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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129356 times)
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February 28, 2022, 01:36:35 PM
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Madrid in good form can beat Psg. Psg is not as good as people thought beforehand. On paper it is of course a dream team, but we see that here and there NGOs sometimes go wrong and then Real Madrid is a team that can deal with that effectively. Madrid also still has a very good team. Psg is the favorite to continue, but Madrid is certainly not without a chance.

The qualifier is open between PSG and Real Madrid. It is true that PSG were better than Real Madrid in the first leg.
But Real Madrid has already surprised several times in the second leg, managing to turn around the result. On the other hand, it is normal to see PSG not having a good performance in the second leg, after having won the first leg.


PSG's 1-0 victory over Real Madrid in the first leg of the Champions League last 16 was indeed a valuable asset to lose to the Santiago Bernabeu, where Real Madrid is currently in such an impressive performance both in the domestic competition and in the European Champions League where In the second leg, it will be Real Madrid's turn to host PSG at the Santiago Bernabeu, this is not an easy matter even though Real Madrid are playing at their own headquarters considering that the first match they played was very disappointing where they defended more and could not take advantage of counterattacks. maximum by PSG if Real Madrid are still more concerned with possession of the ball than playing attacking it is not impossible that they can fall in the last 16 phase

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February 28, 2022, 01:47:44 PM
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I think Buyern Munich will improve 2nd leg.Waiting for Bayern vs Salzburg match.Unfortunately 1st leg Bayern Munich played  poor football with Salzburg. But Salzburg played really well with big opponent with Buyern Munich. They have drawn that match.I hope Buyern Munich will win 2nd leg.
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February 28, 2022, 01:53:49 PM
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It looks like the teams will play this match with optimal lineups so they should show a really good game.
As for the advantage in the score of PSG, I believe that it actually does not exist. My reasoning is that if Real are stronger than PSG and are going to knock them out of the tournament, then they should win at least 1-0. If by "accident" they are one goal behind strategically it doesn't change anything
It changes alot just by having a 1-0 lead in the 1st leg. If PSG score another goal against Real Madrid on the 2nd leg, that means Real Madrid needs to score 3 goals to win and that is a huge difference by having 1 goal lead from the previous leg. Also the fact that both teams seems to be equal as you can see on the 1st leg also show that having that 1 goal lead is safe enough to assume that PSG is in the favour to move up to the next round in case the 2nd leg ended up in another 90 minutes stalemate
To be honest, if you look at Madrid's performance in the first leg, I am quite skeptical of them even though they are playing at home in the second leg.
But there are some reasons that are quite logical there because Benzema's first leg is still not in a good way because at that time he even had doubts about playing due to the Hamstring Injury he received and Benzema's fielding became a gamble for Anceloti, But maybe now it will be a little different Benzema and the other players should not be so bad now because they are currently in good form again after some time ago the crisis of victory in the domestic league.
In any case, Real Madrid must play to win if they are going to continue the fight to win the Champions League.

Madrid in good form can beat Psg. Psg is not as good as people thought beforehand. On paper it is of course a dream team, but we see that here and there NGOs sometimes go wrong and then Real Madrid is a team that can deal with that effectively. Madrid also still has a very good team. Psg is the favorite to continue, but Madrid is certainly not without a chance.


Madrid vs PSG both team are favourite but PSG have their some star player and they can change the match against Real madrid. 1st leg score was PSG 1-0 Madrid.1st leg PSG performance was outstanding but they didn’t one more score but they did try their best and messi penalty missed also.I hope PSG will win 2nd leg also and will be qualify next round.
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February 28, 2022, 01:58:48 PM
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It looks like the teams will play this match with optimal lineups so they should show a really good game.
As for the advantage in the score of PSG, I believe that it actually does not exist. My reasoning is that if Real are stronger than PSG and are going to knock them out of the tournament, then they should win at least 1-0. If by "accident" they are one goal behind strategically it doesn't change anything

It changes alot just by having a 1-0 lead in the 1st leg. If PSG score another goal against Real Madrid on the 2nd leg, that means Real Madrid needs to score 3 goals to win and that is a huge difference by having 1 goal lead from the previous leg. Also the fact that both teams seems to be equal as you can see on the 1st leg also show that having that 1 goal lead is safe enough to assume that PSG is in the favour to move up to the next round in case the 2nd leg ended up in another 90 minutes stalemate

Nobody argues that one goal advantage is good. My thought was that from a strategic point of view, this is a negligible advantage. If Real is stronger than PSG, then they will easily turn the game in their favor at the Santiago Bernabeu, if not, then no. That's all.
In the meantime, bookmaker quotes for the match at the moment are as follows:

2,55 - 3,60 - 2,70

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February 28, 2022, 02:04:14 PM
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I think Buyern Munich will improve 2nd leg.Waiting for Bayern vs Salzburg match.Unfortunately 1st leg Bayern Munich played  poor football with Salzburg. But Salzburg played really well with big opponent with Buyern Munich. They have drawn that match.I hope Buyern Munich will win 2nd leg.
The first leg they play at home so the draw is natural. Salzbrug play great in the league, they are at number one of the Austrian League table. It looks like they are ready to be champions this season in the league. The 2nd leg will take place in Germany. I think that's Munchen advantage. They will maximize that, should with the existing players they are able to win easily. I guess the bookmakers will pick Munchen a lot to win. 

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February 28, 2022, 02:20:38 PM
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The qualifier is open between PSG and Real Madrid. It is true that PSG were better than Real Madrid in the first leg.
But Real Madrid has already surprised several times in the second leg, managing to turn around the result. On the other hand, it is normal to see PSG not having a good performance in the second leg, after having won the first leg.
The advantage of PSG in the first match was very solid, Real looked weak, and in the second match, Real Madrid needed to change something cardinally. Playing at home stadium is an advantage, maybe it can help Real Madrid. Real Madrid are in good shape and they are capable of beating PSG, let's see how it will be. for PSG, the Champions League is still the most coveted trophy they can't reach.

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February 28, 2022, 03:06:45 PM
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If Juventus or anyone underestimate Villarreal, it is clearly understandable. The truth is at this stage of the competition, experience comes into play. Not just experience of the players or how good they are but the pedigree of the club in such competition.
Juventus is clearly a bigger dog in European football stage than Villarreal and these things though may look insignificant but do play roles in games like this.
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February 28, 2022, 03:24:01 PM
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To be honest, if you look at Madrid's performance in the first leg, I am quite skeptical of them even though they are playing at home in the second leg.
But there are some reasons that are quite logical there because Benzema's first leg is still not in a good way because at that time he even had doubts about playing due to the Hamstring Injury he received and Benzema's fielding became a gamble for Anceloti, But maybe now it will be a little different Benzema and the other players should not be so bad now because they are currently in good form again after some time ago the crisis of victory in the domestic league.
In any case, Real Madrid must play to win if they are going to continue the fight to win the Champions League. Also, in addition to the Real Madrid game itself, much will depend on which model of the game Paris Saint Germain chooses. But still, I don't think Paris Saint-Germain will choose the same cowardly manner of play that the Real Madrid players demonstrated without striking a single shot on goal in the first match of the confrontation. With all due respect to Rayo Vallecano, I still think that Paris Saint-Germain is higher class and will be able to cause more trouble to the gates of the club from Madrid. And as we know, Real Madrid was able to score only a single goal in the 83rd minute of the meeting.
In this case, I'm sure they will play hard as usual because they are aware that 1 goal aggregate is definitely not safe for them, especially their opponent is Madrid.
I think they will still play openly and try to score at least 1 goal at Barnebeu.
But if it's like that then the safest thing is to play as you say by playing like a coward and will continue to be in defense

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February 28, 2022, 03:29:41 PM
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In the meantime, bookmaker quotes for the match at the moment are as follows:

2,55 - 3,60 - 2,70

Great odds, I'll take both draw and PSG to win on this game because pretty sure that its going to be another draw or PSG might be lucky and score another goal again on the 2nd leg. Real Madrid is not going to be able to catch up with PSG because they have literally shown everything that they had on the 1st leg and yet they cant score a single goal against PSG

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February 28, 2022, 04:04:56 PM
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The qualifier is open between PSG and Real Madrid. It is true that PSG were better than Real Madrid in the first leg.
But Real Madrid has already surprised several times in the second leg, managing to turn around the result. On the other hand, it is normal to see PSG not having a good performance in the second leg, after having won the first leg.
The advantage of PSG in the first match was very solid, Real looked weak, and in the second match, Real Madrid needed to change something cardinally. Playing at home stadium is an advantage, maybe it can help Real Madrid. Real Madrid are in good shape and they are capable of beating PSG, let's see how it will be. for PSG, the Champions League is still the most coveted trophy they can't reach.
Honestly PSG dominated the first leg they didn't give Real Madrid any chances of scoring or to hold possessions at all, if not for some brilliant saves made by Thibaut Courtois including a penalty save, it would have been more than a lone goal, UCL knockout stages doesn't have any home advantage if the home team flop they will be defeated, though PSG wouldn't find it easy at Bernabeu however the in-form Mbappe playing alongside with Messi  would create lot of chances, of course Messi is very familiar with that pitch, I believe PSG will narrowly qualify after the second leg definitely it's will be a very tough match.

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February 28, 2022, 04:18:03 PM
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Madrid in good form can beat Psg. Psg is not as good as people thought beforehand. On paper it is of course a dream team, but we see that here and there NGOs sometimes go wrong and then Real Madrid is a team that can deal with that effectively. Madrid also still has a very good team. Psg is the favorite to continue, but Madrid is certainly not without a chance.

The qualifier is open between PSG and Real Madrid. It is true that PSG were better than Real Madrid in the first leg.
But Real Madrid has already surprised several times in the second leg, managing to turn around the result. On the other hand, it is normal to see PSG not having a good performance in the second leg, after having won the first leg.

In my opinion, if you look at Real Madrid performance now, maybe the results will be different than in Leg 1 with PSG. Now at least Madrid can score goals for Leg 2, I still believe in the quality of Madrid competent goalkeeper with the defense he built so as not to let PSG players easily score goals. And what is even more interesting is that bets at the casino between Real Madrid vs PSG are not too far apart, namely for Madrid 2.55 and for PSG 2.65.

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February 28, 2022, 04:19:37 PM
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It looks like the teams will play this match with optimal lineups so they should show a really good game.
As for the advantage in the score of PSG, I believe that it actually does not exist. My reasoning is that if Real are stronger than PSG and are going to knock them out of the tournament, then they should win at least 1-0. If by "accident" they are one goal behind strategically it doesn't change anything (because they are stronger). Well, if Real is weaker, then there’s nothing to be done and the current advantage of PSG is also not important.
I personally still think Real can still turn things around even though in terms of the game it's quite different, especially for now and seeing the First Leg play PSG is really crazy and they continue to lock Real Madrid.
I actually hope that in Leg 2 there will be something interesting that Real Madrid will show and unlike in the First Leg yesterday, they played quite badly, maybe even the worst they have played in the UCL.

It makes no sense to judge the form of Real Madrid by the matches of the domestic championship. La Liga is already in their pocket, so there is no point in overexerting themselves or showing some prepared schemes. Plus, we must understand that in the match against PSG there will be a completely different motivation and we will see a completely different level of concentration from the players of both teams. At the moment I am optimistic, as Real will play in the optimal composition.
Even if this kind of thing doesn't make sense but at least with something like this it will be even better motivation because they don't think too much about La Liga right now because they are still quite safe.
As for UCL, surely they will also make something better than before because there are indeed slight differences here including Benzema who is now starting to fit and this is one that will be the difference there.
But on the other hand we also cannot rule out PSG in this case because it is certain that they will carry out sporadic attacks like in the first leg

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February 28, 2022, 04:21:56 PM
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Atletico Madrid - Manchester United game is closing in on us. I see that bookmakers see Atletico Madrid as the favourite by an odd like 2.55 and they are giving an odd to Manchester United like 3.10. However, I don't think that Manchester United will lose this game. They have started performing well lately. I know that Atletico Madrid also won their last game in the league but they are a much more unpredictable team than their opponent here. I'm expecting a draw or maybe even a Manchester United victory.
I think the difficulty in the Premier league is more compared to La Liga. Neither team is doing well in the league, but it is clear that Manchester United's opponents are more difficult than Atletico Madrid. I think Manchester United will pass this elimination and win the match. 3.10 ratio is quite high. I would like to try my luck actually.
I will go for a draw, because both team are kind of in the same level and are unpredictable,and still performing poorly in their various leagues but Manchester United seems to be the better of both, I say so not because they played better but because they have the better squad, when you have players like Edison cavani, Rashford, Sancho and Christiano Ronaldo in your attack and in midfield there is Bruno Fernandez and Paul pogba it makes you favourite.

I also think that the players on the offensive line are of very good quality. However, when you look at the results of Manchester United in the Premier League, every result can be realized in this match. Manchester United have the advantage of playing at home, but Premier League matches show that there is a Manchester United team that can lose even at home.  Atlético can surprise.

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February 28, 2022, 04:27:52 PM
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If Juventus or anyone underestimate Villarreal, it is clearly understandable. The truth is at this stage of the competition, experience comes into play. Not just experience of the players or how good they are but the pedigree of the club in such competition.
Juventus is clearly a bigger dog in European football stage than Villarreal and these things though may look insignificant but do play roles in games like this.

Italians are bad this year! I guess we can't expect much from Inter, they lost the first game, and they will probably lose once again in England... For sure Inter will not surrender, but chances for Inter to do something are very low, they need some miralce I guess to win!
I think that Villareal has a decent chance! They showed they can play against Juve and if they repeat the same game maybe we will see penalties in this game!

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February 28, 2022, 04:46:36 PM
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If Juventus or anyone underestimate Villarreal, it is clearly understandable. The truth is at this stage of the competition, experience comes into play. Not just experience of the players or how good they are but the pedigree of the club in such competition.
Juventus is clearly a bigger dog in European football stage than Villarreal and these things though may look insignificant but do play roles in games like this.

Italians are bad this year! I guess we can't expect much from Inter, they lost the first game, and they will probably lose once again in England... For sure Inter will not surrender, but chances for Inter to do something are very low, they need some miracle I guess to win!
I think that Villareal has a decent chance! They showed they can play against Juve and if they repeat the same game maybe we will see penalties in this game!
To be honest, I don't see Inter Milan getting a draw in England because the team has not been consistent in their league so far so coming to play Against Liverpool in England is fine but getting a Draw is what I don't think can happen because Liverpool is in good shape and form.
Juv against Villarreal is going to be a big game but from the look of things experience will play a vital role and I believe both sides have had good experience in the competition.

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February 28, 2022, 06:05:13 PM
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Fortunately the first leg of Man United can draw at Atletico Madrid. One goal seems to be enough as a second leg provision in England. But after they only drew in the EPL they had to continue with a tough game before playing in ucl. They will face Man City and Tottenham. It will drain their energy. Rangnick certainly has to be careful if he does not want to fail at UCL because tomorrow is the determination they have to fall or continue.
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Fortunately the first leg of Man United can draw at Atletico Madrid. One goal seems to be enough as a second leg provision in England. But after they only drew in the EPL they had to continue with a tough game before playing in ucl.
Now, there is no advantage with home-away goals so that in the second leg, Manchester United will only have a support from their fans at their home stadium which are not enough to bring them final win. If they can not improve themselves or suddenly have a better performance than what they shown recent weeks, I am sure they will not be able to beat Athletico Madrid in aggregated result.

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They will face Man City and Tottenham. It will drain their energy. Rangnick certainly has to be careful if he does not want to fail at UCL because tomorrow is the determination they have to fall or continue.
If they fail in both Premier League (top 4) and Champions League and blame on this tough mini tournament, they are wrong. It is mostly because they lost so many points in easy matches in which they should win and get as many points as possible. Points from easy matches will be helpful and can cover lost points in such tough tournament.

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February 28, 2022, 06:17:17 PM
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Fortunately the first leg of Man United can draw at Atletico Madrid. One goal seems to be enough as a second leg provision in England. But after they only drew in the EPL they had to continue with a tough game before playing in ucl. They will face Man City and Tottenham. It will drain their energy. Rangnick certainly has to be careful if he does not want to fail at UCL because tomorrow is the determination they have to fall or continue.

Horrible days await Rangnick. If they do not play well in the Premier League, in a few days they will be out of the top 4 of the table and they will lose the qualification to play in the Champions League. On the other hand, they are not able to play well in the Champions League matches. They did not play well enough against Atletico Madrid in the first leg.

The next four matches are very important for them. Their future depends on these four matches. They will play against Manchester City, Atletico Madrid, Tottenham and Liverpool. If they can score points in these three matches in the Premier League, they will probably be able to qualify for the Champions League. Moreover, the Champions League match is their home match. United may win this match too.

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February 28, 2022, 07:13:57 PM
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Fortunately the first leg of Man United can draw at Atletico Madrid. One goal seems to be enough as a second leg provision in England. But after they only drew in the EPL they had to continue with a tough game before playing in UCL. They will face Man City and Tottenham. It will drain their energy. Rangnick certainly has to be careful if he does not want to fail at UCL because tomorrow is the determination they have to fall or continue.
I agree with you on this one but Manchester United will have no excuse if they lose against ATM in Old Trafford this is because they have had experience in this competition both UCL and EPL so no amount of pressure should make them lose in England even though they will play against city and Tottenham before hosting ATM.

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February 28, 2022, 07:51:50 PM
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Juventus - Villarreal can be an interesting matchup still. Juventus are still the favourite side to me though but Villarreal are not a team that can be undervalued here. They can be a really annoying team when it comes to their defense. And their attacking line also is very good now. Considering every fact for this matchup, I still think that Juventus won't be eliminating them too easily. Villarreal would do their best and keep them busy. And the most important point that they should watch out for is not letting Juventus score first. If Juventus score first, Villarreal's job will be too hard.

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