🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[OgNasty]

Another thing is, I said UFC is not in its prime. There are two reasons for that.

First of all as far as we know the pay-per-view is decreasing day by day. And obviously, I am obliged to say that prime time was when Conor McGregor was in his prime. He was bringing unbelievable numbers for Dana White. So, I believe that was prime time for UFC. And the popularity of UFC is certainly not the same as it was at that time.

And secondly, I am sure we are all aware of a certain wrestling organization named WWE. I don’t think Dana White is doing a good enough job when something fake is generating more annual revenue. I want UFC to surpass the popularity of WWE.

I don't think you really explain the reasons behind those things.  First off, the UFC has been wildly successful as a business.  When it started taking investment at crazy valuations it was pumping tons of money into the brand to boost that valuation.  I think now we're at the stage where the investments have been made, the brand was built, and now they're collecting the money.  Once the money machine is running, they don't need that same focus on getting their brand introduced to the masses.

WWE is a money machine that has been rolling for a long time.  It's ok to not beat them in every measurement every year.

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[tokeweed]

It's def wrong to say the UFC is past its prime.  As a company, it's more than thrice over larger than what it was 10 years ago and they're still growing.  They have the biggest PPV events in MMA, biggest non PPV events and obv have the biggest roster of fighters.  And it's not just that, they have most of the best fighters in MMA.

And it's funny how the other guy doubles down and says the Eagle FC is close to the UFC's level.  Khabib is just starting to realize how hard it is to be a promoter.

But I will say this, there was a time when it was the golden years in the UFC from a fan's perspective.  It was when Demetrious Johnson, Dominic Cruz, Aldo, GSP, Anderson Sliva, Jon Jones and Cain were all title holders at the same time.  Good times.

I have re-read his post and is seems that he said opposite - "there is no MMA promotion that is close to UFC level of fame". But the fact that he has mentioned Eagle FC shows that he is a new guy here Bellator seems to be the most popular and biggest among "MMA but not UFC" promotions. Strikeforce used to be one step below UFC. They also had regular events, big name and huge rewards. But UFC bought them I think he is confusing crazy hype and overall popularity. During Khabib vs McGregor, world media was indeed more on a hype than today.

Did you notice, that after Drew Dober beat Bobby Green this weekend, he has now in lightweights top15, and, we see no Tony Ferguson there now

Well he did say that it's not in its prime anymore and that its popularity is waning.  To that I say, I bet to disagree.  He prolly isn't really following the UFC that much or for that matter, MMA.  Like it or not, the UFC has been gotten a lot bigger than it has ever been.

Dober deserves it...  He's been with the UFC for a long time now.  I could be wrong but I think he was at the top 10 at 155 back in the day.  He's 34 now and could still be in good match ups.  Just nothing to expect as far as climbing to top 5 and a title shot goes.

[Welsh]

The UFC is only really starting to take off, including MMA in the mainstream entertainment business. What's different is Dana has had to accomodate this new fan base, and therefore the UFC has changed quite a lot. You only need to look at the Ultimate Fighter tv series to see how much the UFC has adapted over the years. The earlier seasons were a lot more raw, while they're a little more professionally run these days.

That doesn't stop at the show, as the whole UFC production is very much the same.

[TopTort777]

But as far as I know, Eagle FC is growing in popularity quite quickly. I wanted to say that even though it only started recently, it will take them a long time to get close to UFC's popularity.

Sorry, but with Eagle FC you are wrong. If you examine MMA Info and Predictions - Bellator, KSW, PFL, ONE... topics last 10-20 pages, you will rarely see an Eagle FC there. Try to google this promotion. Their webpage hasnt been updated with latest info for a while. It looks like Khabib does not have much free time to develop his promotion.

If you think that I am wrong, then what were the times when "UFC were in prime"?

Another thing is, I said UFC is not in its prime. There are two reasons for that.

First of all as far as we know the pay-per-view is decreasing day by day. And obviously, I am obliged to say that prime time was when Conor McGregor was in his prime. He was bringing unbelievable numbers for Dana White. So, I believe that was prime time for UFC. And the popularity of UFC is certainly not the same as it was at that time.

And secondly, I am sure we are all aware of a certain wrestling organization named WWE. I don’t think Dana White is doing a good enough job when something fake is generating more annual revenue. I want UFC to surpass the popularity of WWE.

Take a look attendance number https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_events. You would see that they are growing every year. To bad UFC does not share each event PPV numbers. But I think they will be on more or less same level.

[Welsh]

Eagle FC, and various other promotions are growing quite nicely, but that's just because mixed martial arts in general is gaining popularity. None of these promotions are currently competing with the UFC in terms of growth or popularity though. UFC almost has a Monopoly based on viewings. I guess you could probably say they do have the Monopoly.

This is capitalism for you in full swing though. The UFC will likely continue to have that supremacy for a long time, simply because they make the most money, and are able to market their company more. You mention Eagle FC or Bellator to someone outside of the MMA world, and they'll likely not know a single fighter or might have not heard of the organisation at all. The UFC they'll know of.

[Iranus]

But as far as I know, Eagle FC is growing in popularity quite quickly. I wanted to say that even though it only started recently, it will take them a long time to get close to UFC's popularity.

Sorry, but with Eagle FC you are wrong. If you examine MMA Info and Predictions - Bellator, KSW, PFL, ONE... topics last 10-20 pages, you will rarely see an Eagle FC there. Try to google this promotion. Their webpage hasnt been updated with latest info for a while. It looks like Khabib does not have much free time to develop his promotion.

It is actually sad to see that eagle FC is not doing as well as it should be. I think it had a lot of potentials. And yes, you are right. Eagle FC is nowhere near as popular as the other, Bellator, KSW, and others. I think at the start it showed really great potential. But after all, every fighter is going to dream about fighting in the UFC.

If you think that I am wrong, then what were the times when "UFC were in prime"?

Another thing is, I said UFC is not in its prime. There are two reasons for that.
First of all as far as we know the pay-per-view is decreasing day by day. And obviously, I am obliged to say that prime time was when Conor McGregor was in his prime. He was bringing unbelievable numbers for Dana White. So, I believe that was prime time for UFC. And the popularity of UFC is certainly not the same as it was at that time.
And secondly, I am sure we are all aware of a certain wrestling organization named WWE. I don’t think Dana White is doing a good enough job when something fake is generating more annual revenue. I want UFC to surpass the popularity of WWE.

Take a look attendance number https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_events. You would see that they are growing every year. To bad UFC does not share each event PPV numbers. But I think they will be on more or less same level.

I agree that the popularity of the UFC is not decreasing. But my opinion is that it should be growing at a higher rate. After all, it is the best mixed martial art organization ever in the world.

When we think about that standard, to me, it feels like UFC should be doing better. I am not trying to just talk shit about the UFC. I am trying to say that UFC should hold a lot higher standards for themselves. And I think that can start by being the fighters more, I really do not think that the fighters are getting paid enough.

Another thing is, I said UFC is not in its prime. There are two reasons for that.
First of all as far as we know the pay-per-view is decreasing day by day. And obviously, I am obliged to say that prime time was when Conor McGregor was in his prime. He was bringing unbelievable numbers for Dana White. So, I believe that was prime time for UFC. And the popularity of UFC is certainly not the same as it was at that time.
And secondly, I am sure we are all aware of a certain wrestling organization named WWE. I don’t think Dana White is doing a good enough job when something fake is generating more annual revenue. I want UFC to surpass the popularity of WWE.

I don't think you really explain the reasons behind those things.  First off, the UFC has been wildly successful as a business.  When it started taking investment at crazy valuations it was pumping tons of money into the brand to boost that valuation.  I think now we're at the stage where the investments have been made, the brand was built, and now they're collecting the money.  Once the money machine is running, they don't need that same focus on getting their brand introduced to the masses.

WWE is a money machine that has been rolling for a long time.  It's ok to not beat them in every measurement every year.

UFC as the biggest MMA organization in the world should be doing better in my opinion. Yes, they are in a profit. But I think they might show some of that profit to the fighters as well. My thinking between the UFC versus the WWE started when I saw almost all the WWE fighters, or I think I should say entertainers have a very luxurious lifestyle. But in the UFC the fighters are asking for a raise which UFC is not giving them. I think UFC has enough money to give more to the fighters. I believe that the fighters are entitled to it.

[YuginKadoya]

I would come up with a counteroffer and offer to summarize this year in UFC. We will have time to discuss future events, but, as we see everyone often make summarizes or year review, why not make our own?

I would gladly read about users thoughts about fight of the year, upset of the year, robbery of the year, knockout or submission of the year, amazement of the year and etc.

Well, it is a great idea, in my opinion, we can surely discuss certain upcoming fights and talk about what we think about who's going to get to win, but upon seeing many posts people would want to summarize certain fights that happen this year, and I think it is a great idea in making discussion about certain fights that happen this year that we could discuss if what we think what is our fight of the year, Robbery of the Year could be the recent fight of Jan Blachowicz VS Magomed Ankalaev was that was a robbery for Ankalaev, but I think this would need to have a voting and some nomination about the fight,

To many people, Jiu Jitsu, wrestling can seem boring. I have been enjoying it very much from the very beginning, it varies from person to person. Because as a matter of fact, Jiu Jitsu is a very very specific branch, I think you need to know a little about the subject to enjoy it. How to make armbar, how to do defense, then you start to guess while watching the fight, in which position, which temporary will do. I think they are very valuable because they are a complete flow.

I've heard that the UFC is on the decline, no, there were some great promotions this year. There were fights that I watched with great excitement. Therefore, maybe it may decline, due to the decisions taken in the results. There are still many referee decisions that are discussed in UFC. I even heard that an investigation was launched for a referee.

Yes! I really admit that I am really bored watching UFC when the fight goes to the ground with a takedown, but because I don't have any knowledge yet about what is happening and what is Jui-Jitsu actually, upon making research and knowledge in executing the technique, well I  was really shocked when how hard it is if one can pull off something like that and the stamina that a wrestler in exerting to execute it, it was really crazy, and because of that knowledge I was now really enjoying it a lot, and Khabib Nurmagomenodov was the one that put fire in making efforts in really taking knowledge about the craft,

[notblox1]

Eagle FC, and various other promotions are growing quite nicely, but that's just because mixed martial arts in general is gaining popularity. None of these promotions are currently competing with the UFC in terms of growth or popularity though. UFC almost has a Monopoly based on viewings. I guess you could probably say they do have the Monopoly.

I don't think so.
Fighters have more options nowadays and they are more aware that Dana White and UFC are exploiting them more than in any other professional sport.
When compared with NBA, NFL and other professional sports organizations UFC is taking much larger piece of cake and they live scraps to fighters.
There is no future when you have policy like that in capitalism.

[bbc.reporter]

I am quite certain that this is a shared opinion among much of the UFC commentators. Daniel Cormier, Michael Bisping, Joe Rogan, and the rest of them.

What is everyone's prediction on what is next for Paddy the baddy? How will he fix this problem on his image and hype everyone again to watch his fights? Will he improve as a mixed martial artist or will he decide to make it easier for himself and become the annoying loudmouth trashtalker who always loses his fights?



UFC commentator Laura Sanko takes a look at the decision win by Paddy Pimblett at UFC 282 and his immediate reaction to the scorecards.

The UFC 282 event that ended the year in terms of UFC PPV cards was filled with controversy. One bout that stood out was the co-main event between Paddy Pimblett and Jared Gordon.

Now looking back at the way he behaved after the fight, UFC commentator Laura Sanko thinks he handled it all wrong.

She went on to explain that even though he won that fight and regardless of how people scored it, the level of competition was up with the veteran Jard Gordon and Pimblett was not able to run through him as he has done in his first three UFC fights.

“When you have that moment where I feel like a lot of the audience wanted him to say, ‘Man, that was a close fight. I don’t know if I won that fight or not. I’m glad I got it on the judge’s scorecards love to go back and watch it, Jared’s great.’ I think his reaction to it did him a little bit of a disservice,” she said.

Source https://www.mmanews.com/2022/12/laura-sanko-paddy-pimblett-disservice/

[cabron]

I am quite certain that this is a shared opinion among much of the UFC commentators. Daniel Cormier, Michael Bisping, Joe Rogan, and the rest of them.

What is everyone's prediction on what is next for Paddy the baddy? How will he fix this problem on his image and hype everyone again to watch his fights? Will he improve as a mixed martial artist or will he decide to make it easier for himself and become the annoying loudmouth trashtalker who always loses his fights?



UFC commentator Laura Sanko takes a look at the decision win by Paddy Pimblett at UFC 282 and his immediate reaction to the scorecards.

The UFC 282 event that ended the year in terms of UFC PPV cards was filled with controversy. One bout that stood out was the co-main event between Paddy Pimblett and Jared Gordon.

Now looking back at the way he behaved after the fight, UFC commentator Laura Sanko thinks he handled it all wrong.

She went on to explain that even though he won that fight and regardless of how people scored it, the level of competition was up with the veteran Jard Gordon and Pimblett was not able to run through him as he has done in his first three UFC fights.

“When you have that moment where I feel like a lot of the audience wanted him to say, ‘Man, that was a close fight. I don’t know if I won that fight or not. I’m glad I got it on the judge’s scorecards love to go back and watch it, Jared’s great.’ I think his reaction to it did him a little bit of a disservice,” she said.

Source https://www.mmanews.com/2022/12/laura-sanko-paddy-pimblett-disservice/

Even Joe Rogan right when he started the fight interview already said it was a close fight.
If Dana is to keep hyping Paddy, I might just disagree with what Laura says Paddy going to get tougher opponents for his next fight all because he had beaten Jared. Dana will take care of him, Dana needs Paddy who gets attention from EU fans and subscribe to PPV but Paddy will fight someone who will not likely going to do what Jared did.

[inthelongrun]

Eagle FC, and various other promotions are growing quite nicely, but that's just because mixed martial arts in general is gaining popularity. None of these promotions are currently competing with the UFC in terms of growth or popularity though. UFC almost has a Monopoly based on viewings. I guess you could probably say they do have the Monopoly.

I don't think so.
Fighters have more options nowadays and they are more aware that Dana White and UFC are exploiting them more than in any other professional sport.
When compared with NBA, NFL and other professional sports organizations UFC is taking much larger piece of cake and they live scraps to fighters.
There is no future when you have policy like that in capitalism.

In terms of MMA viewership, I believe the UFC has so much edge and the following organizations like Bellator are not even close. So the UFC is close to being a monopoly. Purse sharing is an issue that can be taken advantage of by other organizations but only if they are also capable of offering better figures. Current UFC heavyweight champion Francis Ngannou still has no contract yet and is a free agent for nearly a year now. This could be a sign that the other MMA organizations do not have the financial capability to steal him away from the UFC. Although there is also the scenario that Ngannou is making himself unavailable as he still hopes for a Fury boxing exhibition that will pay him millions of dollars. I would love to see Francis getting paid big but knowing Fury's new career plans, it seems like the UFC champion might be forced to accept the best offer available right now which is likely coming from the UFC.

[TopTort777]

I think UFC will never pay millions or same rewards as there are in boxing. How often does a boxing promotion has an event? 1 or 2 per year? How many UFC events we have ? Nearly every week. Paying huge reward to someone means paying huge rewards to others also. Otherwise they will start a strike. If UFC really pays everyone multiple times more than they do now, imagine how much PPV or event tickets would cost. Will you be ready to pay 500 bucks to watch 4-8 fight on a TV ?

[YuginKadoya]

I don't think so.
Fighters have more options nowadays and they are more aware that Dana White and UFC are exploiting them more than in any other professional sport.
When compared with NBA, NFL and other professional sports organizations UFC is taking much larger piece of cake and they live scraps to fighters.
There is no future when you have policy like that in capitalism.

Well, I think people are used to these kinds of situations they are just used to getting that portion with the UFC, and people are OK with it, while UFC is using that in getting more, I really think this would stop when there are other combat sports out there that may triumph over UFC's popularity but giving the most generous salary for its fighters and in that case, fighters will switch to that Combat sports and UFC will realize that they need to take action by competing with that said Combat sports because pretty much it is really hard to attain that if people are used to these kinds of setup,

I am quite certain that this is a shared opinion among much of the UFC commentators. Daniel Cormier, Michael Bisping, Joe Rogan, and the rest of them.

What is everyone's prediction on what is next for Paddy the baddy? How will he fix this problem on his image and hype everyone again to watch his fights? Will he improve as a mixed martial artist or will he decide to make it easier for himself and become the annoying loudmouth trashtalker who always loses his fights?



UFC commentator Laura Sanko takes a look at the decision win by Paddy Pimblett at UFC 282 and his immediate reaction to the scorecards.

The UFC 282 event that ended the year in terms of UFC PPV cards was filled with controversy. One bout that stood out was the co-main event between Paddy Pimblett and Jared Gordon.

Now looking back at the way he behaved after the fight, UFC commentator Laura Sanko thinks he handled it all wrong.

She went on to explain that even though he won that fight and regardless of how people scored it, the level of competition was up with the veteran Jard Gordon and Pimblett was not able to run through him as he has done in his first three UFC fights.

After that Jared Gordon's fight against Paddy Pimblett, I will never look at Paddy Pimblett the same again, he needs to really improve himself and against a veteran and unranked fighter Jared Gordon, he is pushing his boundaries in beating him that goes to show that he isn't really ready yet for the big guns in the top 15, even though he didn't lose that fight the hype train is still derailed because of that performance, and for me, Jared Gordon should have won that,

And regarding the wrong scoring of the judges, not only the Co-Main Event but the Main Event aswell the Jan Blachowicz VS Magomed Ankalaev was a Robbery and the fans are not happy with the result and what Dana White has said about it, there shouldn't be anyone judging the fight if they are not be put to trial for the wrong judging they did, and if this is not fixed I think it is better to not have judges anymore,

[notblox1]

UFC is increasing price for PPV in 2023 and it's going to be $79.99, so more money for Dana White 
There are no fights in UFC in this period but interesting things are always happening in world of MMA and UFC, and I saw video of Jorge Masvidal arrest was released.
This happened after he attacked Colby Covington in public, but he was very relaxed, chatting and smiling with police officers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WcLMUSsXhg

[GxSTxV]

UFC is increasing price for PPV in 2023 and it's going to be $79.99, so more money for Dana White  
There are no fights in UFC in this period but interesting things are always happening in world of MMA and UFC, and I saw video of Jorge Masvidal arrest was released.
This happened after he attacked Colby Covington in public, but he was very relaxed, chatting and smiling with police officers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WcLMUSsXhg

Haha White never get enough and always ready to do anything to create attention or even rising the prices for 5 dollars, many will say it’s a small rise but with millions of subscriptions that’s a lot more money for Ufc.
Jorge Masvidal act was really disappointing jumping on his opponent Colby that he lost against him two weeks before this incident, no matter what was between them it’s unprofessional and unacceptable for ufc fighter to jump on anyone in the streets. The whole story started after Colby said that Jorge is a dead heart dad that doesn’t talk with his own kids knowing that Colby has a relationship with Jorge’s ex wife and even talked with his kids. That’s what upset him and did this thing

[YuginKadoya]

UFC is increasing price for PPV in 2023 and it's going to be $79.99, so more money for Dana White  
There are no fights in UFC in this period but interesting things are always happening in world of MMA and UFC, and I saw video of Jorge Masvidal arrest was released.
This happened after he attacked Colby Covington in public, but he was very relaxed, chatting and smiling with police officers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WcLMUSsXhg

Dana White just wants to be rich and without giving any conclusion regarding the recent fight Robbery on the UFC 282 | Błachowicz vs. Ankalaev well regarding that I think I can not trust any decision fights that are happening with the UFC, if a fighter really wants a win he needs to knock out or Submits his opponent,

Jorge Masvidal is turning into a Psychopath I really think he needs medical attention the grudge he has against Colby Covington might be into deep for him to do such things, and for me, I was really envious of Covington having a Beautiful anime loving girlfriend Polyana Viana and in recent wins of Polyana Viana she recently tweeted this and I was really shocked, I never thought that Covington will have a fetish for such things, for me Polyana needs a respectful guy in her side, (just like me) just kidding,




And just in BREAKING! Marlon Vera vs Cory Sandhagen, I really thought that Vera will have a shot at Sean O'Malley in a rematch but having a fight with Sandhagen is still a big fight, but for me, a rematch will be a great deal now that O'Malley is in the higher ranks and really to take on Aljamain Sterling, but yeah It is official that the Marlon Vera VS Cory Sandhagen fight will surely be a great watch and it will take place on February 18, 2023, next year,

[TopTort777]

The more breaking news is Texeira vs Hill. I remember that Texeira refused Ankalaev and Blachowicz, because he was waiting for Prochazka (who is recovering quickly, injury seems to not so bad + there is a funny story behind that injury), and now he has chosen Hill. Hill supposed to meet Antony Smith (who seems to be a much better opponent for Texeira) march 2023. But Hill was pulled out to face Texeira January 22. Basically Hill has 1 month to prepare against a BJJ guy, former champ, while being a basic boxer, during Xmas while being a father of 6 Good Luck.

[Welsh]

Fighter pay will likely be rectified. Eventually, the UFC will be feeling the competition from the other organisations, but they'll be able to easily compete with that since they've basically been building a cash cow. The UFC is probably as close as you can get to a monopoly. I don't see any other organisation challenging them in the next 10 years. I could be wrong on that, but in terms of viewership, and popularity the UFC will probably remain at the top for quite some time.

[tokeweed]

The more breaking news is Texeira vs Hill. I remember that Texeira refused Ankalaev and Blachowicz, because he was waiting for Prochazka (who is recovering quickly, injury seems to not so bad + there is a funny story behind that injury), and now he has chosen Hill. Hill supposed to meet Antony Smith (who seems to be a much better opponent for Texeira) march 2023. But Hill was pulled out to face Texeira January 22. Basically Hill has 1 month to prepare against a BJJ guy, former champ, while being a basic boxer, during Xmas while being a father of 6 Good Luck.

If Hill can't defend Teixeira's TD's I think it's gonna be a long night for Hill.  Hopefully he fixed his holes in the wrestling and grappling department.  The old guy can still fight.  Cardio's a bit shot tho as shown in his match against Prochazka.  But Teixeira prolly learned from it and fixed it. 

As for Teixeira, he should be clinching a lot and grind Hill against the cage as Hill has a bit of power in hands.  I rate Hill's boxing slightly better than Prochazka's.

[YuginKadoya]

The more breaking news is Texeira vs Hill. I remember that Texeira refused Ankalaev and Blachowicz, because he was waiting for Prochazka (who is recovering quickly, injury seems to not so bad + there is a funny story behind that injury), and now he has chosen Hill. Hill supposed to meet Antony Smith (who seems to be a much better opponent for Texeira) march 2023. But Hill was pulled out to face Texeira January 22. Basically Hill has 1 month to prepare against a BJJ guy, former champ, while being a basic boxer, during Xmas while being a father of 6 Good Luck.

I have watched the Video "My Mistake" and yeah Jiri Prochazka is really doing fine, and Magomed Ankalaev was there when it happen that shoulder injury, he was taking light sparring with Ankalaev's team, it was really rare for Prochazka and Ankalaev to be on the same sparring session and on the same division well I think Prochazka is really preparing for Glover Texeira and Magomed Ankalaev is the right decision to make the fight with Texeira a bit easy, that is why Prochazka even though he is seen with good striking also when faced on the ground Glover Texeira is having a hardtime against him,

But talking about the upcoming Light Heavyweight fight with Glover Texeira VS Jamahal Hill It will be an interesting one, but for me, Glover Texeira has the advantage in my opinion but let's just wait, for me Jamahal Hil will need to enhance his takedown defense against Texeira, of even add the ground game to his arsenal,

Fighter pay will likely be rectified. Eventually, the UFC will be feeling the competition from the other organisations, but they'll be able to easily compete with that since they've basically been building a cash cow. The UFC is probably as close as you can get to a monopoly. I don't see any other organisation challenging them in the next 10 years. I could be wrong on that, but in terms of viewership, and popularity the UFC will probably remain at the top for quite some time.

Yup! it could be that far for some competition just like the UFC showing up on their doorstep, and knocking that they are now with the level of competition just like the UFC, well for me UFC will likely be famous for reason that they aren't giving a full amount of money to the fighters but it was going to the company to increase the companies greatness but apparently, this is why it is hard for other combat sports to be on the level of the UFC, Dana White just really did a great job in getting this company rises so it is very hard to out thrown the UFC from the number 1 spot,