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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 16 (45.7%)
SMB - 7 (20%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 5 (14.3%)
Talk and Text - 6 (17.1%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (2.9%)
Total Voters: 35

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December 10, 2023, 09:43:42 AM
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expectations vs reality as we all know that we expect a good number of points by the star player of barangay ginebra San Miguel but in reality they didn't have much points even though they are doing their very Best but their effort didn't enough to beat their opponent . Anyways tomorrow's game is very good watch as we all know that magnolia will have a good chance to win us as we all know that thses both team are sisters company.

Ginebra was only limited with 77 points, that's not them, you can really tell that they struggle on their shooting, the ball movement isn't so efficient.

Ahanmissi was probably the missing link, he's expecting to bring offense to the team but he only scored 4 points in the game, he had a bad game and that affected the team a lot. 1-8 shooting only, no one could win if one of their superstars shoot like that, and it seemed like he lost his confidence because of a bad start, i think he shoud have continued shooting until he gets his rthym.

Seems to me that coach Tim is still playing with his cards, I mean still working with Ahanmissi. I used to remember Pringle when he first arrived with Gin kings he got that decent playing time to bring his offensive arsenal. Now it's Ahanmissi, to provide that part and with his poor shooting percentages, the team really suffers.

Though it's still far from the next round and Gin kings position is still decent in terms of moving forward, they need sparks to start their rally and win their upcoming games.

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December 10, 2023, 10:23:29 AM
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expectations vs reality as we all know that we expect a good number of points by the star player of barangay ginebra San Miguel but in reality they didn't have much points even though they are doing their very Best but their effort didn't enough to beat their opponent . Anyways tomorrow's game is very good watch as we all know that magnolia will have a good chance to win us as we all know that thses both team are sisters company.

Ginebra was only limited with 77 points, that's not them, you can really tell that they struggle on their shooting, the ball movement isn't so efficient.

Ahanmissi was probably the missing link, he's expecting to bring offense to the team but he only scored 4 points in the game, he had a bad game and that affected the team a lot. 1-8 shooting only, no one could win if one of their superstars shoot like that, and it seemed like he lost his confidence because of a bad start, i think he shoud have continued shooting until he gets his rthym.

Seems to me that coach Tim is still playing with his cards, I mean still working with Ahanmissi. I used to remember Pringle when he first arrived with Gin kings he got that decent playing time to bring his offensive arsenal. Now it's Ahanmissi, to provide that part and with his poor shooting percentages, the team really suffers.
They can't use Stanley Pringle anymore as he wasn't producing like his usualy days, and he is already 36 years old, seems old enough that could not cope up with the younger and more athletic players. I believe when Pringle was injured and he came back, he wasn't the same anymore, so he would jsut be a role player just like other veterans and Ahanmissi might be leading the way along with Thompson.

Though it's still far from the next round and Gin kings position is still decent in terms of moving forward, they need sparks to start their rally and win their upcoming games.

They need Scottie back to improve their chances of winning, without him, the one who brings a lot of energy to the team, they'll unlikely to beat the strong teams like the Magnolia.

By the way, have you see the first game? The import of Meralco just erupted with 54 points, that guy was legit, he played like Bradley Beal, do you agree?

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December 11, 2023, 02:05:24 AM
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By the way, have you see the first game? The import of Meralco just erupted with 54 points, that guy was legit, he played like Bradley Beal, do you agree?

He played exeptional basketball in his debut. Not too long but he go some moves, I like how he keep the Meralco Bolts and offensive team from a defensive team, if they could keep him their regular import, Meralco has a shot of winning a champion. Hopefully I'm not overreacting though, it's just one game but he played impressive basketball already.

Anyways, have you bet on the Magnolia -6.5? That was a trap, I was thinking Magnolia would be able to easily beat SMB since they are undermanned but the game goes down to the wire.

No JMF, Ensiso, Romeo, probably more? Still manage to keep it close, and CJ's shooting was very poor. I don't understand why Magnolia didn't blow them out. There must be something happening inside?  Grin

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December 11, 2023, 04:23:09 AM
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By the way, have you see the first game? The import of Meralco just erupted with 54 points, that guy was legit, he played like Bradley Beal, do you agree?

He played exeptional basketball in his debut. Not too long but he go some moves, I like how he keep the Meralco Bolts and offensive team from a defensive team, if they could keep him their regular import, Meralco has a shot of winning a champion. Hopefully I'm not overreacting though, it's just one game but he played impressive basketball already.

Anyways, have you bet on the Magnolia -6.5? That was a trap, I was thinking Magnolia would be able to easily beat SMB since they are undermanned but the game goes down to the wire.

No JMF, Ensiso, Romeo, probably more? Still manage to keep it close, and CJ's shooting was very poor. I don't understand why Magnolia didn't blow them out. There must be something happening inside?  Grin

They just need to win, that's all. Whatever the score, a win is still a win, so for those who take the handicap for SMB, they've got that sweet win, not making another speculation, but we all know how sister company play against each other. I agree with what you are saying. It is possible that there's something in between, because by looking at how Magnolia play the game, supposedly an easy blowout game for them, but look what happens, as what I mentioned just win and that's it.

Sorry to those who believe that Magnolia will cover that handicap. Undermanned SMB surely can't overplay Mags but they manage to keep the gap close until the game ends.

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December 11, 2023, 12:30:18 PM
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Sorry to those who believe that Magnolia will cover that handicap. Undermanned SMB surely can't overplay Mags but they manage to keep the gap close until the game ends.

I'm quite surprised to see Magnolia not covering the spread as they usually do. I thought that after that massive upset in the hands of NorthPort, SMB Beermen will play lousy but it seems that they give Magnolia a good fight until the end.

Two consecutive losses now for the Beermen and they are now in the middle of the standings while Fajardo is out for at least a month, i think they have to change their import as Aska is no good if there is no Fajardo dominating the midddle, i mean he can't be a "go-to-guy" if the Beermen needs to score points. I would not be surprised if Aska will be replaced in the coming weeks, that NorthPort lose was unacceptable as far as I'm concerned hehe.

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December 11, 2023, 05:25:39 PM
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I have read the news that Mikey Williams as per Homer Sayson that he's trying to reconnect with the Talk N Text. What can you say about that? I guess that the TNT will still give him some space since he's a no doubt good addition to their roster. Although they're not at the bottom of standings now but still, they're one of those that don't have a good standing as of the moment. And the trade also about Bolick, I thought that he's already out of the team since he's able to sign into two different leagues.

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December 12, 2023, 12:48:25 PM
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I have read the news that Mikey Williams as per Homer Sayson that he's trying to reconnect with the Talk N Text. What can you say about that? I guess that the TNT will still give him some space since he's a no doubt good addition to their roster. Although they're not at the bottom of standings now but still, they're one of those that don't have a good standing as of the moment. And the trade also about Bolick, I thought that he's already out of the team since he's able to sign into two different leagues.

Maybe they will reconsider him if he follows them and not insist on what he wants, like what you have said. They are now in the middle or not in that usual spot. By adding Mikey, for sure, he will give an additional threat. We all know how well they play together with RHJ, he can help to provide offensive numbers.

Though not sure what the setup will be if ever, he will have that opportunity to play back, let's see if Homer Sayson's forecast will take place, or if it's just another rumor that will not happen. It's an eye-catching forecast to grab the attention of the readers.

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December 12, 2023, 12:56:55 PM
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I have read the news that Mikey Williams as per Homer Sayson that he's trying to reconnect with the Talk N Text. What can you say about that? I guess that the TNT will still give him some space since he's a no doubt good addition to their roster. Although they're not at the bottom of standings now but still, they're one of those that don't have a good standing as of the moment. And the trade also about Bolick, I thought that he's already out of the team since he's able to sign into two different leagues.

Maybe they will reconsider him if he follows them and not insist on what he wants, like what you have said. They are now in the middle or not in that usual spot. By adding Mikey, for sure, he will give an additional threat. We all know how well they play together with RHJ, he can help to provide offensive numbers.

Though not sure what the setup will be if ever, he will have that opportunity to play back, let's see if Homer Sayson's forecast will take place, or if it's just another rumor that will not happen. It's an eye-catching forecast to grab the attention of the readers.

If I'm a management of TNT, i would not have a communication with Mikey Williams, because it seems like TNT was only the last option here, probably he failed with his negotiations on other teams and they are left with no choice now. When TNT needed him, Williams did not even respond like he wasn't part of the team, so TNT should move on and look for other talent, leave Williams alone.

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December 12, 2023, 01:21:26 PM
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I have read the news that Mikey Williams as per Homer Sayson that he's trying to reconnect with the Talk N Text. What can you say about that? I guess that the TNT will still give him some space since he's a no doubt good addition to their roster. Although they're not at the bottom of standings now but still, they're one of those that don't have a good standing as of the moment. And the trade also about Bolick, I thought that he's already out of the team since he's able to sign into two different leagues.

I have also read this one on my social media feed. If that is true that Mikey Williams is trying to be back to the TNT Katropa then good for him as he now realise that no salary for months now is hard for him hehe. The problem for him though is that MVP pride is high and per Jolas statement, they can live without him. But somehow i like him to be back in the PBA rather playing in another league in Japan or Korea because the guy has talent.

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December 12, 2023, 08:45:49 PM
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I have read the news that Mikey Williams as per Homer Sayson that he's trying to reconnect with the Talk N Text. What can you say about that? I guess that the TNT will still give him some space since he's a no doubt good addition to their roster. Although they're not at the bottom of standings now but still, they're one of those that don't have a good standing as of the moment. And the trade also about Bolick, I thought that he's already out of the team since he's able to sign into two different leagues.

Maybe they will reconsider him if he follows them and not insist on what he wants, like what you have said. They are now in the middle or not in that usual spot. By adding Mikey, for sure, he will give an additional threat. We all know how well they play together with RHJ, he can help to provide offensive numbers.

Though not sure what the setup will be if ever, he will have that opportunity to play back, let's see if Homer Sayson's forecast will take place, or if it's just another rumor that will not happen. It's an eye-catching forecast to grab the attention of the readers.
There were some statements from Mikey Williams that he said that he didn't demanded anything just unlike what Al and the Gilas management have mentioned during their press conference before. So, maybe he's right but maybe he can also lie because it was affecting him a lot. Anyway, going back on this scene that he's making about reconsidering him, the TNT might get on him again because this is what they like. To have a player that can be counted and depend on. There might be a special treatment on him but if he's going to ask for a max contract, well then that's TNT's problem if not, there will be some other teams that's going to take him, possibly.

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December 12, 2023, 10:55:07 PM
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There were some statements from Mikey Williams that he said that he didn't demanded anything just unlike what Al and the Gilas management have mentioned during their press conference before. So, maybe he's right but maybe he can also lie because it was affecting him a lot. Anyway, going back on this scene that he's making about reconsidering him, the TNT might get on him again because this is what they like. To have a player that can be counted and depend on. There might be a special treatment on him but if he's going to ask for a max contract, well then that's TNT's problem if not, there will be some other teams that's going to take him, possibly.
There are some players who demanded a lot just to play with Gilas and that is not rumor for sure.
If TNT can afford him again then it will be a big addition to them since Miley is still a great player to look forward to its just that he become too expensive. TNT standing for this conference is not ok, they really need someone to help them and start their campaign on a big wins again.
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December 12, 2023, 11:51:12 PM
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There were some statements from Mikey Williams that he said that he didn't demanded anything just unlike what Al and the Gilas management have mentioned during their press conference before. So, maybe he's right but maybe he can also lie because it was affecting him a lot. Anyway, going back on this scene that he's making about reconsidering him, the TNT might get on him again because this is what they like. To have a player that can be counted and depend on. There might be a special treatment on him but if he's going to ask for a max contract, well then that's TNT's problem if not, there will be some other teams that's going to take him, possibly.

Knowing Mikey William's personality since then, he can just make any statement to the press anytime he wants. But for the legitimacy of those statements, I'm not buying it. Obviously, he won't admit that he didn't demand anything but let's remember that he had that same experience before where he demanded a big salary over the required teams salary cap. And the rest is history.

Also knowing TNT, even how good a player is, they won't give special treatment if, on the other hand, that said player is arrogant. See what happened before when Mikey missed several team practices without giving a noticed? Coach Jolas penalized and suspended him with a 1 week no pay, and showed no special treatment even he was the main leading scorer of the team during that conference.

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2 games will be played today.

First game DYIP vs Converge. I'm leaning on the converge here as they have a good chance of breaking their losing streak against a team that aren't so strong. While on the 2nd game, we have TNT vs NLEX, and since NLEX has been struggling so far, I'm not backing them this game, instead TNT is going to be my pick. I might just parlay the TNT + Converge bet.


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2 games will be played today.

First game DYIP vs Converge. I'm leaning on the converge here as they have a good chance of breaking their losing streak against a team that aren't so strong. While on the 2nd game, we have TNT vs NLEX, and since NLEX has been struggling so far, I'm not backing them this game, instead TNT is going to be my pick. I might just parlay the TNT + Converge bet.

You'll get at least +100 if you do a parlay on the two favorites.

Currently, the spread are as follows.

1- Converge -3
2- TNT -7.5

I'm sure NLEX will be so desperate to win here as with their new import, they haven't won a game yet. Last time they were blown out by the ROS losing by 12 points,  so with TNT, I don't think they have a chance to win specially that TNT's import is so dominant.

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2 games will be played today.

First game DYIP vs Converge. I'm leaning on the converge here as they have a good chance of breaking their losing streak against a team that aren't so strong. While on the 2nd game, we have TNT vs NLEX, and since NLEX has been struggling so far, I'm not backing them this game, instead TNT is going to be my pick. I might just parlay the TNT + Converge bet.

You'll get at least +100 if you do a parlay on the two favorites.
I would, that's a pretty decent odds already betting on a favorites that is expected to likely win the game. I have a little doubt with the converge, while on TNT, I'm assuring they'll have an easy win. So best of luck, let's get this win.


Currently, the spread are as follows.

1- Converge -3
2- TNT -7.5

I'm sure NLEX will be so desperate to win here as with their new import, they haven't won a game yet. Last time they were blown out by the ROS losing by 12 points,  so with TNT, I don't think they have a chance to win specially that TNT's import is so dominant.

They (Converge) haven't win a single game yet, so I guess they are more desperate than the NLEX. I'm just hoping now, and if they wouldn't start well, I might place a live bet with Converge moneyline.


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2 games will be played today.

First game DYIP vs Converge. I'm leaning on the converge here as they have a good chance of breaking their losing streak against a team that aren't so strong. While on the 2nd game, we have TNT vs NLEX, and since NLEX has been struggling so far, I'm not backing them this game, instead TNT is going to be my pick. I might just parlay the TNT + Converge bet.

Yeah, this is a winnable game for Converge as DYIP is also on a losing streak. On papers, Converge is a stronger team than DYIP and they also have a new import which i ithink is better than Vodanovich.

Converge -3.5 @1.98 vs DYIP

For the second game, i will go live betting as Bollick will be having his debut as a member of the Road Warriors, he might give some headaches to coach Jolas.

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2 games will be played today.

First game DYIP vs Converge. I'm leaning on the converge here as they have a good chance of breaking their losing streak against a team that aren't so strong. While on the 2nd game, we have TNT vs NLEX, and since NLEX has been struggling so far, I'm not backing them this game, instead TNT is going to be my pick. I might just parlay the TNT + Converge bet.

Yeah, this is a winnable game for Converge as DYIP is also on a losing streak. On papers, Converge is a stronger team than DYIP and they also have a new import which i ithink is better than Vodanovich.

Converge -3.5 @1.98 vs DYIP

For the second game, i will go live betting as Bollick will be having his debut as a member of the Road Warriors, he might give some headaches to coach Jolas.

Third period now and Converge is leading by 8 if they continue that or maintain the momentum that handicap can be cover easily kabayan. I failed to monitor the game and missed that chance to follow you, "bakas sana ako" ahaha but moving forwad, the next game will be tough. As like what you mentioned, a debut for Bolick he might get something that will allow his new team to lean on him in terms of their offense,

Though we can't conclude that, as everything is still going to depend on how the game will be executed. I'm looking forward to seeing Bolick fit himself with his new team and try to bring that kind of scoring ability, helping their import.


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For the second game, i will go live betting as Bollick will be having his debut as a member of the Road Warriors, he might give some headaches to coach Jolas.

Thanks for bringing up this good news, I didn't know that Bollick was already signed by the NLEX, they really need someone like him who knows how to attack the basket. I think I'm going to be on the NLEX moneyline, they are 3.30 now, I'm sure they would be able to give the TNT a run for their money.

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Third period now and Converge is leading by 8 if they continue that or maintain the momentum that handicap can be cover easily kabayan. I failed to monitor the game and missed that chance to follow you, "bakas sana ako" ahaha but moving forwad, the next game will be tough. As like what you mentioned, a debut for Bolick he might get something that will allow his new team to lean on him in terms of their offense,

Though we can't conclude that, as everything is still going to depend on how the game will be executed. I'm looking forward to seeing Bolick fit himself with his new team and try to bring that kind of scoring ability, helping their import.

At last, Converge has barged into the win column but not without a scare. I thought that it would be an easy win for Converge but DYIP was very stubborn that they don't to be left behind. Tiongson's 28 points in the ball game were gone to waste, no thanks to the import of Converge who tallied 32 big points. At least my bet won hehe.


For the second game, i will go live betting as Bollick will be having his debut as a member of the Road Warriors, he might give some headaches to coach Jolas.

Thanks for bringing up this good news, I didn't know that Bollick was already signed by the NLEX, they really need someone like him who knows how to attack the basket. I think I'm going to be on the NLEX moneyline, they are 3.30 now, I'm sure they would be able to give the TNT a run for their money.

As my first game bet won, i will go for broke here lol, i will bet for NLEX ML @3.20 now. For sure Bollick will contribute huge to the offense of the Road Warriors and he will bring it all to prove that he is worthy of the NLEX management's trust on him.


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For the second game, i will go live betting as Bollick will be having his debut as a member of the Road Warriors, he might give some headaches to coach Jolas.

Thanks for bringing up this good news, I didn't know that Bollick was already signed by the NLEX, they really need someone like him who knows how to attack the basket. I think I'm going to be on the NLEX moneyline, they are 3.30 now, I'm sure they would be able to give the TNT a run for their money.

As my first game bet won, i will go for broke here lol, i will bet for NLEX ML @3.20 now. For sure Bollick will contribute huge to the offense of the Road Warriors and he will bring it all to prove that he is worthy of the NLEX management's trust on him.



I'm with you, good luck to us, In Bollick we trust.

I've check their past games and looks like there's nothing wrong with their import, he was contributing like a productive import, maybe the lacking was on the local support which not a problem now as Bollick is already here. Since Bollick is already accustomed to a high offense game, I think he is very fit with the NLEX.

Game will start in less than 5 minutes.

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