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July 10, 2023, 02:25:10 PM
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What was that thing with Robbie Lawler? Did he retire? Or was it just a celebratuon of his 30th victory? I did not manage to watch all tha post fight thing. Saw a KO, repeat but then the tv channel was switches… It is about time for him to retire. 40+ already. Remember him when he had hair and ufc fighters got funny retro trunks  Grin

Yes, he did retire. It was about time. The dude was 41. This was a good fight for him though. Managing to knock someone out who is 33, at the age of 41 is actually really good. I have to say he had a decent career. Probably not one of the best in my opinion. But anyway, congratulations on his win and the best of luck for his future endeavours.

His career record is 30-16-0-1NC.

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July 10, 2023, 04:10:07 PM
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What was that thing with Robbie Lawler? Did he retire? Or was it just a celebratuon of his 30th victory? I did not manage to watch all tha post fight thing. Saw a KO, repeat but then the tv channel was switches… It is about time for him to retire. 40+ already. Remember him when he had hair and ufc fighters got funny retro trunks  Grin

Yes, he did retire. It was about time. The dude was 41. This was a good fight for him though. Managing to knock someone out who is 33, at the age of 41 is actually really good. I have to say he had a decent career. Probably not one of the best in my opinion. But anyway, congratulations on his win and the best of luck for his future endeavours.

His career record is 30-16-0-1NC.

Yep. You don't see a 41yr old knocking out ruthlessly a younger fighter everyday.
Better to retire winning the last fight than retiring while you crawl out of the cage. In his retirement fight Lawler did the fastest KO of his career which is 38 seconds. Very worth it day to announce his retirement. Nico Price must have thought, Lawler could be his easy win but turns out a losing steak for him.  

It always sound like a retirement day when 41 yr old fighter is scheduled to fight like Holly Holm. Dana I guess is terminating old contracts.



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July 10, 2023, 05:16:14 PM
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Yep. You don't see a 41yr old knocking out ruthlessly a younger fighter everyday.
Better to retire winning the last fight than retiring while you crawl out of the cage. In his retirement fight Lawler did the fastest KO of his career which is 38 seconds. Very worth it day to announce his retirement. Nico Price must have thought, Lawler could be his easy win but turns out a losing steak for him.  

It always sound like a retirement day when 41 yr old fighter is scheduled to fight like Holly Holm. Dana I guess is terminating old contracts.

I don’t think this was a great career for him. But I do think that this was a great finish to his career. After all, who does not want to finish his career with a great knockout at the age of 41?

I honestly did not think that he will be able to win this fight. Not because he is a bad fighter. But because he is just too old. And the statistics of him and his opponent are basically similar. The only major difference between them was probably his experience. But again congratulations to him for his win.

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Was not surprised that Pantoja would win. He is like a cryptonite fo Superman, like Pereira for Izzy  Grin
Now I think Pantoja would defende his belt against Kratos, and then would probably face Moreno again. And only then, Moreno would win.

Btw guys, what do you think about series of 3-4 fights between one and the same fighters? Does it makes division boring or pause for others. Is it ok, as other fighters level aint that good as those who have series.

That Pantoja win is full of controversy so I think that Dana White will do something about that and will surely make a rematch on this and For Brandon Moreno is used to back-to-back fights like this he surely has a great back-to-back fight against Deiveson Figueiredo and eventually has proven his worth by winning that fight so maybe we can see a rematch between the two for sure,

Well In getting a series of 3 - 4 fights with the same fighters for me I am OK with it as long as they will show a banger of a fight, for example, the Israel Adesanya fight with Alex Pereira, that Deiveson Figueiredo and Brandon Moreno back to back fight has something different and exciting every time these two fights so I am OK with it it is good if we are not expecting the result ahead but if it was completely one-sided,


Rodriguez was never able to find an approach to Volkanovski, despite the advantage in height, he just tried to get Volkanovski, but instead he ran into a series of blows, after rapprochement. Actually Rodriguez noticeably fizzled out in the second round. In the third round, the same mistakes and in close combat, Rodriguez missed a blow to the jaw and Volkanovski, in the usual manner, transferred Rodriguez to the floor and ended the fight with a series of blows. If evaluate the fight, then everything was under the complete control of Volkanovski, and in fact, Rodriguez had no chance.

That series of blow of kicks to Volkanovski was entering Volkanovski those are good kicks for Rodriguez and surely Alexander Volkanovski isn't really perfect he doesn't really have a defense against those kicks but in order for him to read Rodriguez fight sequence he let that hit I'm on purpose but the time he gets used to yair Rodriguez sequence of strikes he already knew when to enter it and take Yair a solid punch then takedown to ground and pound, for me that has rocked Yair Rodriguez with solid damage from there,

What was that thing with Robbie Lawler? Did he retire? Or was it just a celebratuon of his 30th victory? I did not manage to watch all tha post fight thing. Saw a KO, repeat but then the tv channel was switches… It is about time for him to retire. 40+ already. Remember him when he had hair and ufc fighters got funny retro trunks  Grin

He retired men, it was his retirement fight that is why Joe Rogan said this in the ring interview and he stated "I am here for the last time the Ruthless Robbie Lawler and that was a storybook ending to an absolutely spectacular career and so on" from that start of an interview I already realized that this is it and this is the ending of his career at the UFC, that is why Joe Rogan was adding the last KO of Lawlers spectacular career, I was a retirement ceremony For Robbie Lawler and watching this surely have tears in Lawler's eyes, here are the Video of that interview,

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July 10, 2023, 08:05:40 PM
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Looks like we got the same result lol I only got Volkanovski right. Very hard to predict which fighter is going to win these days. Even the bookie thought DDP will lose the fight but just look at how it ends. Moreno who I think will dominate as well gets tagged many times.

I think it would have been worth going all-in for Nickal despite the small percentage of win amount. Seem like the bookie had assured to meet the expectation.

It was really a surprising result actually there are a lot of things that are likely for a fighter to win and lose and you are right it is very unpredictable at times but if you look at the paper that fighter can surely win that fight but end up losing because of some factors and for example, the Brandon Moreno VS Alexandre Pantoja fight it was a decision win for Alexandre Pantoja, the aspect of Pantoja winning because of the Judges scorecard he win this fight, in case of Volkanovski that was really a masterful class performance for him that likely I want to see him fight another decent guy, and for me Ilia Topuria before his rematch with Makhachev,


This was a great fight card with lots of KO wins and only four decision wins!
Volkanovski is back on top for featherweight category but now he needs to do the same thing in lightweight category with Islam Makhachev rematch.
I would really want to see if he can perform better and beat Makhachev, but this is not going to be easy to do with guy who is like Khabib 2 Smiley
Biggest surprise for me in this card was Alexandre Pantoja winning against Brandon Moreno, but it was only a split decision thanks to refs again.


The Khabib version 2.0 is something that Islam Makhachev wants to hear for sure but Alexander Volkanovski has proven that he also has wrestling in his game and he has shown it against Yair Rodriguez and that strength of Volkanovski is really legit for me he surely got a chance in beating Islam, because of that performance but surely it is on for another story because for me I want to see Ilia Topuria getting a shot to the title match against Volkanovski,

Alexandre Pantoja winning was thanks to the Judges score card which was likely a robbery but Pantoja really showed that he is harder to beat fighter for sure and it was really a close match but giving all the rounds to Pantoja is really not a good thing to see,

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July 11, 2023, 08:44:45 AM
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That Pantoja win is full of controversy so I think that Dana White will do something about that and will surely make a rematch on this and For Brandon Moreno is used to back-to-back fights like this he surely has a great back-to-back fight against Deiveson Figueiredo and eventually has proven his worth by winning that fight so maybe we can see a rematch between the two for sure,

The fight was good, but I see no real controversy there. Maybe that judge, that gave 4-1 in Moreno favour was blind, but that still will be a split. I would not call a robbery. I often check http://mmadecisions.com/ if there is a controversial fight, but many independent judges gave victory to Pantoja. Anyway, I am glad that current champ is not Figueiredo or Moreno. That loss will stimulate Moreno to prepare for fights more seriously.

I really liked Nickal vs Woodburn fight. Everyone (probably) were expecting submission, but Bo surprised everyone with boxing Cheesy

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July 11, 2023, 12:27:09 PM
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^  Yup, the only value line there was Nickal via KO/TKO at 3.05.  It had a better chance in real time than on paper as Val Woodburn took the fight on short notice.  I hope Nickal's next fight will be vs a grappler with some striking like Caio Borralho.  That would be a sweet match up.  

As for Moreno, don't know why a lot of folks were so confident in him like he was some sort of solid pressure based fighter.  He isn't.  Anyway, don't know if I want to see a rematch.  I'd rather see Pantoja vs Albazi.

Here a couple of replays to watch for our banger main event this weekend.

UFC Free Fight:  Holm vs Santos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQyj2HsutvA

UFC Free Fight:  Bueno Silva vs Lansberg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TedhOqdmZVw

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July 11, 2023, 01:30:38 PM
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I really liked Nickal vs Woodburn fight. Everyone (probably) were expecting submission, but Bo surprised everyone with boxing Cheesy
Nickal finished the fight in a very epic way of fighting, he managed to knock Woodburn down with just a very hard punch.
The victory has added to the record winning streak he got, this fight is proof that Woodburn is just a newcomer who is not on par with Nickal.
We were all amazed by Nickal's victory because it only took 38 seconds to knock Woodburn down and lose by TKO.

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July 11, 2023, 02:56:15 PM
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African fans of UFC has never been this confused, the continent is divided already, all the sport stations on radio in  Nigeria are all debating about the Dricus and Israel Adesayan crash, after Dricus beats Robert W. to qualified to fight his Africa brother for the middle belt champion. @Israel Adesayan the champion, both of them are Africans regardless whats they said in the ring to each other, we are rooting for both of them to succeed.

whosever, wins in this encounter no matter much to Africans, we just want to watch two brothers fighting dirty for the title, and would support the winner.
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After one or 2 more fights of Nickal I think he could already get a title shot if Dana gives him a fast track. It's too soon but he already said he wants to fight Khamzat and Adesanya.

African fans of UFC has never been this confused, the continent is divided already, all the sport stations on radio in  Nigeria are all debating about the Dricus and Israel Adesayan crash, after Dricus beats Robert W. to qualified to fight his Africa brother for the middle belt champion. @Israel Adesayan the champion, both of them are Africans regardless whats they said in the ring to each other, we are rooting for both of them to succeed.

whosever, wins in this encounter no matter much to Africans, we just want to watch two brothers fighting dirty for the title, and would support the winner.

Dricus looking for support from African people while Adesanya doesn't need much to ask because they can tell he is from Africa by the color of his skin. Dricus point is that he is born in Africa and currently resides in Africa unlike those who claimed to fight for Africa. It feels like it will be a political issue soon.



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After one or 2 more fights of Nickal I think he could already get a title shot if Dana gives him a fast track. It's too soon but he already said he wants to fight Khamzat and Adesanya.

African fans of UFC has never been this confused, the continent is divided already, all the sport stations on radio in  Nigeria are all debating about the Dricus and Israel Adesayan crash, after Dricus beats Robert W. to qualified to fight his Africa brother for the middle belt champion. @Israel Adesayan the champion, both of them are Africans regardless whats they said in the ring to each other, we are rooting for both of them to succeed.

whosever, wins in this encounter no matter much to Africans, we just want to watch two brothers fighting dirty for the title, and would support the winner.

Dricus looking for support from African people while Adesanya doesn't need much to ask because they can tell he is from Africa by the color of his skin. Dricus point is that he is born in Africa and currently resides in Africa unlike those who claimed to fight for Africa. It feels like it will be a political issue soon.

That's pretty hilarious because by the logic that Du Plessis cannot be African because of being white, Adesanya cannot be New Zealander. Not to mention that RSA, just like most (if not all) of sub-saharan countries was founded by whites and the vast majority of its black population immigrated into it.
It's also funny how Adesanya didn't have a problem performing under the Chinese flag at the beginning of his career, which makes him look like an absolute sell-out who only returned to calling himself Nigerian because it's a huge country with a huge audience.

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I saw a picture of Mark Zuckerberg training with Izzy. It sure seems like Mark is really pushing this MMA training seriously. I’m not sure Elon understands the weight of what he’s up against. I’m no fan of the Zuck by any means, but he’s clearly in good shape and is putting the work in with some of the best in the sport. I think that effort is being underestimated.

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I really liked Nickal vs Woodburn fight. Everyone (probably) were expecting submission, but Bo surprised everyone with boxing Cheesy
Nickal finished the fight in a very epic way of fighting, he managed to knock Woodburn down with just a very hard punch.
The victory has added to the record winning streak he got, this fight is proof that Woodburn is just a newcomer who is not on par with Nickal.
We were all amazed by Nickal's victory because it only took 38 seconds to knock Woodburn down and lose by TKO.

That is not because Woodburn is a newcomer, but because Nickal is on another level. At first, Woodburn agreed to jump in the fight card on a very short notice. Second, Nickal had so many wrestling fights in the past and ncaa awards, that he can allow himself to fight so risky against an opponent as Woodburn. Even if Woodburn countered Nickals punches and daze hin, Nickal would anyway move fight to the ground and choke him.

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July 12, 2023, 10:17:27 AM
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Nickal finished the fight in a very epic way of fighting, he managed to knock Woodburn down with just a very hard punch.
The victory has added to the record winning streak he got, this fight is proof that Woodburn is just a newcomer who is not on par with Nickal.
We were all amazed by Nickal's victory because it only took 38 seconds to knock Woodburn down and lose by TKO.

I just watched the replay and it was an epic win for Bo Nickal, well Val Woodburn is not a push over fighter, he surely has the power to knockout his opponent and and durability to withstand punches but against Bo Nickal it was a surprising win for Nickal actually, but surely I haven't got interest in betting for that fight because I really don't have any insight about Woodburn, but I never expect Bo Nickal could have a great knockout win againt Woodburn,

African fans of UFC has never been this confused, the continent is divided already, all the sport stations on radio in  Nigeria are all debating about the Dricus and Israel Adesayan crash, after Dricus beats Robert W. to qualified to fight his Africa brother for the middle belt champion. @Israel Adesayan the champion, both of them are Africans regardless whats they said in the ring to each other, we are rooting for both of them to succeed.

whosever, wins in this encounter no matter much to Africans, we just want to watch two brothers fighting dirty for the title, and would support the winner.

I am still confused about Dricus Du Plessis Nationality but that is what it is he is a African, I really though at 1st that he is an American, because of the color of his skin, but I think I will stop there many would call me a racist for getting into the color of his skin and Israel Adesanya is a New Zeland, Nigerian, that for sure many in South Africa is a fan of Israel Adesanya but still because Du Plessis is a African they are now torn between the two, well if there are something like that and it is from my country and his opponent will be my favorite fighter I will also be torn between the two,


That is not because Woodburn is a newcomer, but because Nickal is on another level. At first, Woodburn agreed to jump in the fight card on a very short notice. Second, Nickal had so many wrestling fights in the past and ncaa awards, that he can allow himself to fight so risky against an opponent as Woodburn. Even if Woodburn countered Nickals punches and daze hin, Nickal would anyway move fight to the ground and choke him.

Like I said Woodburn is not a push over for me he got the solid strength of a Heavyweight fighter but when it comes to technique, skills and technicality on the fight Bo Nickal is up for grabs for sure well Val Woodburn is going on Bo Nickal without hesitation because this is a ranking fight for him but he surely underestimated Nickal for thinking he is only a run on the mill fighter,

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Nickal finished the fight in a very epic way of fighting, he managed to knock Woodburn down with just a very hard punch.
The victory has added to the record winning streak he got, this fight is proof that Woodburn is just a newcomer who is not on par with Nickal.
We were all amazed by Nickal's victory because it only took 38 seconds to knock Woodburn down and lose by TKO.

I just watched the replay and it was an epic win for Bo Nickal, well Val Woodburn is not a push over fighter, he surely has the power to knockout his opponent and and durability to withstand punches but against Bo Nickal it was a surprising win for Nickal actually, but surely I haven't got interest in betting for that fight because I really don't have any insight about Woodburn, but I never expect Bo Nickal could have a great knockout win againt Woodburn,

African fans of UFC has never been this confused, the continent is divided already, all the sport stations on radio in  Nigeria are all debating about the Dricus and Israel Adesayan crash, after Dricus beats Robert W. to qualified to fight his Africa brother for the middle belt champion. @Israel Adesayan the champion, both of them are Africans regardless whats they said in the ring to each other, we are rooting for both of them to succeed.

whosever, wins in this encounter no matter much to Africans, we just want to watch two brothers fighting dirty for the title, and would support the winner.

I am still confused about Dricus Du Plessis Nationality but that is what it is he is a African, I really though at 1st that he is an American, because of the color of his skin, but I think I will stop there many would call me a racist for getting into the color of his skin and Israel Adesanya is a New Zeland, Nigerian, that for sure many in South Africa is a fan of Israel Adesanya but still because Du Plessis is a African they are now torn between the two, well if there are something like that and it is from my country and his opponent will be my favorite fighter I will also be torn between the two,


That is not because Woodburn is a newcomer, but because Nickal is on another level. At first, Woodburn agreed to jump in the fight card on a very short notice. Second, Nickal had so many wrestling fights in the past and ncaa awards, that he can allow himself to fight so risky against an opponent as Woodburn. Even if Woodburn countered Nickals punches and daze hin, Nickal would anyway move fight to the ground and choke him.

Like I said Woodburn is not a push over for me he got the solid strength of a Heavyweight fighter but when it comes to technique, skills and technicality on the fight Bo Nickal is up for grabs for sure well Val Woodburn is going on Bo Nickal without hesitation because this is a ranking fight for him but he surely underestimated Nickal for thinking he is only a run on the mill fighter,


Both fighters are from the Africa Origin, Adesayan is from Nigeria a Yoruba tribe, he speaks the yoruba language, he visit and has given helping hands in Nigeria too.  lets not argue much about their Origin, Dricus Da is from South Africa, in South Africa we have the black and white race, let the skin colour no bother you.

in Africa, Nigeria as the giant of Africa is being jealous by the South Africa, they feel their deserve to be call the giant of Africa than Nigeria. this match between the two brothers will turn to a political ideal war. in Nigeria people are mobilizing funds to be at the stage enmass to support Adesanya.  it will be very interesting match. looking forward for it.
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I saw a picture of Mark Zuckerberg training with Izzy. It sure seems like Mark is really pushing this MMA training seriously. I’m not sure Elon understands the weight of what he’s up against. I’m no fan of the Zuck by any means, but he’s clearly in good shape and is putting the work in with some of the best in the sport. I think that effort is being underestimated.

They are really something when it comes to their own words I don't know if this is really gonna happen but considering their coaches are great UFC fighters, surely the fight won't become boring like just another celebrity fight we have seen on the internet. But one thing for sure is, they are not doing this for nothing because we all know that businessmen always have it all planned before they even have some fuss on social media. they probably cooking something in the process while making these noises all over the internet right now, maybe just some kind of promotion for Zuck's new social media called Thread.

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I really liked Nickal vs Woodburn fight. Everyone (probably) were expecting submission, but Bo surprised everyone with boxing Cheesy
Nickal finished the fight in a very epic way of fighting, he managed to knock Woodburn down with just a very hard punch.
The victory has added to the record winning streak he got, this fight is proof that Woodburn is just a newcomer who is not on par with Nickal.
We were all amazed by Nickal's victory because it only took 38 seconds to knock Woodburn down and lose by TKO.

That is not because Woodburn is a newcomer, but because Nickal is on another level. At first, Woodburn agreed to jump in the fight card on a very short notice. Second, Nickal had so many wrestling fights in the past and ncaa awards, that he can allow himself to fight so risky against an opponent as Woodburn. Even if Woodburn countered Nickals punches and daze hin, Nickal would anyway move fight to the ground and choke him.
I say Woodburn is a newcomer because he is far from comparable to Nickal, anyone who really follows UFC and MMA developments would have guessed from the start that Woodburn would be rendered helpless against Nickal.
Everything has been proven that Nickal is indeed a capable and strong fighter so that next time Woodburn should be able to have a better decision so as not to suffer the same defeat.


Nickal finished the fight in a very epic way of fighting, he managed to knock Woodburn down with just a very hard punch.
The victory has added to the record winning streak he got, this fight is proof that Woodburn is just a newcomer who is not on par with Nickal.
We were all amazed by Nickal's victory because it only took 38 seconds to knock Woodburn down and lose by TKO.

I just watched the replay and it was an epic win for Bo Nickal, well Val Woodburn is not a push over fighter, he surely has the power to knockout his opponent and and durability to withstand punches but against Bo Nickal it was a surprising win for Nickal actually, but surely I haven't got interest in betting for that fight because I really don't have any insight about Woodburn, but I never expect Bo Nickal could have a great knockout win againt Woodburn,
I replayed a few times when Nickal threw a shot that knocked Woodburn to the ground because it was such a spectacular shot.
The point is that Nickal really put out the strength in his grip so that it could shoot like a bullet through steel.

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July 12, 2023, 05:37:17 PM
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Both fighters are from the Africa Origin, Adesayan is from Nigeria a Yoruba tribe, he speaks the yoruba language, he visit and has given helping hands in Nigeria too.  lets not argue much about their Origin, Dricus Da is from South Africa, in South Africa we have the black and white race, let the skin colour no bother you.

in Africa, Nigeria as the giant of Africa is being jealous by the South Africa, they feel their deserve to be call the giant of Africa than Nigeria. this match between the two brothers will turn to a political ideal war. in Nigeria people are mobilizing funds to be at the stage enmass to support Adesanya.  it will be very interesting match. looking forward for it.

It adds up the spice for their fight actually. Izzy I think will take Dricus seriously in their division because of this. No wearing of flags soon, it just going to ruin the party.

Meanwhile, UFC Vegas 77 has the most uninteresting matchups. Dana must have plaans to make Holm vs Pena soon for the vacant.
There was a rumor about Rousey coming back to UFC which I guess is also part of Dana's plan for the women's division.


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I saw a picture of Mark Zuckerberg training with Izzy. It sure seems like Mark is really pushing this MMA training seriously. I’m not sure Elon understands the weight of what he’s up against. I’m no fan of the Zuck by any means, but he’s clearly in good shape and is putting the work in with some of the best in the sport. I think that effort is being underestimated.
They are really something when it comes to their own words I don't know if this is really gonna happen but considering their coaches are great UFC fighters, surely the fight won't become boring like just another celebrity fight we have seen on the internet. But one thing for sure is, they are not doing this for nothing because we all know that businessmen always have it all planned before they even have some fuss on social media. they probably cooking something in the process while making these noises all over the internet right now, maybe just some kind of promotion for Zuck's new social media called Thread.

First of all, I don’t think it is going to happen, and I also think that Elon Musk is just trolling. A lot of people don't know, but Mark Zuckerberg is actually a black belt in jujitsu as far as I know. He was the winner of a jujitsu competition which was held during the time of Covid. Probably he is just draining and trying to get better. But at the same time, I do not underestimate the chance of the fight happening. There is a genuine chance that we will actually see them fight against each other. But right now I think Elon Musk is just having fun. Otherwise, I think Elon Musk would have trained for the fight. But instead of that, we see him posting different photos of himself being out of shape on Twitter.

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