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January 07, 2022, 07:13:21 AM
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When it comes to Dortmund and Sevilla, I also think that they are big candidates for winning the EL championship. But I see Sevilla being one step ahead of Dortmund in this competition for the championship. Because Sevilla are a much more experienced team in this tournament. Becoming the champions four times in last ten years should be enough to tell something about it.  Grin  But we really can't know what team can make it when it comes to the EL. Maybe we will have a very unexpected champion team.

If we're talking about Sevilla, that's understandable, but to mention Dortmund, given that there's also Napoli and Barcelona (albeit not in the best shape), seems strange to me. Besides, there are other teams in the Europa League, anything can happen and one of those teams will bounce back from a weaker one... So I agree with what you said about the surprise champion.

@baeva I feel we’re doing injustice to West Ham when we leave them out of the teams that can win this league, because they have performed exceptionally well in this league. Lastly I don’t see Barcelona winning this league, unless they get some quality player’s in the current transfer window, but even then their chances of winning this league will be very slim.
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January 07, 2022, 07:56:16 AM
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@baeva I feel we’re doing injustice to West Ham when we leave them out of the teams that can win this league, because they have performed exceptionally well in this league. Lastly I don’t see Barcelona winning this league, unless they get some quality player’s in the current transfer window, but even then their chances of winning this league will be very slim.

I also find it difficult for Barcelona to win the Europa League, it's not that they don't have the conditions to do so - but they had to improve the team.

But I think the focus now is on recovering places in the La Liga league table.

The Europa League became a test, which of course will try to go far, but just to see what happens. If it goes well, if it doesn't, there's no problem.

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January 07, 2022, 08:05:45 AM
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@baeva I feel we’re doing injustice to West Ham when we leave them out of the teams that can win this league, because they have performed exceptionally well in this league. Lastly I don’t see Barcelona winning this league, unless they get some quality player’s in the current transfer window, but even then their chances of winning this league will be very slim.

I also find it difficult for Barcelona to win the Europa League, it's not that they don't have the conditions to do so - but they had to improve the team.

But I think the focus now is on recovering places in the La Liga league table.

The Europa League became a test, which of course will try to go far, but just to see what happens. If it goes well, if it doesn't, there's no problem.
Indeed, Barcelona does not seem to have the ability to be able to win this title with such a team condition, but that does not mean Barcelona have lost their chance at this UEL event. Anyway, I personally will still consider Barcelona here, because if Barcelona can win from Napoli and advance to the next phase then at least it will be a way that will be possible for Barcelona to advance to the final match, I think it's still possible.

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January 07, 2022, 08:30:13 AM
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Barcelona are really unlucky that they have got a draw against Napoli right away. This should have been a matchup that we see in the next stages of the tournament. Because Barcelona are still not in a good shape, Napoli are seen as one step ahead. This is like it at least for now and it will be depending on Barcelona's effort. If they make things much better for themselves until this matchup starts, then we could watch a more competitive draw.
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January 07, 2022, 02:36:42 PM
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Barcelona are really unlucky that they have got a draw against Napoli right away. This should have been a matchup that we see in the next stages of the tournament. Because Barcelona are still not in a good shape, Napoli are seen as one step ahead. This is like it at least for now and it will be depending on Barcelona's effort. If they make things much better for themselves until this matchup starts, then we could watch a more competitive draw.
If i'm not mistaken their previous met happened on champion league season 2020 when Barcelona won with aggregate 4-2 and on that time Barcelona very strong with messi at the team but this year very different besides no messi Barcelona performance still unstable and not in the good shape under Xavi and on my prediction probably Napoli can able to beat Barcelona

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January 07, 2022, 10:18:57 PM
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When it comes to Dortmund and Sevilla, I also think that they are big candidates for winning the EL championship. But I see Sevilla being one step ahead of Dortmund in this competition for the championship. Because Sevilla are a much more experienced team in this tournament. Becoming the champions four times in last ten years should be enough to tell something about it.  Grin  But we really can't know what team can make it when it comes to the EL. Maybe we will have a very unexpected champion team.

If we're talking about Sevilla, that's understandable, but to mention Dortmund, given that there's also Napoli and Barcelona (albeit not in the best shape), seems strange to me. Besides, there are other teams in the Europa League, anything can happen and one of those teams will bounce back from a weaker one... So I agree with what you said about the surprise champion.

@baeva I feel we’re doing injustice to West Ham when we leave them out of the teams that can win this league, because they have performed exceptionally well in this league. Lastly I don’t see Barcelona winning this league, unless they get some quality player’s in the current transfer window, but even then their chances of winning this league will be very slim.

I don't know, if Barcelona start playing normally now (just in case the Xavi effect works), they might make it to 1/4-1/2, but of course I'm not sure about that... As for West Ham, I partly agree with you, but I think the other teams have a much better chance, although the Hammers have been playing very well this season

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January 08, 2022, 12:50:37 AM
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I don't know, if Barcelona start playing normally now (just in case the Xavi effect works), they might make it to 1/4-1/2, but of course I'm not sure about that... As for West Ham, I partly agree with you, but I think the other teams have a much better chance, although the Hammers have been playing very well this season

Honestly, I see teams with better chances of winning the trophy than West Ham or Barcelona.
I believe that a Leverkusen, Lyon, Dortmund, Leipzig or Porto, have more chances of reaching the final.

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January 08, 2022, 10:49:06 AM
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Bookmakers estimate the chances of Sevilla to win in the sum of 2 matches against Dynamo as 1.26, and Dynamo's chances as 3.5. It is obvious that Sevilla is the favorite and I can even say that the bet on it looks profitable - 26 percent guaranteed profit.
Sevilla's chances of winning the Europa League are also high - they only lower to Borussia, which is considered the favorite, however, judging by the odds, several clubs can win the tournament and there is no clear favorite among them.

Saying it's a guaranteed win is always risky!

It's true that Sevilla are in a much better position to win the game. But, we are talking about football, just one bad night from Sevilla, or one very inspired night from Dynamo, and the result changes completely.

I could be wrong, but the outcome of this match looks exactly like this for me. I hope no one listens to my advice and will bet based on their research )

There is no clear favourite team for the Europa League title indeed as there are many alternatives. Sevilla, Barcelona, Napoli and Dortmund seem to be the biggest ones among them. Sevilla may not be the clear favourite but they seem to be a little more advantageous than the others I think. I claim this taking their successes into account. They are one of the most successful teams in the Europa League history. But we will see what they will do this time.

Much will depend on the motivation of the teams. Borussia will have the maximum, since Bayern is unattainable, Barcelona, like Napoli, will give all its strength to the domestic championship, I don’t know Sevilla - they have theoretical chances to fight Real.
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January 08, 2022, 04:17:53 PM
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I could be wrong, but the outcome of this match looks exactly like this for me. I hope no one listens to my advice and will bet based on their research )

Yes, I bet I would also say that Sevilla wins the game.
This month of January, will allow you to better understand how the teams will be performing. Some are doing badly with Covid and things could change all of a sudden.
Hence I say that there are no guaranteed victories in football.

Either way, bets should always be placed on the basis of each person's analysis and not just the opinion of others.

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I don't know, if Barcelona start playing normally now (just in case the Xavi effect works), they might make it to 1/4-1/2, but of course I'm not sure about that... As for West Ham, I partly agree with you, but I think the other teams have a much better chance, although the Hammers have been playing very well this season

Honestly, I see teams with better chances of winning the trophy than West Ham or Barcelona.
I believe that a Leverkusen, Lyon, Dortmund, Leipzig or Porto, have more chances of reaching the final.

Apart from Leipzig from your list I don't see any other contenders, the others are too weak for the final and unlikely to make it, well among the whole list then you can also single out Borussia and that's it. Let's see who makes it to the final, if someone from your list makes it to the final it will be cool, surprises in the league are always nice

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Honestly, I see teams with better chances of winning the trophy than West Ham or Barcelona.
I believe that a Leverkusen, Lyon, Dortmund, Leipzig or Porto, have more chances of reaching the final.
Apart from Leipzig from your list I don't see any other contenders, the others are too weak for the final and unlikely to make it, well among the whole list then you can also single out Borussia and that's it. Let's see who makes it to the final, if someone from your list makes it to the final it will be cool, surprises in the league are always nice
Agree with you, the list of Lyon, Leipzig, and Porto, I doubt those teams will available to the final, even though all those teams from the Champions League because they as unstable team have going on to 2nd league. when I look at 2020, that possible the final is a team that in real as a participant the Europa League, and another one is from the ex-champion league (Villareal is champion I Group). Leverkusen and west ham is the team who has the advantage to next final, maybe vs Dortmund or the team from Serie A.

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Honestly, I see teams with better chances of winning the trophy than West Ham or Barcelona.
I believe that a Leverkusen, Lyon, Dortmund, Leipzig or Porto, have more chances of reaching the final.
Apart from Leipzig from your list I don't see any other contenders, the others are too weak for the final and unlikely to make it, well among the whole list then you can also single out Borussia and that's it. Let's see who makes it to the final, if someone from your list makes it to the final it will be cool, surprises in the league are always nice
Agree with you, the list of Lyon, Leipzig, and Porto, I doubt those teams will available to the final, even though all those teams from the Champions League because they as unstable team have going on to 2nd league. when I look at 2020, that possible the final is a team that in real as a participant the Europa League, and another one is from the ex-champion league (Villareal is champion I Group). Leverkusen and west ham is the team who has the advantage to next final, maybe vs Dortmund or the team from Serie A.
I think prefer to favorite Dortmund as team will lead to final with Barcelona but depend still have any potential team get the same chance who will take the final. I think Barcelona should talk more in this competition after failed in La Liga and now out from top four position, needed this way become the champion of EFA Europa League can participant on champion league next year, without become the champion in this competition Barcelona will failed participant on champion league and I think bad decision and result get by Xavi Hernandez as first manager failed make Barcelona get great achievement.

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January 09, 2022, 06:31:45 AM
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Barcelona are really unlucky that they have got a draw against Napoli right away. This should have been a matchup that we see in the next stages of the tournament. Because Barcelona are still not in a good shape, Napoli are seen as one step ahead. This is like it at least for now and it will be depending on Barcelona's effort. If they make things much better for themselves until this matchup starts, then we could watch a more competitive draw.

We have to say that Napoli has also been underperforming lately.  Maybe it will be a balanced fight between the two teams.  For Barcelona, ​​the Europa League can be considered a disappointment.  A team with a great track record with European trophies.  They were eliminated from UCL and transferred to the Europa league and will now fight to win the Europa league.  Napoli will not be easy to match.  Maybe Barcelona will say goodbye to the Europa League early.
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Barcelona are really unlucky that they have got a draw against Napoli right away. This should have been a matchup that we see in the next stages of the tournament. Because Barcelona are still not in a good shape, Napoli are seen as one step ahead. This is like it at least for now and it will be depending on Barcelona's effort. If they make things much better for themselves until this matchup starts, then we could watch a more competitive draw.

Barcelona is still in a big crisis of results, but also the finances and organization of the club.
The club dropped out of the competition from the Champions League, because of that they lost a lot of money and EL can't return that money.
EL is a much less attractive and financially viable competition and the question is how much Barcelona is interested in this competition.
Personally, I think Barcelona will now focus on the Spanish championship because for them it is now a matter of life and death to participation again in the Champions League next season.
I believe that EL will be less important to them and that they will probably rest the best players for important championship matches.


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January 09, 2022, 09:09:32 AM
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Barcelona are really unlucky that they have got a draw against Napoli right away. This should have been a matchup that we see in the next stages of the tournament. Because Barcelona are still not in a good shape, Napoli are seen as one step ahead. This is like it at least for now and it will be depending on Barcelona's effort. If they make things much better for themselves until this matchup starts, then we could watch a more competitive draw.
Barcelona is still in a big crisis of results, but also the finances and organization of the club.
The club dropped out of the competition from the Champions League, because of that they lost a lot of money and EL can't return that money.
EL is a much less attractive and financially viable competition and the question is how much Barcelona is interested in this competition.
Personally, I think Barcelona will now focus on the Spanish championship because for them it is now a matter of life and death to participation again in the Champions League next season.
I believe that EL will be less important to them and that they will probably rest the best players for important championship matches.

Barcelona are now 6th in the league and 4th placed Sociedad has only one point more than them,
So, I think that Xavi will be able to place Barcelona in the top 4. And the first match for them is against Napoli in EL which is gonna be a harsh one for them as Napoli are playing quite well this season. But I still think that they will prioritize the league more than EL as they will surely want to play in the next year's CL.

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I also find it difficult for Barcelona to win the Europa League, it's not that they don't have the conditions to do so - but they had to improve the team.

I think Barca has no chance to win the EL this season because the competition is too strong and Barca is just too weak. They were very lucky not to be eliminated from the Spanish Cup against a third division team recently.
I see many clubs much better at the moment, first and foremost: Napoli, Dortmund, Porto, FC Sevilla and Atalanta. In my opinion, one of the five clubs will win the Cup.
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I also find it difficult for Barcelona to win the Europa League, it's not that they don't have the conditions to do so - but they had to improve the team.

I think Barca has no chance to win the EL this season because the competition is too strong and Barca is just too weak. They were very lucky not to be eliminated from the Spanish Cup against a third division team recently.
I see many clubs much better at the moment, first and foremost: Napoli, Dortmund, Porto, FC Sevilla and Atalanta. In my opinion, one of the five clubs will win the Cup.
Barca still weakness club trough can't play new player transfer with salary regulation but I think different with UEFA Europa League because they can playing Ferran Torres, I think Barcelona problem right now not only on forward position but how to fix midfielder and defender area because so far Barcelona always difficulty how to make clean sheet on every match, just success on the first match in La Liga trough 2022 faced with Mallorca but last night they failed made clean sheet after drawing with Granada 1-1, now they faced problem and looks serious to get new forward but forget with defender and midfielder position.

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January 09, 2022, 11:20:15 AM
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Honestly, I see teams with better chances of winning the trophy than West Ham or Barcelona.
I believe that a Leverkusen, Lyon, Dortmund, Leipzig or Porto, have more chances of reaching the final.
Apart from Leipzig from your list I don't see any other contenders, the others are too weak for the final and unlikely to make it, well among the whole list then you can also single out Borussia and that's it. Let's see who makes it to the final, if someone from your list makes it to the final it will be cool, surprises in the league are always nice
Agree with you, the list of Lyon, Leipzig, and Porto, I doubt those teams will available to the final, even though all those teams from the Champions League because they as unstable team have going on to 2nd league. when I look at 2020, that possible the final is a team that in real as a participant the Europa League, and another one is from the ex-champion league (Villareal is champion I Group). Leverkusen and west ham is the team who has the advantage to next final, maybe vs Dortmund or the team from Serie A.

I think West Ham United is one of the potential finalists. They are very successful in the Premier League. If they show the same success in the European league, it is not difficult to become a finalist. On the other hand, they are one of the candidates for the final in Borussia Dortmund. The winner of the Napoli-Barcelona qualifier will also be strong enough to reach the final. The Europa league will be very exciting this year.

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January 09, 2022, 07:23:19 PM
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Honestly, I see teams with better chances of winning the trophy than West Ham or Barcelona.
I believe that a Leverkusen, Lyon, Dortmund, Leipzig or Porto, have more chances of reaching the final.
Apart from Leipzig from your list I don't see any other contenders, the others are too weak for the final and unlikely to make it, well among the whole list then you can also single out Borussia and that's it. Let's see who makes it to the final, if someone from your list makes it to the final it will be cool, surprises in the league are always nice
Agree with you, the list of Lyon, Leipzig, and Porto, I doubt those teams will available to the final, even though all those teams from the Champions League because they as unstable team have going on to 2nd league. when I look at 2020, that possible the final is a team that in real as a participant the Europa League, and another one is from the ex-champion league (Villareal is champion I Group). Leverkusen and west ham is the team who has the advantage to next final, maybe vs Dortmund or the team from Serie A.

I think West Ham United is one of the potential finalists. They are very successful in the Premier League. If they show the same success in the European league, it is not difficult to become a finalist. On the other hand, they are one of the candidates for the final in Borussia Dortmund. The winner of the Napoli-Barcelona qualifier will also be strong enough to reach the final. The Europa league will be very exciting this year.

That's quite a vague statement! Wink Saying it is not difficult sounds a bit naive. All those teams qualified in the end and showed they can compete with some of the stronger teams as well. I like to take Sheriff as an example and what they did in the Champions League. They beat Donezk and they beat Madrid in an away game. That goes to show that in just one head to head match up a lot is possible.

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January 09, 2022, 07:46:59 PM
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Barcelona is still in a big crisis of results, but also the finances and organization of the club.
The club dropped out of the competition from the Champions League, because of that they lost a lot of money and EL can't return that money.
EL is a much less attractive and financially viable competition and the question is how much Barcelona is interested in this competition.
Personally, I think Barcelona will now focus on the Spanish championship because for them it is now a matter of life and death to participation again in the Champions League next season.
I believe that EL will be less important to them and that they will probably rest the best players for important championship matches.

Yes, this is the most reliable scenario, since in the Europa League one unsuccessful match (for example, a final or an away game where you can concede a lot of goals) can ruin all plans. Fighting in La Liga is more reliable in terms of strategies and predictions. But in fact, a very important question is this: what are the global plans for Barcelona? If they do not make major changes with the composition of the team, then even after getting into the Champions League, they will quickly fly out of it.

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