Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. WTF?

[uartasic]

i still cling to the hope that some mad peanut has this plane parked on an island runway somewhere and waiting out a hostage demand etc. its a long shot but its the only positive with such sad impending news.

as most of you have touched on that the debris is not yet verified so it could be anything, depending where you sit on the whole secrecy of the data being shown or not shown.

but one thing is certain, it will really suck right now being a Malaysian Ambassador/Diplomat in China right now.

the Malaysian "intelligence" have pooched this to no end. I am also guessing their relations with Thailand and China will be strained for decades to come.

The lack of cooperation was unbelievable. sure they have secrets to guard but when 239 lives are involved and potential terrorist threat, its absurd.

Its also hard for us to not be caught up in this as we live only 200kms from the Pearce Air force base and the traffic, apart from the annual air show here is unprecedented. Every time we hear them take off and land we just hope for the best.

Sad times made worse by the inept and ill informed who are paid to be quite the opposite.

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[hilariousandco]

Why is pilot suicide a likely explanation? I've seen nothing at all to suggest that.

I say that based on earlier reports that indicated ACARS had been turned off manually and the flight computer reprogrammed to turn before the last radio contact, which would imply a deliberate pilot action for reasons he didnt want to share with traffic control. But I do not know what the source of those reports were and the timing of events seems to have been altered since, undermining most of my hypothesis. Even so, if I were to commit suicide by crashing a plane, Id probably prefer it remained a mystery too, if for no other reason as to save my family the shame.  Disabling all comms and flying it to the most remote part of the ocean where it may never be found,  is a good way of achieving that.

Committing suicide via such an elaborate plan would clearly not be foolproof. It'll bring much more shame knowing that he took a plane full of passengers with him. This seems to be quite the speculation.

[Puppet]

They're designed to float for as long as possible, but planes are pretty fragile and I doubt they'll take much from the waves before they go under.

Its not the going under thats the main problem, its the crashing in to 10 meter high concrete walls (called waves) at nearly 300KmH. Here is what happens :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD2AYvI2s5w

And thats on a calm sea, with maybe 1-2 meter high waves.

[Puppet]

Committing suicide via such an elaborate plan would clearly not be foolproof. It'll bring much more shame knowing that he took a plane full of passengers with him. This seems to be quite the speculation.

More shame than what? You think it makes a difference in what ocean he decides to commit suicide, taking 100s with him?

As for foolproof, time will tell if we can actually locate the plane and discover what happened, but it sure is a better way then nosing over and flying straight down in much more shallow waters on a known location.  Im sure if the pilot intended to kill himself, he would have been aware of EgyptAir 990.

[hilariousandco]

Committing suicide via such an elaborate plan would clearly not be foolproof. It'll bring much more shame knowing that he took a plane full of passengers with him. This seems to be quite the speculation.

More shame than what? You think it makes a difference in what ocean he decides to commit suicide, taking 100s with him?

As for foolproof, time will tell if we can actually locate the plane and discover what happened, but it sure is a better way then nosing over and flying straight down in much more shallow waters on a known location.  Im sure if the pilot intended to kill himself, he would have been aware of EgyptAir 990.

You said he chose to kill himself this way in an attempt to try hide the fact it was a suicide. Well there's only one thing more shameful than killing yourself and that is killing yourself and hundreds of others. Quite an elaborate and far-fetched plan just to kill yourself.

[Dogtanian]

They're designed to float for as long as possible, but planes are pretty fragile and I doubt they'll take much from the waves before they go under.

Its not the going under thats the main problem, its the crashing in to 10 meter high concrete walls (called waves) at nearly 300KmH. Here is what happens :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD2AYvI2s5w

And thats on a calm sea, with maybe 1-2 meter high waves.

That's one example, not classic of all water landings. You could see from the angle it came in that the wing touched the water and it wasn't going to go well. Similar thing would happen if the wing clipped the ground.

[Paya]

All I am saying is that right now they (search parties) have no clue what went wrong with the plane and -more important- where and how did it end. There are very few weak hints, even that area in southern Indian ocean is just an educated guess - there isn't one single solid evidence to support this theory. Therefore, their pretty explicit announcement "plane crashed, everyone dead, kthxbye" doesn't hold up very well. That's irresponsibility, an insult for the families. They shouldn't have said that. Surely, fatal crash is the most probable scenario, but no one really knows for sure. What if the plane crash landed onto some land mass and there are survivors? Should we completely dismiss the possibility of hijacking?

[Dogtanian]

All I am saying is that right now they (search parties) have no clue what went wrong with the plane and -more important- where and how did it end. There are very few weak hints, even that area in southern Indian ocean is just an educated guess - there isn't one single solid evidence to support this theory. Therefore, their pretty explicit announcement "plane crashed, everyone dead, kthxbye" doesn't hold up very well. That's irresponsibility, an insult for passengers families. They shouldn't have said that. Surely, fatal crash is the most probable scenario, but no one really knows for sure. What if the plane crash landed onto some land mass and there are survivors? Should we completely dismiss the possibility of hijacking?

We shouldn't dismiss anything. It still could be a hijacking. It could be pilot error. It could be one or several malfunctions, or a combination of several theories.

[Puppet]

You said he chose to kill himself this way in an attempt to try hide the fact it was a suicide. Well there's only one thing more shameful than killing yourself and that is killing yourself and hundreds of others. Quite an elaborate and far-fetched plan just to kill yourself.

Not much elaborate about it if you are a pilot and you fly every day. Also, wouldnt be the first time:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990

[hilariousandco]

You said he chose to kill himself this way in an attempt to try hide the fact it was a suicide. Well there's only one thing more shameful than killing yourself and that is killing yourself and hundreds of others. Quite an elaborate and far-fetched plan just to kill yourself.

Not much elaborate about it if you are a pilot and you fly every day. Also, wouldnt be the first time:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990

No, your theory is still pretty elaborate, and that wiki page says "The cause — either deliberate crash or mechanical failure — is disputed". There's two 'conclusions' apparently: Deliberate crash (NTSB) and Mechanical failure (ECAA), but this is still pretty irrelevant.

[roslinpl]

This is going to be another mystery unsolved for many years or forever...

Maybe it was like this :

Pilot to passengers (PtP): Hello, we have a lot of gold in our plane, we can share it and we can make it looks like a plane crash, they will never find us. We have a parachute for all of you, you will be dropped at safe place prepared by our team. Is that ok for you, because if not - we can do it alone You just have to do change your identity which will be possible with your share of gold.

Passengers:  Ok.

One of theories that I heard (I know this is impossible, and I wish they are all alive!)

[Dogtanian]

This is going to be another mystery unsolved for many years or forever...

Maybe it was like this :

Pilot to passengers (PtP): Hello, we have a lot of gold in our plane, we can share it and we can make it looks like a plane crash, they will never find us. We have a parachute for all of you, you will be dropped at safe place prepared by our team. Is that ok for you, because if not - we can do it alone You just have to do change your identity which will be possible with your share of gold.

Passengers:  Ok.

One of theories that I heard (I know this is impossible, and I wish they are all alive!)

Not the most ridiculous theory I've heard.

[hilariousandco]

This is going to be another mystery unsolved for many years or forever...

Maybe it was like this :

Pilot to passengers (PtP): Hello, we have a lot of gold in our plane, we can share it and we can make it looks like a plane crash, they will never find us. We have a parachute for all of you, you will be dropped at safe place prepared by our team. Is that ok for you, because if not - we can do it alone You just have to do change your identity which will be possible with your share of gold.

Passengers:  Ok.

One of theories that I heard (I know this is impossible, and I wish they are all alive!)

Not the most ridiculous theory I've heard.

Yeah, that goes to the Black hole theory. Funny how that gold rumour started. Just goes to show how easily bullshit gets spread.

[stash]

I believe on theory conspiracy but i think its not woth to share here.

[Dogtanian]

I believe on theory conspiracy but i think its not woth to share here.

Theory conspiracy? lol. Why not share it? Maybe people have offered their theories here.

[counter]

I hope they can find the black box but I suspect that won't happen.  If parts of the wreckage is found that would help with closure for many people on this matter.  I've heard that there were many odd issues about the ledger of passengers not being correct with those that were actually on the plane though I never looked into it myself but I have no reason to doubt the source from where I got the info.   

Something very fishy happened IMO but I suspect the truth wil likely never be brought to light.

[Dogtanian]

BREAKING NEWS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJafaR1-FKY

There is no breaking news. Good video on the whole soap opera.

[kuroman]

They still have around 20days to find the black box, apparently the US is bringing a new ship that detects blackbox in 6km dimameter which is better than the usual 3-4km

[st4nl3y]

it is unbelievable how an event like this can be manipulated to deceive millions of people. They will soon find the black box and some parts of boeing 777 exactly like they found a plane wreckage that hit pentagon. do not believe what the media is telling you about this. there is too much money involved so the plane and passengers on board had to disappear. btw. boeing 777 is fully capable of "ditching" on water.

[hilariousandco]

it is unbelievable how an event like this can be manipulated to deceive millions of people. They will soon find the black box and some parts of boeing 777 exactly like they found a plane wreckage that hit pentagon. do not believe what the media is telling you about this. there is too much money involved so the plane and passengers on board had to disappear. btw. boeing 777 is fully capable of "ditching" on water.

In what way have people been deceived and what money is involved?