2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Questat]

The Road Warriors franchise is for sale, multiple sources told SPIN.ph.

Yes, saw this news a while ago.

According to @HomerSayson - The NLEX franchise is for sale as per his multiple sources.
According to @InsideThePBA - The NLEX franchise is NOT for sale as per one of the executives in the MVP Group. Homer is not credible, they add lol.

Either way, I don't mind that thing. It will open for a more independent team and that is what matters for a balanced league.

That will be the result, it will become a balanced league and not only the popular teams will be playing in the finals. Also, it will eliminate the rumors that some teams are just farm teams of the stronger teams, so overall it's good for the league.

I think we just have to wait for the announcement, but good thing there are rumors.

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[harizen]

I think we just have to wait for the announcement, but good thing there are rumors.

Honestly, if I will give my own opinion regarding that issue, I'm more of thinking that it was partially true.

Maybe NLEX is really up for sale but not official yet or still in consideration. Officially parting ways with Coach Yeng is the start. I can't think of a reason why NLEX will offer a corporate job for Coach Yeng with a decent salary instead of putting him in a much higher op that is still related to basketball operations of the team. It means they just want to assure that Coach Yeng will still have a decent job after selling NLEX but since Coach Yeng wants to continue his career in basketball, he rejected the NLEX offer even with a decent salary and choose to stay as a Head Coach.

Again, this is just my opinion.

[blockman]

I just wish him all the best with his career back to ROS and I guess he's got more control there than what he has left with NLEX.

Since Rain Or Shine has no sister teams, there should be no supposed hindrance on their future trades. I miss the strong ROS where in All-Filipino, they can compete competitively. It's good to see that Coach Yeng is again working in a team that has no sister teams. He is capable of extracting the very best of a certain player and can turned that into a good role player.

Although I think he is changed now and not that strict in practice. His bad mouthing for any errors that his players committed during the game is more of giving a determination rather than discouragement.

Coach Yeng is a veteran coach and just look how the ROS way back years ago when he is the coach at that time. ROS is going in the playoffs, and they are one of the strongest independent teams at that time. When he left, that's when the ROS crumble.

Looking at the roster of ROS right now, they don't have an all-star that can carry the team, but I believe like you do that he is capable in extracting the talents of these players. Players like Nambatac, Santillan and even Shaun Ildefonso. I believe that he can help these players unleash their full potential. I just hope that MVP or SMC will not milk ROS and will make unequal trades "again".

We've known Coach Yeng as a fierce coach. He is yelling at his players and spitting bad words to them in the court but outside, there are many players saying that he is the complete opposite.

When he was with ROS in the past, it was like the best days of it, and now that he's back. That's what he's going to do with ROS again. Yeng can maximize the players that he's got with ROS and if there are possible trades that will benefit his team, he'll do it for sure.
Those words that he spits out to his players are also like giving that sense of urgency to his players that they should do better than what they're showing to him.

[crzy]

On the other hand, it also gives a signal that PBA is not as popular as before anymore. Well, I like your idea because it will really make the league more competitive, no more sister teams, that would be nice as people will stop speculating that some games are fixed, or the league itself.

This is what I infer from this news/rumor as well. First, Alaska now Nlex is on sale. This is maybe a signal that profit from PBA is already weak, so they are selling their teams. They are also losing their stars to other leagues in the region. Are we seeing the start of the end of PBA as the top league in the Philippines? Hopefully not, most of us have grown up watching PBA. It is already a part of Filipino culture.

PBA will still be there, someone will buy that team if ever just like what happened to Alaska, if the rumor is true then we might be seeing new company to handle NLEX which I also think is a good one. Maybe the pandemic really hits them hard and that’s why they are losing much money on this one, we don’t know how they make money here but I believe PBA is still a good league maybe they just need to update some of the rules to stay active.

[dothebeats]

The Road Warriors franchise is for sale, multiple sources told SPIN.ph.

Yes, saw this news a while ago.

According to @HomerSayson - The NLEX franchise is for sale as per his multiple sources.
According to @InsideThePBA - The NLEX franchise is NOT for sale as per one of the executives in the MVP Group. Homer is not credible, they add lol.

Either way, I don't mind that thing. It will open for a more independent team and that is what matters for a balanced league.

Well if this evens out the supposed imbalance on teams in the league, I'm all for it. Perhaps one of the execs in the MVP group does not want to spill the news before they finalized a deal with some other organization interested in the team. That's what they always do in corporate: never divulge a potentially bad negative news before everything is already settled behind the scenes.

PBA will still be there, someone will buy that team if ever just like what happened to Alaska, if the rumor is true then we might be seeing new company to handle NLEX which I also think is a good one. Maybe the pandemic really hits them hard and that’s why they are losing much money on this one, we don’t know how they make money here but I believe PBA is still a good league maybe they just need to update some of the rules to stay active.

PBA viewership is still high, and the more teams a company has on the league, the more stake it has on the profit-sharing. Though it might be that MVP group wants to focus more on their other teams rather than maintain 3, and offload their personnel on that team to the two other teams to get better results.

[goinmerry]

Definitely, who would not want that to happen? For many decades, it's always been Cojuangco and Pangilinan who are controlling the PBA. Although they have their own board or management, but these two billionaires can always influence the management or the governor of the PBA.

But without these big companies, PBA can't stand alone. SMC and MVP companies are the most and biggest foundations of the league. Without their ability to pay a huge contract to sign good famous players, they might attract the viewers to watch the league.

Business as usual but we can't blame their dominance because they are willing to spend money on building a good team which they successfully achieved now. If only there are other big companies that can match their ability, then we can see a more independent big franchise. Alaska can be considered as big before but I think the pandemic hits them and one of the reasons why they sell their PBA rights.

[ultrloa]

Definitely, who would not want that to happen? For many decades, it's always been Cojuangco and Pangilinan who are controlling the PBA. Although they have their own board or management, but these two billionaires can always influence the management or the governor of the PBA.

But without these big companies, PBA can't stand alone. SMC and MVP companies are the most and biggest foundations of the league. Without their ability to pay a huge contract to sign good famous players, they might attract the viewers to watch the league.

This is the major loophole of the league since without these two big companies PBA will die since they are the one who's major contributor of the league so expect that commissioner or big bodies on the league cannot do anything once those companies target some good players outside or even on other team.

[agustina2]

This is the major loophole of the league since without these two big companies PBA will die since they are the one who's major contributor of the league so expect that commissioner or big bodies on the league cannot do anything once those companies target some good players outside or even on other team.

Because of that, we should hope that new big companies will soon join the PBA that can offer good salaries like San Miguel Corporation and MVP groups.

Adding to that, expect new rookies that will land on independent teams to be improved while they can and can become a rising stars and in the future, reach the All-Star or Superstar level. Not all good players can be signed to top companies. PBA is lacking good players, in general, that's why good talents are only limited to a few teams and are usually seen in top teams because of a much better contract offered by these companies.

[Questat]

This is the major loophole of the league since without these two big companies PBA will die since they are the one who's major contributor of the league so expect that commissioner or big bodies on the league cannot do anything once those companies target some good players outside or even on other team.

Because of that, we should hope that new big companies will soon join the PBA that can offer good salaries like San Miguel Corporation and MVP groups.

Adding to that, expect new rookies that will land on independent teams to be improved while they can and can become a rising stars and in the future, reach the All-Star or Superstar level. Not all good players can be signed to top companies. PBA is lacking good players, in general, that's why good talents are only limited to a few teams and are usually seen in top teams because of a much better contract offered by these companies.

That's up to the officials of the PBA, if they are willing to add more teams, that would be more exciting because I'm pretty sure many big companies will be interested to join, and at the same time, they'll be able to make PBA be the most entertaining basketball league in the Philippines.

Right now, looks like some leagues are getting some attention, it was supposed to be PBA getting most of the attention, I mean like 90%, but due to some speculation and a set up that has not been change, people are starting to look for other leagues.

[Fredomago]

This is the major loophole of the league since without these two big companies PBA will die since they are the one who's major contributor of the league so expect that commissioner or big bodies on the league cannot do anything once those companies target some good players outside or even on other team.

Because of that, we should hope that new big companies will soon join the PBA that can offer good salaries like San Miguel Corporation and MVP groups.

Adding to that, expect new rookies that will land on independent teams to be improved while they can and can become a rising stars and in the future, reach the All-Star or Superstar level. Not all good players can be signed to top companies. PBA is lacking good players, in general, that's why good talents are only limited to a few teams and are usually seen in top teams because of a much better contract offered by these companies.

And that's hopeless!   Remember chook's to go express their interest to join the league and to avoid that to happen Purefoods change their name to Magnolia Chicken Juicy or something that will directly compete with chooks so PBA didn't give them a chance to be part of this league where the chance of business collisions may take place.

Unlike before where Tanduay directly competes with Gins kings and Swift directly competes with purefoods, but now, after SMB and MVP bought those franchise the competition are only focusing with these two giant companies but in terms of business they are not competing with wide advertisement and exposure by using PBA as their channel to reach more fans and audiences.

[ultrloa]

This is the major loophole of the league since without these two big companies PBA will die since they are the one who's major contributor of the league so expect that commissioner or big bodies on the league cannot do anything once those companies target some good players outside or even on other team.

Because of that, we should hope that new big companies will soon join the PBA that can offer good salaries like San Miguel Corporation and MVP groups.

Adding to that, expect new rookies that will land on independent teams to be improved while they can and can become a rising stars and in the future, reach the All-Star or Superstar level. Not all good players can be signed to top companies. PBA is lacking good players, in general, that's why good talents are only limited to a few teams and are usually seen in top teams because of a much better contract offered by these companies.

And that's hopeless!   Remember chook's to go express their interest to join the league and to avoid that to happen Purefoods change their name to Magnolia Chicken Juicy or something that will directly compete with chooks so PBA didn't give them a chance to be part of this league where the chance of business collisions may take place.

Unlike before where Tanduay directly competes with Gins kings and Swift directly competes with purefoods, but now, after SMB and MVP bought those franchise the competition are only focusing with these two giant companies but in terms of business they are not competing with wide advertisement and exposure by using PBA as their channel to reach more fans and audiences.

PBA is huge business for those tycoons they market their own product and company as well they get huge amount of money in the league so there's no surprising about them blocking some companies who want to compete them in the league. And this is totally unfair since if the commissioner just allow those companies who got interest to join the league for sure the PBA will grow more and fans will love to see more teams compete on championship also I think the manipulation of certain teams will be lessen unto this. But unfortunately this will not gonna happen since it seems SMB owner and TNT owners holds the decision of the league and the commissioner cannot say anything against on their own will.

[blockman]

I've missed the whole thing about the news that the SBP was in the Senate for a hearing.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/panlilio-marcial-raise-overseas-poaching-concerns-to-senate/249824)
Have you seen this news guys? So, this is about the Gilas and PBA concerns.

[Questat]

I've missed the whole thing about the news that the SBP was in the Senate for a hearing.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/panlilio-marcial-raise-overseas-poaching-concerns-to-senate/249824)
Have you seen this news guys? So, this is about the Gilas and PBA concerns.

Actually we cannot expect to win in the international competition due to lack of chemistry, our players are getting offers from overseas with a high salary. What is happening here is that PBA has now become a farm team for overseas teams, sad, but that's the reality.

[bisdak40]

I've missed the whole thing about the news that the SBP was in the Senate for a hearing.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/panlilio-marcial-raise-overseas-poaching-concerns-to-senate/249824)
Have you seen this news guys? So, this is about the Gilas and PBA concerns.

Actually we cannot expect to win in the international competition due to lack of chemistry, our players are getting offers from overseas with a high salary. What is happening here is that PBA has now become a farm team for overseas teams, sad, but that's the reality.

This exodus of Filipino players abroad is a very complicated problem for the PBA because how can they match the offer of those players where only a handful of teams can even afford to pay decent wages to its players? They are asking the help of GAB so they have the intent to stop this exodus which for me is to stop their opportunity of earning a decent amount in a little time.

Is this the end of the PBA? Talented players are playing overseas and what is left for the draft are those in the second round of the draft so this means the talent level of the PBA is declining, not good considering that PBA is the oldest professional league in Asia.

[Fredomago]

This is the major loophole of the league since without these two big companies PBA will die since they are the one who's major contributor of the league so expect that commissioner or big bodies on the league cannot do anything once those companies target some good players outside or even on other team.

Because of that, we should hope that new big companies will soon join the PBA that can offer good salaries like San Miguel Corporation and MVP groups.

Adding to that, expect new rookies that will land on independent teams to be improved while they can and can become a rising stars and in the future, reach the All-Star or Superstar level. Not all good players can be signed to top companies. PBA is lacking good players, in general, that's why good talents are only limited to a few teams and are usually seen in top teams because of a much better contract offered by these companies.

And that's hopeless!   Remember chook's to go express their interest to join the league and to avoid that to happen Purefoods change their name to Magnolia Chicken Juicy or something that will directly compete with chooks so PBA didn't give them a chance to be part of this league where the chance of business collisions may take place.

Unlike before where Tanduay directly competes with Gins kings and Swift directly competes with purefoods, but now, after SMB and MVP bought those franchise the competition are only focusing with these two giant companies but in terms of business they are not competing with wide advertisement and exposure by using PBA as their channel to reach more fans and audiences.

PBA is huge business for those tycoons they market their own product and company as well they get huge amount of money in the league so there's no surprising about them blocking some companies who want to compete them in the league. And this is totally unfair since if the commissioner just allow those companies who got interest to join the league for sure the PBA will grow more and fans will love to see more teams compete on championship also I think the manipulation of certain teams will be lessen unto this. But unfortunately this will not gonna happen since it seems SMB owner and TNT owners holds the decision of the league and the commissioner cannot say anything against on their own will.

The Commissioner needs to stand with a new principle and not just being a puppet dummy of these two giant companies, if he will continue being afraid with what the bosses wants then nothing can be done for this league, along the way fans will continue to stop supporting this league and we know how lesser the fans now compared with the late 90s and early 2000 there are real rivalries where fans loves to cheers for their teams and favorite stars.

I've missed the whole thing about the news that the SBP was in the Senate for a hearing.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/panlilio-marcial-raise-overseas-poaching-concerns-to-senate/249824)
Have you seen this news guys? So, this is about the Gilas and PBA concerns.

Actually we cannot expect to win in the international competition due to lack of chemistry, our players are getting offers from overseas with a high salary. What is happening here is that PBA has now become a farm team for overseas teams, sad, but that's the reality.

This exodus of Filipino players abroad is a very complicated problem for the PBA because how can they match the offer of those players where only a handful of teams can even afford to pay decent wages to its players? They are asking the help of GAB so they have the intent to stop this exodus which for me is to stop their opportunity of earning a decent amount in a little time.

Is this the end of the PBA? Talented players are playing overseas and what is left for the draft are those in the second round of the draft so this means the talent level of the PBA is declining, not good considering that PBA is the oldest professional league in Asia.

I didn't watch or read the full articles about this senate hearing just some clips from the news, I'm just wondering why the senators are focusing with the players and the team owners but didn't tackle about the coach where pilipino fans are really voicing it out,.We have seen a lot of Senators during that gilas game against Saudi Arabia, the Boos for coach Choke should be the focus, not sure if this also been discuss during that meeting, I only heard about players moving overseas and if why PBA can't match the salary that overseas team offers to our local stars.

[Ziskinberg]

I've missed the whole thing about the news that the SBP was in the Senate for a hearing.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/panlilio-marcial-raise-overseas-poaching-concerns-to-senate/249824)
Have you seen this news guys? So, this is about the Gilas and PBA concerns.

Actually we cannot expect to win in the international competition due to lack of chemistry, our players are getting offers from overseas with a high salary. What is happening here is that PBA has now become a farm team for overseas teams, sad, but that's the reality.

This exodus of Filipino players abroad is a very complicated problem for the PBA because how can they match the offer of those players where only a handful of teams can even afford to pay decent wages to its players? They are asking the help of GAB so they have the intent to stop this exodus which for me is to stop their opportunity of earning a decent amount in a little time.

Is this the end of the PBA? Talented players are playing overseas and what is left for the draft are those in the second round of the draft so this means the talent level of the PBA is declining, not good considering that PBA is the oldest professional league in Asia.

PBA has a farm teams, now they have become a farm teams for overseas teams, big karma for them. Well, they cannot stop that unless players are given long term contract and will be sued if they will break the contract, maybe 5 years contract so players have no option but to stay.

[blockman]

I've missed the whole thing about the news that the SBP was in the Senate for a hearing.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/panlilio-marcial-raise-overseas-poaching-concerns-to-senate/249824)
Have you seen this news guys? So, this is about the Gilas and PBA concerns.

Actually we cannot expect to win in the international competition due to lack of chemistry, our players are getting offers from overseas with a high salary. What is happening here is that PBA has now become a farm team for overseas teams, sad, but that's the reality.

I can't blame those players that are being scouted by other leagues like B League because they're compensating well and the politics on the PBA is too much.
When Sen. Bong Go asked Kume to stop the PBA to give way for the pool of Gilas and players. Kume just answered that the team owners will be angry at him and he might lose his position as the commissioner. No love really for the national team.

[LogitechMouse]

I've missed the whole thing about the news that the SBP was in the Senate for a hearing.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/panlilio-marcial-raise-overseas-poaching-concerns-to-senate/249824)
Have you seen this news guys? So, this is about the Gilas and PBA concerns.

Players already know what is going in PBA that's why they are preferring to play outside PH.
In PBA, they might draft you but a contract? I don't think so. In PBA, if you are at the top of the draft pick and you are drafted on an independent team (most of the time, they are at the top), you will just be a trading piece for them so that MVP and SMC will do some unequal trades.

We can't blame the players especially those collegiate ones if they prefer playing abroad than in PH. Aside from the fact that they will have a higher salary there compared to PBA, the competition there is way better than in PBA. You will not see any team dominating the league for a very long time or you can't see 2 teams dominating the league.

Too much politics in the PBA, Comm. Willie is like a puppet to MVP and SMC and all of what is happening is in favor of them just like the recent 3-way trade between Blackwater, TNT and NLEX. This is the trade.
Blackwater will get Troy Rosario and Gab Banal
TNT will get Calvin Oftana and Raul Soyud
NLEX will get Brandon Ganuelas Rosser and Paul Desiderio (UFA).

Just look what the TNT and NLEX (sister teams) gave to Blackwater. Blackwater traded their top pick for Troy Rosario which is obviously an undersized big and a player who doesn't have any playing time with TNT. On the other hand, TNT got a rising superstar Oftana and a big which is Soyud. Nothing to say against NLEX because they gave up a future superstar for a possible superstar as well. The point is the trade isn't fair especially with TNT. Though this trade isn't still approved yet, I'm pretty sure that this will take place a few days before the Commissioner's Cup starts.

[Questat]

I've missed the whole thing about the news that the SBP was in the Senate for a hearing.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/panlilio-marcial-raise-overseas-poaching-concerns-to-senate/249824)
Have you seen this news guys? So, this is about the Gilas and PBA concerns.

Actually we cannot expect to win in the international competition due to lack of chemistry, our players are getting offers from overseas with a high salary. What is happening here is that PBA has now become a farm team for overseas teams, sad, but that's the reality.

I can't blame those players that are being scouted by other leagues like B League because they're compensating well and the politics on the PBA is too much.
When Sen. Bong Go asked Kume to stop the PBA to give way for the pool of Gilas and players. Kume just answered that the team owners will be angry at him and he might lose his position as the commissioner. No love really for the national team.

Not a good excuse, it only says that he is controlled by the team owners, yes, no love for our country as they cannot sacrifice for the country. Fans are not loving the action of the PBA, this league will become more boring if no changes will be made for improvement.

[Yamifoud]

Guys, I'm sure you are familiar with Rendon Labador, what do you think about him trying to get Pingris to play with him one on one? hehe.. it's a very popular topic now in the internet where some fans criticizing Rendon Labador for challenging the Sakuragi.