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October 22, 2021, 09:12:13 PM
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I think you confused the Sheriff team with the Young Boys - what you are talking about happened with the Young Boys, and the Sheriff is in a different group. And it seems to me that you are confusing single random results with patterns that can be traced at a distance of more than one or two matches.
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Thanks for the correction are actually talking about the Sheriff team with the Real Madrid which took almost every football fan by surprise. I guess I had much thought about the Man United ever since their spectacular winning against Atlanta on Wednesday.

The Europa next game will take place next month between

Galatasaray vs Lokomotiv Moscow
Marseille vs Lazio
Leverkusen vs Real Betis
Leicester City vs Spartak Moscow
Sparta Prague vs Lyon
Do you think Sparta will lose against Lyon again just like they lose in the first leg?

Lyon is undoubtedly stronger than Sparta and it will be a home game, but I would not bet on this match at Lyon, as before this match Lyon has two very difficult meetings against direct competitors and after this match the same difficult match in the national championship. Taking into account the fact that Lyon has already solved the problem of reaching the next round, they can release a reserve squad.

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October 22, 2021, 09:34:26 PM
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One thing I love about europa league is that there's always goal galore, if your analysis is right you can win almost often with over 2.5 goals, Napoli finally gets their first win, a well deserved victory without conceding a goal, 3 nil, a shock result came out from Glimt vs Roma, can't believe that Roma will conceded 6 goals from Glimt, I'm just wondering what excuse Mourinho will have to say to the press, despite playing without no red card
Mourinho fielded a weak team which culminated to being thrashed 6-1 by Bodo/Glimt, I think he underated the Norwagian side thinking that they will not pose a serious threat or challenge to Roma thus by changing the main team giving other hard working players a chance to play unfortunately it backfires, though he admitted that he was responsible for the loss, meanwhile David Moyes side continue to lead their group as they eye a place in the knock out stage by defeating Ghenk 3-0, Moyes had turned the hammers to a very formidable club whose performance in the EPL and Europa league has been very encouraging.

Jose Mourinho's team was poor no doubt just as said ,he has got reason for that, resting the first squad for the weekend if I'm not wrong.
Bodo Glimt made use of their Chance's very well trashing the defensive tactician.

West Ham are doing brilliantly well, bossing every team around in the first part of their group stage matches also made clean sheets from all of the matches in the group... No doubt, David Moyes is actually building or has built a strong team already becoming too deadly to player.

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October 22, 2021, 09:56:48 PM
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Galatasaray with another win. To think that they played against teams that everyone assumed they would lose against in each of those games, and ended up scoring only ONE goal and still got 7 points shows how defense is very important in today's game. One goal was Lazio goalkeeper scoring to his own goal, and one goal was last night, the only goal that they scored so far, and in 3 games they have 7 points. That's really good for them, it is another underdog situation that they are pulling off.

By the looks of it, there are 3 other games and if they started to give results that people expect then they could still get eliminated, but if they get some more points, there is a good chance they could end up with promoting against three teams that looked better than them.
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October 23, 2021, 10:52:16 AM
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A really hurtful defeat for Dinamo yesterday. West Ham had an easy win against Genk, which would have made a good result against Rapid even more important.

The whole performance was below par, I expected Dinamo to be the dominant team which they were not throughout most of the game.

The most important game now is probably Rapid at home, where we will need a much better performance.

I agree, I haven't seen a worse performance of Dinamo in European competitions for a long time.
It's now completely clear that this Dinamo team is probably the worst in the last 10 or more years, with an inexperienced coach and the boss of a club hiding from the police in another country.
Many quality players were sold but they didn't bring real replacements for those players who left.
In this group there will obviously be a big fight for second and third place and a place in further competition.
If Dinamo fails to beat Rapid at home they will be in big trouble.

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October 23, 2021, 08:32:31 PM
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A really hurtful defeat for Dinamo yesterday. West Ham had an easy win against Genk, which would have made a good result against Rapid even more important.

The whole performance was below par, I expected Dinamo to be the dominant team which they were not throughout most of the game.

The most important game now is probably Rapid at home, where we will need a much better performance.

I agree, I haven't seen a worse performance of Dinamo in European competitions for a long time.
It's now completely clear that this Dinamo team is probably the worst in the last 10 or more years, with an inexperienced coach and the boss of a club hiding from the police in another country.
Many quality players were sold but they didn't bring real replacements for those players who left.
In this group there will obviously be a big fight for second and third place and a place in further competition.
If Dinamo fails to beat Rapid at home they will be in big trouble.
It even hurts a little for the fact that the teams break through in the league of Europe, but they can not show themselves worthy - then why even play or take teams from such countries in the Champions League and the Europa League? For me, for example, it is incomprehensible. I saw that the team practically performs in the cups every year, but leaves at the group stage...

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October 24, 2021, 11:59:36 AM
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A really hurtful defeat for Dinamo yesterday. West Ham had an easy win against Genk, which would have made a good result against Rapid even more important.

The whole performance was below par, I expected Dinamo to be the dominant team which they were not throughout most of the game.

The most important game now is probably Rapid at home, where we will need a much better performance.

I agree, I haven't seen a worse performance of Dinamo in European competitions for a long time.
It's now completely clear that this Dinamo team is probably the worst in the last 10 or more years, with an inexperienced coach and the boss of a club hiding from the police in another country.
Many quality players were sold but they didn't bring real replacements for those players who left.
In this group there will obviously be a big fight for second and third place and a place in further competition.
If Dinamo fails to beat Rapid at home they will be in big trouble.
It even hurts a little for the fact that the teams break through in the league of Europe, but they can not show themselves worthy - then why even play or take teams from such countries in the Champions League and the Europa League? For me, for example, it is incomprehensible. I saw that the team practically performs in the cups every year, but leaves at the group stage...

Ok, it seems to me that you haven't really followed Dinamo's performances in the last few seasons in European competitions.
In the last few years, Dinamo has become a very successful club in European competitions, and passed the European League groups, and later lost matches to very strong European teams such as Benfica or Villarreal.
Last season Dinamo made probably the biggest surprise of all European competitions when they beat Tottenham and knocked this club out of the competition, and in the end they reached the quarterfinals of the European League.
This season, Dinamo is achieving slightly weaker results, which is normal and expected for such a small club with weaker finances.

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Galatasaray were one of the impressive teams of the week. They defeated Lokomotiv Moscow by 1-0. But the most attracting thing about them was their really great performance. I saw the old spirit of Galatasaray in them in the match. People can remember easily how much good they were playing when they had stars like Drogba and Sneijder. In this game, their goal was also marvelous. They definitely deserved to win. And they deserve to be the leader of their group also for now.

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October 24, 2021, 03:56:43 PM
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Galatasaray were one of the impressive teams of the week. They defeated Lokomotiv Moscow by 1-0. But the most attracting thing about them was their really great performance. I saw the old spirit of Galatasaray in them in the match. People can remember easily how much good they were playing when they had stars like Drogba and Sneijder. In this game, their goal was also marvelous. They definitely deserved to win. And they deserve to be the leader of their group also for now.

Galatasaray did win the match but I think Moscow was the better team in that match because their stats suggest that they played better football and probably deserved at least a point. The only good start where Galatasaray was is seemed to be really good was the shorts on target. Galatasaray had five shots on target where their opponent had zero. On the other hand, Moscow had one more shot taken than Galatasaray. Moscow to 13 shots and none of them were on target on the other hand their opponent took 12 shots and 5 of them were on target then one of them was converted to a goal. So I have to say Galatasaray was much more accurate than their opponent. In the end, that's what mattered.

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October 24, 2021, 07:40:45 PM
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Ok, it seems to me that you haven't really followed Dinamo's performances in the last few seasons in European competitions.
In the last few years, Dinamo has become a very successful club in European competitions, and passed the European League groups, and later lost matches to very strong European teams such as Benfica or Villarreal.
Last season Dinamo made probably the biggest surprise of all European competitions when they beat Tottenham and knocked this club out of the competition, and in the end they reached the quarterfinals of the European League.
This season, Dinamo is achieving slightly weaker results, which is normal and expected for such a small club with weaker finances.


That's not what I meant, I see that Dinamo is not performing very well this year, and then I just talked about the situation in general. By teams that always drop out of the group stages, I rather meant the Russian teams (CSKA, Spartak), because I thought of them in the first place Smiley. And in that regard I felt a bit bad for Dinamo, because previously they performed decently, but now, this season, they're a bit like the Russian teams. For some reason when I watched their last match I saw in their game some unwillingness to finish the game, at least it seemed so to me

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October 25, 2021, 11:54:46 AM
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Dinamo is still in a good enough situation, with both games against direct opposition at home. I feel they are a better team than both Genk and Rapid and it might help them as well that their game against West Ham is the last one in the group - WH will be qualified by then and will probably rest some players against Dinamo.

Next round is Genk - West Ham and Dinamo - Rapid, things will be a lot cleaner in 10 days or so. But Dinamo to go through looks good to me.


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October 25, 2021, 03:07:59 PM
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Dinamo is still in a good enough situation, with both games against direct opposition at home. I feel they are a better team than both Genk and Rapid and it might help them as well that their game against West Ham is the last one in the group - WH will be qualified by then and will probably rest some players against Dinamo.

Next round is Genk - West Ham and Dinamo - Rapid, things will be a lot cleaner in 10 days or so. But Dinamo to go through looks good to me.


 Westham will surely be the first one to qualify in the next round. And all the three teams except them have one win each. Although Dinamo is playing on average, I won't say that they are playing the best football at the moment, but I'm very optimistic that they might win the next few fixtures and qualify alongside Westham.

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October 25, 2021, 03:46:06 PM
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Dinamo is still in a good enough situation, with both games against direct opposition at home. I feel they are a better team than both Genk and Rapid and it might help them as well that their game against West Ham is the last one in the group - WH will be qualified by then and will probably rest some players against Dinamo.

Next round is Genk - West Ham and Dinamo - Rapid, things will be a lot cleaner in 10 days or so. But Dinamo to go through looks good to me.


Currently west ham only needs one more draw or win to lock their position as group winners and qualify for the next phase, while Dinamo, rapid and genk in my opinion still have the same big chance to qualify for the next round if they are able to get points full in each of their remaining matches, indeed dinamo looks better than rapid and genk, but it is possible that both teams (rapid and genk) are able to make a surprise in some of their matches later.

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October 25, 2021, 04:55:39 PM
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Dinamo is still in a good enough situation, with both games against direct opposition at home. I feel they are a better team than both Genk and Rapid and it might help them as well that their game against West Ham is the last one in the group - WH will be qualified by then and will probably rest some players against Dinamo.

Next round is Genk - West Ham and Dinamo - Rapid, things will be a lot cleaner in 10 days or so. But Dinamo to go through looks good to me.


Currently west ham only needs one more draw or win to lock their position as group winners and qualify for the next phase, while Dinamo, rapid and genk in my opinion still have the same big chance to qualify for the next round if they are able to get points full in each of their remaining matches, indeed dinamo looks better than rapid and genk, but it is possible that both teams (rapid and genk) are able to make a surprise in some of their matches later.


All the other teams in Group H can do whatever they like but I don't think they are posing any threat right now to west ham. West ham is on 9 points, 6 points clear of the other teams who are all in 3 points each. Genk has the most problems among these teams as they already have "-5" goal differences. This is going to hurt them a lot. Actually, none of these 3 teams have positive goal differences. The best is Dynamo with 0 goal difference lol Cheesy. While West ham has a goal difference of "+7".

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October 25, 2021, 11:03:17 PM
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All the other teams in Group H can do whatever they like but I don't think they are posing any threat right now to west ham. West ham is on 9 points, 6 points clear of the other teams who are all in 3 points each. Genk has the most problems among these teams as they already have "-5" goal differences. This is going to hurt them a lot. Actually, none of these 3 teams have positive goal differences. The best is Dynamo with 0 goal difference lol Cheesy. While West ham has a goal difference of "+7".

No more! If in the first round neither team managed to score a single goal against West Ham, it will be very difficult in the second round for them to win. They may even be able to tie the game, but winning won't be easy. It would take West Ham, simply taking the field completely out of whack and unbalanced. But that's not something like that in English teams, they had to have a really bad day. It's not impossible, but difficult without a doubt.

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October 26, 2021, 02:04:51 PM
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All the other teams in Group H can do whatever they like but I don't think they are posing any threat right now to west ham. West ham is on 9 points, 6 points clear of the other teams who are all in 3 points each. Genk has the most problems among these teams as they already have "-5" goal differences. This is going to hurt them a lot. Actually, none of these 3 teams have positive goal differences. The best is Dynamo with 0 goal difference lol Cheesy. While West ham has a goal difference of "+7".

No more! If in the first round neither team managed to score a single goal against West Ham, it will be very difficult in the second round for them to win. They may even be able to tie the game, but winning won't be easy. It would take West Ham, simply taking the field completely out of whack and unbalanced. But that's not something like that in English teams, they had to have a really bad day. It's not impossible, but difficult without a doubt.

That is true. Westham seems like they got a comparatively easier group for them. As no one seems to like being able to score against them. They have a huge goal difference which will also boost their confidence. If I'm not wrong, even if they draw the next few matches, they still go through to the next round right?

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October 26, 2021, 02:46:23 PM
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All the other teams in Group H can do whatever they like but I don't think they are posing any threat right now to west ham. West ham is on 9 points, 6 points clear of the other teams who are all in 3 points each. Genk has the most problems among these teams as they already have "-5" goal differences. This is going to hurt them a lot. Actually, none of these 3 teams have positive goal differences. The best is Dynamo with 0 goal difference lol Cheesy. While West ham has a goal difference of "+7".

No more! If in the first round neither team managed to score a single goal against West Ham, it will be very difficult in the second round for them to win. They may even be able to tie the game, but winning won't be easy. It would take West Ham, simply taking the field completely out of whack and unbalanced. But that's not something like that in English teams, they had to have a really bad day. It's not impossible, but difficult without a doubt.

That is true. Westham seems like they got a comparatively easier group for them. As no one seems to like being able to score against them. They have a huge goal difference which will also boost their confidence. If I'm not wrong, even if they draw the next few matches, they still go through to the next round right?
If I look at the other three teams I think, West Ham just need one more win so that is enough for him to lock up his position as group winners. This means, even though West Ham won 1 and lost 2, I believe West Ham will still be safe at the top. But yes, I'm not sure of the three teams that will be able to beat West Ham at this time, at least even if West Ham rotates players at least West Ham will still get a win and draw, I'm sure West Ham will not lose in the remaining three matches later. But yes, if you ask about the draw in the remaining three matches, I think that is also enough for West Ham, but I still believe West Ham will still be able to win the game whether it's in one or two matches later.

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October 26, 2021, 05:54:36 PM
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^ West ham has won against the spurs. And west ham actually played good football in my opinion. They had 37% possession and also had less accurate passes. But still, they have the score where it matters. Antonio scored at 72 minutes to give them the lead. It was the only goal of the match. 11 foul decisions have gone against them. Had to see two yellow cards for that too. West ham is surely not going to move from that number 1 spot in Group H.

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October 26, 2021, 05:59:52 PM
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^ West ham has won against the spurs. And west ham actually played good football in my opinion. They had 37% possession and also had less accurate passes. But still, they have the score where it matters. Antonio scored at 72 minutes to give them the lead. It was the only goal of the match. 11 foul decisions have gone against them. Had to see two yellow cards for that too. West ham is surely not going to move from that number 1 spot in Group H.
Brah you are confusing me, you are talking about a game played between West Ham and Spurs in EPL and not EL. About remaining n1 in Group H, West Ham is playing vs teams that lost 2 of their 3 games making the job easier to pass this group first.

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October 26, 2021, 06:50:12 PM
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^ West ham has won against the spurs. And west ham actually played good football in my opinion. They had 37% possession and also had less accurate passes. But still, they have the score where it matters. Antonio scored at 72 minutes to give them the lead. It was the only goal of the match. 11 foul decisions have gone against them. Had to see two yellow cards for that too. West ham is surely not going to move from that number 1 spot in Group H.
Brah you are confusing me, you are talking about a game played between West Ham and Spurs in EPL and not EL. About remaining n1 in Group H, West Ham is playing vs teams that lost 2 of their 3 games making the job easier to pass this group first.

I'm sorry I failed to understand you about this matter. I wanted to mean that West Ham is playing well enough in the Premier League. And they have won against a strong team like Tottenam. This means they are now in a fairly stable position. Group H teams are weaker than Tottenham. And since they are already one ahead of the other teams in the group, at the same time they are in good form. So I don't think the West Ham team could move away from Group H's first place. I think now I have cleared the matter.

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October 26, 2021, 07:46:24 PM
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^ West ham has won against the spurs. And west ham actually played good football in my opinion. They had 37% possession and also had less accurate passes. But still, they have the score where it matters. Antonio scored at 72 minutes to give them the lead. It was the only goal of the match. 11 foul decisions have gone against them. Had to see two yellow cards for that too. West ham is surely not going to move from that number 1 spot in Group H.
Brah you are confusing me, you are talking about a game played between West Ham and Spurs in EPL and not EL. About remaining n1 in Group H, West Ham is playing vs teams that lost 2 of their 3 games making the job easier to pass this group first.

I'm sorry I failed to understand you about this matter. I wanted to mean that West Ham is playing well enough in the Premier League. And they have won against a strong team like Tottenam. This means they are now in a fairly stable position. Group H teams are weaker than Tottenham. And since they are already one ahead of the other teams in the group, at the same time they are in good form. So I don't think the West Ham team could move away from Group H's first place. I think now I have cleared the matter.
Currently West Ham has led the group H standings with 9 points from 3 matches without defeat, and this shows that West Ham quality compared to other teams is very much different, in my opinion West Ham now only needs 1 more win to secure a position them and it looks like the game against Genk will be an easy game for West Ham.

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