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December 11, 2020, 07:24:55 AM
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When playing good in a T20 tournament fetches you good money and spot recognition why will these younger players concentrate on longer format? There are more fans of T20 globally than five days tournament and that is one of the primary reason these younger guys are concentrating and putting more effort in the shorter format. BCCI will only concentrate on format that earns them a lot of money and viewership. So, I doubt they will be focusing more in the loger format.

Financially, the T20 format may be important for the cricketers. But if they are more concerned about the fame, then they should not overlook the longer format. When someone talks about the stats (highest number of runs, top wicket takers), they always mention about these stats from the test cricket. I have almost never heard about anyone talking about the T20I stats.

I think all three formats of the cricket are important and therefore we see all the series consists of T20, One day and  test matches. Each game has its own importance and give you entertainment. You will never feel bored if you are seeing a test match between nations like India and Australia.
Test matches in India, Australia, England and New Zealand are very enjoyable. But Test matches in other countries are not exciting. Countries like Bangladesh, West Indies and Sri Lanka are far behind in the Test format. When these countries host a Test series with Australia or England the series becomes very one-sided. ODI or t20 matches are much more exciting than this and everyone enjoys it.

But what about the countries like Sri, WI, Bangladesh play test series between them. Since these countries have similar sort of talent, the test matches will still be interesting however the audience will be limited to only the playing nations only.
When these teams play test matches between them, it gets to be more interesting on few matches and used to go one sided in few matches. In any one of the match Bangladesh will make promising win against the Sri Lanka or West Indies. This will be enjoyed by the entire country, but the very next match goes very worse. This is where the interesting thing of the match gets lost.

Its obvious that some matches between these countries will be one sided and other will be thrillers. You will not find all the matches to be nail biting one. Even, you will find some one sided matches between England, Australia and India too but the ratio will be less.
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December 11, 2020, 08:12:37 AM
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Its obvious that some matches between these countries will be one sided and other will be thrillers. You will not find all the matches to be nail biting one. Even, you will find some one sided matches between England, Australia and India too but the ratio will be less.

When was the last time you had witnessed a one sided match between England, Australia or India? This why I have argued in favor of two divisions of test cricket. The first division should comprise of 4 teams, i.e the Pig 3 + New Zealand. The second division should comprise of the remaining 8 teams. This should help in reducing the incidence of one sided matches. We can even have 3 divisions, with 4 teams each.
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December 11, 2020, 08:56:19 AM
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Its obvious that some matches between these countries will be one sided and other will be thrillers. You will not find all the matches to be nail biting one. Even, you will find some one sided matches between England, Australia and India too but the ratio will be less.

When was the last time you had witnessed a one sided match between England, Australia or India? This why I have argued in favor of two divisions of test cricket. The first division should comprise of 4 teams, i.e the Pig 3 + New Zealand. The second division should comprise of the remaining 8 teams. This should help in reducing the incidence of one sided matches. We can even have 3 divisions, with 4 teams each.
I Believe in next edition of World Test Championship ICC going to tweak lots of things and number of tests fixture going to be one of them. Most probably every nation would play same number of tests and its safe to say that group system formula still decade away as there is no such discussion taking place in the cricketing world.

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December 11, 2020, 03:32:26 PM
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I don't think India will be able to win a Test or a match. My prediction is that Australia will win 2 test matches and the other two is drawn. Rohit Sharma will not play.
You never know how India will be performing, they have the players to defeat Australia and they have one of the best opening bowlers in their side but it depends upon how prepared India is to face the Australian challenge and the pitch they are going to create for the series.

Rohit Sharma will be leaving to Australia on December 14 and he might play a match depending on the circumstances.

The Indian team will play with a bunch of young players. I think India must have experienced players to win against Australia. Players must have experience playing on the Australian pitch. Because Australian pitches are completely different from Asian pitches.
After watching the ODI do you think that the Australian pitch will help the bowlers, over a decade back it was true that they had one of the fastest pitches but now they also started favoring the batsman by creating batsman friendly wicket.
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December 11, 2020, 04:36:37 PM
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This up coming twenty/20 world cup is going to be very cruicial for Virat Kohli and Shastri because if they fail to produce any good result then surely both are going to be in hot water as many baord officials are going to against them and this can create some serious trouble for both these now time for them to bring some big silverware back at home for own safety.
I think so too. It will not be good for Virat Kohli and Shastri if they do not perform well in the world cup. BCCI is the richest cricket board in the world. It is normal for them to aim to be the champions. If Virat Kohli If can't take India to the final, I think he will lose the captaincy.

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December 11, 2020, 05:08:41 PM
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Test matches in India, Australia, England and New Zealand are very enjoyable. But Test matches in other countries are not exciting. Countries like Bangladesh, West Indies and Sri Lanka are far behind in the Test format. When these countries host a Test series with Australia or England the series becomes very one-sided. ODI or t20 matches are much more exciting than this and everyone enjoys it.

Bangladesh was never a major powerhouse and the ban on Shakib al Hassan made the matters even worse. Sri Lanka is still recovering from the 3-decade civil war and their talent pool is not very big. Pakistan is facing financial crunch, due to their ability to host matches at home (until very recently). And we all know what is the real issue with West Indies, where the players prefer franchise cricket over national duty. And the less talked about South Africa, that much better. South Africa were among the top sides two decades back. What happened after that can be solely blamed on the cricket board.
All the teams you mentioned have some problems. India, Australia and England are very stable. And they have enough talented players. And most importantly, their cricket board helps a player to be more skilled and experienced. So there is no shortage of talented players for their national team like other countries.

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December 11, 2020, 05:42:50 PM
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This up coming twenty/20 world cup is going to be very cruicial for Virat Kohli and Shastri because if they fail to produce any good result then surely both are going to be in hot water as many baord officials are going to against them and this can create some serious trouble for both these now time for them to bring some big silverware back at home for own safety.
I think so too. It will not be good for Virat Kohli and Shastri if they do not perform well in the world cup. BCCI is the richest cricket board in the world. It is normal for them to aim to be the champions. If Virat Kohli If can't take India to the final, I think he will lose the captaincy.
I don't think so, because this is sport so win or lose this is just a normal thing and you can't expect them to win every match even if they are the best team out of others. And also there is no better candidate yet available to lead the team India for now so give some time to the aggressive captain he is going to change the mood set of their players.
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December 12, 2020, 04:07:08 AM
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All the teams you mentioned have some problems. India, Australia and England are very stable. And they have enough talented players. And most importantly, their cricket board helps a player to be more skilled and experienced. So there is no shortage of talented players for their national team like other countries.

These countries have large talent pool, because the domestic cricket is in good shape. Now slowly New Zealand is also getting to the same level, but at least a part of the credit should go to the dozens of South African imports who are now regulars in the Plunket Shield trophy. In all the other countries, the quality of domestic cricket has gone down, and this in turn translates to weak performances by the national team.

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December 12, 2020, 04:14:02 AM
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All the teams you mentioned have some problems. India, Australia and England are very stable. And they have enough talented players. And most importantly, their cricket board helps a player to be more skilled and experienced. So there is no shortage of talented players for their national team like other countries.

These countries have large talent pool, because the domestic cricket is in good shape. Now slowly New Zealand is also getting to the same level, but at least a part of the credit should go to the dozens of South African imports who are now regulars in the Plunket Shield trophy. In all the other countries, the quality of domestic cricket has gone down, and this in turn translates to weak performances by the national team.

The performance is going to depend on the national infrastructure and the tournaments. The countries that have a regular and competitive tournaments and has a mass that gives cricket the utmost priority, they'd come as a success. Cricket is the number one sport for India, South Africa and Australia. That's why they are producing good players every period of time. Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Bangladesh occasionally have problems with their domestic tournaments but even their cricket is the most popular sports.

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December 12, 2020, 04:40:56 AM
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This up coming twenty/20 world cup is going to be very cruicial for Virat Kohli and Shastri because if they fail to produce any good result then surely both are going to be in hot water as many baord officials are going to against them and this can create some serious trouble for both these now time for them to bring some big silverware back at home for own safety.
I think so too. It will not be good for Virat Kohli and Shastri if they do not perform well in the world cup. BCCI is the richest cricket board in the world. It is normal for them to aim to be the champions. If Virat Kohli If can't take India to the final, I think he will lose the captaincy.

I do not think one international tournament will decide the fate of Virat Kohli. I am sure that does not apply to shastri as historically the coach is blamed first and then the captain for the downfall of any team. Looking at the past I donot expect India too be in the finals of the upcoming T20 world cup under the captaincy of Virat Kohli.

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December 12, 2020, 07:00:45 AM
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I do not think one international tournament will decide the fate of Virat Kohli. I am sure that does not apply to shastri as historically the coach is blamed first and then the captain for the downfall of any team. Looking at the past I donot expect India too be in the finals of the upcoming T20 world cup under the captaincy of Virat Kohli.
He already lost the Champions Trophy and 50 overs WC. India almost always reach easily in semi final so bench mark is set for good. Question is if he's capable enough to cross the line and win any ICC tournament, so far he failed to do so. In case India lose again in the next ICC tournament then selection committee should ask him tough question which they avoided last time (Last WC) and if necessary then change the captain. Captaincy selection criteria should be based on result not fan base.

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December 12, 2020, 09:03:35 AM
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This up coming twenty/20 world cup is going to be very cruicial for Virat Kohli and Shastri because if they fail to produce any good result then surely both are going to be in hot water as many baord officials are going to against them and this can create some serious trouble for both these now time for them to bring some big silverware back at home for own safety.
I think so too. It will not be good for Virat Kohli and Shastri if they do not perform well in the world cup. BCCI is the richest cricket board in the world. It is normal for them to aim to be the champions. If Virat Kohli If can't take India to the final, I think he will lose the captaincy.
I don't think so, because this is sport so win or lose this is just a normal thing and you can't expect them to win every match even if they are the best team out of others. And also there is no better candidate yet available to lead the team India for now so give some time to the aggressive captain he is going to change the mood set of their players.
The people of India love cricket. But they are very aggressive. They celebrate India's victory, but can't accept India's defeat easily. The Indian board also does not want India to perform poorly on a platform like the World Cup. You said that there is no better candidate in the Indian team than Virat Kohli. I think Rohit Sharma should be given a chance.

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December 12, 2020, 10:29:46 AM
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The people of India love cricket. But they are very aggressive. They celebrate India's victory, but can't accept India's defeat easily. The Indian board also does not want India to perform poorly on a platform like the World Cup. You said that there is no better candidate in the Indian team than Virat Kohli. I think Rohit Sharma should be given a chance.

A few years back, I used to like the captaincy of Virat Kohli. Back then, he used to combine aggression with good tactics. But nowadays, his aggression has given way to bullying and nepotism. And when someone deviates from their core principles, the performance also goes down. The team bonding suffers when the captain himself is accused of bias and nepotism.
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The people of India love cricket. But they are very aggressive. They celebrate India's victory, but can't accept India's defeat easily. The Indian board also does not want India to perform poorly on a platform like the World Cup. You said that there is no better candidate in the Indian team than Virat Kohli. I think Rohit Sharma should be given a chance.

A few years back, I used to like the captaincy of Virat Kohli. Back then, he used to combine aggression with good tactics. But nowadays, his aggression has given way to bullying and nepotism. And when someone deviates from their core principles, the performance also goes down. The team bonding suffers when the captain himself is accused of bias and nepotism.

Not always the aggressive captain wins. Sometime even the calmness can make you win too. I think captaincy of Virat Kohli is very good because he can mold himself according to the situation.
If the captain is performing well as a player, this will further boost his confidence and he will take more bolder decisions.
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December 12, 2020, 02:44:54 PM
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The people of India love cricket. But they are very aggressive. They celebrate India's victory, but can't accept India's defeat easily. The Indian board also does not want India to perform poorly on a platform like the World Cup. You said that there is no better candidate in the Indian team than Virat Kohli. I think Rohit Sharma should be given a chance.

A few years back, I used to like the captaincy of Virat Kohli. Back then, he used to combine aggression with good tactics. But nowadays, his aggression has given way to bullying and nepotism. And when someone deviates from their core principles, the performance also goes down. The team bonding suffers when the captain himself is accused of bias and nepotism.
Your thoughts are similar to mine. When Virat Kohli became the captain after Dhoni, I liked Virat Kohli very much. Virat Kohli is one of the best players in the world. I still like his batting, but as a captain he is not as successful as before. He often made many wrong decisions in matches. I think Rohit Sharma should be given a chance for the T20 format. He may be able to do better than Virat Kohli.

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December 12, 2020, 04:01:44 PM
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The people of India love cricket. But they are very aggressive. They celebrate India's victory, but can't accept India's defeat easily. The Indian board also does not want India to perform poorly on a platform like the World Cup. You said that there is no better candidate in the Indian team than Virat Kohli. I think Rohit Sharma should be given a chance.

A few years back, I used to like the captaincy of Virat Kohli. Back then, he used to combine aggression with good tactics. But nowadays, his aggression has given way to bullying and nepotism. And when someone deviates from their core principles, the performance also goes down. The team bonding suffers when the captain himself is accused of bias and nepotism.
Your thoughts are similar to mine. When Virat Kohli became the captain after Dhoni, I liked Virat Kohli very much. Virat Kohli is one of the best players in the world. I still like his batting, but as a captain he is not as successful as before. He often made many wrong decisions in matches. I think Rohit Sharma should be given a chance for the T20 format. He may be able to do better than Virat Kohli.
Handling both captaincy and maintain good batting equally kinda tricky things and not everyone suite for that. It's a long time individuals are beginning making question on his captaincy and there make sense to hand over T20I captaincy Rohit Sharma since under his captaincy MI won the IPL trophy.
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December 12, 2020, 06:41:09 PM
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This up coming twenty/20 world cup is going to be very cruicial for Virat Kohli and Shastri because if they fail to produce any good result then surely both are going to be in hot water as many baord officials are going to against them and this can create some serious trouble for both these now time for them to bring some big silverware back at home for own safety.
I think so too. It will not be good for Virat Kohli and Shastri if they do not perform well in the world cup. BCCI is the richest cricket board in the world. It is normal for them to aim to be the champions. If Virat Kohli If can't take India to the final, I think he will lose the captaincy.
I don't think so, because this is sport so win or lose this is just a normal thing and you can't expect them to win every match even if they are the best team out of others. And also there is no better candidate yet available to lead the team India for now so give some time to the aggressive captain he is going to change the mood set of their players.
The people of India love cricket. But they are very aggressive. They celebrate India's victory, but can't accept India's defeat easily. The Indian board also does not want India to perform poorly on a platform like the World Cup. You said that there is no better candidate in the Indian team than Virat Kohli. I think Rohit Sharma should be given a chance.
Rohit Sharma has been one of the best captains in IPL but this not alone makes him as the best alternative to become captain for the international team because players are not the same which will remarkably show the difference in the team's performance. Individually Virat also the best player in the international standard but he is a bit unlucky in my opinion.Its all been set now so changing the captain now will totally affect the dressing room atmosphere so let it be and hope they will give their best.
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December 12, 2020, 06:53:31 PM
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Handling both captaincy and maintain good batting equally kinda tricky things and not everyone suite for that. It's a long time individuals are beginning making question on his captaincy and there make sense to hand over T20I captaincy Rohit Sharma since under his captaincy MI won the IPL trophy.
The only reason everyone is claiming to hand over the captaincy to Rohit Sharma is because of the performance as a captain in the IPL. The difference is that whenever Rohit Sharma did not play due to injury Pollard was leading the team and they were winning them as well and it is all because they had a good complete team with top bowlers and good openers and middle order as well and leading a strong team is always easy Grin.
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December 13, 2020, 03:10:24 AM
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Handling both captaincy and maintain good batting equally kinda tricky things and not everyone suite for that. It's a long time individuals are beginning making question on his captaincy and there make sense to hand over T20I captaincy Rohit Sharma since under his captaincy MI won the IPL trophy.
The only reason everyone is claiming to hand over the captaincy to Rohit Sharma is because of the performance as a captain in the IPL. The difference is that whenever Rohit Sharma did not play due to injury Pollard was leading the team and they were winning them as well and it is all because they had a good complete team with top bowlers and good openers and middle order as well and leading a strong team is always easy Grin.

I have to agree with you here. Pollard performed much better than Rohit, as far as captaining the Mumbai Indians was concerned. But then the question is who can replace Kohli as the captain of the Indian team. All the top captains during the IPL were foreign players, such as Pollard, Smith and Warner. So the choice comes down to Rohit Sharma and Shreyas Iyer. And at this point, I have to say that Iyer doesn't have enough maturity.

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December 13, 2020, 03:33:00 AM
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Handling both captaincy and maintain good batting equally kinda tricky things and not everyone suite for that. It's a long time individuals are beginning making question on his captaincy and there make sense to hand over T20I captaincy Rohit Sharma since under his captaincy MI won the IPL trophy.
The only reason everyone is claiming to hand over the captaincy to Rohit Sharma is because of the performance as a captain in the IPL. The difference is that whenever Rohit Sharma did not play due to injury Pollard was leading the team and they were winning them as well and it is all because they had a good complete team with top bowlers and good openers and middle order as well and leading a strong team is always easy Grin.

I have to agree with you here. Pollard performed much better than Rohit, as far as captaining the Mumbai Indians was concerned. But then the question is who can replace Kohli as the captain of the Indian team. All the top captains during the IPL were foreign players, such as Pollard, Smith and Warner. So the choice comes down to Rohit Sharma and Shreyas Iyer. And at this point, I have to say that Iyer doesn't have enough maturity.
Exactly there are only two choices one is robi and the next is iyer. Rohit is more experienced than iyer but iyer did quite well in this IPL season. Knowing BCCI they will go for Rohit if required but if virat can perform as a captain in the upcoming T20 worldcup then I think they will stick with him.

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