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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
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December 13, 2023, 12:32:39 PM
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I saw Bollick playing already, not leading the scoring yet but it looks like he is already comfortable with his new team. NLEX starting strong, and have finished the first quarter with a double digit lead, if this will continue, they'll like win this game and their losing streak will be over soon.

This game is now getting exciting to watch, I thought it will be another blowout win by TNT, but they are the one who are trailing here.

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December 13, 2023, 12:56:32 PM
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I saw Bollick playing already, not leading the scoring yet but it looks like he is already comfortable with his new team. NLEX starting strong, and have finished the first quarter with a double digit lead, if this will continue, they'll like win this game and their losing streak will be over soon.

This game is now getting exciting to watch, I thought it will be another blowout win by TNT, but they are the one who are trailing here.

Bollick was just facilitating the ball and they have a good ball movement resulting to a big lead they keep after the first half.

The score now is 39-58, that's a 19 points lead, I don't think TNT will be able to come back in this game even if they'll make this a single digit game, they may owned the 3rd quarter but they'll get tired in the 4th as they are undermanned. No Castro, so no good ball facilitator.

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December 13, 2023, 01:11:05 PM
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I saw Bollick playing already, not leading the scoring yet but it looks like he is already comfortable with his new team. NLEX starting strong, and have finished the first quarter with a double digit lead, if this will continue, they'll like win this game and their losing streak will be over soon.

This game is now getting exciting to watch, I thought it will be another blowout win by TNT, but they are the one who are trailing here.

Bollick was just facilitating the ball and they have a good ball movement resulting to a big lead they keep after the first half.

The score now is 39-58, that's a 19 points lead, I don't think TNT will be able to come back in this game even if they'll make this a single digit game, they may owned the 3rd quarter but they'll get tired in the 4th as they are undermanned. No Castro, so no good ball facilitator.


That's what I like with what he is doing now, I thought he'll play like he used to with the Northport before, but with his good facilitating the ball, everyone is getting involve and they are contributing. As what we've seen on the boxscores, RHJ has been heavily carrying the team with 22 points at the half, while the next top scorer only had 4 points which is Oftana.

BTW, we have some celebration, Asi's birthday today... And he is still wearing the uniform, which means he is still active.

So, is he the oldest active PBA player now?

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December 14, 2023, 06:18:54 AM
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I saw Bollick playing already, not leading the scoring yet but it looks like he is already comfortable with his new team. NLEX starting strong, and have finished the first quarter with a double digit lead, if this will continue, they'll like win this game and their losing streak will be over soon.

This game is now getting exciting to watch, I thought it will be another blowout win by TNT, but they are the one who are trailing here.

Bollick was just facilitating the ball and they have a good ball movement resulting to a big lead they keep after the first half.

The score now is 39-58, that's a 19 points lead, I don't think TNT will be able to come back in this game even if they'll make this a single digit game, they may owned the 3rd quarter but they'll get tired in the 4th as they are undermanned. No Castro, so no good ball facilitator.

This NLEX team is the shi**iest now. Cry

At some point they were up 21 points and then suddenly they stop playing in the 2nd half.
I can't even imagine that they'll lose by a double digit after being up by a huge margin, I think they are done and betting on them everytime is like making a big mistake. Sorry for those who expected an easy win but was disappointed in the end.

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December 14, 2023, 07:06:39 AM
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I saw Bollick playing already, not leading the scoring yet but it looks like he is already comfortable with his new team. NLEX starting strong, and have finished the first quarter with a double digit lead, if this will continue, they'll like win this game and their losing streak will be over soon.

This game is now getting exciting to watch, I thought it will be another blowout win by TNT, but they are the one who are trailing here.

Bollick was just facilitating the ball and they have a good ball movement resulting to a big lead they keep after the first half.

The score now is 39-58, that's a 19 points lead, I don't think TNT will be able to come back in this game even if they'll make this a single digit game, they may owned the 3rd quarter but they'll get tired in the 4th as they are undermanned. No Castro, so no good ball facilitator.

This NLEX team is the shi**iest now. Cry

At some point they were up 21 points and then suddenly they stop playing in the 2nd half.
I can't even imagine that they'll lose by a double digit after being up by a huge margin, I think they are done and betting on them everytime is like making a big mistake. Sorry for those who expected an easy win but was disappointed in the end.

I think they loss all their energy in the first half, they played well to offer that big lead to Asi as he was recognize for his long term journey in the PBA during the halftime break.  He actually retired. read the story for those who haven't seen the game live.

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THE longest playing tenure in PBA history finally came to an end Wednesday night.

NLEX officially retired the no. 88 playing jersey of Asi Taulava, capping a long, 24-year playing career that had its own share of ups and downs.

The 50-year-old Taulava was with his entire family during the retirement ceremony held at halftime of the PBA Commissioner's Cup game between TNT and NLEX at Philsports Arena.

The evergreen Fil-Tongan was activated prior to the game to make it official his 24th season in the league in a career that began in 1999 as the direct Fil-foreign hire of TNT.

Coach Frankie Lim then made him part of the starting unit along with Rob Herndon, Matt Nieto, rookie Enoch Valdez, and import Stokley Chaffee.

Going back to the main topic, I see this like a similar scenario of the Warriors game where they are up early but ending up losing the game.

Just look at the 3rd (41-20) and 4th quarter (33-19) scoring.

That 3rd quarter alone TNT were able to come back in the game already, and going to the 4th quarter, we know that NLEX was already in trouble as the energy of TNT is so strong that they want to end the game with a dominant passion, and they did.
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December 14, 2023, 11:28:36 AM
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Just look at the 3rd (41-20) and 4th quarter (33-19) scoring.

That 3rd quarter alone TNT were able to come back in the game already, and going to the 4th quarter, we know that NLEX was already in trouble as the energy of TNT is so strong that they want to end the game with a dominant passion, and they did.

That was so disappointing for the NLEX, at first they look like they are gonna stop the bleeding on their losing streak but when the 2nd half came, they go back to their old self and hasn't been able to stop the TNT's import, plus the 3 point shooting of TNT was able to click in then half especially Oftana who struggled in the first half but ended up having 29 big points in the game.

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December 14, 2023, 11:31:05 AM
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Going back to the main topic, I see this like a similar scenario of the Warriors game where they are up early but ending up losing the game.

Just look at the 3rd (41-20) and 4th quarter (33-19) scoring.

That 3rd quarter alone TNT were able to come back in the game already, and going to the 4th quarter, we know that NLEX was already in trouble as the energy of TNT is so strong that they want to end the game with a dominant passion, and they did.

Things went sour for NLEX in the second half of the ball while everything that TNT threw went in the basket in the third and fourth quarters. I lost my bet but didn't regret as i think Bolick will be the biggest factor if they won that game.

Meanwhile, my prediction is happening, SMB Beermen will be parading a new import, 6 foot 10 Bennie Boatwright. He will be replacing Ivan Aska after their game with Ginebra Kings as per report.

SMB won't win a game if they stick with their import Aska if Junemar is sitting in the bench due to injury, too small, they need a rim protector and a rebounder as a replacement for Fajardo while he is out for a while.
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December 14, 2023, 11:44:15 AM
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Going back to the main topic, I see this like a similar scenario of the Warriors game where they are up early but ending up losing the game.

Just look at the 3rd (41-20) and 4th quarter (33-19) scoring.

That 3rd quarter alone TNT were able to come back in the game already, and going to the 4th quarter, we know that NLEX was already in trouble as the energy of TNT is so strong that they want to end the game with a dominant passion, and they did.

Things went sour for NLEX in the second half of the ball while everything that TNT threw went in the basket in the third and fourth quarters. I lost my bet but didn't regret as i think Bolick will be the biggest factor if they won that game.

Meanwhile, my prediction is happening, SMB Beermen will be parading a new import, 6 foot 10 Bennie Boatwright. He will be replacing Ivan Aska after their game with Ginebra Kings as per report.

SMB won't win a game if they stick with their import Aska if Junemar is sitting in the bench due to injury, too small, they need a rim protector and a rebounder as a replacement for Fajardo while he is out for a while.

Great decision, they need a dominant import and Aska is not that kind of import. SMB can afford to hire a good import, so they should look for a good one. 6 foot 10, tht's a long import, hopefully he can fill up the gap that the SMB is lacking, a dominant big man is what they need as the have good outside shooters.

By the way, we have some good news.

Chris Newsome shines as Meralco stuns Ryukyu for 1st EASL win

Finally, we were able to win a game, last time this tell just fell short against the Team of Jeremy Lin.

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December 14, 2023, 05:47:12 PM
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Going back to the main topic, I see this like a similar scenario of the Warriors game where they are up early but ending up losing the game.

Just look at the 3rd (41-20) and 4th quarter (33-19) scoring.

That 3rd quarter alone TNT were able to come back in the game already, and going to the 4th quarter, we know that NLEX was already in trouble as the energy of TNT is so strong that they want to end the game with a dominant passion, and they did.

Things went sour for NLEX in the second half of the ball while everything that TNT threw went in the basket in the third and fourth quarters. I lost my bet but didn't regret as i think Bolick will be the biggest factor if they won that game.

Meanwhile, my prediction is happening, SMB Beermen will be parading a new import, 6 foot 10 Bennie Boatwright. He will be replacing Ivan Aska after their game with Ginebra Kings as per report.

SMB won't win a game if they stick with their import Aska if Junemar is sitting in the bench due to injury, too small, they need a rim protector and a rebounder as a replacement for Fajardo while he is out for a while.

Indeed, it was a good offensive execution for coach Jolas and his squad, they take this one from Berto's debut but it's okay there are still games that Berto will be able to get his feet back, for now, let him grasp everything back with his new squad, he still need to catch up with how NLEX play the game and what will be his designation to help the team.

On the part of SMB, they need to replace their import like what you mentioned, too smalll and without JMF inside other team's reinforcement can easily dominate, they need someone who can protect the rim and give them more rebounds plus also a threat
in their offensive executions.

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December 15, 2023, 10:09:58 AM
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Looks like another easy win for the TNT is coming.

They're having a very comfortable lead now and their import has another impressive game, 42 points so far and this could go 50 points if the coach won't decide to sit him. Now, we've seen how good RHJ is, because even without the other superstar, he was able to make TNT being a competitive team and make its good ranking.

87-101 is the score, BTW, I had TNT -9.5 with 2.00 odds.  Grin

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December 15, 2023, 11:16:58 AM
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87-101 is the score, BTW, I had TNT -9.5 with 2.00 odds.  Grin

Sorry bro, this doesn't go your way. I didn't watch the game but it looks like they sit RHJ early giving the Blackwater a chance to win the 4th quarter. You fall short by 0.5 only because they only won by 9 points, such a bad bet. Actually TNT could have covered that spread if they continue their aggressive plays, but they seemed to complacent as they  know they would already win the game.

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December 15, 2023, 12:13:41 PM
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SMB vs Ginebra now live.

I thought SMB is gonna bring a new import in this game but I see it was still  Aska who's playing, probably after this game. SMB is having a lead now by 7 points, I think it's time for us to live bet now as on pregame odds, Ginebra was the favorite.

As for my bet here, I didn't bet on the spread, instead I look on the total and I have under 192.50. GL!

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December 15, 2023, 07:22:24 PM
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SMB vs Ginebra now live.

I thought SMB is gonna bring a new import in this game but I see it was still  Aska who's playing, probably after this game. SMB is having a lead now by 7 points, I think it's time for us to live bet now as on pregame odds, Ginebra was the favorite.

As for my bet here, I didn't bet on the spread, instead I look on the total and I have under 192.50. GL!

I thought it's an easy win for San Miguel Beermen after the half as they are in the big lead in almost the entire game. The highest lead they got is 24 points. But to my surprised when I check the scoreboard, Ginebra makes a rally and cut down the lead by 4 in the 4th quarter.

I'm now in the idea that if Ginebra is down by at least 20+ points, it's good to consider taking a shot at them in the Moneyline in live betting.

Although they didn't win that game, I'm sure the live betting odds is worth to take a risk especially against a top team. Although looking at the remaining game schedule for Ginebra, it's only against the Meralco where I can consider one of the toughest which currently in a 5-1 W/L record.
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December 16, 2023, 02:30:51 AM
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SMB vs Ginebra now live.

I thought SMB is gonna bring a new import in this game but I see it was still  Aska who's playing, probably after this game. SMB is having a lead now by 7 points, I think it's time for us to live bet now as on pregame odds, Ginebra was the favorite.

As for my bet here, I didn't bet on the spread, instead I look on the total and I have under 192.50. GL!

As per report, their new import will play on their next game which is this Sunday as they are still working on their new import's paper works.

Just surprising for me that they won the game last night as i thought that it's gonna be an easy work for Ginebra as they have an edge on the frontline but Cruz and Chris Ross didn't let their fans down as they fought through that Ginebra's comback.

Nevertheless, congrats on your win kabayan as the game's score was under 192.50.
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December 16, 2023, 06:53:22 AM
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SMB vs Ginebra now live.

I thought SMB is gonna bring a new import in this game but I see it was still  Aska who's playing, probably after this game. SMB is having a lead now by 7 points, I think it's time for us to live bet now as on pregame odds, Ginebra was the favorite.

As for my bet here, I didn't bet on the spread, instead I look on the total and I have under 192.50. GL!

As per report, their new import will play on their next game which is this Sunday as they are still working on their new import's paper works.

Just surprising for me that they won the game last night as i thought that it's gonna be an easy work for Ginebra as they have an edge on the frontline but Cruz and Chris Ross didn't let their fans down as they fought through that Ginebra's comback.

Nevertheless, congrats on your win kabayan as the game's score was under 192.50.

Easy under. Usually when Ginebra and Magnolia are playing regardless of their opponents, you can expect an under. Aska 10 points in the game is one of the major reasons why the SMB will replace him, he ain't a kind of import that is suitable for SMB as this team is a championship team, and now that they miss the service of JMF, it's more important for them to ensure that they'll get a productive import, someone that could be as good as RHJ or even close to his level.

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December 16, 2023, 10:57:31 AM
Last edit: December 16, 2023, 11:11:44 AM by Maslate
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Are you guys watching the game now?

Rain or shine and Magnolia is currently playing. As of now, the game seemed to be very competitive, so this is enjoyable to watch. This one is not probably a low scoring game as it looks like they'll score at least 100 points before this first half will end. IIRC, the total in this game was 201.50, bettors could easily jump on the under since Magnolia is a low scoring team, especially when they are in control of the game.

I'm waiting for ROS to take a good lead and I'll bet on Magnolia during the break, hopefully ROS will extend their lead to at least 10 points. \\




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December 16, 2023, 11:42:46 AM
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Nice timing, good lukc with your bet. Magnolia is a team that you can trust especially in the 2nd half as they are good in coming back. Paul Lee is playing, I thought he was injured last time, so this is a close Magnolia team that is down by a double digit. I believe they can make a come back in the 3rd quarter and we will have a close game in the last quarter.

By the way, it's already 77-75 now, ROS only is leading by 2 points.

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December 16, 2023, 12:13:23 PM
Last edit: December 16, 2023, 12:36:09 PM by bisdak40
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Took Magnolia ML @2.40
Nice timing, good lukc with your bet. Magnolia is a team that you can trust especially in the 2nd half as they are good in coming back. Paul Lee is playing, I thought he was injured last time, so this is a close Magnolia team that is down by a double digit. I believe they can make a come back in the 3rd quarter and we will have a close game in the last quarter.

By the way, it's already 77-75 now, ROS only is leading by 2 points.

Nice timing indeed. With two minutes left in the ball game, Magnolia is leading now with 4 points. Shots were not falling now for ROS like in the first half. It nice to see somehow ROS defeating Magnolia here but seems the experience and confidence of Magnolia is too much for ROS.

edit: That 3's from Datu and Santillan end the winning streak of Magnolia. Wow, 18 games winning streak has been halted by ROS on the road.
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December 16, 2023, 12:19:32 PM
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Took Magnolia ML @2.40
Nice timing, good lukc with your bet. Magnolia is a team that you can trust especially in the 2nd half as they are good in coming back. Paul Lee is playing, I thought he was injured last time, so this is a close Magnolia team that is down by a double digit. I believe they can make a come back in the 3rd quarter and we will have a close game in the last quarter.

By the way, it's already 77-75 now, ROS only is leading by 2 points.

Nice timing indeed. With two minutes left in the ball game, Magnolia is leading now with 4 points. Shots were not falling now for ROS like in the first half. It nice to see somehow ROS defeating Magnolia here but seems the experience and confidence of Magnolia is too much for ROS.
What a game for ROS, but still Magnolia shows a veterans move its just that they fell short.
I forgot to place a bet, lucky to those who took the risk for ROS. Well, PBA is getting more interesting when the top teams are playing, Magnolia incur their first loss this conference, too bad for them though, they should not be complacent next time.
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December 16, 2023, 01:36:26 PM
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Took Magnolia ML @2.40
Nice timing, good lukc with your bet. Magnolia is a team that you can trust especially in the 2nd half as they are good in coming back. Paul Lee is playing, I thought he was injured last time, so this is a close Magnolia team that is down by a double digit. I believe they can make a come back in the 3rd quarter and we will have a close game in the last quarter.

By the way, it's already 77-75 now, ROS only is leading by 2 points.

Nice timing indeed. With two minutes left in the ball game, Magnolia is leading now with 4 points. Shots were not falling now for ROS like in the first half. It nice to see somehow ROS defeating Magnolia here but seems the experience and confidence of Magnolia is too much for ROS.
What a game for ROS, but still Magnolia shows a veterans move its just that they fell short.
I forgot to place a bet, lucky to those who took the risk for ROS. Well, PBA is getting more interesting when the top teams are playing, Magnolia incur their first loss this conference, too bad for them though, they should not be complacent next time.

You are lucky if you were to bet on the Magnolia because their win streak was stopped.

Barroca was the reason  why the Magnolia had a lead in the remaining few minutes, but unfortunately he was also the reason why they lose. I didn't see Bey taking more shots, he should be the one diving the ball inside as he could potentially get fouled, and with good FT shooting, Magnolia will surely be able to get production from him.



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