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August 14, 2023, 05:26:56 PM
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I do not know if the Indian team is in bad form at the moment or if they just do not take the West Indies team seriously. Perhaps they thought the West Indies is not a strong team and they took things for granted.


look like indian team lost his form. after winning two consecutive matches they should win the last match to win the series but they lost un expectedly. WI which was totally out of form win last match very easily. 166 target was not easy to chase as India has top bowling both spin and pace. WI top orders batsmens are very dangerous and if they set they will score high runs and this happen In the last match where Indian bowlers failed to take wickets.

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Anyhow this T20 series defeat may badly impact the Indian cause in the upcoming Asia Cup and World Cup as the team morale will be down after this defeat.

Indian team should learn lesson from this series and should select experience player for Asia cup. No doubt many young players has ability to prove himself but they have not enough experience to face international players. If virat Kohli and other experience players was in the series i hope the conditions would be different.

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August 14, 2023, 06:16:51 PM
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I do not know if the Indian team is in bad form at the moment or if they just do not take the West Indies team seriously. Perhaps they thought the West Indies is not a strong team and they took things for granted.


look like indian team lost his form. after winning two consecutive matches they should win the last match to win the series but they lost un expectedly. WI which was totally out of form win last match very easily. 166 target was not easy to chase as India has top bowling both spin and pace. WI top orders batsmens are very dangerous and if they set they will score high runs and this happen In the last match where Indian bowlers failed to take wickets.

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Anyhow this T20 series defeat may badly impact the Indian cause in the upcoming Asia Cup and World Cup as the team morale will be down after this defeat.

Indian team should learn lesson from this series and should select experience player for Asia cup. No doubt many young players has ability to prove himself but they have not enough experience to face international players. If virat Kohli and other experience players was in the series i hope the conditions would be different.
You are absolutely right, much can be expected of young players, but it is a matter of time. The experience of young players is much less compared to the experience of older players so one can never expect good things from young players facing international players. India has always ruled the world of cricket. But that is possible only for old talented players

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August 14, 2023, 06:51:48 PM
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Just think of the previous match, similar scenario happened with the West Indies team. No player was able to add a wicket to their name and finally close to the winning Shubman Gill lost his wicket. There needs to be consistency in performance with both the teams. The same West Indies team defended India with the target score of 149 runs in the first match taking 9 wickets and the same team struggled to take a single wicket in the fourth T20 match. So we can't point bowlers as the reason for the loss of the final match. Compromised performance is the possible way to keep the winning.
Whatever we say in the final match of this series, West Indies gave a great performance in batting and bowling due to which they were able to beat India by 8 wickets in the final match. We have noticed some obvious mistakes in terms of captaincy, if Hardik Pandya could have made some bowling changes in time then the result of the match could have been different.

A 165-run win against West Indies is possible if economical bowling is done. We shouldn't have any doubts about the bowling line-up of the Indian team as they fielded the best bowling XI but the bad thing is that they did not bowl according to the plan due to which they did not succeed in restricting the West Indies to 165 runs.

The sooner India forgets the West Indies tour series, the sooner they can prepare for the Asia Cup. I don't think West Indies should focus on the Asia Cup now after reading about what went wrong on their tour.

I definitely think that India should have given a bigger target for West Indies. The start was really bad for India. Both of the openers were not able to do basically anything. And I also expected better performance from the Captain Hardik Pandya.  I definitely think the target could have been something better. But at the same time, I also agree that the bowling performance of India was not good as well.  It seems like in the last decider match. India failed to perform in both batting and bowling. West Indies also gave India extra 11 runs.

Anyway, the batting performance of West Indies was really good. They started well and it was also good to see that one opening batsmen was there till the end and made sure that West Indies win the match. I don’t want India to actually think about this too much as they were experimenting anyway. That’s the best way they will be able to prepare for the Asia cup.

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August 15, 2023, 02:54:46 AM
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I definitely think that India should have given a bigger target for West Indies. The start was really bad for India. Both of the openers were not able to do basically anything. And I also expected better performance from the Captain Hardik Pandya.  I definitely think the target could have been something better. But at the same time, I also agree that the bowling performance of India was not good as well.  It seems like in the last decider match. India failed to perform in both batting and bowling. West Indies also gave India extra 11 runs.

Anyway, the batting performance of West Indies was really good. They started well and it was also good to see that one opening batsmen was there till the end and made sure that West Indies win the match. I don’t want India to actually think about this too much as they were experimenting anyway. That’s the best way they will be able to prepare for the Asia cup.

Looking at the history of T20I matches in that particular ground (Central Broward Regional Park Stadium Turf Ground), I would say that India had posted a decent total. Suryakumar Yadav and Tilak Varma gave them a decent start, but middle and lower order failed to capitalize on that. They should have made a total of 190-200, but ended up with 165/9. But then the bowlers were wayward and were treated with disdain by the West Indian batsmen. Yuzvendra Chahal was clearly out of form, but Hardik insisted in giving full quota of 4 overs to him.

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August 15, 2023, 07:21:05 AM
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I won't blame bowlers, there wasn't much expectation from them but they performed really well and restricted Windies batters in every match, all pitches were belter so they did a fairly decent job.
They did restrict them well in some matches, but they performed badly in some other matches like the last match where a pro like Chahal ended up giving away 50+ runs against the Windies.

Kuldeep was the only one who consistently delivered throughout this series in my opinion.

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August 15, 2023, 07:27:15 AM
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I won't blame bowlers, there wasn't much expectation from them but they performed really well and restricted Windies batters in every match, all pitches were belter so they did a fairly decent job.
They did restrict them well in some matches, but they performed badly in some other matches like the last match where a pro like Chahal ended up giving away 50+ runs against the Windies.

Kuldeep was the only one who consistently delivered throughout this series in my opinion.

Many people are saying that India team have lost the form and now they are so weak that they lost to the weakest team like India but they forget that it is the same Indian team which have won both the Test series and the one day series against West Indies. Also, they lost the T20 by margin of 3-2 which is not so bad.

I think we should give them a break and hope that they will perform much better in coming series / tournaments. Let’s not be too much disappointed with their recent performances.

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I won't blame bowlers, there wasn't much expectation from them but they performed really well and restricted Windies batters in every match, all pitches were belter so they did a fairly decent job.
They did restrict them well in some matches, but they performed badly in some other matches like the last match where a pro like Chahal ended up giving away 50+ runs against the Windies.

Kuldeep was the only one who consistently delivered throughout this series in my opinion.

Chahal was pathetic during this series. He was smashed all over the park by West Indian batsmen. There are a lot of promising youngsters waiting for a chance, including Washington Sundar, Ravi Bishnoi, Shahbaz Ahmed and Varun Chakravarthy are some of the names that come to my mind right now. They deserve a few outings and if Chahal can't perform then he should be kept out. BTW, I was also impressed with Kuldeep. He got his variations right, and bowled with a very tight line and length. Picked up wickets at crucial intervals.

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Ireland W vs Netherlands W

They played First T20 match in Amstelveen yesterday. If we took a look on the stats of the last match so we will see that the Ireland Women team was very strong as compare to Netherlands women team. Netherlands made 92 runs with yhe lost of 9 wickets but on the other hand Ireland's first partnership chased the target with in 13 overs. Excellent performance by Ireland.

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I won't blame bowlers, there wasn't much expectation from them but they performed really well and restricted Windies batters in every match, all pitches were belter so they did a fairly decent job.
They did restrict them well in some matches, but they performed badly in some other matches like the last match where a pro like Chahal ended up giving away 50+ runs against the Windies.

Kuldeep was the only one who consistently delivered throughout this series in my opinion.
They did in the first 4 matches.

The Windies scorelines were below par in all matches despite the batting track but in the first 2 matches Indian lost the plot with their batting, not bowling. Chahal performed exceptionally well in the first 2 matches and did a satisfactory job in 3rd and 4th. Yeah, Windies took him to a cleaner in the last encounter but it does happen sometimes and every bowler is allowed to have an off day.


Chahal was pathetic during this series. He was smashed all over the park by West Indian batsmen.
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I won't blame bowlers, there wasn't much expectation from them but they performed really well and restricted Windies batters in every match, all pitches were belter so they did a fairly decent job.
They did restrict them well in some matches, but they performed badly in some other matches like the last match where a pro like Chahal ended up giving away 50+ runs against the Windies.

Kuldeep was the only one who consistently delivered throughout this series in my opinion.
They did in the first 4 matches.

The Windies scorelines were below par in all matches despite the batting track but in the first 2 matches Indian lost the plot with their batting, not bowling. Chahal performed exceptionally well in the first 2 matches and did a satisfactory job in 3rd and 4th. Yeah, Windies took him to a cleaner in the last encounter but it does happen sometimes and every bowler is allowed to have an off day.


Chahal was pathetic during this series. He was smashed all over the park by West Indian batsmen.
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@JSRAW the Indian team management needs to immediately introspect as to why the player’s who perform so well in IPL failed and they should take bold decisions and drop some player’s so all get the message i.e. perform or perish. Also those are decent figures for the T20 format except the last match where he could have done better but I’m sure that he’ll learn from this thrashing and perform better in the next match.
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I think we should give them a break and hope that they will perform much better in coming series / tournaments. Let’s not be too much disappointed with their recent performances.
Criticism upto a certain limit is perfectly fine. Whatever I mentioned in my recent posts is clearly under that limit. They need to improve a lot if they want to compete against stronger teams like Australia etc.

They did in the first 4 matches.

The Windies scorelines were below par in all matches despite the batting track but in the first 2 matches Indian lost the plot with their batting, not bowling. Chahal performed exceptionally well in the first 2 matches and did a satisfactory job in 3rd and 4th. Yeah, Windies took him to a cleaner in the last encounter but it does happen sometimes and every bowler is allowed to have an off day.
Valid points. I simply expected more from them which is why I was disappointed by the bowlers and the batsmen especially.

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Ireland W vs Netherlands W

They played First T20 match in Amstelveen yesterday. If we took a look on the stats of the last match so we will see that the Ireland Women team was very strong as compare to Netherlands women team. Netherlands made 92 runs with yhe lost of 9 wickets but on the other hand Ireland's first partnership chased the target with in 13 overs. Excellent performance by Ireland.
Netherlands women's team is stronger than Ireland women's team but they lost the T20 match against Ireland. However, the Netherlands women team did not perform well in the match due to which they lost the match. However, both the batting and bowling performances of the Ireland women's team have been outstanding for which they have achieved hugely. Basically, due to the bad batting performance of Netherlands, they could not start many runs in the match and they lost wickets very easily. But Ireland batsmen played their game and two batsmen played brilliantly and scored runs to reach the target. Ireland's two batsmen in particular, Gaby Lewis and Amy Hunter, finished the game in 13.1 overs with both of them batting, and achieved a huge win by 10 wickets, which was really good for the Island.

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I definitely think that India should have given a bigger target for West Indies. The start was really bad for India. Both of the openers were not able to do basically anything. And I also expected better performance from the Captain Hardik Pandya.  I definitely think the target could have been something better. But at the same time, I also agree that the bowling performance of India was not good as well.  It seems like in the last decider match. India failed to perform in both batting and bowling. West Indies also gave India extra 11 runs.
There are some players who are put under a lot of pressure when given the captaincy which results in not getting the desired performance from them. Same is the case with Hardik Pandya, Hardik Pandya is currently a very good fast bowling all-rounder but he has been given the captaincy in this series which is why we don't see a good performance from him. You may say that Hardik Pandya captained Gujarat Titans in IPL to win the trophy in the first season and then made the team runners-up then why Hardik Pandya is not able to captain the national team well. Firstly there are many differences between a domestic league tournament and an international tournament. Although Hardik Pandya has been successful in the domestic league, it is very difficult to do well against the champions in this kind of international tournament. Next BCCI should think before giving Hardik Pandya the captaincy and then give the captaincy.
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You are absolutely right, much can be expected of young players, but it is a matter of time. The experience of young players is much less compared to the experience of older players so one can never expect good things from young players facing international players. India has always ruled the world of cricket. But that is possible only for old talented players
Giving chance to the young players is not bad idea but some old players should also he included in the team so that opposition team feel fear and at the time of pressure situation old players overcome this pressure.

India team has not announced their team for Asia cup yet while three team Pakistan, Nepal and Bangladesh announced their squad. Bangladesh senior and experience player Shakib ul hassan will lead the team and many old players like Mushfiqur raheem,Litton Das and Taskin ahmad get back into the team which s very positive decision. India should also include Experience players and new youngsters like Sourya for perfect start to the asia cup

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I think we should give them a break and hope that they will perform much better in coming series / tournaments. Let’s not be too much disappointed with their recent performances.
Criticism upto a certain limit is perfectly fine. Whatever I mentioned in my recent posts is clearly under that limit. They need to improve a lot if they want to compete against stronger teams like Australia etc.


That's perfectly fine and I didn't tell this to only your comment but generally, when I see different analyses from different posters, I felt that some are treating them as if they have done a sin by losing a match and a series.

Even though we know that both teams came to win the matches, the other team can also be better on the day and then we all know that one team will be a winner and the other be a loser. Sometimes a strong team may make mistakes and loses. I saw a lack of spirit of sportsman spirit in some of the comments, so expressed by my view and feeling.

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August 16, 2023, 02:40:06 AM
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Netherlands Women vs Ireland Women, 2nd T20
Today is the 2nd match of Netherlands Women vs Ireland Women T20 series. If we look at the first match, Netherlands Women managed to score 92 runs for 9 wickets. Netherlands Women could not score more runs due to bad batting. Ireland Women batted brilliantly in 13.1 overs to win by 10 wickets. Ireland Women is a stronger team than Netherlands Women. If Ireland Women win today's match they will win the series. Netherlands Women must win today's match to equalize. I think Ireland women will have more chances to win today's match as well.

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August 16, 2023, 02:54:11 AM
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Giving chance to the young players is not bad idea but some old players should also he included in the team so that opposition team feel fear and at the time of pressure situation old players overcome this pressure.

India team has not announced their team for Asia cup yet while three team Pakistan, Nepal and Bangladesh announced their squad. Bangladesh senior and experience player Shakib ul hassan will lead the team and many old players like Mushfiqur raheem,Litton Das and Taskin ahmad get back into the team which s very positive decision. India should also include Experience players and new youngsters like Sourya for perfect start to the asia cup

Yeah.. India and Afghanistan are the two teams that are yet to announce their squads. It is surprising given that the start is less than two weeks away. India doesn't have much to worry in group stage. They are placed along with Nepal and Pakistan, and even if they lose against Pakistan they will qualify for the super-4 stage. BTW, next month there will be the Asian Games cricket competition, and it is going to be interesting as well. Ruturaj Gaikwad is leading the Indian team, and Mukesh Kumar, Jitesh Sharma, Arshdeep Singh and Tilak Varma are also present.

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August 16, 2023, 02:57:29 AM
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Netherlands Women vs Ireland Women, 2nd T20
Today is the 2nd match of Netherlands Women vs Ireland Women T20 series. If we look at the first match, Netherlands Women managed to score 92 runs for 9 wickets. Netherlands Women could not score more runs due to bad batting. Ireland Women batted brilliantly in 13.1 overs to win by 10 wickets. Ireland Women is a stronger team than Netherlands Women. If Ireland Women win today's match they will win the series. Netherlands Women must win today's match to equalize. I think Ireland women will have more chances to win today's match as well.

Women's cricket is rarely discussed. Because women's cricket is still not very popular. Not many people are interested in women's cricket yet. Because of this gamblers also don't bet much on women's cricket and don't even discuss it.

However, I was impressed by the performance of the Ireland women's team in the first match. I thought the Netherlands women's team and the Ireland women's team were about the same quality. So maybe the match will be competitive. But Ireland's players played brilliantly. Arlene Kelly's excellent performance saw Ireland bowl out the Netherlands for just 96 runs. Kelly took 5 wickets for just 12 runs. Ireland women's team also reached the target of victory without losing any wicket. But I hope for a better performance from the Netherlands women's team in the second match.

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August 16, 2023, 05:37:44 AM
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Giving chance to the young players is not bad idea but some old players should also he included in the team so that opposition team feel fear and at the time of pressure situation old players overcome this pressure.

India team has not announced their team for Asia cup yet while three team Pakistan, Nepal and Bangladesh announced their squad. Bangladesh senior and experience player Shakib ul hassan will lead the team and many old players like Mushfiqur raheem,Litton Das and Taskin ahmad get back into the team which s very positive decision. India should also include Experience players and new youngsters like Sourya for perfect start to the asia cup

Yeah.. India and Afghanistan are the two teams that are yet to announce their squads. It is surprising given that the start is less than two weeks away. India doesn't have much to worry in group stage. They are placed along with Nepal and Pakistan, and even if they lose against Pakistan they will qualify for the super-4 stage.
Other teams have already announced their squads for the Asia Cup only Afghanistan and India have not announced their squads for the Asia Cup. There is still some time left for the Asia Cup to start so I think India and Afghanistan are not in a hurry to announce the teams. These two teams may announce the team with qualified players who can do well in the Asia Cup. 

A total of six teams have been divided into two groups with India, Pakistan and Nepal in one group and Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka in the other group. In the first round, four teams will qualify for the semi-finals and two teams will be eliminated. 

India and Pakistan will qualify for the semi-finals from the same group as India, Pakistan and Nepal, and Bangladesh and Sri Lanka are more likely to qualify from the group with Sri Lanka and Afghanistan.
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August 16, 2023, 05:42:27 AM
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Netherlands Women vs Ireland Women, 2nd T20
Almost 3 hours are left and than the match will be started. Agai here I am pretty sure that the Ireland Women team will win this match easily again. Because they showed a great performance in the last match. According to the last match I am sure that Ireland will clean wash Netherlands women team. And will win the series too.

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