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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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June 26, 2022, 11:25:33 AM
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What a game by the TNT.

Mikey Williams contributed hugely in this game, Phoenix did win the 1st half but it was the TNT who dominated the 2nd half.
Williams scored 27 points on his first game this season if I'm not mistaken, he still hasn't change, he really is still a superstar.

He already made an adjustment last season and he dominated, so I would not be surprise if he wins the best player of the conference again with the way he is playing.

By the way, the 2nd game seemed not fun to watch if you are a fan of converge because SMB is clearly dominating them now and the lead could balloon to 20 points. SMB will win and they will have a major bounce back after a lose against the Ginebra.

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June 26, 2022, 11:29:52 AM
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What a game by the TNT.

Mikey Williams contributed hugely in this game, Phoenix did win the 1st half but it was the TNT who dominated the 2nd half.
Williams scored 27 points on his first game this season if I'm not mistaken, he still hasn't change, he really is still a superstar.

He already made an adjustment last season and he dominated, so I would not be surprise if he wins the best player of the conference again with the way he is playing.

By the way, the 2nd game seemed not fun to watch if you are a fan of converge because SMB is clearly dominating them now and the lead could balloon to 20 points. SMB will win and they will have a major bounce back after a lose against the Ginebra.
Too early to say to be the best player for this conference but its really possible especially if Williams will stay consistent and have this winning moment always. TNT is one of the big contender for this conference, I can see them playing in the semis. On the other hand, SMB have to bounce back and claim their win again, their last match against Ginebra is very close, unfortunately they failed to win but that's ok since all of the teams now have their own losses, SMB just need to bounce back to get back on track.

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June 26, 2022, 11:37:52 AM
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What a game by the TNT.

Mikey Williams contributed hugely in this game, Phoenix did win the 1st half but it was the TNT who dominated the 2nd half.
Williams scored 27 points on his first game this season if I'm not mistaken, he still hasn't change, he really is still a superstar.

He already made an adjustment last season and he dominated, so I would not be surprise if he wins the best player of the conference again with the way he is playing.

By the way, the 2nd game seemed not fun to watch if you are a fan of converge because SMB is clearly dominating them now and the lead could balloon to 20 points. SMB will win and they will have a major bounce back after a lose against the Ginebra.
Too early to say to be the best player for this conference but its really possible especially if Williams will stay consistent and have this winning moment always. TNT is one of the big contender for this conference, I can see them playing in the semis. On the other hand, SMB have to bounce back and claim their win again, their last match against Ginebra is very close, unfortunately they failed to win but that's ok since all of the teams now have their own losses, SMB just need to bounce back to get back on track.
They will bounce back as at some point they already lead 30 points in this game, no way converge will have a big run against a good team, I would say this game is already over as SMB will not allow to melt down in the 2nd half.
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June 26, 2022, 12:20:05 PM
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What a game by the TNT.

Mikey Williams contributed hugely in this game, Phoenix did win the 1st half but it was the TNT who dominated the 2nd half.
Williams scored 27 points on his first game this season if I'm not mistaken, he still hasn't change, he really is still a superstar.

He already made an adjustment last season and he dominated, so I would not be surprise if he wins the best player of the conference again with the way he is playing.

By the way, the 2nd game seemed not fun to watch if you are a fan of converge because SMB is clearly dominating them now and the lead could balloon to 20 points. SMB will win and they will have a major bounce back after a lose against the Ginebra.
Too early to say to be the best player for this conference but its really possible especially if Williams will stay consistent and have this winning moment always. TNT is one of the big contender for this conference, I can see them playing in the semis. On the other hand, SMB have to bounce back and claim their win again, their last match against Ginebra is very close, unfortunately they failed to win but that's ok since all of the teams now have their own losses, SMB just need to bounce back to get back on track.
They will bounce back as at some point they already lead 30 points in this game, no way converge will have a big run against a good team, I would say this game is already over as SMB will not allow to melt down in the 2nd half.

If you are correct then that is good for me as I bet on the SMB spread in this game. That 30 points lead is already gone but SMB is still having a very comfortable lead, SMB just owned the paint, and converge could only rely on their outside shooting, good thing some of the 3 point shots are falling and that make them compete a bit in the 2nd half.

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June 26, 2022, 05:27:42 PM
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What a game by the TNT.

Mikey Williams contributed hugely in this game, Phoenix did win the 1st half but it was the TNT who dominated the 2nd half.
Williams scored 27 points on his first game this season if I'm not mistaken, he still hasn't change, he really is still a superstar.

He already made an adjustment last season and he dominated, so I would not be surprise if he wins the best player of the conference again with the way he is playing.

By the way, the 2nd game seemed not fun to watch if you are a fan of converge because SMB is clearly dominating them now and the lead could balloon to 20 points. SMB will win and they will have a major bounce back after a lose against the Ginebra.
Too early to say to be the best player for this conference but its really possible especially if Williams will stay consistent and have this winning moment always. TNT is one of the big contender for this conference, I can see them playing in the semis. On the other hand, SMB have to bounce back and claim their win again, their last match against Ginebra is very close, unfortunately they failed to win but that's ok since all of the teams now have their own losses, SMB just need to bounce back to get back on track.

SMB is on top again tied with BGSM 4-1 stat after dominating the game against converge. Nothing can be done by converge as Fajardo and Tau really eating them inside while Cruz got a very decent shooting percentage today. SMB tower a big lead after the 1st half and continue to have a good ball rotations not allowing converge to come back.

Another week for PBA congrats to all the bettors who won today, especially to those who parlay both handicap and pick the favorites.

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June 27, 2022, 05:01:55 AM
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What a game by the TNT.

Mikey Williams contributed hugely in this game, Phoenix did win the 1st half but it was the TNT who dominated the 2nd half.
Williams scored 27 points on his first game this season if I'm not mistaken, he still hasn't change, he really is still a superstar.

He already made an adjustment last season and he dominated, so I would not be surprise if he wins the best player of the conference again with the way he is playing.

By the way, the 2nd game seemed not fun to watch if you are a fan of converge because SMB is clearly dominating them now and the lead could balloon to 20 points. SMB will win and they will have a major bounce back after a lose against the Ginebra.
Too early to say to be the best player for this conference but its really possible especially if Williams will stay consistent and have this winning moment always. TNT is one of the big contender for this conference, I can see them playing in the semis. On the other hand, SMB have to bounce back and claim their win again, their last match against Ginebra is very close, unfortunately they failed to win but that's ok since all of the teams now have their own losses, SMB just need to bounce back to get back on track.

SMB is on top again tied with BGSM 4-1 stat after dominating the game against converge. Nothing can be done by converge as Fajardo and Tau really eating them inside while Cruz got a very decent shooting percentage today. SMB tower a big lead after the 1st half and continue to have a good ball rotations not allowing converge to come back.

Another week for PBA congrats to all the bettors who won today, especially to those who parlay both handicap and pick the favorites.

SMB is very dominant inside but Ginebra knows how to limit Fajardo and if Fajardo is limited, that will affect the team's confidence to win the game. Actually, SMB's outside shooting was also clicking that game, especially Marcio who had some great contributions from the 3 point area.

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June 27, 2022, 05:51:10 AM
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Actually, SMB's outside shooting was also clicking that game, especially Marcio who had some great contributions from the 3 point area.

I saw the old Lassiter in that game, there was no hesitation from him and the shot was really accurate.

He had 12 points and he was 3 of 7 from outside.
However if you look at the stats, it was really the rebounding that made a big difference in this game, and it was dominated by the SMB.

SMB total rebounds was 62 and 21 of that are offensive rebounds, while Converge only has 32 rebounds, see the big difference.

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June 27, 2022, 11:19:41 AM
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Actually, SMB's outside shooting was also clicking that game, especially Marcio who had some great contributions from the 3 point area.

I saw the old Lassiter in that game, there was no hesitation from him and the shot was really accurate.

He had 12 points and he was 3 of 7 from outside.
However if you look at the stats, it was really the rebounding that made a big difference in this game, and it was dominated by the SMB.

SMB total rebounds was 62 and 21 of that are offensive rebounds, while Converge only has 32 rebounds, see the big difference.

But 12 points in a game is not like an old Lassiter.

Anyway, what's important is they bounced back after a loss and had a dominant win against the new team. Their rebounding prove that they are ready to dominate their opponent, so if JMF will play like during his MVP seasons, most likely SMB will get the championship this season.
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June 27, 2022, 11:32:27 AM
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Actually, SMB's outside shooting was also clicking that game, especially Marcio who had some great contributions from the 3 point area.

I saw the old Lassiter in that game, there was no hesitation from him and the shot was really accurate.

He had 12 points and he was 3 of 7 from outside.
However if you look at the stats, it was really the rebounding that made a big difference in this game, and it was dominated by the SMB.

SMB total rebounds was 62 and 21 of that are offensive rebounds, while Converge only has 32 rebounds, see the big difference.

But 12 points in a game is not like an old Lassiter.

Anyway, what's important is they bounced back after a loss and had a dominant win against the new team. Their rebounding prove that they are ready to dominate their opponent, so if JMF will play like during his MVP seasons, most likely SMB will get the championship this season.

Perhaps it was a good game for Lassiter, 12 points might be not that high, but showing some old form of himself.

They should really specially with JMF around, and yeah I would say they are pretty much stacked up. Maybe they will need to find a way to have the 'death five' again, but this time old faces and then new names for them.

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June 27, 2022, 02:19:45 PM
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Actually, SMB's outside shooting was also clicking that game, especially Marcio who had some great contributions from the 3 point area.

I saw the old Lassiter in that game, there was no hesitation from him and the shot was really accurate.

He had 12 points and he was 3 of 7 from outside.
However if you look at the stats, it was really the rebounding that made a big difference in this game, and it was dominated by the SMB.

SMB total rebounds was 62 and 21 of that are offensive rebounds, while Converge only has 32 rebounds, see the big difference.

Though Converge didn't offer much resistance in that game but it is still a very good game for Lassiter, that game might bring his confidence back and he will explode when their opponent is high-tier team like TNT or Meralco. He is not the old Lassiter that we know when he was in his 20s but at least before this conference ends we could see Lassiter back to his old form at least by 50 percent, that would be a great complement for Junemar.

The game last night was a tragedy for Converge as they don't only lose that game but they also lost some players to injury which was vital to their campaign this season, a big blow for them.
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June 27, 2022, 11:13:05 PM
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The game last night was a tragedy for Converge as they don't only lose that game but they also lost some players to injury which was vital to their campaign this season, a big blow for them.

3 players are now on their injury list.

Jeron Teng (Hip - 1 week now)
Justin Arana (Double sprain)
Kurt Lojera (Big lump below the eye)

I'm looking forward to this team reaching even the Quarterfinals but the road for them will be tough because of these injuries.

Maybe Lojera will just be out for several days and likey can play on their next game. But Teng needs to rehab for at least 2-3 weeks and Arana for about a week.

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June 27, 2022, 11:47:33 PM
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They should really specially with JMF around, and yeah I would say they are pretty much stacked up. Maybe they will need to find a way to have the 'death five' again, but this time old faces and then new names for them.

With a new name, agree. Death Five already established a good run in the league. Who will be the new death five?

Let's wait until all players in SMB return with a healthy status. But for me, I'd rather like to see another Death Five same performance talent on another team.

It's time now to have unusual teams in the Finals which will likely we will only see during the import conference.
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They should really specially with JMF around, and yeah I would say they are pretty much stacked up. Maybe they will need to find a way to have the 'death five' again, but this time old faces and then new names for them.

With a new name, agree. Death Five already established a good run in the league. Who will be the new death five?

Let's wait until all players in SMB return with a healthy status. But for me, I'd rather like to see another Death Five same performance talent on another team.

It's time now to have unusual teams in the Finals which will likely we will only see during the import conference.

It's healthier to the league if all the teams are well balance and not just the same familiar faces and teams that continue to be more dominant against their rivals, looking at the current standing seems still good for the market in terms of unpredicted outcome, but for sure things will remain the same once playoff starts to arrive, those quiet but also composed of good stars they will make a rally and regain the slots.

Let see if SMB or MVP will continue. Maybe this all-pilipino cup will surprise us. We can't conclude yet, too early for anyone to predict who's going to be in the finals.

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June 28, 2022, 12:05:29 PM
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They should really specially with JMF around, and yeah I would say they are pretty much stacked up. Maybe they will need to find a way to have the 'death five' again, but this time old faces and then new names for them.

With a new name, agree. Death Five already established a good run in the league. Who will be the new death five?

Let's wait until all players in SMB return with a healthy status. But for me, I'd rather like to see another Death Five same performance talent on another team.

It's time now to have unusual teams in the Finals which will likely we will only see during the import conference.

It's healthier to the league if all the teams are well balance and not just the same familiar faces and teams that continue to be more dominant against their rivals, looking at the current standing seems still good for the market in terms of unpredicted outcome, but for sure things will remain the same once playoff starts to arrive, those quiet but also composed of good stars they will make a rally and regain the slots.

Let see if SMB or MVP will continue. Maybe this all-pilipino cup will surprise us. We can't conclude yet, too early for anyone to predict who's going to be in the finals.

They have been doing that for many years, so I think that would not change, only the Cojuangco and Pangilinan teams will be in the finals most of the time, and the other teams are just farm teams, though it's not confirm but I strongly believe it's happening.
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June 28, 2022, 11:04:09 PM
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Guys, have you seen the bracketing on EASL? I think this is still on the topic since two teams will be from PBA, PBA-Phil Cup champ and PBA-Phil cup runner up. This is the bracketing.

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June 29, 2022, 10:47:14 AM
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Thanks @blockman for sharing, that seemed to be exciting to watch.

May I know when that league will start? Since the NBA season is still on going, so we cannot expect that anytime soon, that's why I like to know the scheduel of that game, and one most important thing, can we watch it through online streaming?
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June 29, 2022, 11:11:09 AM
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They have been doing that for many years, so I think that would not change, only the Cojuangco and Pangilinan teams will be in the finals most of the time, and the other teams are just farm teams, though it's not confirm but I strongly believe it's happening.

Sadly to say that it still running around the league both Cojuangco and Pangilinan corp are the dominating teams inside the league and your observation is mostly the same with other people who are still watching and supporting this league, PBA is more for these two giants they've always have the privileges and continue to enjoy that kind of treatment.

Other teams are inside to stay for advertisement, but in terms of winning the title, they are far away from winning a crown.

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June 29, 2022, 11:15:33 AM
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They have been doing that for many years, so I think that would not change, only the Cojuangco and Pangilinan teams will be in the finals most of the time, and the other teams are just farm teams, though it's not confirm but I strongly believe it's happening.

Sadly to say that it still running around the league both Cojuangco and Pangilinan corp are the dominating teams inside the league and your observation is mostly the same with other people who are still watching and supporting this league, PBA is more for these two giants they've always have the privileges and continue to enjoy that kind of treatment.

Other teams are inside to stay for advertisement, but in terms of winning the title, they are far away from winning a crown.
Yeah, seemed like we already know the possible winners in the PBA, but what is posted by blockman is good, that EASL league might be better than the PBA and we will see if the champion and runner in the PBA are really worthy to face other countries leagues. As to PBA, it's very sad that we cannot change what has been practice in centuries already.
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They have been doing that for many years, so I think that would not change, only the Cojuangco and Pangilinan teams will be in the finals most of the time, and the other teams are just farm teams, though it's not confirm but I strongly believe it's happening.

Sadly to say that it still running around the league both Cojuangco and Pangilinan corp are the dominating teams inside the league and your observation is mostly the same with other people who are still watching and supporting this league, PBA is more for these two giants they've always have the privileges and continue to enjoy that kind of treatment.

Other teams are inside to stay for advertisement, but in terms of winning the title, they are far away from winning a crown.
Yeah, seemed like we already know the possible winners in the PBA, but what is posted by blockman is good, that EASL league might be better than the PBA and we will see if the champion and runner in the PBA are really worthy to face other countries leagues. As to PBA, it's very sad that we cannot change what has been practice in centuries already.

I agree with that, another option and if bookies will add that options, there are many pinoy bettors that will add that league
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Thanks @blockman for sharing, that seemed to be exciting to watch.

May I know when that league will start? Since the NBA season is still on going, so we cannot expect that anytime soon, that's why I like to know the scheduel of that game, and one most important thing, can we watch it through online streaming?
You're welcome.
Our very own PBA will have to show them sometime that we're still the great league in the ASIA. Also, another thing that I've just known is that it is Ron Artest who's the EASL ambassador. He has also said that his son has a Filipino blood and would hopefully play for the Philippines if time allows it.

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