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April 08, 2023, 09:02:29 PM |
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I would not agree with you on it. I think Izzy has a chance and in my mind it's 50/50. If Izzy can drag him down and do a bit of wrestling in first round I think Pereira will go out of gas in later rounds. And this is likely to happen same like landing some big shot from Pereira. Cause of that I think it's 50/50.
I would not give 50/50 chance in fight between two guys with one of them beating the other one three times before, and it was TKO two times. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It's clear to everyone who the favorite is in this fight, but surprises can always happen. Once again, I'm worried for Izzy. However, I do think the pressure is largely off. He's already lost his belt, and now it's all about proving it to himself.
I dont think his problem was pressure, his problem is Pereira, that is why he lost so many times against him. Pereira fighting style is kryptonite for Adesanya, and only chance he can have is in case if Pereira gets injured before or during the fight. I hope I am wrong and he is going to give his best but I dont think it will be enough to beat this guy. Heard some words swirling around that Adesanya trained a lot in wrestling coming into the event. I'm not sure if it's a wise move as Pereira is a huge heavy guy.
We all saw what happened when he tried doing that with Jan Błachowicz ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) He likes taking risks, but repeating this against Pereira would be like suicide. This are my bets for this event main card: Alex Pereira by decision. Gilbert Burns, fight wont go to distance. Adrian Yanez Kevin Holland Christian Rodriguez, but this can go eaither way. Chris Curtis
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April 08, 2023, 10:30:59 PM Last edit: April 08, 2023, 11:27:10 PM by 7788bitcoin |
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For everyone who is placing bets, there is a rumor online that Israel Adesanya is having some sort of injury coming into this fight. Posting a screenshot taken from one of the pre fight interviews which is circulating online, he is having a swollen knuckle. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuYAAjEL.jpg&t=665&c=-kykBBvwb5hCKg)
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April 08, 2023, 11:40:16 PM |
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^^^^ If the injury is true, he will have an excuse if he fails to win the rematch ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . ~ I feel like Izzy will win. He showed up with a dog collar, did you see that? I think he took it on another level when he said: I’m a dog, it’s a dog collar and I’m about to be unleashed. Izzy had much greater fights, taughter opponents, gained more experience. Also, I think there is too much pressure on Izzy right now, he has no other option but to win. He already exaggerated this pressure when he came with Dog Collar. If he loses, then Alex's fans will call him a puppy dog. I can't imagine how extremely he will be bullied if he loses this fight because he associated himself with dog that wears a collar. He has no other way but just to win, he cut every other way! Izzy is imitating a fictional character with the dog collar from the movie Unleashed where Jet Li plays a character that is held back with a dog collar and he will only start fighting when he is unlocked from the collar. So i would not say that it is a serious level of thinking as he is pretending to be a fictional movie character ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .
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April 09, 2023, 11:22:46 AM |
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Izzy is imitating a fictional character with the dog collar from the movie Unleashed where Jet Li plays a character that is held back with a dog collar and he will only start fighting when he is unlocked from the collar. So i would not say that it is a serious level of thinking as he is pretending to be a fictional movie character ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Yeah, you are right. But it was kinda cool at some point with his angry dead-looking face. Such an amazing fight because of such an unexpected ending. Performance in the first round from both of them was equal but Pereira started the second round with more pressure and when he had Adesanya pushed in the corner and striking, I was like, yeah, Adesanya is done and Pereira wins again but holy shit, Adesanya gave him an amazing strike, it was a great knockout. His strike was so fast that I was kinda confused, then slowed down video, repeat that scene again and his strike was so fast that it was still hard to view it well ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Definitely it was a great fight and congrats to Adesanya, he unleashed the beast!
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April 09, 2023, 11:23:23 AM |
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^^
There are no such injuries for Adesanya or whatever if you looked at the fight it was a great fight to watch even Alex Pereira is doing great what he surely does most of the time but Israel Adesanya is playing a little risky possum but if you look at the fight Israel Adesanya's eyes were focus on Alex Pereira awaiting the right opportunity while Alex Pereira doesn't really know what had hit him this time, and that punch from Izzy really out cold him a couple of minutes so I think the rematch will not going to happen so soon, I think Israel Adesanya will need to fight Robert Whittiker for the time being while Alex Pereira will have to relax and stay out of the Octagon for the meanwhile, before setting up another rematch,
This is the result of my picks and bets for the UFC 287 event,
MAIN EVENT
Alex Pereira (2.18) VS Israel Adesanya (1.78) - Betting for Adesanya - BET WIN
CO-MAIN EVENT
Gilbert Burns (1.24) VS Jorge Masvidal (4.70) - Not Betting - WIN
MAIN CARD
Rob Font (2.60) VS Adrian Yanez (1.56) - Betting for Yanez - BET LOST Kevin Holland (1.43) VS Santiago Ponzinibbio (3.10) - Not Betting - WIN Raul Rosas Jr. (1.43) VS Christian Rodriguez (3.10) - Betting for Rosas - BET LOST
PRELIMINARY CARD
Kelvin Gastelum (1.81) VS Chris Curtis (2.14) - Not Betting - LOST Michelle Waterson-Gomez (2.45) VS Luana Pinheiro (1.63) - Not Betting - LOST Gerald Meerschaert (2.65) VS Joseph Pyfer (1.55) - Not Betting - WIN Karl Williams (1.25) VS Chase Sherman (4.50) - Not Betting - CANCELLED Cynthia Calvillo (3.45) VS Lupita Godinez (1.37) - Not Betting - WIN Trey Ogden (3.90) VS Ignacio Bahamondes (1.31) - Not Betting - WIN Steve Garcia (2.65) VS Shayilan Nuerdanbieke (1.55) - Not Betting - WIN Sam Hughes (3.25) VS Jaqueline Amorim (1.41) - Not Betting - LOST
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April 09, 2023, 03:09:13 PM |
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There are no such injuries for Adesanya or whatever if you looked at the fight it was a great fight to watch even Alex Pereira is doing great what he surely does most of the time but Israel Adesanya is playing a little risky possum but if you look at the fight Israel Adesanya's eyes were focus on Alex Pereira awaiting the right opportunity while Alex Pereira doesn't really know what had hit him this time, and that punch from Izzy really out cold him a couple of minutes so I think the rematch will not going to happen so soon, I think Israel Adesanya will need to fight Robert Whittiker for the time being while Alex Pereira will have to relax and stay out of the Octagon for the meanwhile, before setting up another rematch,
Adesanya did what he had to do, he played this fight much more actively, and did not allow Pereira to dominate. It is impossible to say about any big advantage of any of the fighters, the fight was close, but Adesanya had much more desire to win back. He had confidence that he could do it, however, in the first fight, he made a mistake at the end of the fight, this time he did not give Pereira any advantage and acted very actively. Pereira made a mistake at the end of the second half, he was carried away by the attack, he decided that Adesanya could be crushed by pressing, but it is clear that there was a good work done on the mistakes, and Izzy was waiting for the right moment to make a good shot. Congratulations to Adesanya, I liked the fight!
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April 09, 2023, 03:26:07 PM |
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Adesanya did what he had to do, he played this fight much more actively, and did not allow Pereira to dominate. It is impossible to say about any big advantage of any of the fighters, the fight was close, but Adesanya had much more desire to win back. He had confidence that he could do it, however, in the first fight, he made a mistake at the end of the fight, this time he did not give Pereira any advantage and acted very actively.
Pereira made a mistake at the end of the second half, he was carried away by the attack, he decided that Adesanya could be crushed by pressing, but it is clear that there was a good work done on the mistakes, and Izzy was waiting for the right moment to make a good shot. Congratulations to Adesanya, I liked the fight!
Really impressed with the fight for the middleweight championship belt this morning where Adesanya managed to take revenge and take the championship belt that had previously been won by Pereira. In this fight, Adesanya was able to win with a TKO in the second round, just like the previous fight, where Adesanya almost got a TKO in the first round. Many Adesanya fans cheered because their mainstay fighter won and of course in that fight there was a sizable round of betting money. Unfortunately I fell behind in this fight bet and made me feel a little disappointed.
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April 09, 2023, 04:57:19 PM |
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^^
There are no such injuries for Adesanya or whatever if you looked at the fight it was a great fight to watch even Alex Pereira is doing great what he surely does most of the time but Israel Adesanya is playing a little risky possum but if you look at the fight Israel Adesanya's eyes were focus on Alex Pereira awaiting the right opportunity while Alex Pereira doesn't really know what had hit him this time, and that punch from Izzy really out cold him a couple of minutes so I think the rematch will not going to happen so soon, I think Israel Adesanya will need to fight Robert Whittiker for the time being while Alex Pereira will have to relax and stay out of the Octagon for the meanwhile, before setting up another rematch,
This is the result of my picks and bets for the UFC 287 event,
MAIN EVENT
Alex Pereira (2.18) VS Israel Adesanya (1.78) - Betting for Adesanya - BET WIN
CO-MAIN EVENT
Gilbert Burns (1.24) VS Jorge Masvidal (4.70) - Not Betting - WIN
MAIN CARD
Rob Font (2.60) VS Adrian Yanez (1.56) - Betting for Yanez - BET LOST Kevin Holland (1.43) VS Santiago Ponzinibbio (3.10) - Not Betting - WIN Raul Rosas Jr. (1.43) VS Christian Rodriguez (3.10) - Betting for Rosas - BET LOST
PRELIMINARY CARD
Kelvin Gastelum (1.81) VS Chris Curtis (2.14) - Not Betting - LOST Michelle Waterson-Gomez (2.45) VS Luana Pinheiro (1.63) - Not Betting - LOST Gerald Meerschaert (2.65) VS Joseph Pyfer (1.55) - Not Betting - WIN Karl Williams (1.25) VS Chase Sherman (4.50) - Not Betting - CANCELLED Cynthia Calvillo (3.45) VS Lupita Godinez (1.37) - Not Betting - WIN Trey Ogden (3.90) VS Ignacio Bahamondes (1.31) - Not Betting - WIN Steve Garcia (2.65) VS Shayilan Nuerdanbieke (1.55) - Not Betting - WIN Sam Hughes (3.25) VS Jaqueline Amorim (1.41) - Not Betting - LOST
He said in the post-interview that Pereira would have to do that hard work to get the rematch. Explaining that he did get the quick rematch because he had the belt for a long time and had defended it many times. Pereira would indeed have to fight the tough guys who might just easily defeat him like Whittaker. But I think they should get another rematch while fans like it. More fights more money for them and I think its Dana's decision.
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April 09, 2023, 07:28:59 PM |
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~ Pereira made a mistake at the end of the second half, he was carried away by the attack, he decided that Adesanya could be crushed by pressing, but it is clear that there was a good work done on the mistakes, and Izzy was waiting for the right moment to make a good shot. Congratulations to Adesanya, I liked the fight!
It was a great fight and Pereira never anticipated the counter strike because in the last fight Adesanya was not pushing the action whenever Pereira was the aggressor and it was a perfect plan and weight cutting is showing signs that his chin is not able to take clean punches and now i am curious how Pereira will be deciding his future on which weight division he is moving up as there were rumors that he will be going to Heavyweight.
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April 09, 2023, 08:10:36 PM |
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A nice revenge for Adasenya. Adasenya entered the ring at the right moment, this time he knocked Perreria down by counter, the hammer fist he hit on Perreria after hhe was knocked down must have been personal. As a result of his hunt, he put the belt back on his waist. I am glad that Adasenya won, because if he lost this match again, the affair between them would have ended. It was a great moment when he shot three arrows after TKO. He believed and did it, this time he used his last chance well.
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April 09, 2023, 08:54:37 PM |
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There are no such injuries for Adesanya or whatever if you looked at the fight it was a great fight to watch even Alex Pereira is doing great
No injuries for Adesanya but Pereira had a small finger injury before this fight, this is no excuse for losing this fight. Oh man I was so wrong about this fight, but I am really happy Adesanya won in this KO fashion and I am 100% sure we are going to see this two guys fight again in future! I had to rewatch main event again to see how Izzy controlled everything in second round, he lured Pereira and executed a great punch. There is a lot of talk about future opponents and I see there is chance of getting in higher division for Pereira. Great sporstmanship showed from both guys during and after fight, so I have to congratulate both of them for performance. Who is next for Adesanya?
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April 09, 2023, 09:08:37 PM |
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A nice revenge for Adasenya. Adasenya entered the ring at the right moment, this time he knocked Perreria down by counter, the hammer fist he hit on Perreria after hhe was knocked down must have been personal. As a result of his hunt, he put the belt back on his waist. I am glad that Adasenya won, because if he lost this match again, the affair between them would have ended. It was a great moment when he shot three arrows after TKO. He believed and did it, this time he used his last chance well.
For the UFC fight, Adasenya was well prepared. He is aware that losing the rematch for the middleweight championship belt won't reflect well on him because of the negative things said about him after the Pereira loss. The level of joy he experienced after defeating Pereira was unmatched. He arrived prepared, and he was sure in his mind that he would prevail and win back the middleweight championship. Am merely delighted for him that he won. The happiness is overwhelming for him, his family, and all of Nigeria citizens
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There are no such injuries for Adesanya or whatever if you looked at the fight it was a great fight to watch even Alex Pereira is doing great
No injuries for Adesanya but Pereira had a small finger injury before this fight, this is no excuse for losing this fight. Oh man I was so wrong about this fight, but I am really happy Adesanya won in this KO fashion and I am 100% sure we are going to see this two guys fight again in future! I had to rewatch main event again to see how Izzy controlled everything in second round, he lured Pereira and executed a great punch. There is a lot of talk about future opponents and I see there is chance of getting in higher division for Pereira. Great sporstmanship showed from both guys during and after fight, so I have to congratulate both of them for performance. Who is next for Adesanya? I speculate that there is someone who was watching Adesanya's lure and quick counter tactic and might also use it for his own fight on April 22. His name is Ryan Garcia hehehe. King Ry has a quick left hook that his opponent Tank Davis might not see if Ryan can also lure Tank similarly as Izzy lured Pereira. @Marykeller. Izzy's level of joy was so very umatched that he fired 3 invisible arrows on Pereira's body while he was knocked out heheheh.
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Adesanya did what he had to do, he played this fight much more actively, and did not allow Pereira to dominate. It is impossible to say about any big advantage of any of the fighters, the fight was close, but Adesanya had much more desire to win back. He had confidence that he could do it, however, in the first fight, he made a mistake at the end of the fight, this time he did not give Pereira any advantage and acted very actively.
Pereira made a mistake at the end of the second half, he was carried away by the attack, he decided that Adesanya could be crushed by pressing, but it is clear that there was a good work done on the mistakes, and Izzy was waiting for the right moment to make a good shot. Congratulations to Adesanya, I liked the fight!
For me Israel Adesanya fought this fight more cleverly than Alex Pereira, I think Alex Pereira did the same thing which is already seen by Israel Adesanya, and for this, I think Israel Adesanya sure has many tactics that have been ready to be shown on the fight I think there is always a wrestling game that he didn't use I think he is keeping that as a last resort, but this is pretty much clever if you look closer and watch the video when Adesanya was near the fence because this will surely be effective in those thigh corners which is in the fence, Adesanya was pretty much watching Pereira in anticipation in what he will do waiting for that Left hook and for that right timing he unleashed his right hook anticipating the left hook blocking it at the same time, that was truly a wonderful fight and Pereira was shocked and frozen for another right punch that is why it is befitting to be called frozen like Elsa, He said in the post-interview that Pereira would have to do that hard work to get the rematch. Explaining that he did get the quick rematch because he had the belt for a long time and had defended it many times. Pereira would indeed have to fight the tough guys who might just easily defeat him like Whittaker.
But I think they should get another rematch while fans like it. More fights more money for them and I think its Dana's decision.
yup! He surely said that and I think Alex Pereira needs to work his way up the hard way just like what Israel Adesanya did and show the MMA community that he really deserves another shot at the Middleweight belt, but Dana White is surely glad about the revenue and sales that this fight has catered that maybe he is willing to make another rematch between this two fighter even though Adesanya don't want that crap anymore if Dana White would say so maybe he can turn a blind eye just for the money, but let just wait and see, we all know that Dana White is only after the money, No injuries for Adesanya but Pereira had a small finger injury before this fight, this is no excuse for losing this fight. Oh man I was so wrong about this fight, but I am really happy Adesanya won in this KO fashion and I am 100% sure we are going to see this two guys fight again in future! I had to rewatch main event again to see how Izzy controlled everything in second round, he lured Pereira and executed a great punch. There is a lot of talk about future opponents and I see there is chance of getting in higher division for Pereira. Great sporstmanship showed from both guys during and after fight, so I have to congratulate both of them for performance. Who is next for Adesanya?
I was really happy that it ended up in a sportsmanship fashion because there is a lot of bad blood between these two and it really marks back when they are in Kickboxing, but I think it is all settled all those trash talks in the social media paid off to this revenued event and I think it is all just for the pay per view that Alex Pereira have done that,
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Years ago, when Alex Pereira knocked out Izzy in their kickboxing match, his son taunted Izzy by falling down on the ring, showing making a parody of a knockout. Yesterday Izzy payed him back, by doing the same taunt. Here is the article that about that case https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21990164/israel-adesanya-alex-pereira-son-ko-ufc-287-celebration/ + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6kjrSHSBTA. There is a video also, where Pereira kids were crying after KO and that performance. People have divided into two categories. First - they said that they are kids and it is unfair taunt them like that. Second - kids must learn their lesson. They taunted Izzy first, and now got paid back. I support second category. Behave properly and you dont have to regret something in the future. There are lots of things how to celebrate a victory. Laughing over knocked out guy isnt good.
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April 10, 2023, 12:27:10 PM |
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my predictions for some of today's fights, I still don't know if I'll make multibet or single bets, but looking at the odds values, a multibet bet would be more advantageous
Alex Pereira - Israel Adesanya
perreira who since entering MMA has only lost once and then had 7 wins, he comes to this fight very motivated because in a previous fight he beat Adesanya, although past data are no guarantees that in the future things will turn out the same way , but in this case of this fight if Adesanya is fighting for revenge and fear of losing then at some point he will be mentally unbalanced and pear will be able to take advantage of that to attack and win this fight, the bookmakers are giving advantage to Adesanya, but the difference in odds between the two fighters is not very big, which means that a very balanced fight is foreseen and with only a small advantage of Adesanya on paper
Raul Rosas Jr - Christian Rodriguez
Raul Rosas Jr is a very young fighter in terms of age, he is only 18 years old, and has little time as a professional athlete, but of the 7 fights he had as a professional athlete he won all the fights, while his opponent Christian Rodriguez he is 25 years old and has 9 fights in which he won 8 and lost a fight, looking at these data we realize that the two fighters do not have big differences, but I think that Raul Rosas is younger and even if he has fewer fights than his opponent, Raul Rosas won this fight
In hindsight with Rosas just being at 18 years old, it should ave given us pause and ask if the guy is really legit. It was different during the time when Jon Jones rose the ranks. The fighters weren't as well rounded and as sharp as the fighters are today... Even to low - mid tier ones. Just something to keep in mind before making a bet. Anyway, I'm down bad bros. I'm not sure when I last won a UFC event. Lolol. :/ Nice to see Adesanya win tho. That at least makes 185 a tad interesting as it could be a trilogy.
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April 10, 2023, 01:01:10 PM |
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I was really happy that it ended up in a sportsmanship fashion because there is a lot of bad blood between these two and it really marks back when they are in Kickboxing, but I think it is all settled all those trash talks in the social media paid off to this revenued event and I think it is all just for the pay per view that Alex Pereira have done that,
Trashtalk is trashtalk and nobody can beat Conor McGregor in that field ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I really liked the music and entry for Pereira and I think he can only be better in his next fights, lets not forget that this was only his fifth MMA fight in carrier. Before that he was doing only kickboxing for years, and I want to see him becoming better fighter. Anyway, I'm down bad bros. I'm not sure when I last won a UFC event. Lolol. :/ Nice to see Adesanya win tho. That at least makes 185 a tad interesting as it could be a trilogy.
Trilogy fight is guaranteed to happen but I think they will first let the fight other opponents to make better build up for next fight. Maybe one or both of them will again try to experiment with Light Heavyweight division, but that is dangerous terrain for both of them.
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April 10, 2023, 02:21:14 PM |
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Years ago, when Alex Pereira knocked out Izzy in their kickboxing match, his son taunted Izzy by falling down on the ring, showing making a parody of a knockout. Yesterday Izzy payed him back, by doing the same taunt. Here is the article that about that case https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21990164/israel-adesanya-alex-pereira-son-ko-ufc-287-celebration/ + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6kjrSHSBTA. There is a video also, where Pereira kids were crying after KO and that performance. People have divided into two categories. First - they said that they are kids and it is unfair taunt them like that. Second - kids must learn their lesson. They taunted Izzy first, and now got paid back. I support second category. Behave properly and you dont have to regret something in the future. There are lots of things how to celebrate a victory. Laughing over knocked out guy isnt good. Yeah, that was a very bad behavior from that kick and I hope that kid received a lesson from his parents to not act like that but I don't think that would actually happen. By the way, that gesture from Adesanya was a very childish, not something a serious man does. Revenge against kid? Cmon, you are a full grown adult, your revenge is to kick his father's ass, that's where you finish your job. He took a kid's gesture seriously and said that he wanted to kick his ass, cmon, even Conor Mcgregor or Dana White wouldn't do that for money ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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April 10, 2023, 02:46:40 PM |
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Yeah, that was a very bad behavior from that kick and I hope that kid received a lesson from his parents to not act like that but I don't think that would actually happen. By the way, that gesture from Adesanya was a very childish, not something a serious man does. Revenge against kid? Cmon, you are a full grown adult, your revenge is to kick his father's ass, that's where you finish your job. He took a kid's gesture seriously and said that he wanted to kick his ass, cmon, even Conor Mcgregor or Dana White wouldn't do that for money ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I think Adesanya is mad and that's might his biggest reason to beat Pereira, Adesanya already prepare to taunt Pereira if he win this fight ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Adesanya need to accept to get hate comments after he won, every people will remember if Adesanya is childish person. But congratulations for him to able to beat Pereira in his rematch, sooner or later there's should be a trilogy. If Adesanya still win in the next fight, it's better for him to move to the next rank since there's no strong contender anymore in middleweight.
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April 10, 2023, 03:52:01 PM |
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I think Adesanya is mad and that's might his biggest reason to beat Pereira, Adesanya already prepare to taunt Pereira if he win this fight ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Adesanya need to accept to get hate comments after he won, every people will remember if Adesanya is childish person. But congratulations for him to able to beat Pereira in his rematch, sooner or later there's should be a trilogy. If Adesanya still win in the next fight, it's better for him to move to the next rank since there's no strong contender anymore in middleweight. It should be right to celebrate in whatever shape or form he wants after this win because obviously he was so pressured that he prepared a lot just to win this fight and he finally did without a doubt by knocking out Alex. I wonder if they will gonna meet up inside the cage next time when they move on with this event and win their next few fights in the future. They should always make a trilogy whenever there is a chance because there are not lots of fighters in the UFC by the way and the fans always love to watch this kind of fight whenever they are still at their very best times.
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