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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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October 28, 2021, 12:37:11 PM
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There are some news about Erling Haaland's injury like he can be out until the first month of 2022. This is really a big loss for Dortmund. As Dortmund are going to play against Ajax in one week again, they would like to take revenge on them. Because they got a really huge 4-0 defeat. But without Haaland, their job will not be easy here. But still, I expect them to score this time. I don't think that Dortmund will lose this one.
Dortmund can still win this one despite the fact that Haaland is injured and he is going to be out for some week.Itt is heard it might be till new year.
This is really going to be a problem to Dortmund,it can even make them loose for Ajax.
Nevertheless,Dortmund had proved to play very well this season even when Haaland was absent,so we can see that Dortmund is in a good shape to win that match than Ajax.

They have already played quite a few matches without Haaland and did somewhat good enough results. But not having him till January 2022 is very unfortunate news for them. And about the Ajax match, I'm hopeful that they will be able to win that one as they have scored goals lately. As I thought that they might struggle in the scoring department without Haaland but that is not the case for them. I hope Haaland can return as soon as possible on the pitch again.

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October 28, 2021, 01:03:39 PM
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There are some news about Erling Haaland's injury like he can be out until the first month of 2022. This is really a big loss for Dortmund. As Dortmund are going to play against Ajax in one week again, they would like to take revenge on them. Because they got a really huge 4-0 defeat. But without Haaland, their job will not be easy here. But still, I expect them to score this time. I don't think that Dortmund will lose this one.
Dortmund can still win this one despite the fact that Haaland is injured and he is going to be out for some week.Itt is heard it might be till new year.
This is really going to be a problem to Dortmund,it can even make them loose for Ajax.
Nevertheless,Dortmund had proved to play very well this season even when Haaland was absent,so we can see that Dortmund is in a good shape to win that match than Ajax.

They have already played quite a few matches without Haaland and did somewhat good enough results. But not having him till January 2022 is very unfortunate news for them. And about the Ajax match, I'm hopeful that they will be able to win that one as they have scored goals lately. As I thought that they might struggle in the scoring department without Haaland but that is not the case for them. I hope Haaland can return as soon as possible on the pitch again.
Yes, but it would be much better if Haaland played but that is not possible because he has a very serious injury which is a muscle injury in his hip flexors and it will take a long time to recover.
and it looks like in the next match Dortmund will focus on attacking because a 4-0 defeat will make Dortmund want to take revenge on Ajax for the big goalless defeat that Dortmund must avenge.
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October 28, 2021, 01:20:14 PM
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In football anything can happen before the referee blows the final whistle. I agree with you, Sheriff could surprise Madrid or Inter by beating them again. Proportionally and common sense maybe it's difficult to happen but just look at the first match, everything was beyond their predictions to beat Madrid. Although to be honest I support Madrid to qualify but in reality at this time Inter, Madrid and the Sheriff still have a chance to fight for tickets to qualify for the group stage.

What you say is absolutely true. I saw Champions League finals lost with 2 minutes left (Manchester United!).
However, miracles do not always happen, they are sporadic events due to exceptional physical and mental fitness, to some stroke of luck for those who win and bad luck for those who lose.

Yes, Sherif beat Real Madrid in their home against their full-powered squad which is a huge deal but I don't think they will be able to do it twice in a row cause you said "miracles don't happen every day". This time Real will be prepared for them and the same goes in the case of Milan. But I have to appreciate that they are playing very well lately.

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October 28, 2021, 01:22:12 PM
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Yes, but it would be much better if Haaland played but that is not possible because he has a very serious injury which is a muscle injury in his hip flexors and it will take a long time to recover.
and it looks like in the next match Dortmund will focus on attacking because a 4-0 defeat will make Dortmund want to take revenge on Ajax for the big goalless defeat that Dortmund must avenge.
The best decision is to let Haaland rest in peace at the moment because his current condition is very bad with injuries that will take him a few weeks to recover.
On the other hand, this match becomes an arena of revenge. and they are now playing at home which will make things even better.
but don't miss it like the previous match because if that happens then the rival sporting cp who is below it will have the opportunity to shift dortmund
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October 28, 2021, 01:31:54 PM
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Yes, Sherif beat Real Madrid in their home against their full-powered squad which is a huge deal but I don't think they will be able to do it twice in a row cause you said "miracles don't happen every day". This time Real will be prepared for them and the same goes in the case of Milan. But I have to appreciate that they are playing very well lately.
Before facing madrid, the sheriffs must first face intermilan at their own home and obviously it is not an easy thing, especially before they have lost to intermilan, although they are currently at the top of the standings with 6 points, but their position is still very vulnerable and that's why they need to be able to win at least another two games to have any chance of qualifying.

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October 28, 2021, 01:50:49 PM
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Yes, Sherif beat Real Madrid in their home against their full-powered squad which is a huge deal but I don't think they will be able to do it twice in a row cause you said "miracles don't happen every day". This time Real will be prepared for them and the same goes in the case of Milan. But I have to appreciate that they are playing very well lately.
Before facing madrid, the sheriffs must first face intermilan at their own home and obviously it is not an easy thing, especially before they have lost to intermilan, although they are currently at the top of the standings with 6 points, but their position is still very vulnerable and that's why they need to be able to win at least another two games to have any chance of qualifying.

Can it be used as a benchmark about before against Madrid that Sheriff Tiraspol played Inter first? I don't think it can be used as a reference that Sheriff Tiraspol will be tired because it is clear, the distance from the schedule is far and they can prepare as well as possible. Also, Sheriff Tiraspol doesn't need two wins to be sure to qualify, Sheriff Tiraspol only needs one win and the rest is a draw, that's enough for Sheriff Tiraspol to qualify for the knockout round. But considering that Sheriff Tiraspol still has to play against Madrid and Inter, then obviously the mission will be tough and I've said before about Sheriff Tiraspol who is very likely to only finish third.

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October 28, 2021, 03:18:50 PM
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Can it be used as a benchmark about before against Madrid that Sheriff Tiraspol played Inter first? I don't think it can be used as a reference that Sheriff Tiraspol will be tired because it is clear, the distance from the schedule is far and they can prepare as well as possible. Also, Sheriff Tiraspol doesn't need two wins to be sure to qualify, Sheriff Tiraspol only needs one win and the rest is a draw, that's enough for Sheriff Tiraspol to qualify for the knockout round. But considering that Sheriff Tiraspol still has to play against Madrid and Inter, then obviously the mission will be tough and I've said before about Sheriff Tiraspol who is very likely to only finish third.

If Real beat Inter, then the Sheriff will have to play 3 times in a draw to qualify from the group. But I don't really believe in all these theoretical options. I'm 99% sure that from the next round the Sheriff will fall back to 3rd place in the group and stay there until the very end. The saddest thing is that in the last round of the group stage, the Shakhtar vs Sheriff match will not decide anything.

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October 28, 2021, 03:26:54 PM
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If you think that I am a fan of PSG, then you are very mistaken, I am rooting against teams that are obvious moneybags (PSG and City). By the way, I don't think PSG are in the favorites because of Messi, the real reason is the rest of the squad: Neymar + Mbappe + etc.
Assuming that Bayern and Liverpool play right now, I think Bayern will easily win with a big score ike 4-1, 5-2...
I like the way you think, given that after Messi's arrival, PSG ceased to be my favorite and, by the way, I noticed that games with the simultaneous participation of three stars end unsatisfactorily, (Messi + Neymar + Mbappe). As for Bayern, I like this club only for the reason that their manager knows the count of money, so the club never has debts, despite the fact that they are the clear favorites of all tournaments. (but in a match with Liverpool, I would bet on a draw since Salah is in great shape now).  Wink

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October 28, 2021, 03:32:01 PM
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Yes, Sherif beat Real Madrid in their home against their full-powered squad which is a huge deal but I don't think they will be able to do it twice in a row cause you said "miracles don't happen every day". This time Real will be prepared for them and the same goes in the case of Milan. But I have to appreciate that they are playing very well lately.
Before facing madrid, the sheriffs must first face intermilan at their own home and obviously it is not an easy thing, especially before they have lost to intermilan, although they are currently at the top of the standings with 6 points, but their position is still very vulnerable and that's why they need to be able to win at least another two games to have any chance of qualifying.

Can it be used as a benchmark about before against Madrid that Sheriff Tiraspol played Inter first? I don't think it can be used as a reference that Sheriff Tiraspol will be tired because it is clear, the distance from the schedule is far and they can prepare as well as possible. Also, Sheriff Tiraspol doesn't need two wins to be sure to qualify, Sheriff Tiraspol only needs one win and the rest is a draw, that's enough for Sheriff Tiraspol to qualify for the knockout round. But considering that Sheriff Tiraspol still has to play against Madrid and Inter, then obviously the mission will be tough and I've said before about Sheriff Tiraspol who is very likely to only finish third.
even so it would be very difficult for the sheriff to be able to maintain his current position.
there will always be a chance, but it's very slim. having to play defensively in order to force a draw score is not an easy thing when playing against real madrid and inter.
it will be quite surprising indeed if the sheriff passes to the next phase but maybe at this time the sheriff will only occupy the 3rd position at the end and will travel to the european league

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October 28, 2021, 08:51:21 PM
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Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot.
They do not even need the two wins to go to the next round as long as they get one win and one draw and that draw is against Inter, that could be more than enough to move forward on the tournament, it is not going to be easy but they already did the most difficult task by being the leaders of their group.



But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.
Personally I do not mind teams that were supposed to get eliminated early moving to the later rounds as this makes the tournament more exciting by adding an element of unpredictability to it.



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October 28, 2021, 09:07:27 PM
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Can it be used as a benchmark about before against Madrid that Sheriff Tiraspol played Inter first? I don't think it can be used as a reference that Sheriff Tiraspol will be tired because it is clear, the distance from the schedule is far and they can prepare as well as possible. Also, Sheriff Tiraspol doesn't need two wins to be sure to qualify, Sheriff Tiraspol only needs one win and the rest is a draw, that's enough for Sheriff Tiraspol to qualify for the knockout round. But considering that Sheriff Tiraspol still has to play against Madrid and Inter, then obviously the mission will be tough and I've said before about Sheriff Tiraspol who is very likely to only finish third.

If Real beat Inter, then the Sheriff will have to play 3 times in a draw to qualify from the group. But I don't really believe in all these theoretical options. I'm 99% sure that from the next round the Sheriff will fall back to 3rd place in the group and stay there until the very end. The saddest thing is that in the last round of the group stage, the Shakhtar vs Sheriff match will not decide anything.
The match that determines the fate of the three teams, namely Real Madrid, Inter and Sherif.
just a little bit they missed then the chances of getting away are getting smaller.
and maybe one of the opportunities is to maximize the match against shakhtar for the sheriff because it is the most balanced match.
indeed for the first game they were so lucky and became dark horses, but now inter and madrid will not stay silent about this

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Very well said and keep in mind, Suarez was more than just a key player for the team, he was also an absolute key player for Messi! I am not referring to their friendship (which might also play a role, I don't know), but their harmony to play with each other on the pitch, to wish the teammate success, leave a penalty for the other guy, no how your teammate moves, and in the end, both are the ultimate strikers that can score from everywhere. Suarez, just think about the number of free kicks he won in favor of Barcelona close to the box. The two guys, there were so many synergies, Suarez should have stayed in Barcelona.

It is that this is a subject under which I do not understand how the technical directors and managers of a team do not study, okay, there is a crisis, there is no money (in the worst case) but do not treat their best players as something less Or unimportant, the way that Suárez was fired from Barcelona was not the most ethical, nor the appropriate way, that you get fired just for a phone call is not something ethical and less of a club so famous worldwide.

There are ways of attacking problems, of saying things, and I think that is the problem that many teams have, not only Barcelona, but also Real Madrid has those same failures, and I think everything is beginning to take its own weight, Barcelona It is no longer the strong or powerful team that it was, like Real Madrid, now the powerful teams are those that are part of their best former players, some call it Karma, and others justice.

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October 29, 2021, 02:19:18 AM
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There are some news about Erling Haaland's injury like he can be out until the first month of 2022. This is really a big loss for Dortmund. As Dortmund are going to play against Ajax in one week again, they would like to take revenge on them. Because they got a really huge 4-0 defeat. But without Haaland, their job will not be easy here. But still, I expect them to score this time. I don't think that Dortmund will lose this one.
Dortmund can still win this one despite the fact that Haaland is injured and he is going to be out for some week.Itt is heard it might be till new year.
This is really going to be a problem to Dortmund,it can even make them loose for Ajax.
Nevertheless,Dortmund had proved to play very well this season even when Haaland was absent,so we can see that Dortmund is in a good shape to win that match than Ajax.
They have already played quite a few matches without Haaland and did somewhat good enough results. But not having him till January 2022 is very unfortunate news for them. And about the Ajax match, I'm hopeful that they will be able to win that one as they have scored goals lately. As I thought that they might struggle in the scoring department without Haaland but that is not the case for them. I hope Haaland can return as soon as possible on the pitch again.
Yes, but it would be much better if Haaland played but that is not possible because he has a very serious injury which is a muscle injury in his hip flexors and it will take a long time to recover.
and it looks like in the next match Dortmund will focus on attacking because a 4-0 defeat will make Dortmund want to take revenge on Ajax for the big goalless defeat that Dortmund must avenge.

Without Haaland, Dortmund are able to score, they can win, but I don't think they will be able to win 4-0 against a strong team like Ajax. If Haaland were in the team, maybe Dortmund could have scored 4 goals. But at the moment without Haaland, I don't think he can win 4-0. My guess is that Dortmund will win 2-1 or 3-2. However, winning the match against Ajax will not be easy. And of course you have to play attacking in this match. It will be difficult to win if you play defensively against a strong team like Ajax.

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October 29, 2021, 03:34:38 AM
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There are some news about Erling Haaland's injury like he can be out until the first month of 2022. This is really a big loss for Dortmund. As Dortmund are going to play against Ajax in one week again, they would like to take revenge on them. Because they got a really huge 4-0 defeat. But without Haaland, their job will not be easy here. But still, I expect them to score this time. I don't think that Dortmund will lose this one.
Dortmund can still win this one despite the fact that Haaland is injured and he is going to be out for some week.Itt is heard it might be till new year.
This is really going to be a problem to Dortmund,it can even make them loose for Ajax.
Nevertheless,Dortmund had proved to play very well this season even when Haaland was absent,so we can see that Dortmund is in a good shape to win that match than Ajax.
They have already played quite a few matches without Haaland and did somewhat good enough results. But not having him till January 2022 is very unfortunate news for them. And about the Ajax match, I'm hopeful that they will be able to win that one as they have scored goals lately. As I thought that they might struggle in the scoring department without Haaland but that is not the case for them. I hope Haaland can return as soon as possible on the pitch again.
Yes, but it would be much better if Haaland played but that is not possible because he has a very serious injury which is a muscle injury in his hip flexors and it will take a long time to recover.
and it looks like in the next match Dortmund will focus on attacking because a 4-0 defeat will make Dortmund want to take revenge on Ajax for the big goalless defeat that Dortmund must avenge.
Without Haaland, Dortmund are able to score, they can win, but I don't think they will be able to win 4-0 against a strong team like Ajax. If Haaland were in the team, maybe Dortmund could have scored 4 goals. But at the moment without Haaland, I don't think he can win 4-0. My guess is that Dortmund will win 2-1 or 3-2. However, winning the match against Ajax will not be easy. And of course you have to play attacking in this match. It will be difficult to win if you play defensively against a strong team like Ajax.

You are right. While Dortmund are a good team without Haaland, it will not be easy to score 4 goals against an experienced team like Ajax. Don't think that Ajax is a weak team. They are strong as well as experienced. Ajax has scored 37 goals in 10 games in the Eredivisie League. They can score a lot of goals, but I was surprised to see that they conceded only 2 goals. It is easy to understand that Ajax's defense is very strong. They have scored 11 goals and conceded just one in the Champions League. Dortmund will be able to score 4 goals against such a team, but without Haaland, I don't think so.

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October 29, 2021, 06:25:16 AM
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There are some news about Erling Haaland's injury like he can be out until the first month of 2022. This is really a big loss for Dortmund. As Dortmund are going to play against Ajax in one week again, they would like to take revenge on them. Because they got a really huge 4-0 defeat. But without Haaland, their job will not be easy here. But still, I expect them to score this time. I don't think that Dortmund will lose this one.
Dortmund can still win this one despite the fact that Haaland is injured and he is going to be out for some week.Itt is heard it might be till new year.
This is really going to be a problem to Dortmund,it can even make them loose for Ajax.
Nevertheless,Dortmund had proved to play very well this season even when Haaland was absent,so we can see that Dortmund is in a good shape to win that match than Ajax.
They have already played quite a few matches without Haaland and did somewhat good enough results. But not having him till January 2022 is very unfortunate news for them. And about the Ajax match, I'm hopeful that they will be able to win that one as they have scored goals lately. As I thought that they might struggle in the scoring department without Haaland but that is not the case for them. I hope Haaland can return as soon as possible on the pitch again.
Yes, but it would be much better if Haaland played but that is not possible because he has a very serious injury which is a muscle injury in his hip flexors and it will take a long time to recover.
and it looks like in the next match Dortmund will focus on attacking because a 4-0 defeat will make Dortmund want to take revenge on Ajax for the big goalless defeat that Dortmund must avenge.
Without Haaland, Dortmund are able to score, they can win, but I don't think they will be able to win 4-0 against a strong team like Ajax. If Haaland were in the team, maybe Dortmund could have scored 4 goals. But at the moment without Haaland, I don't think he can win 4-0. My guess is that Dortmund will win 2-1 or 3-2. However, winning the match against Ajax will not be easy. And of course you have to play attacking in this match. It will be difficult to win if you play defensively against a strong team like Ajax.

You are right. While Dortmund are a good team without Haaland, it will not be easy to score 4 goals against an experienced team like Ajax. Don't think that Ajax is a weak team. They are strong as well as experienced. Ajax has scored 37 goals in 10 games in the Eredivisie League. They can score a lot of goals, but I was surprised to see that they conceded only 2 goals. It is easy to understand that Ajax's defense is very strong. They have scored 11 goals and conceded just one in the Champions League. Dortmund will be able to score 4 goals against such a team, but without Haaland, I don't think so.
Dortmund will go into the season without Haaland who is confirmed to be seriously injured and the initial prediction is that he will be out for more than 12 weeks, a big loss for Dortmund as Haaland is the most prolific player in scoring goals either in the Champions League or in the Bundesliga, at least in the January transfer window. Dortmund must find a new striker to fill the position left by Haaland. It is proven that without Haaland Dortmund having to admit the superiority of Ajax Amterdam with a large enough score and the first 4-0 defeat, next week will prove to Dortmund whether they are able to steal points from Ajax or will they be humiliated again?

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Yes, Sherif beat Real Madrid in their home against their full-powered squad which is a huge deal but I don't think they will be able to do it twice in a row cause you said "miracles don't happen every day". This time Real will be prepared for them and the same goes in the case of Milan. But I have to appreciate that they are playing very well lately.

yes.. this is the match point of my discussion

miracles happen, but when the big ones see that you have played well, take precautions and start to fear yourself by playing more focused
I'm not saying it won't happen again, but it will be more difficult

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Yes, Sherif beat Real Madrid in their home against their full-powered squad which is a huge deal but I don't think they will be able to do it twice in a row cause you said "miracles don't happen every day". This time Real will be prepared for them and the same goes in the case of Milan. But I have to appreciate that they are playing very well lately.

yes.. this is the match point of my discussion

miracles happen, but when the big ones see that you have played well, take precautions and start to fear yourself by playing more focused
I'm not saying it won't happen again, but it will be more difficult
'More difficult' should be the phrase used sheriff took advantage of a little lapses in Real Maldrids defense. And if sheriff plays against Maldrid again they might just play defensive midfield with no intention to win again football is a game played not just by skills and good teams alone. In most cases wisdom maintain a victory over a strong team is all that is required
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October 29, 2021, 10:00:52 AM
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Personally I do not mind teams that were supposed to get eliminated early moving to the later rounds as this makes the tournament more exciting by adding an element of unpredictability to it.

If this team has the resource to continue its performance at a decent level, then I am also happy with such events. But in fact, this is a very rare occurrence and I will be very disappointed (after enduring the tedious group stage) if I see a Sheriff - City match instead of Real - City  Wink

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October 29, 2021, 11:21:50 AM
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Yes, Sherif beat Real Madrid in their home against their full-powered squad which is a huge deal but I don't think they will be able to do it twice in a row cause you said "miracles don't happen every day". This time Real will be prepared for them and the same goes in the case of Milan. But I have to appreciate that they are playing very well lately.

yes.. this is the match point of my discussion

miracles happen, but when the big ones see that you have played well, take precautions and start to fear yourself by playing more focused
I'm not saying it won't happen again, but it will be more difficult
'More difficult' should be the phrase used sheriff took advantage of a little lapses in Real Maldrids defense. And if sheriff plays against Maldrid again they might just play defensive midfield with no intention to win again
In my opinion if the sheriff prefers to play it safe by defending against madrid it is certainly very dangerous for the sheriff, because madrid now is not the madrid they faced at the beginning of the champions league, madrid now have recovered and their attack line is now sharp enough to score against the opponent, so if the sheriffs play safe to get a draw, of course, it is possible that they will lose the match, in my opinion the sheriff journey to penetrate the next round is not an easy thing and they are also very prone to being eliminated later.

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October 29, 2021, 02:00:36 PM
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Yes, Sherif beat Real Madrid in their home against their full-powered squad which is a huge deal but I don't think they will be able to do it twice in a row cause you said "miracles don't happen every day". This time Real will be prepared for them and the same goes in the case of Milan. But I have to appreciate that they are playing very well lately.
yes.. this is the match point of my discussion
miracles happen, but when the big ones see that you have played well, take precautions and start to fear yourself by playing more focused
I'm not saying it won't happen again, but it will be more difficult
'More difficult' should be the phrase used sheriff took advantage of a little lapses in Real Maldrids defense. And if sheriff plays against Maldrid again they might just play defensive midfield with no intention to win again
In my opinion if the sheriff prefers to play it safe by defending against madrid it is certainly very dangerous for the sheriff, because madrid now is not the madrid they faced at the beginning of the champions league, madrid now have recovered and their attack line is now sharp enough to score against the opponent, so if the sheriffs play safe to get a draw, of course, it is possible that they will lose the match, in my opinion the sheriff journey to penetrate the next round is not an easy thing and they are also very prone to being eliminated later.

Even if they qualify I hardly believe that they will win any match. But before that, they have to win against both Real and Milan which seems like an impossible task for them. And I agree with you, Real at the beginning of the CL and the Real now are different. They have found their scoring boots and are in good form.

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