⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[Daniel91]

Barcelona has huge problems due to large financial debts, poor organization of the club, disturbed relations between players and management, incompetent management etc.
Messi's departure was logical and expected due to all these problems.
Barcelona needs a good striker? Maybe Suarez?  
In fact, Barcelona now urgently needs a lot of money to save itself from financial ruin and going into football mediocrity.
They can forget about some great football successes and trophies in the next few years.
It's obvious that Barcelona is not the favorite in the Champions League this year and they are still not sure that they will pass the group stage of this competition.

^ Barcelona is facing some real problems right now because they are in a really bad cycle. If they sell some players in the upcoming transfer window, they might not be able to stay in the top 4, so they won't be able to play champions league, so they will get less money. They can't buy anyone too. They can't even sack their manager because if they sack him, as per rules they have to pay the whole contract length. They can't afford that right now. So I think they just need to survive for 2-3 seasons then get some financial stability. Then Maybe they can buy some players.

Personally, I don’t think Barcelona have time to wait a few years.
Changes in football happen very quickly and if you can’t keep up with those changes, then you fall away as a relevant factor.
Top players want to play in clubs that guarantee them trophies and victories, and they can also pay well.
Personally, if I were a top player and I got an offer from Barcelona, a club that can no longer guarantee trophies and money, and Newcastle that will soon be able to guarantee both trophies and money, I know which club I would choose.
It has already happened in football that some clubs that used to be greats and European champions, such as HSV or Nottingham Forest, later fail and become irrelevant.
Barcelona don't have much time to fix their catastrophic financial situation and avoid such a scenario.

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[Ebede]

What Barcelona needs at the point in time is a new manager, xavi Hernandez will get the job to be straight.
The system of the catalians has been tiki taka, off which I know the current Barcelona team lacks.
They have a good striker, Sergio Aguero is a good one to fill up the gap.
Younger lads like Dest and Fati can gel in when a new  manager comes through.

[W Jr.]

If we take an overview of the first 4 groups:

City and Paris SG can go to the next round together in Group A. 

We can say that Liverpool made it to the top round in Group B. The chances of the other three teams still remain mathematically. 

In group C, we can say that Ajax has left the group. The match to be played between Sporting-BvB will determine the other winner.
 
In Group D, the Sheriff's dream will come to an end. Real Madrid and Inter manage to get out of the group.

[KingsDen]

Barcelona has huge problems due to large financial debts, poor organization of the club, disturbed relations between players and management, incompetent management etc.
Messi's departure was logical and expected due to all these problems.
Barcelona needs a good striker? Maybe Suarez?  
In fact, Barcelona now urgently needs a lot of money to save itself from financial ruin and going into football mediocrity.
They can forget about some great football successes and trophies in the next few years.
It's obvious that Barcelona is not the favorite in the Champions League this year and they are still not sure that they will pass the group stage of this competition.

^ Barcelona is facing some real problems right now because they are in a really bad cycle. If they sell some players in the upcoming transfer window, they might not be able to stay in the top 4, so they won't be able to play champions league, so they will get less money. They can't buy anyone too. They can't even sack their manager because if they sack him, as per rules they have to pay the whole contract length. They can't afford that right now. So I think they just need to survive for 2-3 seasons then get some financial stability. Then Maybe they can buy some players.

Personally, I don’t think Barcelona have time to wait a few years.
Changes in football happen very quickly and if you can’t keep up with those changes, then you fall away as a relevant factor.
Top players want to play in clubs that guarantee them trophies and victories, and they can also pay well.
Personally, if I were a top player and I got an offer from Barcelona, a club that can no longer guarantee trophies and money, and Newcastle that will soon be able to guarantee both trophies and money, I know which club I would choose.
It has already happened in football that some clubs that used to be greats and European champions, such as HSV or Nottingham Forest, later fail and become irrelevant.
Barcelona don't have much time to fix their catastrophic financial situation and avoid such a scenario.

But, if you were to be a footballer that wants trophies and not money per say. And you are given an offer of Barcelona and Newcastle, will you choose Newcastle over Barcelona?
No matter the present financial conditions of Barcelona, they can never be compared to Newcastle, and Newcastle cannot be better than Barcelona even in 10yrs time.
If Koeman can be coordinated and be realistic, he still have many good players in his team.
He should just focus on League or Champions league and get one. He can do it with nice strategies and by resting players against the title of his choice.

[Iranus]

Personally, I don’t think Barcelona have time to wait a few years.
Changes in football happen very quickly and if you can’t keep up with those changes, then you fall away as a relevant factor.
Top players want to play in clubs that guarantee them trophies and victories, and they can also pay well.
Personally, if I were a top player and I got an offer from Barcelona, a club that can no longer guarantee trophies and money, and Newcastle that will soon be able to guarantee both trophies and money, I know which club I would choose.
It has already happened in football that some clubs that used to be greats and European champions, such as HSV or Nottingham Forest, later fail and become irrelevant.
Barcelona don't have much time to fix their catastrophic financial situation and avoid such a scenario.

But, if you were to be a footballer that wants trophies and not money per say. And you are given an offer of Barcelona and Newcastle, will you choose Newcastle over Barcelona?
No matter the present financial conditions of Barcelona, they can never be compared to Newcastle, and Newcastle cannot be better than Barcelona even in 10yrs time.
If Koeman can be coordinated and be realistic, he still have many good players in his team.
He should just focus on League or Champions league and get one. He can do it with nice strategies and by resting players against the title of his choice.

Agreed, Barcelona is a brand itself. If I am offered a contract from both Barca and Newcastle, I'd definitely choose Barca if I'm in the early stages of my career. Because I'll get the environment for my development and recognition as well. But If I'm offered a contract from Newcastle in the ending part of my career, I'd definitely take that. Yes, Barcelona is struggling with almost everything at the moment, but within a season or two, they will recover from this.

[Furious 7]

In Group D, the Sheriff's dream will come to an end. Real Madrid and Inter manage to get out of the group.

The Sheriff still has hope while Inter must not make any more mistakes with a draw this will threaten Inter Milan not to qualify so the competition in Group D with the Sheriff will continue until the next match between Inter vs Sheriff.
The Sheriff and Madrid have 6 points if they both win then that goes to the next round, so Inter Milan are still trying to win this is a big challenge and Simone Inzhage should be able to take their team through as well.

[poldanmig]

In Group D, the Sheriff's dream will come to an end. Real Madrid and Inter manage to get out of the group.

The Sheriff still has hope while Inter must not make any more mistakes with a draw this will threaten Inter Milan not to qualify so the competition in Group D with the Sheriff will continue until the next match between Inter vs Sheriff.
The Sheriff and Madrid have 6 points if they both win then that goes to the next round, so Inter Milan are still trying to win this is a big challenge and Simone Inzhage should be able to take their team through as well.

I think Intermilan will play his best game in that match, moreover the result of Intermilan match against the sheriff will decide the fate of Intermilan, looking at last week game when Intermilan beat the sheriff, I think Intermilan will have no trouble winning the second meeting even though the Sheriff is playing at home, I personally agree with @W jr that this season the sheriff journey will only reach the group phase.

[Davidvictorson]

In Group D, the Sheriff's dream will come to an end. Real Madrid and Inter manage to get out of the group.

The Sheriff still has hope while Inter must not make any more mistakes with a draw this will threaten Inter Milan not to qualify so the competition in Group D with the Sheriff will continue until the next match between Inter vs Sheriff.
The Sheriff and Madrid have 6 points if they both win then that goes to the next round, so Inter Milan are still trying to win this is a big challenge and Simone Inzhage should be able to take their team through as well.

I think Intermilan will play his best game in that match, moreover the result of Intermilan match against the sheriff will decide the fate of Intermilan, looking at last week game when Intermilan beat the sheriff, I think Intermilan will have no trouble winning the second meeting even though the Sheriff is playing at home, I personally agree with @W jr that this season the sheriff journey will only reach the group phase.

Actually, I enjoyed the game domination. Dzeko's goal on the fly that gave us immense joy after a series of wasted scoring. However, one of the issues i have with Inter their poor finishing. All their forwards  always shoot at random on goal.

[Silberman]

Barcelona has huge problems due to large financial debts, poor organization of the club, disturbed relations between players and management, incompetent management etc.
Messi's departure was logical and expected due to all these problems.
Barcelona needs a good striker? Maybe Suarez? 
In fact, Barcelona now urgently needs a lot of money to save itself from financial ruin and going into football mediocrity.
They can forget about some great football successes and trophies in the next few years.
It's obvious that Barcelona is not the favorite in the Champions League this year and they are still not sure that they will pass the group stage of this competition.

This is what bothers me with the situation Barcelona is going through, they had one of the best players and one of the best runs we have ever seen and yet they are in financial issues, where all that money went? How they could get in such financial issues on the first place? After all even if there are many true fans that will keep supporting the team there are many fans that will switch to other teams if Barcelona does not improve and do so soon, and this could make their money issues even bigger than what they are right now.

[nelson4lov]

In Group D, the Sheriff's dream will come to an end. Real Madrid and Inter manage to get out of the group.

The Sheriff still has hope while Inter must not make any more mistakes with a draw this will threaten Inter Milan not to qualify so the competition in Group D with the Sheriff will continue until the next match between Inter vs Sheriff.
The Sheriff and Madrid have 6 points if they both win then that goes to the next round, so Inter Milan are still trying to win this is a big challenge and Simone Inzhage should be able to take their team through as well.

Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

[AndySt]

Personally, I don’t think Barcelona have time to wait a few years. Changes in football happen very quickly and if you can’t keep up with those changes, then you fall away as a relevant factor.
Top players want to play in clubs that guarantee them trophies and victories, and they can also pay well. Personally, if I were a top player and I got an offer from Barcelona, a club that can no longer guarantee trophies and money, and Newcastle that will soon be able to guarantee both trophies and money, I know which club I would choose. It has already happened in football that some clubs that used to be greats and European champions, such as HSV or Nottingham Forest, later fail and become irrelevant.
Barcelona don't have much time to fix their catastrophic financial situation and avoid such a scenario.

Very rarely, serious changes occur without consequences and in a short time. You can talk as much as you like about whether Barcelona has time to transform or not, but the fact remains that in its current state, Barcelona is unlikely to be able to claim the title of the winner of the Champions League. Regarding Newcastle, I would like to say that the project is just being launched and is only in the initial stages, and therefore it is not a fact that a potential player will necessarily rush to Newcastle, yet the status of Barcelona for players at this point in time is much higher and Newcastle will need to pay potential highly qualified newcomers much more than Barcelona so that they choose an English club.

[Swordsoffreedom]

In Group D, the Sheriff's dream will come to an end. Real Madrid and Inter manage to get out of the group.

The Sheriff still has hope while Inter must not make any more mistakes with a draw this will threaten Inter Milan not to qualify so the competition in Group D with the Sheriff will continue until the next match between Inter vs Sheriff.
The Sheriff and Madrid have 6 points if they both win then that goes to the next round, so Inter Milan are still trying to win this is a big challenge and Simone Inzhage should be able to take their team through as well.

Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

First of all, if Inter Milan wants to go to the next round, they have to win this match, otherwise it will be challenging for them to go to the next round. Since Sheriff is now in a stable position. The Sheriff will want to draw their next matches. Their big achievement is that they were able to beat Real Madrid. However, Inter Milan will not give any chance to the Sheriff team, they are an experienced team. They will be able to win the match by reigning.

[hahay]

In Group D, the Sheriff's dream will come to an end. Real Madrid and Inter manage to get out of the group.

The Sheriff still has hope while Inter must not make any more mistakes with a draw this will threaten Inter Milan not to qualify so the competition in Group D with the Sheriff will continue until the next match between Inter vs Sheriff.
The Sheriff and Madrid have 6 points if they both win then that goes to the next round, so Inter Milan are still trying to win this is a big challenge and Simone Inzhage should be able to take their team through as well.

Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

First of all, if Inter Milan wants to go to the next round, they have to win this match, otherwise it will be challenging for them to go to the next round. Since Sheriff is now in a stable position. The Sheriff will want to draw their next matches. Their big achievement is that they were able to beat Real Madrid. However, Inter Milan will not give any chance to the Sheriff team, they are an experienced team. They will be able to win the match by reigning.

Sheriff Tiraspol's big chance is only third place, Madrid and Inter even though they are only in second and third place at the moment, but that doesn't mean Madrid and Inter will give up easily. Madrid and Inter have a winning mentality that is no longer in doubt, Sheriff Tiraspol's victory at the start was just an initial surprise that I personally am not sure Sheriff Tiraspol will be able to maintain for the second match against Madrid later. At least it has been proven from yesterday's match when Sheriff Tiraspol lost 3-1 by Inter, maybe Sheriff Tiraspol will still win against Shakhtar Donetsk and it will only make him have 9 points at the end. If Inter can win in their remaining 2 matches against Shakhtar Donetsk and Sheriff Tiraspol then obviously, Inter will have a final 10 points meaning Madrid and Inter are very likely to fill the first and second places.

[poldanmig]

In Group D, the Sheriff's dream will come to an end. Real Madrid and Inter manage to get out of the group.

The Sheriff still has hope while Inter must not make any more mistakes with a draw this will threaten Inter Milan not to qualify so the competition in Group D with the Sheriff will continue until the next match between Inter vs Sheriff.
The Sheriff and Madrid have 6 points if they both win then that goes to the next round, so Inter Milan are still trying to win this is a big challenge and Simone Inzhage should be able to take their team through as well.

Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

yes right now the sheriff only need a few more wins to be able to lock their qualification to the next round, but to be honest I'm not sure if the sheriffs will be able to repeat their prowess in the second leg match later, moreover they have suffered defeat from the previous intermilan and intermilan who need a win of course will return to playing like when they defeated the sheriff 3-1, while real madrid which is now starting to rise will also not be easily defeated by the sheriff and I see that only shaktar may be the sherrif weakest opponent in the second leg.

[tyz]

Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

I think it's going to be difficult for Sheriff. They still have to play against Real Madrid and Inter Milan. Both games are at home which is certainly an advantage, but these two top teams won't underestimate Sheriff again. If Sheriff can win one of the two games, then they have a good chance to reach the next round. I don't think so though. For sure they will continue to play in the Euro League, because I don't think Schachtar will catch up.

[$crypto$]

Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

I think it's going to be difficult for Sheriff. They still have to play against Real Madrid and Inter Milan. Both games are at home which is certainly an advantage, but these two top teams won't underestimate Sheriff again. If Sheriff can win one of the two games, then they have a good chance to reach the next round. I don't think so though. For sure they will continue to play in the Euro League, because I don't think Schachtar will catch up.

Let's say the Sheriff lost to Real Madrid and a draw with Inter Milan is also an advantage for the Sheriff who will qualify but will they be able to hold the top team in Group D at least there is a draw from the two matches?
I said Real Madrid can qualify but will still try for the Italian team who are demanding to win twice otherwise there will be no chance, maybe move to the Europa League.
But I wonder if Inter Milan can be consistent for this difficult game?

[Juggy777]

Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

I think it's going to be difficult for Sheriff. They still have to play against Real Madrid and Inter Milan. Both games are at home which is certainly an advantage, but these two top teams won't underestimate Sheriff again. If Sheriff can win one of the two games, then they have a good chance to reach the next round. I don't think so though. For sure they will continue to play in the Euro League, because I don't think Schachtar will catch up.

Let's say the Sheriff lost to Real Madrid and a draw with Inter Milan is also an advantage for the Sheriff who will qualify but will they be able to hold the top team in Group D at least there is a draw from the two matches?
I said Real Madrid can qualify but will still try for the Italian team who are demanding to win twice otherwise there will be no chance, maybe move to the Europa League.
But I wonder if Inter Milan can be consistent for this difficult game?

I believe Sheriff will be knocked out because Real Madrid and Inter Milan are in fine form, hence it’s difficult to imagine that these two teams will lose or draw against Sheriff.

Also if Inter Milan gets knocked out it’ll be a shocker, because I feel they can cause few upsets in the champions league hence I’m hoping that they can qualify for the next round.

[laurenB7742]

^ Barcelona is facing some real problems right now because they are in a really bad cycle. If they sell some players in the upcoming transfer window, they might not be able to stay in the top 4, so they won't be able to play champions league, so they will get less money. They can't buy anyone too. They can't even sack their manager because if they sack him, as per rules they have to pay the whole contract length. They can't afford that right now. So I think they just need to survive for 2-3 seasons then get some financial stability. Then Maybe they can buy some players.

Personally, I don’t think Barcelona have time to wait a few years.
Changes in football happen very quickly and if you can’t keep up with those changes, then you fall away as a relevant factor.
Top players want to play in clubs that guarantee them trophies and victories, and they can also pay well.
Personally, if I were a top player and I got an offer from Barcelona, a club that can no longer guarantee trophies and money, and Newcastle that will soon be able to guarantee both trophies and money, I know which club I would choose.
It has already happened in football that some clubs that used to be greats and European champions, such as HSV or Nottingham Forest, later fail and become irrelevant.
Barcelona don't have much time to fix their catastrophic financial situation and avoid such a scenario.

I think I oppose you. I won't say that you are totally wrong, but If I get a contract from both Barca and Newcastle at this moment, I will choose Barce over the other one. Because 2 reasons - 1. I will get the environment for development in Barca and also the PR for me and 2. Newcastle although will offer me a huge amount of money but they are still at least 3 years behind being a top club in Europe as they will need that time to buy players and gain the chemistry among them. So, yes Barca is in a crisis, but at the same time, I don't think they will need more than 2 seasons to recover from this.

[KTChampions]

Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

What do you mean by good chances of finishing second? If the Sheriff wins 2 games out of the remaining three, then it will take either first or second place - no other result is possible mathematically. As for your wish, it is almost predetermined - bookmakers evaluate this event with a 1.16 odds. If I remember correctly, even before the match with Inter these odds were 1.25-1.3.

[Luzin]

In Group D, the Sheriff's dream will come to an end. Real Madrid and Inter manage to get out of the group.

The sheriff still has plenty of chances to qualify for the knockout stages.
If you look at the rest of the game, it's a tough step for the Sheriff. If they want to qualify they have to fight extra hard. Indeed, on paper Madrid and Inter are very superior, but in football anything can happen. So maybe we can see the determination of qualifying in the final group match.