🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[tokeweed]

Big blow and loss for MMA is news that Khabib stopping with all his coaching activity this year to spend more time with his family

Hard to believe he completely quits sport. I think he will keep on training with same guys. He will be like his father, after ending fighting career, coaching entire life. I cant imagine him becoming a businessman, running, company, production, sitting in the office. I think he will always be in fighting. As a manager, promotor.

Spending time with family is great, but he has already told that he will send his son to wrestling section When the interviewer asked if he has found already a proper coach, he has said that he will train him. Doubt that he will train him just to be fit and NOT becoming a worlds champion.

^  Lol yup.  He'll prolly leave it to his son if he wants to compete professionally in MMA.  In some of Khabib's interviews, he said that it wasn't totally his decision when he competed in MMA professionally.  It was mostly because of his dad.  So go figure.

Anyway as for the last minute change for the match up...  I kinda like it.  And it's a good opportunity for Imavov to show that he belongs.  Not sure if he gets to enter top 5 at 185 tho as it's going to be in 205.  All in all, I think the UFC should just give him the rank.

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[TopTort777]

That Khabibs coaching retirement has spoiled all my plans Few weeks ago I have placed a bet on Makhachev vs Volkanovski fight (try to guess my bet lol). Now, as Khabib is no longer behind gaming controller and does not manage Makhachev in a "video game", I am a bit worried of loosing my money (I wonder of bookies have corrected their odds). Lets watch how Umar Nurmagomedov performs this Sunday without his bro.

Do you know that growing cucumbers and tomatoes is one of Khabibs businesses? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke0jMM_d7WE or google it. This is not the first time he is using that joke (if he jokes). I know that he really has that kind of business (in Dagestan) and has delegated it to one of his relatives.

[Iranus]

That Khabibs coaching retirement has spoiled all my plans Few weeks ago I have placed a bet on Makhachev vs Volkanovski fight (try to guess my bet lol). Now, as Khabib is no longer behind gaming controller and does not manage Makhachev in a "video game", I am a bit worried of loosing my money (I wonder of bookies have corrected their odds). Lets watch how Umar Nurmagomedov performs this Sunday without his bro.
Do you know that growing cucumbers and tomatoes is one of Khabibs businesses? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke0jMM_d7WE or google it. This is not the first time he is using that joke (if he jokes). I know that he really has that kind of business (in Dagestan) and has delegated it to one of his relatives.

Khabib is probably going to take himself absolutely away from the fighting. Now it is a little hard to say that Islam Makhachev is still going to be as effective as before even without Khabib. After all, he was a great inspiration for Islam Makhachev. And the support he can give to Islam Makhachev from the side of the octagon is absolutely unbelievable.

As far as I know and remember Khabib did say that he was going to do business with sheep and other animals as well when he retired. I am not going to be surprised if he has some kind of business like with sheep and vegetables which is actually quite big.

[bittraffic]

That Khabibs coaching retirement has spoiled all my plans Few weeks ago I have placed a bet on Makhachev vs Volkanovski fight (try to guess my bet lol). Now, as Khabib is no longer behind gaming controller and does not manage Makhachev in a "video game", I am a bit worried of loosing my money (I wonder of bookies have corrected their odds). Lets watch how Umar Nurmagomedov performs this Sunday without his bro.
Do you know that growing cucumbers and tomatoes is one of Khabibs businesses? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke0jMM_d7WE or google it. This is not the first time he is using that joke (if he jokes). I know that he really has that kind of business (in Dagestan) and has delegated it to one of his relatives.

Khabib is probably going to take himself absolutely away from the fighting. Now it is a little hard to say that Islam Makhachev is still going to be as effective as before even without Khabib. After all, he was a great inspiration for Islam Makhachev. And the support he can give to Islam Makhachev from the side of the octagon is absolutely unbelievable.

As far as I know and remember Khabib did say that he was going to do business with sheep and other animals as well when he retired. I am not going to be surprised if he has some kind of business like with sheep and vegetables which is actually quite big.

Sound like a nice way to retire and just keep himself out of the public. He promised to retire and so he did. We may have to forget about him getting back inside the cage. He has nothing to prove anyway even his best protege Islam proved it also.

The same result also if Connor fights Khabib, he might be able to make a career in boxing like Silva and perhaps Logan will be able to hype thier fight on PFL.

[OgNasty]

That Khabibs coaching retirement has spoiled all my plans Few weeks ago I have placed a bet on Makhachev vs Volkanovski fight (try to guess my bet lol). Now, as Khabib is no longer behind gaming controller and does not manage Makhachev in a "video game", I am a bit worried of loosing my money (I wonder of bookies have corrected their odds). Lets watch how Umar Nurmagomedov performs this Sunday without his bro.
Do you know that growing cucumbers and tomatoes is one of Khabibs businesses? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke0jMM_d7WE or google it. This is not the first time he is using that joke (if he jokes). I know that he really has that kind of business (in Dagestan) and has delegated it to one of his relatives.

Khabib is probably going to take himself absolutely away from the fighting. Now it is a little hard to say that Islam Makhachev is still going to be as effective as before even without Khabib. After all, he was a great inspiration for Islam Makhachev. And the support he can give to Islam Makhachev from the side of the octagon is absolutely unbelievable.

As far as I know and remember Khabib did say that he was going to do business with sheep and other animals as well when he retired. I am not going to be surprised if he has some kind of business like with sheep and vegetables which is actually quite big.

Sound like a nice way to retire and just keep himself out of the public. He promised to retire and so he did. We may have to forget about him getting back inside the cage. He has nothing to prove anyway even his best protege Islam proved it also.

The same result also if Connor fights Khabib, he might be able to make a career in boxing like Silva and perhaps Logan will be able to hype thier fight on PFL.

He's been putting on quite a bit of weight since retirement.  I think naturally he's a very big boy.  The amount of training and dieting he had to do to get into fighting shape and stay that way for so long was probably extremely difficult on him.  I don't think he'll be able to ever get back to that fighting shape now to be honest.  I also don't think he has any intention of trying to be a boxer, as he was a grappler and would probably get killed in a boxing match.  Now that he has seemingly retired from coaching as well, he'll probably continue to fade away until he is no longer mentioned, as his fighting opponents to me outside of McGregor weren't too impressive.

[Welsh]

I imagine we'll still hear off Khabib now, and then. Retiring is fine, but it would be a shame to lose someone who's considered one of the best by many. I like Khabib, seems like a genuine bloke, and obviously had an incredible skill set. I don't need him to come back to the UFC or fighting for that matter, but I'd like to get his input on fights, and potentially have him involved in the commentary or wrestling inputs. I know his English isn't exactly commentating quality, but his insight into the wrestling exchanges would be incredible. A bit like Din Thomas is with reading the fights.

[notblox1]

I imagine we'll still hear off Khabib now, and then. Retiring is fine, but it would be a shame to lose someone who's considered one of the best by many. I like Khabib, seems like a genuine bloke, and obviously had an incredible skill set. I don't need him to come back to the UFC or fighting for that matter, but I'd like to get his input on fights, and potentially have him involved in the commentary or wrestling inputs. I know his English isn't exactly commentating quality, but his insight into the wrestling exchanges would be incredible. A bit like Din Thomas is with reading the fights.

Khabib's still owns his MMA organization called Eagle MMA, and nobody knows what is going to happen with that.
I understand coaching needs a lot of time and under his wing there was many fighters, so let's give him some time to rest and think about everything.
People can say whatever they want about Khabib but he showed to be man of his word, so I don't expect to see him back to coaching soon.
I want to see him stay in MMA sport in any way possible.

[Welsh]

Khabib's still owns his MMA organization called Eagle MMA, and nobody knows what is going to happen with that.
I understand coaching needs a lot of time and under his wing there was many fighters, so let's give him some time to rest and think about everything.
People can say whatever they want about Khabib but he showed to be man of his word, so I don't expect to see him back to coaching soon.
I want to see him stay in MMA sport in any way possible.

Yeah, and since he's the owner he doesn't necessarily need to be involved publicly. He could just run it from the background. Although, the organisation would probably benefit from Khabib being publicly involved. I don't think he's completely out of the picture in terms of MMA, but I wouldn't rule out a role with the UFC either. Just because he owns his own organisation, doesn't mean they have to be competitors.

He's a man of his word, despite what us fans want. You've got to respect his decision, and the ability to stick to that decision, as I bet he probably does miss competing.

[Iranus]

Sound like a nice way to retire and just keep himself out of the public. He promised to retire and so he did. We may have to forget about him getting back inside the cage. He has nothing to prove anyway even his best protege Islam proved it also.
The same result also if Connor fights Khabib, he might be able to make a career in boxing like Silva and perhaps Logan will be able to hype thier fight on PFL.

He's been putting on quite a bit of weight since retirement.  I think naturally he's a very big boy.  The amount of training and dieting he had to do to get into fighting shape and stay that way for so long was probably extremely difficult on him.  I don't think he'll be able to ever get back to that fighting shape now to be honest.  I also don't think he has any intention of trying to be a boxer, as he was a grappler and would probably get killed in a boxing match.  Now that he has seemingly retired from coaching as well, he'll probably continue to fade away until he is no longer mentioned, as his fighting opponents to me outside of McGregor weren't too impressive.

I don't understand how "his fighting opponents outside of McGregor weren't too impressive" he was ready to fight against anyone.

But no one wanted to fight against him. Mostly because everyone feared him. Whoever fought against him was badly humiliated in the octagon. That also made other fighters not want to fight against him. And he has also fought against really good fighters like Michael Johnson, Dustin Poirier, Justin Gaethje, Edson Barbosa, and others. Before every fight, his opponent was given good odds to win. But he made it look so easy that when he beat them, people started saying this was not a good matchup.

[klidex]

All in true, It was not Nate Diaz who shut his mouth because after this he became more violent and arrogant than ever he goes to insult Khabib Nurmagomedov by offering him a drink of whisky knowing that Khabib never drinks because of his Muslim faith, then he started mocking the Islamic greetings and it goes really religiously and politically that was on press conference day, that is why Khabib Nurmagomedov after the fight was pretty much still mad and goes on his corner to still wreak havoc, it really became personal,

I don't know when McGregor will start competing again in the UFC. I don't know what is clear. McGregor's fans have started to decrease for now, and McGregor's opponent Khabib Nurmagomedov has retired from the UFC free-wrestling world and has even decided not to be a coach anymore.
So I think that in the next UFC match, if McGregor competes, he will not be as exciting as when he fought against Khabib, because in my opinion while watching the UFC fight, McGregor's fight with Khabib is the most thrilling and very exciting to watch, where Khabib fights with great anger. smoldering and the only match that Khabib experienced with vengeance in his heart.

Connor McGregor was 2 years inactive in MMA when he fought Khabib Nurmagomedov. I think he was an underdog already when he faced Khabib. I am not saying Connor will beat Khabib but it could be different if he was active and not from that long layoff and the huge humiliation when he was just toyed by Floyd Mayweather before being stopped in a boxing match.

Nevertheless, Connor has always had a place in the UFC whether he returns or not. Either he faces a newly signed beatable weak fighter, Connor will be entertained by Dana as always. Even Connor's tune-up with 100 years old Cerrone was top 5 in UFC PPV buys history. Connor owns 8 out of the top 10 UFC PPV buys.

During the long break McGregor was not active in UFC matches he was still training consistently even he was still keeping his body strong and getting stronger.
So the long break that was taken by McGregor was not a reason that made sense when he lost against Khabib.
A fighting athlete, san he still has a contract in a big event, it is impossible when he is paused or not active in the match, he is used to have fun, other things that are not useful. In fact, he uses this break to always train and strengthen himself, but what he faces is Khabib is the strongest UFC fighter in his class.

[YuginKadoya]

the reality is that in the beginning these fighters accept to fight for money in order to survive, they don't have the money to buy a house, luxury cars, airplanes, golf courses, tennis courts... but after they win many fights they start to make a lot of money, enough money for them to live well for many years, but what happens is the following when a fighter reaches the top he becomes the center of attention and with that he becomes very sought after by big companies to sponsor him or for him to do part of advertising for these companies

and the fighter begins to have a lifestyle that is excessively spent in order to remain in the spotlight, it happens that if the fighter stops fighting and other fighters start to appear who call a lot of attention, then the fighter with a luxury life needs to fight again and manage to win more attention and at this level the fighter is not fighting for money to live, he is fighting to have more money to sustain his luxury

Well, I surely don't blame Sean Strickland in making his way to the top for money but upon going on a fight he should think that this will not last forever and it will not sustain his luxurious lifestyle just like Derrick Lewis that takes a profit and having a sponsor like Popeye is a great deal for him, because these things are not permanent they will  eventually be gone to them they should save a lot of their money and invest in different stuff that will last long but it is life and if he wants to fight that badly then it is his choice,

But taking that fight is pretty much crazy for Sean Strickland, and for the latest UFC now he is no Royce Gracie who could fight multiple fighters in a day and the level of UFC back then is way much different than the UFC now,

I don't know when McGregor will start competing again in the UFC. I don't know what is clear. McGregor's fans have started to decrease for now, and McGregor's opponent Khabib Nurmagomedov has retired from the UFC free-wrestling world and has even decided not to be a coach anymore.
So I think that in the next UFC match, if McGregor competes, he will not be as exciting as when he fought against Khabib, because in my opinion while watching the UFC fight, McGregor's fight with Khabib is the most thrilling and very exciting to watch, where Khabib fights with great anger. smoldering and the only match that Khabib experienced with vengeance in his heart.

It was really brought up before that Conor McGregor will surely return to the UFC, but there is no news or even rumor about it when he will truly return, or if he's fighting Jake Paul in a boxing match, and Conor McGregor's ranking was thrown out by the UFC, he is now unranked in the UFC, but surely I think if he returns there will be curious people that might support him eventually and McGregor's persona is surely there to entertain and he is aware of that, that what he do is all because of fame and entertainment,

^ Conor McGregor is well past his prime. So I do not think it will be any problem for Charles Oliveira to beat Conor McGregor. But of course, he cannot underestimate Conor McGregor.

Anyway, of course, Conor McGregor is a rich fighter. And he can always find his way to have a higher rank match that he probably does not deserve at this time. But it is not going to mean anything if he cannot win. And Charles Oliveira also probably has the mindset that if Conor McGregor can bring good pay-per-view, Charles will also be able to get a good amount of money from this fight.

Past his prime, Yes! but if Charles Oliveira underestimated McGregor, Conor McGregor still can beat him in a fight so yes he can not surely underestimate McGregor for sure because in the past he surely know what McGregor can do, and Charles Oliveira if he ever going to take this fight for me I think it is just for the money, likely I want for him to try a least opponent that could take him again into a rematch with Islam Makhachev,

[TopTort777]

He's been putting on quite a bit of weight since retirement.  I think naturally he's a very big boy. 

He has told several times that he has "propensity for obesity" (I just google translated it from Russian, in shorts - he really gains easily). Just google at his father pictures being young and in age. Genes.

Some news:

Found on YouTube - it was not that Sean Strickland saved first UFC 2023 event, when he accepted to replace Gastelum. It was Imavov on the first place, that has selected Sean as an opponent. Sean right now is disappoint and a bit furious, because he did not have enough time to rest from previous fight. Also he has planned to go mountains to snowboard. I was wrong by saying that fighters are not forced to fight if UFC told them to do. Or maybe Sean is just trolling us in his usual manner.

[yazher]

I don't understand how "his fighting opponents outside of McGregor weren't too impressive" he was ready to fight against anyone.

Obviously this is what the media wants us to think because no matter who he beat up after McGregor, they don't seems to be satisfied with it especially Dana White. There's always bias and always bringing Mcgregor up even though he lose himself after fighting Khabib but thankfully Khabib already know that and despite of knowing it, he continue to make a name for himself without their help and also he made his own MMA organization to promote himself and his figthers.

[Erumo]

That Dana White and that slap scandal is everywhere. That is great example how one second can ruin reputation built for years. Imho, what Dana White has done is unacceptable. Specially in a lawful society like it is in US. I suggest everyone to follow the numbers of UFC subscriptions and event attendance, as this year, they are going to go down.

Well, we can not access what really happened back then the whole story, and what started it I think both Dana White and his wife would likely want this to keep private, the reputation of Dana White is on the line here, and his whole career and even the UFC might be at stake aswell, for me this is better kept private however this is surely domestic violence for sure but it is on Dana White's white to file a case against him to take this a formal case against White,

Dana White said that he wont get punished for that, nor he see how he could be punished. Feminists must be furious right now. They have claimed that he should leave the post of UFC CEO, but Mr. White said that UFC could easily function without him, he could retire in 2016 already as he has earned enough, he could leave his post, but that wont change much. Dana 1, feminists 0.

Seriously, how can him leaving UFC CEO post help this situation? How can a fine help this situation? I think he has already had a bad talk with his wife at home, in private.

[tokeweed]

^  Dana White is the president, not the CEO and he already has the back room set in place.  The guy behind the scenes who really makes all the important deals, fighter contracts, concerns with the commissions per state, approves the match making and all the other important stuff is done by Hunter Campbell.  He's the guy.  All the match making stuff are done by Mick Maynard and Sean Shelby.  So yeah, Dana White is mostly an overseer these days and reports to the UFC brass.

But there's one thing nobody can't do what Dana White does best...  Be the face of the company.  Love him or hate him, he does the job well.

Official weigh ins in around 1.5 hours.

UFC Fight Night 217:  Official Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYQ7vC0FYXo

[Riocasino]

The next fight i am going to predict is: Figueiredo, Deiveson vs Moreno, Brandon prediction (21 january 202)

Many people ask me about my predictions after I Won 3500 usd on ufc fight and predicted it.


Figueiredo, Deiveson vs Moreno, Brandon  fight history:


1st fight draw (figuerdo was robbed i believe)

2 st fight moreno dominated with his BJJ.

3st fight Figueiredo won landed more powerful strike and block his bjj and td.

4 st fight set to be in 21 january

ODDS OF FORTH FIRTH:

0.89
0.89



Why I believe he is going to win? After the 2st fight Figuerdo start trading with Henry cejudo one of the goats of ufc and he improved his game.
He improved his take down defense and his bjj and I am sure henry give him more tips.

He is more winner than Moreno you could see it on their records.
Also he is more alpha as a  as a man.  when Moreno, Brandon is more  soft personality also I notice that he is playing with lego on his age and has soft voice in general.



Figueiredo has more power 43% of his fights by ko
Moreno, Brandon  has 23% of his power by ko.


Both Have a good chin never finished by ko before.

I feel like the transition to work with henry and his strong mind will lead him to the forth win


Summarize


Figueiredo, Deiveson - Will win. I believe he will be able to shut him down for good this time with KO or win be decision due to more powerful shots and stronger mind.

[OgNasty]

The only stories I really care about in the UFC right now are Khamzat kicking everyone's ass...  When will someone be able to beat him, or at least not look like a rag doll out there?

Suga Sean O'Malley talking like he's a champion while his fighting skills have shown that he's barely getting by.  He's got a great youtube presence though and is an all around entertaining guy to watch and I hope he does well...

Paddy the Baddy, who also has a great personality and youtube channel.  His last fight was a win but we all know he lost.  Will he and Suga meet up at some point?  Will he lose his next fight and go into professional eating?

Then the only story that perhaps matters... Conor McGregor.  It's been long enough.  Let him pass a test to show he's off the juice and stick him in the octagon with some poor soul...

[Welsh]

Also he is more alpha as a  as a man.  when Moreno, Brandon is more  soft personality also I notice that he is playing with lego on his age and has soft voice in general.

I'm not criticizing you since you've already won a decent amount, but found this hard to follow. Since I don't think this means a lot at all. Some of the most soft spoken people are also some of the most talented. I also don't really believe in alphas, I mean these guys are fighters through, and through, and comparing who's the bigger, and stronger based on how they conduct themselves doesn't seem like the winning formula.

The other points you made make more sense, and is probably why you've done well in the past. I enjoyed the insight at least, just don't agree with everything you said.

[notblox1]

I see more fighters are dropping out from upcoming UFC event, Sijara Eubanks had to be removed because of weigh cutting issues.
We already know what happened with Kelvin Gastelum face, when Sean Strickland had to jump in on short notice to fill his spot.
Watching faceoffs I have to say that Sean Strickland doesn't look very serious and prepared so I have to take my bet on Imavov.
I am interested to see how Punahele Soriano will perform against Roman Kopylov, I remember some of his pervious explosive performance , but I don't know if he fully recovered after injury and health problems.

Weigh-In Faceoffs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjpTqdftp2Q

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[Welsh]

Yeah, this event with the number of drop outs is going to be a stinker I think. It's annoying because they never really let you know the new start time either, so you get there at the time the event is suppose to start, and they just run ads for like an hour.

The only stories I really care about in the UFC right now are Khamzat kicking everyone's ass...  When will someone be able to beat him, or at least not look like a rag doll out there?

Burns certainly didn't look like a rag doll, in fact there's an argument that he won that fight. For me, Khamzat probably did just take it, but in the moment it felt like Burns was winning that fight. I mean, Khamzat very nearly got slept, I distinctively recall him face planting the floor. I wouldn't mind seeing them fight again, Burns also looked to threaten him on the ground, which was refreshing to see. Khamzat will definitely lose, it's definitely coming I'm just wondering who's going to be the one to end the run.