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December 10, 2019, 07:58:28 PM
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Does anyone bets on Ranji Trophy matches too? I think they are too boring and unpopular to bet on? But would love to know from anyone about how they place their bets in such matches and what are their strategies because I think most of the players are unknown and quite inconsistent too.
I am sure there are betting lines for Ranji trophy matches, you could see betting lines for private cricket tournament in major sports book and if you see those betting lines then it will be a surprise if Ranji matches does not have betting lines. I have not placed a bet in these tournaments but serious gamblers will be looking at these tournaments to make money as it is easily to manipulate these matches than international matches .
Actually my doubt is because of such a long format of the game. Moreover the rule of first innings lead gets the more point also sucks a little to me. That is why I think gambling might not be as popular in Ranji.
Does anyone bets on Ranji Trophy matches too? I think they are too boring and unpopular to bet on? But would love to know from anyone about how they place their bets in such matches and what are their strategies because I think most of the players are unknown and quite inconsistent too.
I am sure there are betting lines for Ranji trophy matches, you could see betting lines for private cricket tournament in major sports book and if you see those betting lines then it will be a surprise if Ranji matches does not have betting lines. I have not placed a bet in these tournaments but serious gamblers will be looking at these tournaments to make money as it is easily to manipulate these matches than international matches .

I completely agree with what you said. Right now there is a lot of controversy surrounding a match fixing scandal involving the Karnataka Premier League (KPL). Some of the players have been arrested (Nishanth Singh Shekhawat, CM Gautam and Abrar Kazi) for match fixing and many more are being investigated. These players are very vulnerable, as their salaries are really low.
Actually KPL is in T20 format which also attracts a lot of glamour with it which is why it's obvious such things happen in early stages. It even used to happen during initial few IPL when players like Sreesanth were found doing such things what can you expect from KPL.
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December 10, 2019, 09:01:07 PM
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Right now there is a lot of controversy surrounding a match fixing scandal involving the Karnataka Premier League (KPL). Some of the players have been arrested (Nishanth Singh Shekhawat, CM Gautam and Abrar Kazi) for match fixing and many more are being investigated. These players are very vulnerable, as their salaries are really low.
I was not aware about the match fixing scandal in KPL, the reason i said about small tournaments being vulnerable is because big time gamblers who are wagging millions of dollars could easily manipulate these small tournaments because the fixing issue was prominent in the international matches during the early 2000 and if they are able to do that why not manipulate the small tournaments.

Tomorrow we have the first test between Pakistan and Srilanka, i have no idea how both these team will perform, any prediction for the match.
These small leagues are nursery for many bookies as they try to contact with players and then give them some good attraction but still as authorities taking action hopefully many will get away from these leagues and try to fix problems which are helping these none stakers.
About Pakistan vs Sri Lanka I can say most chances this match will end in draw as weather is also not good enough and hardly they will be able to do 80 overs in a day and pitch is also helpful for batting side toss could be very cruicial for both teams as winner will try to take advantage with first bowling.
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December 11, 2019, 02:31:30 AM
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Actually KPL is in T20 format which also attracts a lot of glamour with it which is why it's obvious such things happen in early stages. It even used to happen during initial few IPL when players like Sreesanth were found doing such things what can you expect from KPL.

Sreesanth was acquitted by the court, as it found that the charges against him were cooked up. Rather than a case of match fixing, it was a case of personal vendetta. I am not sure, but Sreesanth had claimed that it was Dinesh Karthik who got him framed during the IPL scandal. I won't be surprised if it is true, because some of the TN players (Karthik, Vijay, Ashwin.etc) are known to be very close to the former ICC chief N Srinivasan. Anyway, his career is finished now as he is still serving a ban (for an offense for which he was acquitted many years ago).

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December 11, 2019, 02:45:26 AM
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Actually KPL is in T20 format which also attracts a lot of glamour with it which is why it's obvious such things happen in early stages. It even used to happen during initial few IPL when players like Sreesanth were found doing such things what can you expect from KPL.

Sreesanth was acquitted by the court, as it found that the charges against him were cooked up. Rather than a case of match fixing, it was a case of personal vendetta. I am not sure, but Sreesanth had claimed that it was Dinesh Karthik who got him framed during the IPL scandal. I won't be surprised if it is true, because some of the TN players (Karthik, Vijay, Ashwin.etc) are known to be very close to the former ICC chief N Srinivasan. Anyway, his career is finished now as he is still serving a ban (for an offense for which he was acquitted many years ago).
Yes, Indian cricket has lot of political play. After a long Sreesanth is the player who got opportunity in ODI from Kerala. This was celebrated big, and to the expectations he performed well. Further without anything done BCCI won't suspend even though players like Dinesh Karthick, Ashwin are close to the ICC chief N Srinivasan. Every state representative need to be answered when a player from their state gets suspension. Now his cricket carrier has come to an end and he has entered politics.

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December 11, 2019, 05:29:38 AM
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So... first test match in Pakistan after a whole decade? I hope it goes fine. Roll Eyes
So the last tour of Sri Lanka was for ODI and T20 and now the first Test after a long time, Sri Lanka won the toss and elected to bat and i see all their players in this tournament and hopefully the series will be a good one as both teams are not in great form but i am hoping Pakistan to do better in Test matches and Sri Lanka usually performs well once in a full moon as we saw against South Africa so we cannot under estimate the Sri Lankan team too and they won the last series in Pakistan, so it is a huge challenge for Pakistan.
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So... first test match in Pakistan after a whole decade? I hope it goes fine. Roll Eyes
So the last tour of Sri Lanka was for ODI and T20 and now the first Test after a long time, Sri Lanka won the toss and elected to bat and i see all their players in this tournament and hopefully the series will be a good one as both teams are not in great form but i am hoping Pakistan to do better in Test matches and Sri Lanka usually performs well once in a full moon as we saw against South Africa so we cannot under estimate the Sri Lankan team too and they won the last series in Pakistan, so it is a huge challenge for Pakistan.

Yes, mate you are right both teams, not in good form but the sir Lankan team has good performing players better than Pakistan it will help to sir Lankan team to give good performance in this test match and now sir Lankan team got a good start they are scored 71 runs in 23.2 overs without a wicket to lose.

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December 11, 2019, 06:38:55 AM
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So... first test match in Pakistan after a whole decade? I hope it goes fine. Roll Eyes
So the last tour of Sri Lanka was for ODI and T20 and now the first Test after a long time, Sri Lanka won the toss and elected to bat and i see all their players in this tournament and hopefully the series will be a good one as both teams are not in great form but i am hoping Pakistan to do better in Test matches and Sri Lanka usually performs well once in a full moon as we saw against South Africa so we cannot under estimate the Sri Lankan team too and they won the last series in Pakistan, so it is a huge challenge for Pakistan.

Well i think "Full moon" coming out for Srilanka today . they are doing good as of now, 23 overs and 75 runs for opening partnership. Dimuth Karunaratne getting big share of runs in this partnership, its seems to be a good wicket for batting and we can hope its 5 day match.  Grin

Yes, mate you are right both teams, not in good form but the sir Lankan team has good performing players better than Pakistan it will help to sir Lankan team to give good performance in this test match and now sir Lankan team got a good start they are scored 71 runs in 23.2 overs without a wicket to lose.

Okay you are quick Grin

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December 11, 2019, 08:04:10 AM
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Actually my doubt is because of such a long format of the game. Moreover the rule of first innings lead gets the more point also sucks a little to me. That is why I think gambling might not be as popular in Ranji.
I am not saying Ranji trophy is popular among cricket fans but serious gamblers will take it as an opportunity to manipulate the matches are there are not much eyes following the matches, not sure whether spot fixing can be done in Ranji matches but the bookies with big money will always find opportunities considering the history of match fixing in India.

Actually KPL is in T20 format which also attracts a lot of glamour with it which is why it's obvious such things happen in early stages. It even used to happen during initial few IPL when players like Sreesanth were found doing such things what can you expect from KPL.
The bookies will try to manipulate tournaments which are not having too much media attention, you can see fixing in majority of the club matches and as a normal viewer you might not understand these things but there are big bookies who have complete over certain club matches.

Sri Lanka got a really good start and hopefully they will score a huge first innings score and hopefully we will see more partnership, i hate seeing the match going to a draw but i want to see drama in the final two days Cheesy.
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December 11, 2019, 09:15:28 AM
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Sri Lanka got a really good start and hopefully they will score a huge first innings score and hopefully we will see more partnership, i hate seeing the match going to a draw but i want to see drama in the final two days Cheesy.


At one time Sri lanka was dominating the game but after first wicket of Karunaratne they lost 3 quick wickets against the seam (96/1 and now 129/4). Guess no big lead for them.  Grin

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December 11, 2019, 09:17:00 AM
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Srilankans are in trouble 129/4, Pakistan have bounced back hard in the second session picking up four wickets. Now SL have to find a solid parternship from this point. If Angelo Mathews and de Silva are gone, then I believe, Pak will win this match.
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Srilankans are in trouble 129/4, Pakistan have bounced back hard in the second session picking up four wickets. Now SL have to find a solid parternship from this point. If Angelo Mathews and de Silva are gone, then I believe, Pak will win this match.
Its still Day 1 on this test match so we can't come into any conclusions with that 4 wickets down. Smiley

One good partnership on any innings can change the game into their side,so Angelo Mathew and de Silva have to stay longer at the crease as much as they can then the runs will flow into their side.
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Sri Lanka had a good start but then they started loosing wickets and Pakistan were able to have an upper hand right now and Mathews is the player they have to target as he is the only dangerous player Sri Lanka have right now and if they are able to pick his wicket then Pakistan will have a peace of mind that they will not score a huge target as they do not have the batsman to score big runs and their main player will be Babar Azam.
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December 11, 2019, 12:28:30 PM
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Sri Lanka had a good start but then they started loosing wickets and Pakistan were able to have an upper hand right now and Mathews is the player they have to target as he is the only dangerous player Sri Lanka have right now and if they are able to pick his wicket then Pakistan will have a peace of mind that they will not score a huge target as they do not have the batsman to score big runs and their main player will be Babar Azam.
First day and just 68 overs look like its very poor management by PCB as they now its very short day so they have to start some early but they are not able to do any thing first session belong to Sri Lanka and second session belong to Pakistan now if Pakistan able to have quick wickets then they can do some good otherwise I am feeling its a draw match because we have going to short nearly one day.
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December 11, 2019, 01:59:12 PM
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Srilankans are in trouble 129/4, Pakistan have bounced back hard in the second session picking up four wickets. Now SL have to find a solid parternship from this point. If Angelo Mathews and de Silva are gone, then I believe, Pak will win this match.

It is a home match for Pakistan, and yet they have refrained from making the pitch pace-friendly. Their pace bowlers were struggling (especially Shaheen Shah Afridi and Naseem Shah). But to their credit, they prevented the Sri Lankan batsmen from building big partnerships and the Lankans were unable to convert 40s and 50s to three digit scores. But there is big question about rain. We can expect rain interruptions for the next 2-3 days at Rawalpindi. 
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Srilankans are in trouble 129/4, Pakistan have bounced back hard in the second session picking up four wickets. Now SL have to find a solid parternship from this point. If Angelo Mathews and de Silva are gone, then I believe, Pak will win this match.

It is a home match for Pakistan, and yet they have refrained from making the pitch pace-friendly. Their pace bowlers were struggling (especially Shaheen Shah Afridi and Naseem Shah). But to their credit, they prevented the Sri Lankan batsmen from building big partnerships and the Lankans were unable to convert 40s and 50s to three digit scores. But there is big question about rain. We can expect rain interruptions for the next 2-3 days at Rawalpindi. 

If its not a seaming wicket then why did they included 4 pacers and left out the spinner Yasir Shah.

If it rains, followed by draw. it raises another point as well, If you look at scorecard then you might notice that Pakistan only bowled 68 overs (Slow over rate), only 2 overs from two different part timers, in the end Stumps due to bad lights. It appears to me that many teams are not taking slow over rate seriously. India and SA both were doing same couple of months back.

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December 11, 2019, 04:19:27 PM
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Sri Lanka had a good start but then they started loosing wickets and Pakistan were able to have an upper hand right now and Mathews is the player they have to target as he is the only dangerous player Sri Lanka have right now and if they are able to pick his wicket then Pakistan will have a peace of mind that they will not score a huge target as they do not have the batsman to score big runs and their main player will be Babar Azam.

Everything is not lost for Srilanka and the match is still in a balanced position. If the srilanka tail enders can score 100 more runs which will give them a total around 320- 350 will be a challenging for Pakistan who are struggling a lot. I still see srilanka will dominate the match because Pakistan will make blunders in batting as usual.
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December 11, 2019, 07:37:30 PM
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If its not a seaming wicket then why did they included 4 pacers and left out the spinner Yasir Shah.

There are actually a number of questions. Why 4 pacers and no good spinner on a wicket which is supposed to help the spinners? Why still no Fawad Alam after all the centuries he has scored in the domestic? Since Misbah came, there seems to be a hell lot of interference of politics as well as stupidity.
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December 11, 2019, 07:47:40 PM
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If its not a seaming wicket then why did they included 4 pacers and left out the spinner Yasir Shah.

There are actually a number of questions. Why 4 pacers and no good spinner on a wicket which is supposed to help the spinners? Why still no Fawad Alam after all the centuries he has scored in the domestic? Since Misbah came, there seems to be a hell lot of interference of politics as well as stupidity.
These are real questions to ask but sadly no one can give good answers as most of peoples are not working on merit and PCB is worst authority in cricket world as they never do any home work when they need yasir shah he is not in least eleven and when they need four pace bowlers then yasir shah doing for them in worst situation peoples are not coming in stadium even they are crying its free entry shame on them.
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December 12, 2019, 02:03:58 AM
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If its not a seaming wicket then why did they included 4 pacers and left out the spinner Yasir Shah.

There are actually a number of questions. Why 4 pacers and no good spinner on a wicket which is supposed to help the spinners? Why still no Fawad Alam after all the centuries he has scored in the domestic? Since Misbah came, there seems to be a hell lot of interference of politics as well as stupidity.

Sri Lanka is struggling at 202/5 and it will be difficult for them to get to a score in excess of 300. So I have to say that the Pakistani strategy worked, since in a sub-continent track they are restricting the opponents to less than 300. Yasir Shah is a promising bowler and in case the current bunch of bowlers are unable to do their job, then he'll get a chance to play during the second test.

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