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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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November 26, 2023, 10:55:34 AM
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Game 1 produced a surprising result as Meralco defeated TNT by a double-digit margin. Despite RHJ scoring 47 points, it wasn't enough to secure a win. The usual contributor, Oftana, was limited to just 4 points with a 2-11 shooting performance. Relying solely on RHJ won't guarantee victories for TNT; while he is capable, he'll tire quickly if he continues to carry the team. In their next game, they need to ensure that local players contribute to effect an overall team improvement.

Meanwhile, the 2nd game is live, with Bossing and Ginebra playing. It seems to follow a similar pattern to the previous game where Ginebra typically struggles with a slow start.

Ginebra is making a steady comeback in the second quarter, although Blackwater maintains its lead in the game. I anticipate that Ginebra will narrow the gap to a single-digit margin by the end of the first half.

Checking on the betting odds, Ginebra is still the favored team with a -3.5 spread at 1.90. Therefore, I believe this is a favorable line to consider if you are confident in their comeback potential, considering there is ample time left in the game.

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November 26, 2023, 11:09:53 AM
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Game 1 produced a surprising result as Meralco defeated TNT by a double-digit margin. Despite RHJ scoring 47 points, it wasn't enough to secure a win. The usual contributor, Oftana, was limited to just 4 points with a 2-11 shooting performance. Relying solely on RHJ won't guarantee victories for TNT; while he is capable, he'll tire quickly if he continues to carry the team. In their next game, they need to ensure that local players contribute to effect an overall team improvement.

Meanwhile, the 2nd game is live, with Bossing and Ginebra playing. It seems to follow a similar pattern to the previous game where Ginebra typically struggles with a slow start.

Ginebra is making a steady comeback in the second quarter, although Blackwater maintains its lead in the game. I anticipate that Ginebra will narrow the gap to a single-digit margin by the end of the first half.

Checking on the betting odds, Ginebra is still the favored team with a -3.5 spread at 1.90. Therefore, I believe this is a favorable line to consider if you are confident in their comeback potential, considering there is ample time left in the game.

Checking the score almost at the end of the 1st half and Blackwater still leading by 9 points, it can be a good timing for Gin kings backer taking that handicap might give them some decent win if by chance they will rally back during the 2nd half and win this game, though we all know that PBA can also ends up with a dissapointing outcome, "Silatan"  not sure if Gin kings fans will buy that possibilities.

Well good luck mga kabayan if ever you will place a bet while waiting for the 2nd half!

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November 26, 2023, 11:14:21 AM
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Game 1 produced a surprising result as Meralco defeated TNT by a double-digit margin. Despite RHJ scoring 47 points, it wasn't enough to secure a win. The usual contributor, Oftana, was limited to just 4 points with a 2-11 shooting performance. Relying solely on RHJ won't guarantee victories for TNT; while he is capable, he'll tire quickly if he continues to carry the team. In their next game, they need to ensure that local players contribute to effect an overall team improvement.

Meanwhile, the 2nd game is live, with Bossing and Ginebra playing. It seems to follow a similar pattern to the previous game where Ginebra typically struggles with a slow start.

Ginebra is making a steady comeback in the second quarter, although Blackwater maintains its lead in the game. I anticipate that Ginebra will narrow the gap to a single-digit margin by the end of the first half.

Checking on the betting odds, Ginebra is still the favored team with a -3.5 spread at 1.90. Therefore, I believe this is a favorable line to consider if you are confident in their comeback potential, considering there is ample time left in the game.

Checking the score almost at the end of the 1st half and Blackwater still leading by 9 points, it can be a good timing for Gin kings backer taking that handicap might give them some decent win if by chance they will rally back during the 2nd half and win this game, though we all know that PBA can also ends up with a dissapointing outcome, "Silatan"  not sure if Gin kings fans will buy that possibilities.

Well good luck mga kabayan if ever you will place a bet while waiting for the 2nd half!

Ginebra outscored Blackwater by 8 points in the 2nd quarter, reducing Blackwater's lead to only 9 points. With two quarters remaining, if we believe in Ginebra's potential to win, the current spread of -2.5 in live betting seems quite tempting. Alternatively, for those seeking more action, considering Ginebra -6.5 in the 3rd quarter alone could be an interesting option.

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November 26, 2023, 11:28:49 AM
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Alternatively, for those seeking more action, considering Ginebra -6.5 in the 3rd quarter alone could be an interesting option.

The spread doesn't seem enticing to me. If Ginebra is to win this game, -2.5 is more likely to be covered than -6.5 within just one quarter. If we really believe they'll dominate in the 3rd, then -6.5 might be a reasonable choice, but personally, I find it to be a substantial risk. The third quarter is about to start, so it's advisable to place a bet now or risk missing the opportunity. Currently, the local players aren't contributing as usual, but let's observe how they perform in the second half.

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November 26, 2023, 11:55:47 AM
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Alternatively, for those seeking more action, considering Ginebra -6.5 in the 3rd quarter alone could be an interesting option.

Do you think this paid off, right?

Ginebra won the 3rd quarter with a score of 30-19, so the -6.5 spread bet was successful. Congratulations to the bettors who had the confidence to take it, despite it being a high spread.

Now, we are in the 4th quarter. Let's see if Ginebra can sustain their momentum. Covering the -2.5 shouldn't be difficult now, unless they get tired due to their significant run in the 3rd.



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November 26, 2023, 12:30:30 PM
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Game 1 produced a surprising result as Meralco defeated TNT by a double-digit margin. Despite RHJ scoring 47 points, it wasn't enough to secure a win. The usual contributor, Oftana, was limited to just 4 points with a 2-11 shooting performance. Relying solely on RHJ won't guarantee victories for TNT; while he is capable, he'll tire quickly if he continues to carry the team. In their next game, they need to ensure that local players contribute to effect an overall team improvement.

Meanwhile, the 2nd game is live, with Bossing and Ginebra playing. It seems to follow a similar pattern to the previous game where Ginebra typically struggles with a slow start.

Ginebra is making a steady comeback in the second quarter, although Blackwater maintains its lead in the game. I anticipate that Ginebra will narrow the gap to a single-digit margin by the end of the first half.

Checking on the betting odds, Ginebra is still the favored team with a -3.5 spread at 1.90. Therefore, I believe this is a favorable line to consider if you are confident in their comeback potential, considering there is ample time left in the game.

Checking the score almost at the end of the 1st half and Blackwater still leading by 9 points, it can be a good timing for Gin kings backer taking that handicap might give them some decent win if by chance they will rally back during the 2nd half and win this game, though we all know that PBA can also ends up with a dissapointing outcome, "Silatan"  not sure if Gin kings fans will buy that possibilities.

Well good luck mga kabayan if ever you will place a bet while waiting for the 2nd half!

Ginebra managed to secure a win, but unfortunately, my bet was lost as they only won by 3 points. If the game had gone to overtime, there might have been a good chance, but the last sequence seemed like a bad play, with Ortiz throwing the ball early despite the difficulty of the shot. I believe the pregame spread didn't cover, and the live betting didn't fare well either. However, one of the members here posted a -2.5 spread, so anyone who took it is lucky, as it turned out to be a winning bet.

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November 26, 2023, 01:24:31 PM
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Game 1 produced a surprising result as Meralco defeated TNT by a double-digit margin. Despite RHJ scoring 47 points, it wasn't enough to secure a win. The usual contributor, Oftana, was limited to just 4 points with a 2-11 shooting performance. Relying solely on RHJ won't guarantee victories for TNT; while he is capable, he'll tire quickly if he continues to carry the team. In their next game, they need to ensure that local players contribute to effect an overall team improvement.

Meanwhile, the 2nd game is live, with Bossing and Ginebra playing. It seems to follow a similar pattern to the previous game where Ginebra typically struggles with a slow start.

Ginebra is making a steady comeback in the second quarter, although Blackwater maintains its lead in the game. I anticipate that Ginebra will narrow the gap to a single-digit margin by the end of the first half.

Checking on the betting odds, Ginebra is still the favored team with a -3.5 spread at 1.90. Therefore, I believe this is a favorable line to consider if you are confident in their comeback potential, considering there is ample time left in the game.

Checking the score almost at the end of the 1st half and Blackwater still leading by 9 points, it can be a good timing for Gin kings backer taking that handicap might give them some decent win if by chance they will rally back during the 2nd half and win this game, though we all know that PBA can also ends up with a dissapointing outcome, "Silatan"  not sure if Gin kings fans will buy that possibilities.

Well good luck mga kabayan if ever you will place a bet while waiting for the 2nd half!

Ginebra outscored Blackwater by 8 points in the 2nd quarter, reducing Blackwater's lead to only 9 points. With two quarters remaining, if we believe in Ginebra's potential to win, the current spread of -2.5 in live betting seems quite tempting. Alternatively, for those seeking more action, considering Ginebra -6.5 in the 3rd quarter alone could be an interesting option.

If you take both bets for sure you've got a nice TGIS! Hahaha, the Gin Kings outscored Blackwater during the 3rd quarter and won the game, covering that -2.5 everything went smoothly and really gave fans an entertainment that bettors may enjoy while watching what's happening during the live game.

More on covering the handicap for live bettors, but those who pick things earlier a single point miss they lose their money.

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November 27, 2023, 03:08:21 AM
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covering that -2.5 everything went smoothly and really gave fans an entertainment that bettors may enjoy while watching what's happening during the live game.


I'm sure many bettors are disappointed with the result, as they expected Ginebra to win by more than 3 points. The wise bettors who saw the opportunity might be content, but Ginebra barely covered the spread. It's hard to believe the way they are playing now; they are so unpredictable. I can't help but miss the old Ginebra Kings who could easily dominate their opponents. It seems like their current import doesn't bring the same energy that Brownlee brought to the team.

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November 27, 2023, 04:15:22 AM
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covering that -2.5 everything went smoothly and really gave fans an entertainment that bettors may enjoy while watching what's happening during the live game.


I'm sure many bettors are disappointed with the result, as they expected Ginebra to win by more than 3 points. The wise bettors who saw the opportunity might be content, but Ginebra barely covered the spread. It's hard to believe the way they are playing now; they are so unpredictable. I can't help but miss the old Ginebra Kings who could easily dominate their opponents. It seems like their current import doesn't bring the same energy that Brownlee brought to the team.

Same here, just can't imagine how Bossing managed to keep that distance knowing Gin kings dominance, though they outscored Bossing during the 3rd quarter I think those who bet early think that it will possibly cover the handicap but surprisingly see the Gin Kings stop that rally and just maintain whatever the lead to secure the win.

Personally, I also think that Bossing will let it go and will lose with huge margins, but we will see what just happened and nothing can be done about it but to move forward and try to check the next games to bet on.

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November 27, 2023, 04:50:03 AM
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covering that -2.5 everything went smoothly and really gave fans an entertainment that bettors may enjoy while watching what's happening during the live game.


I'm sure many bettors are disappointed with the result, as they expected Ginebra to win by more than 3 points. The wise bettors who saw the opportunity might be content, but Ginebra barely covered the spread. It's hard to believe the way they are playing now; they are so unpredictable. I can't help but miss the old Ginebra Kings who could easily dominate their opponents. It seems like their current import doesn't bring the same energy that Brownlee brought to the team.

Same here, just can't imagine how Bossing managed to keep that distance knowing Gin kings dominance, though they outscored Bossing during the 3rd quarter I think those who bet early think that it will possibly cover the handicap but surprisingly see the Gin Kings stop that rally and just maintain whatever the lead to secure the win.

Personally, I also think that Bossing will let it go and will lose with huge margins, but we will see what just happened and nothing can be done about it but to move forward and try to check the next games to bet on.

I find it hard to trust the Gin Kings to cover the spread, given their consistent status as heavy favorites in most of their games. Their reputation and the immense fan support make them a popular choice for many bettors, leading to blind bets on Ginebra without proper consideration of statistics against the spread (ATS). This trend makes it quite easy for bookies to set up lines that trap the public into betting on them.



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November 27, 2023, 07:53:29 AM
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I find it hard to trust the Gin Kings to cover the spread, given their consistent status as heavy favorites in most of their games. Their reputation and the immense fan support make them a popular choice for many bettors, leading to blind bets on Ginebra without proper consideration of statistics against the spread (ATS). This trend makes it quite easy for bookies to set up lines that trap the public into betting on them.
Depending on the betting spread, it's possible. For instance, if the spread is around -3.5 (the highest), I think they're likely to cover it. The problem arises at times when they face a weaker team; they don't play with the same intensity they exhibit against tougher opponents. I'm not sure about the reasons behind it, but it's just my observation. That's why when a popular team is favored to win with the spread, I believe most bettors will automatically side with the popular team and take its spread without hesitation.
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November 27, 2023, 11:14:06 AM
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I find it hard to trust the Gin Kings to cover the spread, given their consistent status as heavy favorites in most of their games. Their reputation and the immense fan support make them a popular choice for many bettors, leading to blind bets on Ginebra without proper consideration of statistics against the spread (ATS). This trend makes it quite easy for bookies to set up lines that trap the public into betting on them.

This is the second time that they did not cover the spread as they lost on their first game and with that i could say that in the next Ginebra game, we better bet on the opponent with that high spread as bookies normally give that to us.

Bishop is unpredictable/inconsistent on his game unlike Brownlee when he's got an off-night, he will facilitate so his teammates will do the job.

Ginebra's next game will be on December 3, a Sunday against DYIP, so we expect high spread again as DYIP is a lowly opponent and might be a trap for all of us bettors  Smiley.
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November 27, 2023, 11:19:39 AM
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I find it hard to trust the Gin Kings to cover the spread, given their consistent status as heavy favorites in most of their games. Their reputation and the immense fan support make them a popular choice for many bettors, leading to blind bets on Ginebra without proper consideration of statistics against the spread (ATS). This trend makes it quite easy for bookies to set up lines that trap the public into betting on them.

This is the second time that they did not cover the spread as they lost on their first game and with that i could say that in the next Ginebra game, we better bet on the opponent with that high spread as bookies normally give that to us.

Bishop is unpredictable/inconsistent on his game unlike Brownlee when he's got an off-night, he will facilitate so his teammates will do the job.

Ginebra's next game will be on December 3, a Sunday against DYIP, so we expect high spread again as DYIP is a lowly opponent and might be a trap for all of us bettors  Smiley.

Cool early heads-up! Yeah, the spread's probably gonna be pretty wide since DYIP is kinda like the farm team for Blackwater. I'm thinking Ginebra might be at least -7.5, giving us some wiggle room to tweak our handicap for juicier odds, maybe +6.5 or +5.5. Checking out Bishop's stats, it's clear he's a solid import, but what's lacking is the impact on the team. Brownlee has this ability for elevating his teammates, and Bishop hasn't quite pulled that off yet.

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November 27, 2023, 11:33:06 AM
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Brownlee has this ability for elevating his teammates, and Bishop hasn't quite pulled that off yet.

Totally, we've witnessed this not just in the PBA but also in international competitions. Brownlee taking us to gold in the Asian Games speaks volumes about his import skills. You can even check out JC versus JB as naturalized players, and even though JC's got that NBA status, there's no denying JB's impact in making his teammates shine.

But come on guys, let's rest the name of JB for now, he deserve some rest, and let's just focus on how the current import will do which was reported he'll be choose as a regular import for the team.

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November 27, 2023, 12:03:54 PM
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Brownlee has this ability for elevating his teammates, and Bishop hasn't quite pulled that off yet.

Totally, we've witnessed this not just in the PBA but also in international competitions. Brownlee taking us to gold in the Asian Games speaks volumes about his import skills. You can even check out JC versus JB as naturalized players, and even though JC's got that NBA status, there's no denying JB's impact in making his teammates shine.

But come on guys, let's rest the name of JB for now, he deserve some rest, and let's just focus on how the current import will do which was reported he'll be choose as a regular import for the team.

Nothing to argue about JB's capabilities as we all witness that not only with his PBA team but also with the Nationals, he play the game in an all-around position and the rest is history, let's give him that rest he deserves and just focus with how the team performs, though it seems that for those fans who also involves with gambling, it's really tough to predict but if you are good with ML just put your stake and wait for the outcome, chances of winning is better than covering or taking the handicap.. Just for my own take!

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November 27, 2023, 01:22:25 PM
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Brownlee has this ability for elevating his teammates, and Bishop hasn't quite pulled that off yet.

Totally, we've witnessed this not just in the PBA but also in international competitions. Brownlee taking us to gold in the Asian Games speaks volumes about his import skills. You can even check out JC versus JB as naturalized players, and even though JC's got that NBA status, there's no denying JB's impact in making his teammates shine.

But come on guys, let's rest the name of JB for now, he deserve some rest, and let's just focus on how the current import will do which was reported he'll be choose as a regular import for the team.

Nothing to argue about JB's capabilities as we all witness that not only with his PBA team but also with the Nationals, he play the game in an all-around position and the rest is history, let's give him that rest he deserves and just focus with how the team performs, though it seems that for those fans who also involves with gambling, it's really tough to predict but if you are good with ML just put your stake and wait for the outcome, chances of winning is better than covering or taking the handicap.. Just for my own take!

You need to have the courage to bet on ML as Ginebra is actually winning; they just have some problems with closing out games. I think the most consistent team currently is the Magnolia Hotshots. They are good at covering the spread, especially against a team that is at the bottom in terms of standing. As we all know, it was Magnolia that gave Ginebra their first and only loss in the season, but that was a controversial one due to an obvious  non-call foul.

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November 28, 2023, 03:15:46 PM
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Brownlee has this ability for elevating his teammates, and Bishop hasn't quite pulled that off yet.

Totally, we've witnessed this not just in the PBA but also in international competitions. Brownlee taking us to gold in the Asian Games speaks volumes about his import skills. You can even check out JC versus JB as naturalized players, and even though JC's got that NBA status, there's no denying JB's impact in making his teammates shine.

But come on guys, let's rest the name of JB for now, he deserve some rest, and let's just focus on how the current import will do which was reported he'll be choose as a regular import for the team.

Nothing to argue about JB's capabilities as we all witness that not only with his PBA team but also with the Nationals, he play the game in an all-around position and the rest is history, let's give him that rest he deserves and just focus with how the team performs, though it seems that for those fans who also involves with gambling, it's really tough to predict but if you are good with ML just put your stake and wait for the outcome, chances of winning is better than covering or taking the handicap.. Just for my own take!

You need to have the courage to bet on ML as Ginebra is actually winning; they just have some problems with closing out games. I think the most consistent team currently is the Magnolia Hotshots. They are good at covering the spread, especially against a team that is at the bottom in terms of standing. As we all know, it was Magnolia that gave Ginebra their first and only loss in the season, but that was a controversial one due to an obvious  non-call foul.
Yes you are right that mate ginebra it has only 1 loss and that loss came from the current number and leading team which is magnolia. But anyways still the performance of the barangay teams is very good as of now and what we saw from thier play against blackwater which is in the early quarter blackwater is leading but in the second half until the fourth quarter ginebra give their best to win the match. Without Justin brownlee has a huge impact for the team but our local do thier Best Tobe the best in this session.

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November 29, 2023, 05:46:43 AM
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Let's get ready for the games today.   Smiley

First game will start at 4:00 PM
DYIP vs Phoenix,

2nd game at 8:00 PM
SMB vs Rain or Shine.

Bettors come alive now as the odds are already available and I'm sharing my picks also in case you want to follow (or fade???) Grin

Phoenix 1.41 and over 216.5

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November 29, 2023, 11:18:37 AM
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Bettors come alive now as the odds are already available and I'm sharing my picks also in case you want to follow (or fade???) Grin

Phoenix 1.41 and over 216.5
Congrats on the Phoenix win but sorry for the over as it went under. You should have bet on the Phoenix spread as they have won the game by a good margin, more than enough to cover the spread.


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As for this game, the odds are now out and SMB is the heavy favorite with -9, I think  ROS will try to steal a win here, or if that would not happen, at least they'll play better making sure they'll cover the handicap.

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November 29, 2023, 12:37:07 PM
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Brownlee has this ability for elevating his teammates, and Bishop hasn't quite pulled that off yet.

Totally, we've witnessed this not just in the PBA but also in international competitions. Brownlee taking us to gold in the Asian Games speaks volumes about his import skills. You can even check out JC versus JB as naturalized players, and even though JC's got that NBA status, there's no denying JB's impact in making his teammates shine.

But come on guys, let's rest the name of JB for now, he deserve some rest, and let's just focus on how the current import will do which was reported he'll be choose as a regular import for the team.

Nothing to argue about JB's capabilities as we all witness that not only with his PBA team but also with the Nationals, he play the game in an all-around position and the rest is history, let's give him that rest he deserves and just focus with how the team performs, though it seems that for those fans who also involves with gambling, it's really tough to predict but if you are good with ML just put your stake and wait for the outcome, chances of winning is better than covering or taking the handicap.. Just for my own take!

You need to have the courage to bet on ML as Ginebra is actually winning; they just have some problems with closing out games. I think the most consistent team currently is the Magnolia Hotshots. They are good at covering the spread, especially against a team that is at the bottom in terms of standing. As we all know, it was Magnolia that gave Ginebra their first and only loss in the season, but that was a controversial one due to an obvious  non-call foul.

Not easy to forget kabayan that's a huge double digit lead from start up to the 3rd quarter then Gin kings lose that big lead and allow magolia to snatch the game from them, though it's controversial but the problem in keeping their big leads is something that not usual for them especially it's coach Tim who's mentoring them, not sure what's the problem but in my personal opinion it's more on the chemistry which still adjustable and still easy to make certain adjustments,.

Agree that they are still winning and that for sure is important, once they find that blends again it will be easier for them to continue that winning attitude.

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