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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 16 (45.7%)
SMB - 7 (20%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 5 (14.3%)
Talk and Text - 6 (17.1%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (2.9%)
Total Voters: 35

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December 08, 2023, 08:00:05 AM
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Gin kings and SMB are also doing great, though there are some struggles from the Brgy, but they still manage to win games.

Speaking of the Gin Kings and the Beermen, both have games tonight with Ginebra facing the Phoenix Fuel Masters while SMB Beermen will duel it out with NorthPort Batang Pier.

Ginebra Kings failed to cover the spread on their four consecutive games but i think this time around they will cover that thin spread.



^^ my bet for the first game but will also bet for the second game depending on the outcome of the first but i'm more inclined to bet for the Batang Pier as Fajardo's absence has a big impact on the team.

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December 08, 2023, 08:35:20 AM
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Gin kings and SMB are also doing great, though there are some struggles from the Brgy, but they still manage to win games.

Speaking of the Gin Kings and the Beermen, both have games tonight with Ginebra facing the Phoenix Fuel Masters while SMB Beermen will duel it out with NorthPort Batang Pier.

Ginebra Kings failed to cover the spread on their four consecutive games but i think this time around they will cover that thin spread.



^^ my bet for the first game but will also bet for the second game depending on the outcome of the first but i'm more inclined to bet for the Batang Pier as Fajardo's absence has a big impact on the team.

You might have bet early on the Ginebra San Miguel as they will not play today but tomorrow.

We only have two games today,

1s game - NLEX vs ROS (Currently playing now)
2nd game - SMB vs Northport.

I haven't made a decision yet regarding the 2nd game, but on the first game I had over 216.5 since I believe NLEX will shoot better as they badly need a win here. 2 straight losses with the new import, they need to stop that.

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December 08, 2023, 08:39:57 AM
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Gin kings and SMB are also doing great, though there are some struggles from the Brgy, but they still manage to win games.

Speaking of the Gin Kings and the Beermen, both have games tonight with Ginebra facing the Phoenix Fuel Masters while SMB Beermen will duel it out with NorthPort Batang Pier.

Ginebra Kings failed to cover the spread on their four consecutive games but i think this time around they will cover that thin spread.



^^ my bet for the first game but will also bet for the second game depending on the outcome of the first but i'm more inclined to bet for the Batang Pier as Fajardo's absence has a big impact on the team.

You might have bet early on the Ginebra San Miguel as they will not play today but tomorrow.

We only have two games today,

1s game - NLEX vs ROS (Currently playing now)
2nd game - SMB vs Northport.

I haven't made a decision yet regarding the 2nd game, but on the first game I had over 216.5 since I believe NLEX will shoot better as they badly need a win here. 2 straight losses with the new import, they need to stop that.

Thanks for the heads up kabayan, i just really thought that the game will be held today because they were what was shown in our local bookies. If that is the case then, our local bookies has not covered the game between NLEX and ROS as i have not seen the odds in the local bookies. My bad, thanks again kabayan.

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December 08, 2023, 09:29:36 AM
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but on the first game I had over 216.5 since I believe NLEX will shoot better as they badly need a win here. 2 straight losses with the new import, they need to stop that.

This bet is looking good right now as the over/under live line is already 224.5. If they will be able to continue their good shooting, over is gonna hit easily, but there's a chance also that this game to go to OT since it's a very close game so far, so that's another factor to consider in case the scoring will slow down. Anyway, good luck,  as I was saying, it's looking good right now.

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December 08, 2023, 11:00:37 AM
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but on the first game I had over 216.5 since I believe NLEX will shoot better as they badly need a win here. 2 straight losses with the new import, they need to stop that.

This bet is looking good right now as the over/under live line is already 224.5. If they will be able to continue their good shooting, over is gonna hit easily, but there's a chance also that this game to go to OT since it's a very close game so far, so that's another factor to consider in case the scoring will slow down. Anyway, good luck,  as I was saying, it's looking good right now.

It was looking good in the first 3 quarter but in the 4th quarter NLEX struggled to score resulting to the total to go under.

Let's look at the scoring by quarters.

1st - 53
2nd - 61
3rd - 54
4th - 46...

If they only scored at least 50 points, bet could have been won. Gams are really unpredictable, you can't make a conclusion while it's still ongoing.

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December 08, 2023, 12:45:41 PM
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It seems like the Northport are playing without an import, but I'm surprise they're able to compete with the SMB and they are leading by 3 points now. There was no news regarding their import, so probably there are many gamblers who probably bet on Northport due to the high handicap.

I think it's still nice bet on the SMB now live as I think the 2nd half would be a different story, not sure if Northport would be able to carry the same energy they are giving now.

48-55 halftime score (in favor of Northport)

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December 08, 2023, 02:24:52 PM
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It seems like the Northport are playing without an import, but I'm surprise they're able to compete with the SMB and they are leading by 3 points now. There was no news regarding their import, so probably there are many gamblers who probably bet on Northport due to the high handicap.
Yes they are, they have opt to rest their import so they are playing importless against an SMB which are JMF less.

I think it's still nice bet on the SMB now live as I think the 2nd half would be a different story, not sure if Northport would be able to carry the same energy they are giving now.

48-55 halftime score (in favor of Northport)

Suppose to be nice if they won that game but they loss. Final score is 115-101, SMB just having a bad game while their import isn't so dominating, unable to take advantage on the lack of size of Northport inside.


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December 08, 2023, 02:54:10 PM
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but on the first game I had over 216.5 since I believe NLEX will shoot better as they badly need a win here. 2 straight losses with the new import, they need to stop that.

This bet is looking good right now as the over/under live line is already 224.5. If they will be able to continue their good shooting, over is gonna hit easily, but there's a chance also that this game to go to OT since it's a very close game so far, so that's another factor to consider in case the scoring will slow down. Anyway, good luck,  as I was saying, it's looking good right now.

It was looking good in the first 3 quarter but in the 4th quarter NLEX struggled to score resulting to the total to go under.

Let's look at the scoring by quarters.

1st - 53
2nd - 61
3rd - 54
4th - 46...

If they only scored at least 50 points, bet could have been won. Gams are really unpredictable, you can't make a conclusion while it's still ongoing.

The 4th quarter was a big disappointment, only 46? while they scored over 50+ points in the first 3 quarters?... This game could possibly go over if the game was a close one, unfortunately it didn't happen as ROS took over the 4th quarter and bring home a double digit win.



Suppose to be nice if they won that game but they loss. Final score is 115-101, SMB just having a bad game while their import isn't so dominating, unable to take advantage on the lack of size of Northport inside.

SMB kinda lost in this game, their ball movement aren't very effective while the Northport are shooting lights out beyond the arc.

This is a big upset (I would say) because having no import is almost an automatic loss, here not on they won the game but they dominated the SMB.

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December 08, 2023, 03:28:21 PM
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Suppose to be nice if they won that game but they loss. Final score is 115-101, SMB just having a bad game while their import isn't so dominating, unable to take advantage on the lack of size of Northport inside.

SMB kinda lost in this game, their ball movement aren't very effective while the Northport are shooting lights out beyond the arc.

This is a big upset (I would say) because having no import is almost an automatic loss, here not on they won the game but they dominated the SMB.

It was surprising because SMB is a good team but they can't even make the game to be a close one. I don't know but I have a suspicion that they are rigging the game, especially the refs, seems like the calls were mostly favored the Northport and they even make CJ Perez in foul trouble, resulting for the coach to sit him early, and while CJ is on the bench, the flow of offense of the SMB is at a mess.

Marcio unable to find open shots, he could be a igniter if he had made his shots as they need a big run, overall, it was a very bad game for them, so they need to fix their system, and make adjustments while JMF is out.


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December 09, 2023, 06:53:40 AM
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Suppose to be nice if they won that game but they loss. Final score is 115-101, SMB just having a bad game while their import isn't so dominating, unable to take advantage on the lack of size of Northport inside.

SMB kinda lost in this game, their ball movement aren't very effective while the Northport are shooting lights out beyond the arc.

This is a big upset (I would say) because having no import is almost an automatic loss, here not on they won the game but they dominated the SMB.

It was surprising because SMB is a good team but they can't even make the game to be a close one. I don't know but I have a suspicion that they are rigging the game, especially the refs, seems like the calls were mostly favored the Northport and they even make CJ Perez in foul trouble, resulting for the coach to sit him early, and while CJ is on the bench, the flow of offense of the SMB is at a mess.

Marcio unable to find open shots, he could be a igniter if he had made his shots as they need a big run, overall, it was a very bad game for them, so they need to fix their system, and make adjustments while JMF is out.

Not a surprise to me reading comments like this, who may think that SMB will lose the game by that huge margin, knowing how deep their bench is and how good this team in terms of overtaking their opponents. Not so well from a fan perspective, I also like to say that the chance that the game was being rigged is inside me now.

Though that's how the game works, bad nights and bad executions result in a lost. Good for those who take NP, that's a sweet TGIF for sure!

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December 09, 2023, 07:13:49 AM
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That rig speculation would always comes out once a favorite team loss, hehe.. That's normal, don't take it seriously, and just move on.

Anyway, speaking of move on, we have one game today, it's Ginebra vs Phoenix Fuel LPG. The spread is -6.5 for SMB and I'm picking them to win and cover. Although Phoenix does have a good record with 5-1, I'm still not convince that they could give Ginebra a good game.

Their 5 games was against a mediocre teams (see below), so I like the spread of Ginebra.  

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December 09, 2023, 11:06:28 AM
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That rig speculation would always comes out once a favorite team loss, hehe.. That's normal, don't take it seriously, and just move on.
Cut that that spec thing... It's not gonna help us have fun while watching the game, yes rig do exist, don't speculate anymore, just believe it's happening.

Anyway, speaking of move on, we have one game today, it's Ginebra vs Phoenix Fuel LPG. The spread is -6.5 for SMB and I'm picking them to win and cover. Although Phoenix does have a good record with 5-1, I'm still not convince that they could give Ginebra a good game.

Their 5 games was against a mediocre teams (see below), so I like the spread of Ginebra.  

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They are having a tour now, I think this game is played in Batangas, I just forgot the location when it was mentioned.
Currently it's a close game, but you know, 2nd half is the favorite period of Ginebra as they usually have good run on the finishing quarters.

Actually, it's quite funny, beacuse when it's played on their usual venue, only few people would attend, here, you can see lots fo people watching, it's like an MPBL feel.

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December 09, 2023, 11:25:49 AM
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They are having a tour now, I think this game is played in Batangas, I just forgot the location when it was mentioned.
Currently it's a close game, but you know, 2nd half is the favorite period of Ginebra as they usually have good run on the finishing quarters.
That's why.. Maybe that's the reason why we are witnessing a low scoring game now, the unfamiliarity of the court.

First half has ended, Ginebra took the lead with 36-43.
Those who missed the pregame odds, we have a live betting lines available, as for the handicap, we have Ginebra -7.5 at 1.85(odds).

Actually, it's quite funny, beacuse when it's played on their usual venue, only few people would attend, here, you can see lots fo people watching, it's like an MPBL feel.

This is an on tour, the gym is not as big as the usual gym they're using, so it's expected that the a lot of people will watch the game. I think it's even sponsored by the local government, so probably tickets are free.


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December 09, 2023, 12:25:48 PM
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That rig speculation would always comes out once a favorite team loss, hehe.. That's normal, don't take it seriously, and just move on.

Anyway, speaking of move on, we have one game today, it's Ginebra vs Phoenix Fuel LPG. The spread is -6.5 for SMB and I'm picking them to win and cover. Although Phoenix does have a good record with 5-1, I'm still not convince that they could give Ginebra a good game.

Their 5 games was against a mediocre teams (see below), so I like the spread of Ginebra.  

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Turned out that Gin kings failed to cover and worse  they failed to win the game,  Phoenix shows that they can win even against the tough squad,  not sure what happened with the gin  kings but again they failed their fans, the numbers that we expected from each stars didn't show up, while Phoenix really did well after the first half  they dominated and manage to keep that lead even how hard it is knowing that gin kings will continue to chase until the last second before the final buzzer.

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December 09, 2023, 01:03:03 PM
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That rig speculation would always comes out once a favorite team loss, hehe.. That's normal, don't take it seriously, and just move on.

Anyway, speaking of move on, we have one game today, it's Ginebra vs Phoenix Fuel LPG. The spread is -6.5 for SMB and I'm picking them to win and cover. Although Phoenix does have a good record with 5-1, I'm still not convince that they could give Ginebra a good game.

Their 5 games was against a mediocre teams (see below), so I like the spread of Ginebra.  

converge
DYIP
Bossing
ROS
NLEX

Turned out that Gin kings failed to cover and worse  they failed to win the game,  Phoenix shows that they can win even against the tough squad,  not sure what happened with the gin  kings but again they failed their fans, the numbers that we expected from each stars didn't show up, while Phoenix really did well after the first half  they dominated and manage to keep that lead even how hard it is knowing that gin kings will continue to chase until the last second before the final buzzer.

They were out of their comfort zone, not shooting well and their import is being outperformed by Williams.

I didnt read the news, is Thompson injured, or what? He's not in the game, Ginebra would probably be better if he was playing because of the energy he could bring on the floor. As usual, looking at the numbers of Ginebra's import, his playing okay but his impact wasn't so good, this is the time when people would start to miss Brownlee, and would say what if Brownlee was still their import, hehe..

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December 09, 2023, 01:50:22 PM
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That rig speculation would always comes out once a favorite team loss, hehe.. That's normal, don't take it seriously, and just move on.

Anyway, speaking of move on, we have one game today, it's Ginebra vs Phoenix Fuel LPG. The spread is -6.5 for SMB and I'm picking them to win and cover. Although Phoenix does have a good record with 5-1, I'm still not convince that they could give Ginebra a good game.

Their 5 games was against a mediocre teams (see below), so I like the spread of Ginebra.  

converge
DYIP
Bossing.
ROS
NLEX

Turned out that Gin kings failed to cover and worse  they failed to win the game,  Phoenix shows that they can win even against the tough squad,  not sure what happened with the gin  kings but again they failed their fans, the numbers that we expected from each stars didn't show up, while Phoenix really did well after the first half  they dominated and manage to keep that lead even how hard it is knowing that gin kings will continue to chase until the last second before the final buzzer.

expectations vs reality as we all know that we expect a good number of points by the star player of barangay ginebra San Miguel but in reality they didn't have much points even though they are doing their very Best but their effort didn't enough to beat their opponent . Anyways tomorrow's game is very good watch as we all know that magnolia will have a good chance to win us as we all know that thses both team are sisters company.
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December 10, 2023, 03:14:31 AM
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expectations vs reality as we all know that we expect a good number of points by the star player of barangay ginebra San Miguel but in reality they didn't have much points even though they are doing their very Best but their effort didn't enough to beat their opponent . Anyways tomorrow's game is very good watch as we all know that magnolia will have a good chance to win us as we all know that thses both team are sisters company.

Ginebra was only limited with 77 points, that's not them, you can really tell that they struggle on their shooting, the ball movement isn't so efficient.

Ahanmissi was probably the missing link, he's expecting to bring offense to the team but he only scored 4 points in the game, he had a bad game and that affected the team a lot. 1-8 shooting only, no one could win if one of their superstars shoot like that, and it seemed like he lost his confidence because of a bad start, i think he shoud have continued shooting until he gets his rthym.


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December 10, 2023, 06:39:21 AM
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We have two games today, and the first game will start in less than an hour, so check on your bookies now so you'll not miss the fun.

First game is Meralco vs Northport, I'm betting on the better team here with -3.5. For the 2nd game, I have Magnolia -7.5 against SMB, SMB lose on their previous game, they'll struggle more against a healthy and complete Magnolia.

No JMF inside, it will be hard for them to prevent the attacks inside.

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December 10, 2023, 08:00:43 AM
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We have two games today, and the first game will start in less than an hour, so check on your bookies now so you'll not miss the fun.

First game is Meralco vs Northport, I'm betting on the better team here with -3.5. For the 2nd game,
This game is happening now. Northport had a big first quarter but Meralco came back in the 2nd quarter to make it a close game.
Unfortunately, I could not watch a live streaming as it seems like our streamers are not anymore taking effort to stream due to the streams that can be easily taken down. Good luck anyway, Meralco is looking good with the come back.


I have Magnolia -7.5 against SMB, SMB lose on their previous game, they'll struggle more against a healthy and complete Magnolia.
No JMF inside, it will be hard for them to prevent the attacks inside.

I think I would wait for a live betting, although we know that Magnolia is good and could possibly cover this, but it's safer to wait since Magnolia doesn't start strong in most of their games but would have a big run in the end.
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December 10, 2023, 09:38:04 AM
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We have two games today, and the first game will start in less than an hour, so check on your bookies now so you'll not miss the fun.

First game is Meralco vs Northport, I'm betting on the better team here with -3.5. For the 2nd game,
This game is happening now. Northport had a big first quarter but Meralco came back in the 2nd quarter to make it a close game.
Unfortunately, I could not watch a live streaming as it seems like our streamers are not anymore taking effort to stream due to the streams that can be easily taken down. Good luck anyway, Meralco is looking good with the come back.
Meralco's import was too much, he scored 54 points while NP's import only 9.
Another big win by the Meralco Bolts, it's a 26 poins win (99-125), not their usual output as they are a defensive team but they are lucky to have Zachary Lofton which is a good candidate for the best import competition.



I have Magnolia -7.5 against SMB, SMB lose on their previous game, they'll struggle more against a healthy and complete Magnolia.
No JMF inside, it will be hard for them to prevent the attacks inside.

I think I would wait for a live betting, although we know that Magnolia is good and could possibly cover this, but it's safer to wait since Magnolia doesn't start strong in most of their games but would have a big run in the end.

There's a slight movement of the line, from -7.5 it's not up to -8.5, still in favor of the Magnolia Hotshots.

Game will start in less than an hour, so let's take a dinner early so no more interruption.

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