Flag.
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Rux
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November 01, 2020, 09:47:30 AM Merited by tmfp (2), owlcatz (1) |
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Timelord2067 at the time merit was introduced, i was rebellious lol and made a crypto.ba forum to teach people about crypto, and we did good job, still doing it. there no single evidence that i sold it, except i was so high when i asked that kid "would you buy mine" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) i was so impressed that someone would buy account that i had to ask would he buy? after that zepher (god rest his soul) gave me that pesky red flag and i tried many times, he was so angry and confusing i left like a bad man and started my own forum based on balkan languages. and icing on the cake, when my community started to tell me, cmmon lets prove you didnt sold your account, i came here and i saw MERIT?! oook?! i didnt realised that is something big, then i tipped 20 merits per my community memebers, and that way i killed my self lol thanks @nutildah you are only one who belives me! and yea, im balkan guy, and i have 900+ members on crypto.ba and 300+ members on discord that can prove im RUX ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) from what i have understand, i have "yellow" flag now, and that can be removed if someone give me positive feedback? I was a close friend of Zepher. I believe you after reading the threads. I'm sorry, but even if someone gives you a green trust, it will still show his yellow as long as he remains in DT2. Don't worry about it. Zepher was a bit over-protective of the forum for a period of time, and he did it well. Sorry you sort of ended up being collateral damage over joking, but sarcasm isn't recognized in writing really. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Cheers! Btw, I have a yellow mark too, but I wear it with honor! Edit - left you a neutral, hope it helps. Just stay out of trouble and don't leave, that's silly. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Thank you man, it means a lot from a crew like you guys. When you say like that, will wear my mark with honor too, in Zepher's honor!
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suchmoon
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November 01, 2020, 09:04:18 PM Merited by marlboroza (2) |
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For fuck's sake people, when will you stop adding account-buying and/or plagiarising dipshits into DT. How hard can it be?
~bill gator
Also ~ the other assorted sockpuppets too while you're at it. This is not fucking rocket surgery. One account per trust abuser should be enough if you really must have them.
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November 01, 2020, 09:20:14 PM |
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For fuck's sake people, when will you stop adding account-buying and/or plagiarising dipshits into DT. How hard can it be?
bill gator's judgement is Trusted by: 1. TECSHARE (Trust: +38 / =6 / -3) (939 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) 2. OgNasty (Trust: +76 / =4 / -5) (DT1! (4) 1038 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) 3. Spendulus (Trust: neutral) (352 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) 4. figmentofmyass (Trust: neutral) (DT1 (-5) 887 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) 5. Rmcdermott927 (Trust: +25 / =1 / -1) (DT1 (-1) 69 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) 6. BitcoinPenny (Trust: +44 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 746 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) 7. Thule (Trust: +0 / =2 / -12) (25 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) 8. The Pharmacist (Trust: +24 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (33) 2718 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) 9. eddie13 (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (10) 1022 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) 10. twiki (Trust: neutral) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) 11. The-One-Above-All (Trust: # +0 / =0 / -13) (56 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) 12. truth or dare (Trust: +0 / =4 / -4) (14 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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LoyceV
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November 01, 2020, 09:40:59 PM |
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Where is theymos looking? what does vycl87 do on this list? He meets the requirements, that's all. Other DT1-members have excluded him, so he can't influence DT2.
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marlboroza
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November 01, 2020, 09:49:48 PM |
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Where is theymos looking? what does vycl87 do on this list?
I think LoyceV should update trust viewer for this account: vycl87's judgement is Trusted by:
sockpuppets
Perhaps it is time for theymos to: However, I reserve the right to remove you and blacklist you from future selection if you engage in egregious and obvious abuse, or if multiple known alt accounts could be selected.
...which this is. I really hate to see some good names are not elected to DT1 because abusers are.
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suchmoon
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November 01, 2020, 10:00:47 PM |
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Other DT1-members have excluded him, so he can't influence DT2.
The way things are going, soon there will be no "other" DT1 members, only bounty hunters, sockpuppets, and sockpuppets of bounty hunters. Non-sockpuppeting users can't win against sockpuppets. #math
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nutildah
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November 01, 2020, 10:05:43 PM |
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Where is theymos looking? what does vycl87 do on this list? He meets the requirements, that's all. Other DT1-members have excluded him, so he can't influence DT2. I could have sworn entry to DT1 required being included by at least one other DT1 member, but I don't see it written here: I will periodically (maybe every month) be reconstructing the default trust list to include everyone who matches these criteria: - If rank was determined solely using earned merit, then you must be of at least Member rank. - You must have been online sometime within the last 3 days. - Your trust list must include at least 10 users, not including ~distrust entries. - You must not be banned or manually blacklisted from selection. - You must have posted sometime within the last 30 days. - You must have at least 10 people directly trusting you each with an earned merit of at least 10, not including merit you yourself sent. These "votes" are limited. - You must have at least 2 people directly trusting you with an earned merit of at least 250, not including merit you yourself sent. These "votes" are limited. So, my assumption has been incorrect this whole time? If so, it would explain why vycl87 is included.
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suchmoon
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November 01, 2020, 10:17:00 PM |
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So, my assumption has been incorrect this whole time?
Yes. 2x250-merit and 8x10-merit "includers" make the user eligible for the lottery, regardless of the status of the "includers" (could be scammers/sockpuppets/anything).
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icopress
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November 01, 2020, 10:23:19 PM Last edit: November 02, 2020, 12:14:39 AM by icopress |
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What is this rule for then? - You must not be banned or manually blacklisted from selection. It doesn't fit in my head anyway ... Is it so difficult to view the list of new members of the DT before publishing? Thinking out loud..
Yeah, obviously A-Bolt and WhiteManWhite are just victims .... I emphasized directly linked accounts
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LoyceV
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November 02, 2020, 07:00:29 AM |
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I think LoyceV should update trust viewer for this account: vycl87's judgement is Trusted by:
sockpuppets I can't, I have to wait for next Saturday's Trust data dump. Yeah, obviously A-Bolt and WhiteManWhite are just victims .... I emphasized directly linked accounts If someone got voted into DT1 by using sockpuppets, you should open a topic with evidence in Meta. When I did, theymos posted this: After some investigation, this is a circle of 58 accounts, most of which have 10+ merit. ~ They're all now excluded from the DT selection process, so if the goal was to manipulate DT, someone blew ~580 sMerit in order to ultimately fail doing so.
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Timelord2067
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November 02, 2020, 07:47:29 PM Last edit: November 03, 2020, 04:15:09 AM by Timelord2067 |
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@suchmoon:
Now do you understand how harmful the trade in accounts (no matter how noble you personally perceive the cause to be Bruno) here in this Forum is?
If a user has an equal number of people who are DT1 trust them and distrust them (as was the case with Lauda just recently) shouldn't they then be DT2 (0) - (as was the case with Lauda) and their trust feedback (both positive and negative show up alongside other DT1/2 trust feedback (as was the case with Lauda)?
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LoyceV
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November 02, 2020, 08:19:23 PM |
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If a user has an equal number of people who are DT1 trust them and distrust them (as was the case with Lauda just recently) shouldn't they then be DT2 (0) - (as was the case with Lauda) and their trust feedback (both positive and negative show up alongside other DT1/2 trust feedback (as was the case with Lauda)? Yes. Unless some of the DT1's are excluded, in which case they can only vote for DT1 but can't vote for DT2.
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Timelord2o67
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November 02, 2020, 08:47:03 PM |
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Yes. Unless some of the DT1's are excluded, in which case they can only vote for DT1 but can't vote for DT2.
I'm just on a short break at work, this user has one of each: https://loyce.club/trust/2020-10-31_Sat_04.09h/162384.html but their trust feedback (even with ;dt ) isn't showing up.
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LoyceV
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November 02, 2020, 09:22:17 PM |
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Two days ago, he was on DT2: But DT1 has changed, and eddie13 is no longer on DT1.
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eddie13
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November 02, 2020, 10:20:27 PM |
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Oh darn.. Am I in trouble?
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Chancellor on Brink of Second Bailout for Banks
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Timelord2o67
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November 02, 2020, 10:35:04 PM |
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But DT1 has changed, and eddie13 is no longer on DT1. I hadn't noticed that. Makes sense ... (How much to subscribe to the "live" trust viewer instead of the free weekly update?) 😎
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