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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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February 11, 2022, 06:14:20 PM
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Ronaldo may not be the best player anymore, but he is still very valuable. Mbappe is basically much better, faster, and more technical. But Ronaldo has much more experience and has his status with him. At the decisive moments he really put a lot of balls in it. Mbappe has yet to show it all. he has not yet succeeded in that at PSG in the CL.

Ronaldo still has the quality to make the difference. However, he is also a problem for his teams, as the tactics and style of play have to be heavily tuned to him in order for him to shine, and that is not necessarily the best tactic for the team. You noticed that at Juventus and you're noticing it now at ManU. I think the team would be better overall if Ronaldo wasn't part of the team.
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February 11, 2022, 06:24:30 PM
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Ronaldo still has the quality to make the difference. However, he is also a problem for his teams, as the tactics and style of play have to be heavily tuned to him in order for him to shine, and that is not necessarily the best tactic for the team. You noticed that at Juventus and you're noticing it now at ManU. I think the team would be better overall if Ronaldo wasn't part of the team.

How can Ronaldo be considered a problem in the squad?
When a team has a player like Ronaldo, it is up to the coach to design the best strategy, so that the set can work correctly.

So the problem at Juventus and now at Man United is not Ronaldo, but the lack of a technical team capable of putting together a team that knows how to play with Ronaldo.

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February 11, 2022, 08:14:01 PM
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Many people still believe with Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are best player in the world right now and they not memorize how old age for both player, looking on statistic between Messi and Ronaldo I think not really potential as best player for this season. But we need waiting with Manchester United and PSG how far they can talk in champion league on this season. Can Ronaldo make United pass to final and Messi can give champion league first trophy for PSG? still have one week later for Manchester United against Villareal and PSG will get difficult faced with Real Madrid on champion league knock out.

As much as Ronaldo and Messi fans would argue that the pair are still on top of their game, it's not hard to see that they have passed their peaks and their performances from the last 2-3 seasons have been diminishing. Between Man Utd and PSG, only PSG has the best chance to make it to the finals - judging from Man Utd recent PL results, it's a good thing they have a pretty easy team compared to PSG that are up against Madrid.
As it stands, no team is easy for Manchester united and talking about Atletico Madrid they are never an easy team, when it comes to the champions league there is no small or big team, any team can win. Over the years PSG with all the money and quality players they have have been eliminated by teams that have spent less. And if you look at things right Manchester united are no different from Atletico Madrid. So I will pick Atletico Madrid to advance to the next round over Manchester united. We all know C. Ronaldo is a goal scorer and he is still a good player but he is just in the wrong club with a manager that has no clue about what he is doing and what he is fighting for.
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February 11, 2022, 08:52:16 PM
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agree with what you said, his era is not over but indeed the top European leagues are now quite tough so indeed he can't have high hopes for him now even though his performances are still quite good.
On the other hand, I still believe I am also quite pessimistic that they can reach the quarter-finals at UCL because their current performance is getting worse and worse.
Many people still believe with Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are best player in the world right now and they not memorize how old age for both player, looking on statistic between Messi and Ronaldo I think not really potential as best player for this season. But we need waiting with Manchester United and PSG how far they can talk in champion league on this season. Can Ronaldo make United pass to final and Messi can give champion league first trophy for PSG? still have one week later for Manchester United against Villareal and PSG will get difficult faced with Real Madrid on champion league knock out.
I don't really know specifically how to judge what the best players are, but judging from their age, they are already starting to experience a decline in both Performance and Productivity.
As for the opinions of people who say that they are the best players, they are actually quite reasonable because in the last few years apart from their turbulent rivalry, they are also the two players who are hailed the most by football fans. fun if not to discuss these two players in it.
I rectify a little that Manchester United are fighting now that it is Atletico not Villarreal and indeed this will be good enough evidence whether Ronaldo's magic will still work for Atletico.
For PSG itself I will not be sure that far and maybe even fall in the phase against madrid later

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February 11, 2022, 08:59:55 PM
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Real Madrid's most important player Benzema is still injured. It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post.
Is he not yet confirmed whether will play or not? I can't remember what I have seen in the newspaper today; it was somewhat green AFAIK. He is likely to be missing the match against Villareal but will be playing the UCL. That's what I have read if I can remember correctly. Nevertheless, as I said above, though RMA will be missing Benzema if he doesn't play, still it will be a good day for Madrid; not for PSG  Cheesy

From the looks of it, the matches will indeed be very difficult and interesting for the spectators, I don't know what to say about that. In principle PSG has a full squad and nobody is injured (or is there? Maybe I'm wrong), so believe me, for Real it will be no less difficult match, I still think that PSG will win, I do not know, I really believe in it

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February 11, 2022, 10:10:00 PM
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Many people still believe with Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are best player in the world right now and they not memorize how old age for both player, looking on statistic between Messi and Ronaldo I think not really potential as best player for this season. But we need waiting with Manchester United and PSG how far they can talk in champion league on this season. Can Ronaldo make United pass to final and Messi can give champion league first trophy for PSG? still have one week later for Manchester United against Villareal and PSG will get difficult faced with Real Madrid on champion league knock out.

As much as Ronaldo and Messi fans would argue that the pair are still on top of their game, it's not hard to see that they have passed their peaks and their performances from the last 2-3 seasons have been diminishing. Between Man Utd and PSG, only PSG has the best chance to make it to the finals - judging from Man Utd recent PL results, it's a good thing they have a pretty easy team compared to PSG that are up against Madrid.

I dont think Man Utd even with Ronaldo they wont even reach the quarter finals with how bad they are playing ,they dont stand a chance against any team currently. Messi’s PSG is a superstar team but they dont play like a team and thats why i dont see them winning the champions league. Main favorites are Bayern Munich and Man City and as a surprise team i would choose Ajax.

Previously I was thinking the same as you, but seeing and remembering that CR7 is a person who does not admit failures, I would not trust at all that they will give everything away and give themselves away, on the other hand I see that Bayern Munich has become very strong and really I see them as the main candidate to win, just as I would not underestimate Messi and his PSG since at any moment they could give a big surprise, in this case we could say that AJAX would be a pleasant surprise if they could win.

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February 11, 2022, 10:12:32 PM
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There is another great match is waiting for us one day after the PSG - Real Madrid match. Inter have a home match against Liverpool. This can be a really close match as it is in Giuseppe Meazza. If it was in Anfield, I wouldn't say the same thing because Liverpool would take control of it and wouldn't give it to Inter in any half. Hence, this might be Inter's biggest chance. If they win, we can count them as advantageous. But if they draw with Liverpool or lose, then they would most likely say goodbye to the CL.
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February 11, 2022, 10:55:53 PM
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Real Madrid's most important player Benzema is still injured. It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post.
Is he not yet confirmed whether will play or not? I can't remember what I have seen in the newspaper today; it was somewhat green AFAIK. He is likely to be missing the match against Villareal but will be playing the UCL. That's what I have read if I can remember correctly. Nevertheless, as I said above, though RMA will be missing Benzema if he doesn't play, still it will be a good day for Madrid; not for PSG  Cheesy
The last time I checked it seems that he has not been completely ruled out or cleared to play the game yet, however if he does no play then who will Ancelotti play in his place? Luka Jovic seems like the natural replacement to play in the absence of Benzema, however another option could be to play Isco instead, still Real Madrid has so many good players that even if the absence of Benzema will hit them it will not be as bad as to decide the game in favor of PSG.
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February 11, 2022, 11:06:49 PM
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Real Madrid's most important player Benzema is still injured. It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post.
Is he not yet confirmed whether will play or not? I can't remember what I have seen in the newspaper today; it was somewhat green AFAIK. He is likely to be missing the match against Villareal but will be playing the UCL. That's what I have read if I can remember correctly. Nevertheless, as I said above, though RMA will be missing Benzema if he doesn't play, still it will be a good day for Madrid; not for PSG  Cheesy
The last time I checked it seems that he has not been completely ruled out or cleared to play the game yet, however if he does no play then who will Ancelotti play in his place? Luka Jovic seems like the natural replacement to play in the absence of Benzema, however another option could be to play Isco instead, still Real Madrid has so many good players that even if the absence of Benzema will hit them it will not be as bad as to decide the game in favor of PSG.

Real Madrid is very good, especially Modric has become a real star. A few years ago also voted world football player of the year. Still, they really need Benzema to score the goals, they have more strikers like Vinicius but Benzema seems to be more of a goal-getter. They will need him badly against PSG. I'm really looking forward to that game next week.

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February 11, 2022, 11:14:20 PM
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There is another great match is waiting for us one day after the PSG - Real Madrid match. Inter have a home match against Liverpool. This can be a really close match as it is in Giuseppe Meazza. If it was in Anfield, I wouldn't say the same thing because Liverpool would take control of it and wouldn't give it to Inter in any half. Hence, this might be Inter's biggest chance. If they win, we can count them as advantageous. But if they draw with Liverpool or lose, then they would most likely say goodbye to the CL.
I expect the unexpected, Real madrid... the one who being underestimated in this match all the time due the fact their recent matches are a bit fucked up .. to silent the psg supporter , and for the inter vs liverpool as well, pretty clear that the bookies put liverpool as the favorite to win but i think the inter quick counter might will create a lot of trouble in liverpool defence.

Real madrid to win @3.62 pretty worth to bet as well as inter milan to win @3.55.

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February 11, 2022, 11:17:13 PM
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Real Madrid's most important player Benzema is still injured. It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post.
Is he not yet confirmed whether will play or not? I can't remember what I have seen in the newspaper today; it was somewhat green AFAIK. He is likely to be missing the match against Villareal but will be playing the UCL. That's what I have read if I can remember correctly. Nevertheless, as I said above, though RMA will be missing Benzema if he doesn't play, still it will be a good day for Madrid; not for PSG  Cheesy
The last time I checked it seems that he has not been completely ruled out or cleared to play the game yet, however if he does no play then who will Ancelotti play in his place? Luka Jovic seems like the natural replacement to play in the absence of Benzema, however another option could be to play Isco instead, still Real Madrid has so many good players that even if the absence of Benzema will hit them it will not be as bad as to decide the game in favor of PSG.
No matter how many good players that are available to play for real Madrid against psg, if Benzema is not available the impact will be feel. Benzema is we known by Madrid and Madrid well known by Benzema. Let us just hope he will be fit, but if he is not fit till that time, Isco should come in for him to be the play maker and vanicious jnr will do the magical finishing. Madrid as a club knows how to play champions league.  I trust them.

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What also interests me is the Man United match. They drew against Atletico Madrid, certainly not a bad draw. I think United are the favorites in this 2-game game, especially since Ronaldo is now in the squad. Atletico are not to be underestimated. That will be Suarez vs Ronaldo, always fun. And oh yes, Griezman too, but I rate him a little less highly.

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February 11, 2022, 11:34:14 PM
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Ronaldo still has the quality to make the difference. However, he is also a problem for his teams, as the tactics and style of play have to be heavily tuned to him in order for him to shine, and that is not necessarily the best tactic for the team. You noticed that at Juventus and you're noticing it now at ManU. I think the team would be better overall if Ronaldo wasn't part of the team.
How can Ronaldo be considered a problem in the squad? When a team has a player like Ronaldo, it is up to the coach to design the best strategy, so that the set can work correctly. So the problem at Juventus and now at Man United is not Ronaldo, but the lack of a technical team capable of putting together a team that knows how to play with Ronaldo.
When a team has a player like Cristiano Ronaldo in its composition, it's still not a problem, but rather an additional trump card that needs to be used. But if such a trump card cannot be used, then this is really a problem Wink But the problem is not Ronaldo, but the problem of the level of the team and the skill of the head coach of the team. By the way, Ronaldo does not appear in all Manchester United matches this season and not always from the very beginning of the match and it cannot be said that he looks better at the same time. Therefore, to say that Manchester United would be better without Ronaldo is not entirely correct. It is more correct to say that Manchester United could be both better and worse without Ronaldo Wink
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February 11, 2022, 11:42:00 PM
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A coach will always draft Ronaldo. In the end, it's all about the sporty aspect. And if there are problems with a star game, surely they should never be so big that they are not drafted? We've been hearing a lot about transgressive behavior lately, I think that's a different case. But coaches often have a big ego, and so does Ronaldo. That can sometimes clash.

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February 12, 2022, 07:49:51 AM
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All of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe will be available against Real Madrid. Does Real Madrid is in danger? PSG's trio are going to keep another clean sheet? Real Madrid have Benzema, Vinicius and Hazard with world-class midfield. Benzema and Vinicius alone has scored more goals than them all combined in this season all competitions, just be humble kiddos. It's very true they suffered against Man City. Let's see on 15th February.

The trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe will try their best to play well in this match. As we have seen in Barcelona, ​​the chemistry between Messi and Neymar is excellent. So again against Real Madrid I want to see better performances from these two players. At the same time Ramos will play against Real Madrid in this match. Ramos is well aware of the weaknesses at Real Madrid. So in this match I will definitely keep the PSG team ahead.
Real Madrid's most important player Benzema is still injured. It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post.
Maybe still not completed with Neymar need recovery after long time injury, will be the formation last night when PSG defeated Renner 1-0 where have trio Xavi Simons, Lionel Messi and Mbappe but still could change with Simos position replace by Mauro Icardi or Angel Di Maria where become reunion with Real Madrid. Defender I think without Ramos when PSG faced Real Madrid because he looks not get regular position with Pocchetino.

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I know on the field played by 11 player but with Manchester United right now have different games style and looks focus when attacking counter for Ronaldo as scoring goal, maybe Manchester United need to change game play who ever have bigger chance to score can make goal without have to focus as cristiano ronaldo always for scoring goal. Maybe Manchester United need try playing without have Ronaldo as starting eleven team and use Cavani as target men.
one squad and playing is teamwork, it doesn't have to focus on only one player who is considered a player who has the potential to score goals. All have their respective duties to continue to maintain the game. So Ronaldo, who is now always covered in his movements, therefore provides opportunities for others to be a good anticipation when Ronaldo is in a closed position. The point is the cohesiveness of a solid team and help each other according to the sector in which they are placed.

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February 12, 2022, 08:36:53 AM
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I know on the field played by 11 player but with Manchester United right now have different games style and looks focus when attacking counter for Ronaldo as scoring goal, maybe Manchester United need to change game play who ever have bigger chance to score can make goal without have to focus as cristiano ronaldo always for scoring goal. Maybe Manchester United need try playing without have Ronaldo as starting eleven team and use Cavani as target men.
one squad and playing is teamwork, it doesn't have to focus on only one player who is considered a player who has the potential to score goals. All have their respective duties to continue to maintain the game. So Ronaldo, who is now always covered in his movements, therefore provides opportunities for others to be a good anticipation when Ronaldo is in a closed position. The point is the cohesiveness of a solid team and help each other according to the sector in which they are placed.

It is never possible to consistently perform well if you depend on a particular player. Despite Manchester United's strong squad, they still rely on Ronaldo. If every Manchester United player tries to play well in their own place, their performance will be further improved. For this, their coach should make the players more confident. Manchester United players lack confidence.

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Ronaldo still has the quality to make the difference. However, he is also a problem for his teams, as the tactics and style of play have to be heavily tuned to him in order for him to shine, and that is not necessarily the best tactic for the team. You noticed that at Juventus and you're noticing it now at ManU. I think the team would be better overall if Ronaldo wasn't part of the team.
I don't think Ronaldo is the problem at Manchester United. There are several names that should be mentioned as obstacles, Greenwood, Frederico Rodrigues and Maguire. Greenwood, he is too selfish in team play, Maguire always makes mistakes that lead to fatal for Manchester. I've seen in some games it's always those names that come up for his mistakes.

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February 12, 2022, 09:48:46 AM
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Ronaldo still has the quality to make the difference. However, he is also a problem for his teams, as the tactics and style of play have to be heavily tuned to him in order for him to shine, and that is not necessarily the best tactic for the team. You noticed that at Juventus and you're noticing it now at ManU. I think the team would be better overall if Ronaldo wasn't part of the team.
I don't think Ronaldo is the problem at Manchester United. There are several names that should be mentioned as obstacles, Greenwood, Frederico Rodrigues and Maguire. Greenwood, he is too selfish in team play, Maguire always makes mistakes that lead to fatal for Manchester. I've seen in some games it's always those names that come up for his mistakes.
In a team, of course, competition to appear better is natural, because that way players will also get more playing minutes. At Manchester United I think it happened, but this mess wasn't because of Ronaldo because before Ronaldo came back, the fact was that Manchester United had been in chaos and it was evident from the several coach changes that were made. Now the team's condition is not even good even though Manchester United has great players, the match against Atletico will certainly be a tough task considering Manchester United's current condition is not getting better.

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February 12, 2022, 11:16:14 AM
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By the way, I don't think that the Inter - Liverpool matchup is going to be very competitive. There is a chance for Inter to show their best performance in Giuseppe Meazza but that's all. I don't think that they will be able to fight back against Liverpool in Anfield in any way. Liverpool would aim to get a good result like a win by one goal or a draw. And they would dominate the second leg and destroy their opponent as a result. Inter are very good in the Serie A but I don't see them good enough to be able to eliminate Liverpool.

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