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October 14, 2019, 05:02:25 PM
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Wow!!!!!!

Parties might be able to enjoy a decent amount of flexibility in terms of settling some of the matters involving payments to each other, including attornies' fees and damages and perhaps even the construction of statements regarding the extent to which they agree (or not) that the fraudster is satoshi... however, the sanctions matter would remain something that is of public concern, and I doubt that any agreement between the parties would have much, if any, affect upon the court's deliberations on those kinds of public concerns, so getting any potential sanctions leniency would be a matter regarding how persuasive the fraudster's attorney is able to be in presenting the fraudster's various defenses and justifications to present facts and argue logic (maybe asking for mercy or forgiveness) for why that diptwat should not be sanctioned with severe consequences.

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October 14, 2019, 08:18:15 PM
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Wow!!!!!!

Parties might be able to enjoy a decent amount of flexibility in terms of settling some of the matters involving payments to each other, including attornies' fees and damages and perhaps even the construction of statements regarding the extent to which they agree (or not) that the fraudster is satoshi... however, the sanctions matter would remain something that is of public concern, and I doubt that any agreement between the parties would have much, if any, affect upon the court's deliberations on those kinds of public concerns, so getting any potential sanctions leniency would be a matter regarding how persuasive the fraudster's attorney is able to be in presenting the fraudster's various defenses and justifications to present facts and argue logic (maybe asking for mercy or forgiveness) for why that diptwat should not be sanctioned with severe consequences.


The biggest sanctions are that the court has publicly voiced that Dr Wright intentionally submitted fraudulent documents to the court,  obstructed a judicial proceeding, and gave perjurious  testimony.

My opinion:

He has effectively forgone his ability to present evidence and now has zero credibility in court. It now is only a matter of how much it will cost him.

Any time he lies in the process just gives the plaintiffs the ability to re-litigate any settlement. CSW lying is a gift that just keeps on giving to them.

For the plaintiff -  the only part they have to gain by negotiations is the ease of getting an actual settlement without having to chase the payment through various jurisdictions and getting physical possession.

For CSW - his liberty and all his (and those in trusts) worldly possessions are potentially on the line. 




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October 14, 2019, 08:26:24 PM
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Wow!!!!!!

Parties might be able to enjoy a decent amount of flexibility in terms of settling some of the matters involving payments to each other, including attornies' fees and damages and perhaps even the construction of statements regarding the extent to which they agree (or not) that the fraudster is satoshi... however, the sanctions matter would remain something that is of public concern, and I doubt that any agreement between the parties would have much, if any, affect upon the court's deliberations on those kinds of public concerns, so getting any potential sanctions leniency would be a matter regarding how persuasive the fraudster's attorney is able to be in presenting the fraudster's various defenses and justifications to present facts and argue logic (maybe asking for mercy or forgiveness) for why that diptwat should not be sanctioned with severe consequences.


The biggest sanctions are that the court has publicly voiced that Dr Wright intentionally submitted fraudulent documents to the court,  obstructed a judicial proceeding, and gave perjurious  testimony.

My opinion:

He has effectively forgone his ability to present evidence and now has zero credibility in court. It now is only a matter of how much it will cost him.

Any time he lies in the process just gives the plaintiffs the ability to re-litigate any settlement. CSW lying is a gift that just keeps on giving to them.

For the plaintiff -  the only part they have to gain by negotiations is the ease of getting an actual settlement without having to chase the payment through various jurisdictions and getting physical possession.

For CSW - his liberty and all his (and those in trusts) worldly possessions are potentially on the line.  

Good point to indicate that it is quite likely that abilities to submit evidence about the already determinations resubmitting fraud docs, obstructing proceedings and proving perjurious testimony would be limited, yet there should still be various appeal processes - and courts frequently will error on the side of making sure that parties are allowed to provide evidence and arguments (which surely, like you suggested, might not take them very far, but still CSW likely still has those kinds of rights).

Regarding liberty, he might not want to show up.  Regarding assets, I am sure that he already has attempted to employ a fairly aloof system of hiding assets, to the extent that he has any that are actually owned outright.

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October 14, 2019, 08:36:44 PM
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Regarding liberty, he might not want to show up.  Regarding assets, I am sure that he already has attempted to employ a fairly aloof system of hiding assets, to the extent that he has any that are actually owned outright.
My opinion:

His liberty is not only dependent on whether the judge will throw him in jail.

It hasn't stopped him in the past - he has been sentenced to jail before:
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In 2004, Wright was convicted of contempt of court by the Supreme Court of New South Wales. He was sentenced to 28 days in jail for breaching an injunction that prevented him from approaching customers of DeMorgan Information Security Systems, from which he resigned in 2003. The sentence was suspended on condition of performing 250 hours of community service.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Steven_Wright

It might also affect his liberty in regards to his ability to travel in future.

He has been moving funds through various jurisdictions without paying taxes.

Court orders to seize funds, orders to prove the location of funds etc may open him up to more "issues".

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October 14, 2019, 10:38:02 PM
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Regarding liberty, he might not want to show up.  Regarding assets, I am sure that he already has attempted to employ a fairly aloof system of hiding assets, to the extent that he has any that are actually owned outright.
My opinion:

His liberty is not only dependent on whether the judge will throw him in jail.

It hasn't stopped him in the past - he has been sentenced to jail before:
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In 2004, Wright was convicted of contempt of court by the Supreme Court of New South Wales. He was sentenced to 28 days in jail for breaching an injunction that prevented him from approaching customers of DeMorgan Information Security Systems, from which he resigned in 2003. The sentence was suspended on condition of performing 250 hours of community service.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Steven_Wright

It might also affect his liberty in regards to his ability to travel in future.

He has been moving funds through various jurisdictions without paying taxes.

Court orders to seize funds, orders to prove the location of funds etc may open him up to more "issues".

In the vein of the pot calling the kettle black ...


"Ira Kleiman didn't win cuz now he has to pay a huge estate tax on them 500,000 bitcoins that the fucktard court awarded him."

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October 14, 2019, 11:12:30 PM
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Regarding liberty, he might not want to show up.  Regarding assets, I am sure that he already has attempted to employ a fairly aloof system of hiding assets, to the extent that he has any that are actually owned outright.
My opinion:

His liberty is not only dependent on whether the judge will throw him in jail.

It hasn't stopped him in the past - he has been sentenced to jail before:
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In 2004, Wright was convicted of contempt of court by the Supreme Court of New South Wales. He was sentenced to 28 days in jail for breaching an injunction that prevented him from approaching customers of DeMorgan Information Security Systems, from which he resigned in 2003. The sentence was suspended on condition of performing 250 hours of community service.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Steven_Wright

It might also affect his liberty in regards to his ability to travel in future.

He has been moving funds through various jurisdictions without paying taxes.

Court orders to seize funds, orders to prove the location of funds etc may open him up to more "issues".

In the vein of the pot calling the kettle black ...


"Ira Kleiman didn't win cuz now he has to pay a huge estate tax on them 500,000 bitcoins that the fucktard court awarded him."

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I’m the asshole who keeps inventing things that other people need. I’m not the good media personality. You think I’m gonna complain because I only get to keep $6 billion? And I’m the only surviving member of Satoshi? The judge ruled it was a partnership. I’m the asshole Satoshi. And Dave was the nice one. So have a nice day.

https://modernconsensus.com/cryptocurrencies/bitcoin/exclusive-interview-with-craig-wright-just-after-ordered-to-pay-5-billion-in-bitcoin/

The judge never ruled on whether CSW or Kleiman was Satoshi or a "team". So in my opinion there is amble reason to disbelieve the other stuff CSW says too.

Kleiman only has to pay tax on something that he gets possession of. I personally doubt that Wright ever had access to the Satoshi bitcoins.
In my opinion it is huff and puff intended to scare people holding the real bitcoins. The satoshi coins would equally affect forks like BCASH and BSV - perhaps worse for them because they have fewer people interested in purchasing them.

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October 15, 2019, 12:35:04 PM
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I’m the asshole who keeps inventing things that other people need. I’m not the good media personality. You think I’m gonna complain because I only get to keep $6 billion? And I’m the only surviving member of Satoshi? The judge ruled it was a partnership. I’m the asshole Satoshi. And Dave was the nice one. So have a nice day.

As far as I know, the real Satoshi NEVER showed signs of being an asshole.

Let's play Can You Spot the Asshole?


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October 15, 2019, 12:47:43 PM
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As far as I know, the real Satoshi NEVER showed signs of being an asshole.

This.

CSW's temperament doesn't match Satoshi's in the slightest.

Interesting... I wonder what the settlement is going to be comprised of. No doubt Craig's handlers will engineer it so that he can somehow "save face" in the minds of those who have already drunk the Kool Aid. He will somehow continue the ruse that he is Satoshi into infinity, even if it will only be entertained by ever-reducing slivers of the most mentally feeble of supporters.

I admire the prose.

Thanks BTW. I guess I could have just wrote "only tards believe Faketoshi now" and saved a lot of words.

I wanted to use the word "reducting," but Google spellcheck doesn't like it, and maybe its better for talking about making soup or something.

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October 15, 2019, 01:04:08 PM
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I’m the asshole who keeps inventing things that other people need. I’m not the good media personality. You think I’m gonna complain because I only get to keep $6 billion? And I’m the only surviving member of Satoshi? The judge ruled it was a partnership. I’m the asshole Satoshi. And Dave was the nice one. So have a nice day.

There are a handful of people I've come across who I just sit back and think 'what made you? How did you end up like this? How can you possibly think you're awesome?'

I know every man is a hero to himself, but there comes a time where it crosses over into something incomprehensibly peculiar and dark.

Craigy is definitely a prime example. Boasting about non existent funds doesn't really make anyone look cool.

Anyway, the conference is now rolling.


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I’m the asshole who keeps inventing things that other people need. I’m not the good media personality. You think I’m gonna complain because I only get to keep $6 billion? And I’m the only surviving member of Satoshi? The judge ruled it was a partnership. I’m the asshole Satoshi. And Dave was the nice one. So have a nice day.

There are a handful of people I've come across who I just sit back and think 'what made you? How did you end up like this? How can you possibly think you're awesome?'

I know every man is a hero to himself, but there comes a time where it crosses over into something incomprehensibly peculiar and dark.

Craigy is definitely a prime example. Boasting about non existent funds doesn't really make anyone look cool.

Anyway, the conference is now rolling.



Nice socks. Hey Craig, where can I buy such ones..?  Grin
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Nice socks. Hey Craig, where can I buy such ones..?  Grin

They seem to have become his trademark. Perhaps he'll turn them into a cottage industry. I'd vastly prefer to be known for my snazzy red socks than my pathological delusions.

And Tone Vays gave him his very own shirt too - https://twitter.com/PrivateHenkie/status/1184070550056034304

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Nice socks. Hey Craig, where can I buy such ones..?  Grin

They seem to have become his trademark. Perhaps he'll turn them into a cottage industry. I'd vastly prefer to be known for my snazzy red socks than my pathological delusions.

And Tone Vays gave him his very own shirt too - https://twitter.com/PrivateHenkie/status/1184070550056034304

Holy shit! Tone "Count to nine" Vays did what he promise to do. Lol, what a sick burn "except Craig Wright shirt." I never like that pompous Vays guy but this is a thumbs up for him. What a stare down. The things people do for attention.


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I’m the asshole who keeps inventing things that other people need. I’m not the good media personality. You think I’m gonna complain because I only get to keep $6 billion? And I’m the only surviving member of Satoshi? The judge ruled it was a partnership. I’m the asshole Satoshi. And Dave was the nice one. So have a nice day.

There are a handful of people I've come across who I just sit back and think 'what made you? How did you end up like this? How can you possibly think you're awesome?'

I know every man is a hero to himself, but there comes a time where it crosses over into something incomprehensibly peculiar and dark.

Craigy is definitely a prime example. Boasting about non existent funds doesn't really make anyone look cool.

Anyway, the conference is now rolling.



He was also giving away these t-shirts, not just wearing one  Grin

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Good for him, this is a respectful amount of effort in shaming Faketoshi and his bullsh*t.

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"There's a little Tuttle in all of us, in fact you might say that all of us together make up Tuttle excepting Tone Vays (QUOTE ref.). Personally, I relate more to Lieutenant Kijé who 'lived' a rich life of intrigue, romance, imprisonment (forthcoming), and glory [hole, obscured by donned fuchsia reginald matching my socks and tie]."

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To celebrate the lack of Craig's Satoshiness I took the liberty of publishing Bitmex Research against Craig Wright from a few days ago.


Bitmex Research vs Craig Wright: 13 Part Tweet Storm

Courtesy of @BitMEXResearch, October 13th 2019. Further reading: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member.
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October 15, 2019, 05:30:59 PM
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I could have just wrote "only tards believe Faketoshi now" and saved a lot of words.

You seem to be giving too much credit to early believers of faketoshi. 

He was never really believable, so there has been a decent amount of tard or wanton gullibility regarding anyone who believed that goofball in any kind of way that got to greater than not status. 

Of course, in the beginning the public did not have as many examples of how much of a fucktwat he was, but his story was never really convincing in any kind of meaningful way that should have brought any quasi-reasonable person over a 50% belief probability threshold.

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How much alt coin diversification is necessary? if you are investing in Bitcoin, then perhaps 0%?
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October 15, 2019, 05:37:28 PM
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Very unfortunate to see so many people giving Craig the attention he so much craves.

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October 15, 2019, 06:12:01 PM
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I could have just wrote "only tards believe Faketoshi now" and saved a lot of words.

You seem to be giving too much credit to early believers of faketoshi.  

He was never really believable, so there has been a decent amount of tard or wanton gullibility regarding anyone who believed that goofball in any kind of way that got to greater than not status.  

Of course, in the beginning the public did not have as many examples of how much of a fucktwat he was, but his story was never really convincing in any kind of meaningful way that should have brought any quasi-reasonable person over a 50% belief probability threshold.

Hmm... I can't deny that you have a point there.

Very unfortunate to see so many people giving Craig the attention he so much craves.

Its the conference's fault for giving him a platform. But considering that he's filling in for Roger Ver, I don't know why anybody would actually be there at all.

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October 15, 2019, 07:44:34 PM
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The conference organizers are biased af. Craig was the only one with a wired mic. The rest of the panel had to share a hand held mic.

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October 15, 2019, 07:49:07 PM
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The conference organizers are biased af. Craig was the only one with a wired mic. The rest of the panel had to share a hand held mic.

One has to be biased af (or bribed) if one thinks inviting CSW and giving him a platform to lie is worth their time.

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