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September 15, 2022, 03:55:19 AM
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Guys, I'm sure you are familiar with Rendon Labador, what do you think about him trying to get Pingris to play with him one on one? hehe.. it's a very popular topic now in the internet where some fans criticizing Rendon Labador for challenging the Sakuragi.

-  Rendon labrador? it's just a lack of attention. It's also obvious that people are holding there just to make Pingris money. They know that Pingris is a popular name in the field of Basketball and has done something in this industry, while Rendon is nothing but pure brains.

Isn't it true that Pingris wants them to fight off camera, and as far as I know, the money that will be earned win or lose will go to charity, that's what Pingris known as "Sakuragi" wants? But Rendon didn't want it, so Pingris didn't pay attention anymore... Because he saw that the only thing Rendon stupid was after was money and views on social media and Pingris didn't want to just connect his name to him because of the popularity he has.

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September 15, 2022, 04:21:08 AM
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Guys, I'm sure you are familiar with Rendon Labador, what do you think about him trying to get Pingris to play with him one on one? hehe.. it's a very popular topic now in the internet where some fans criticizing Rendon Labador for challenging the Sakuragi.

I think he is just seeking attention and income from views in his youtube channel. Pingris will not take that bait. Pingris is wise enough not to be used for publicity.

But I think GACO returned the challenge to Rendon Labador with a bet of 10 Million peso. I have no idea yet if Labador is willing to take the challenge. I think the bet is too much for him.
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September 15, 2022, 06:45:13 AM
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Guys, I'm sure you are familiar with Rendon Labador, what do you think about him trying to get Pingris to play with him one on one? hehe.. it's a very popular topic now in the internet where some fans criticizing Rendon Labador for challenging the Sakuragi.

I think he is just seeking attention and income from views in his youtube channel. Pingris will not take that bait. Pingris is wise enough not to be used for publicity.

But I think GACO returned the challenge to Rendon Labador with a bet of 10 Million peso. I have no idea yet if Labador is willing to take the challenge. I think the bet is too much for him.

He wants Pingris, LOL.. and not only that, even the brother of Rendon is also joining the show, he is challenging the Beast for a two on two game.  Smiley
They're crazy, they know their capacity and they would really lose, so you are right, they are just seeking attention for views.
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September 15, 2022, 07:09:04 AM
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Guys, I'm sure you are familiar with Rendon Labador, what do you think about him trying to get Pingris to play with him one on one? hehe.. it's a very popular topic now in the internet where some fans criticizing Rendon Labador for challenging the Sakuragi.

I think he is just seeking attention and income from views in his youtube channel. Pingris will not take that bait. Pingris is wise enough not to be used for publicity.

But I think GACO returned the challenge to Rendon Labador with a bet of 10 Million peso. I have no idea yet if Labador is willing to take the challenge. I think the bet is too much for him.

He wants Pingris, LOL.. and not only that, even the brother of Rendon is also joining the show, he is challenging the Beast for a two on two game.  Smiley
They're crazy, they know their capacity and they would really lose, so you are right, they are just seeking attention for views.

We know that money is the only reason why the Rendon brothers are making noise on social media because that's where they make money, they are after a lot of views.

Some people have fought Rendon, just last year the so-called battle of the YouTubers, it was obvious that the only reason was money, so do I know if everything he did in the past was just scripted?

But this one from Pingris, he's going to die because he thinks he's famous and has done something in the PBA field, he can collect a lot of money, that's why he's disappointed because what Pingris' camp wants is no video camera, Rendon doesn't want it, so Pingris just ignores him AKA "SAKURAGI" of PBA.
 

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September 15, 2022, 10:14:47 AM
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Guys, I'm sure you are familiar with Rendon Labador, what do you think about him trying to get Pingris to play with him one on one? hehe.. it's a very popular topic now in the internet where some fans criticizing Rendon Labador for challenging the Sakuragi.

I think he is just seeking attention and income from views in his youtube channel. Pingris will not take that bait. Pingris is wise enough not to be used for publicity.

But I think GACO returned the challenge to Rendon Labador with a bet of 10 Million peso. I have no idea yet if Labador is willing to take the challenge. I think the bet is too much for him.

He wants Pingris, LOL.. and not only that, even the brother of Rendon is also joining the show, he is challenging the Beast for a two on two game.  Smiley
They're crazy, they know their capacity and they would really lose, so you are right, they are just seeking attention for views.

They know they can gain good cash and huge exposure if Pingris will bite their craziness and its good how Pingris deal with this situation since he show how Professional he is. And he don't have anything to prove as he is a legendary baller already which many filipino basketball fans know already, For sure we cannot see this fight to happen since this will be just a total circus since we already know who will win on this match up.

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September 15, 2022, 11:44:09 AM
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Guys, I'm sure you are familiar with Rendon Labador, what do you think about him trying to get Pingris to play with him one on one? hehe.. it's a very popular topic now in the internet where some fans criticizing Rendon Labador for challenging the Sakuragi.

I think he is just seeking attention and income from views in his youtube channel. Pingris will not take that bait. Pingris is wise enough not to be used for publicity.

But I think GACO returned the challenge to Rendon Labador with a bet of 10 Million peso. I have no idea yet if Labador is willing to take the challenge. I think the bet is too much for him.

He wants Pingris, LOL.. and not only that, even the brother of Rendon is also joining the show, he is challenging the Beast for a two on two game.  Smiley
They're crazy, they know their capacity and they would really lose, so you are right, they are just seeking attention for views.

They know they can gain good cash and huge exposure if Pingris will bite their craziness and its good how Pingris deal with this situation since he show how Professional he is. And he don't have anything to prove as he is a legendary baller already which many filipino basketball fans know already, For sure we cannot see this fight to happen since this will be just a total circus since we already know who will win on this match up.

Pingris will give him a chance but on one condition, it should be off cam, however, Rendon does not like it because he said he wants to show to the fans how he will beat Pingris. Clearly, he is just trying to be a clown here but he is successful of gaining the attention of the fans, most are hating him, but it's okay for him.
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September 15, 2022, 11:56:52 AM
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Guys, I'm sure you are familiar with Rendon Labador, what do you think about him trying to get Pingris to play with him one on one? hehe.. it's a very popular topic now in the internet where some fans criticizing Rendon Labador for challenging the Sakuragi.

Hahaha, this is a bit off topic but since it is the talk of the town since a former PBA star is involved then i think it is worth the discussion here.

From what i have learned, it was Pingris who challenged Rendon to a one on one basketball game because he was trying to defend coach Chot Reyes who was badly criticized by Rendon and the rest is history.

It is clear that Rendon is no match to Pingris if they play basketball but the money will flow in here because they are vloggers and we all know that Filipinos will go to that platform to witness them play if ever it will push through but i don't think it will because Pingris has been silent on this issue now.
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September 15, 2022, 12:07:50 PM
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Guys, I'm sure you are familiar with Rendon Labador, what do you think about him trying to get Pingris to play with him one on one? hehe.. it's a very popular topic now in the internet where some fans criticizing Rendon Labador for challenging the Sakuragi.

I think he is just seeking attention and income from views in his youtube channel. Pingris will not take that bait. Pingris is wise enough not to be used for publicity.

But I think GACO returned the challenge to Rendon Labador with a bet of 10 Million peso. I have no idea yet if Labador is willing to take the challenge. I think the bet is too much for him.

He wants Pingris, LOL.. and not only that, even the brother of Rendon is also joining the show, he is challenging the Beast for a two on two game.  Smiley
They're crazy, they know their capacity and they would really lose, so you are right, they are just seeking attention for views.

We know that money is the only reason why the Rendon brothers are making noise on social media because that's where they make money, they are after a lot of views.

Some people have fought Rendon, just last year the so-called battle of the YouTubers, it was obvious that the only reason was money, so do I know if everything he did in the past was just scripted?

But this one from Pingris, he's going to die because he thinks he's famous and has done something in the PBA field, he can collect a lot of money, that's why he's disappointed because what Pingris' camp wants is no video camera, Rendon doesn't want it, so Pingris just ignores him AKA "SAKURAGI" of PBA.
 

What's the sense of allowing him to video the game? I like how Ping handles this challenge; he knows that Rendon will just use him to gain more attention and more views, without any doubt he will just school this youtuber's. Ping is Ping he don't need anything to prove his skills in terms of basketball.

We should not allow this kind users/abusers to exist, let him cry out loud in his every social media post, If I were those former and current PBA stars i will not waste my time to talk or to create any reactions to stop this hypes.

They are just giving Rendon more exposures, and more money to collect out from the noise that he created after that challenge from Ping.

I respect Ping and his decision to only play the ball without any cameras.

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September 15, 2022, 01:54:27 PM
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Guys, I'm sure you are familiar with Rendon Labador, what do you think about him trying to get Pingris to play with him one on one? hehe.. it's a very popular topic now in the internet where some fans criticizing Rendon Labador for challenging the Sakuragi.

Hahaha, this is a bit off topic but since it is the talk of the town since a former PBA star is involved then i think it is worth the discussion here.

From what i have learned, it was Pingris who challenged Rendon to a one on one basketball game because he was trying to defend coach Chot Reyes who was badly criticized by Rendon and the rest is history.

It is clear that Rendon is no match to Pingris if they play basketball but the money will flow in here because they are vloggers and we all know that Filipinos will go to that platform to witness them play if ever it will push through but i don't think it will because Pingris has been silent on this issue now.

Yeah, saw this news about a couple of days ago hehehe, not sure where it steamed from, and from what I hear it's the other way around, it was Pingris who challenge this Rendon for a 1:1.

For sure though Rendon got the attention of Pingris and of course he made the attention of all Filipino basketball lovers and this is just for the hype on his side. But Pingris seems to be very serious and really wanted to play and with big money on the line.

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September 15, 2022, 03:36:27 PM
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Guys, I'm sure you are familiar with Rendon Labador, what do you think about him trying to get Pingris to play with him one on one? hehe.. it's a very popular topic now in the internet where some fans criticizing Rendon Labador for challenging the Sakuragi.

Hahaha, this is a bit off topic but since it is the talk of the town since a former PBA star is involved then i think it is worth the discussion here.

From what i have learned, it was Pingris who challenged Rendon to a one on one basketball game because he was trying to defend coach Chot Reyes who was badly criticized by Rendon and the rest is history.

It is clear that Rendon is no match to Pingris if they play basketball but the money will flow in here because they are vloggers and we all know that Filipinos will go to that platform to witness them play if ever it will push through but i don't think it will because Pingris has been silent on this issue now.

Yeah, saw this news about a couple of days ago hehehe, not sure where it steamed from, and from what I hear it's the other way around, it was Pingris who challenge this Rendon for a 1:1.

For sure though Rendon got the attention of Pingris and of course he made the attention of all Filipino basketball lovers and this is just for the hype on his side. But Pingris seems to be very serious and really wanted to play and with big money on the line.

Rendon only wants attention but based on what Pingris did, he really got the attention that he wants but got it in a bad way. Rendon has been really an attention seeker and have done it to lots of personalities but he deserves the shame that he got when he faced Pingris.
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I can't blame those players that are being scouted by other leagues like B League because they're compensating well and the politics on the PBA is too much.
When Sen. Bong Go asked Kume to stop the PBA to give way for the pool of Gilas and players. Kume just answered that the team owners will be angry at him and he might lose his position as the commissioner. No love really for the national team.

Not a good excuse, it only says that he is controlled by the team owners, yes, no love for our country as they cannot sacrifice for the country. Fans are not loving the action of the PBA, this league will become more boring if no changes will be made for improvement.
Well, what can we think of him? The same goes for A.Chua that has always been winning with the teams that they're incorporated.

Guys, I'm sure you are familiar with Rendon Labador, what do you think about him trying to get Pingris to play with him one on one? hehe.. it's a very popular topic now in the internet where some fans criticizing Rendon Labador for challenging the Sakuragi.
That's just clout chasing. There's no need for Pingris to get back on him. The Labador brothers are just chasing for the popularity of the ex-PBA players and they're making themselves feel that they should annoy them.

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September 16, 2022, 07:26:37 AM
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Well, what can we think of him? The same goes for A.Chua that has always been winning with the teams that they're incorporated.


Very vocal in front the media that they are willing to help and can send their players for the National but when the time comes, they didn't stop the game and continue for the finals, if only they allow Fajardo, Perez, Poguy and Erram. That 4 stars can help and make big damage in helping the National against Lebanon. Not here to bring back those past games, but I'm just trying to express my opinion with both Marcial and A.Chua. They don't have that commitment.

They are more on the business and how they can suck the money of those giant companies who are feeding them.

In our language "Mga asong amu-amuhan" nothing will be change if the commissioner and his boards are afraid. Maybe it's better for the government to takeover this league and bring the right balance.

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September 16, 2022, 01:07:38 PM
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I've missed the whole thing about the news that the SBP was in the Senate for a hearing.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/panlilio-marcial-raise-overseas-poaching-concerns-to-senate/249824)
Have you seen this news guys? So, this is about the Gilas and PBA concerns.

Actually we cannot expect to win in the international competition due to lack of chemistry, our players are getting offers from overseas with a high salary. What is happening here is that PBA has now become a farm team for overseas teams, sad, but that's the reality.
I can't blame those players that are being scouted by other leagues like B League because they're compensating well and the politics on the PBA is too much.
When Sen. Bong Go asked Kume to stop the PBA to give way for the pool of Gilas and players. Kume just answered that the team owners will be angry at him and he might lose his position as the commissioner. No love really for the national team.

Not a good excuse, it only says that he is controlled by the team owners, yes, no love for our country as they cannot sacrifice for the country. Fans are not loving the action of the PBA, this league will become more boring if no changes will be made for improvement.

Just my personal observation maybe they just letting gilas to go down so that there young stars will not get scouted by other League since if Gilas players will continue to show quality performance then chances that they will be pirated by overseas just like on B.league. PBA is already aware on this they already pointed out this problem and already goes on japan to have a meeting on B.league officials. But I doubt B.league official will listen to PBA governors since for sure they will just continue what they do as their own league grow more since Filipino fan base is huge.

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September 16, 2022, 09:08:14 PM
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Well, what can we think of him? The same goes for A.Chua that has always been winning with the teams that they're incorporated.

Very vocal in front the media that they are willing to help and can send their players for the National but when the time comes, they didn't stop the game and continue for the finals, if only they allow Fajardo, Perez, Poguy and Erram. That 4 stars can help and make big damage in helping the National against Lebanon. Not here to bring back those past games, but I'm just trying to express my opinion with both Marcial and A.Chua. They don't have that commitment.

They are more on the business and how they can suck the money of those giant companies who are feeding them.

In our language "Mga asong amu-amuhan" nothing will be change if the commissioner and his boards are afraid. Maybe it's better for the government to takeover this league and bring the right balance.
Nah, they've been called out in the senate for this and that's why they've been vocal. But honestly, all they're favoring are the huge and rich teams, especially with the trades. Well, they're worried now because too many players are playing now in B League and other leagues offshore as the player numbers are likely to deteriorate in the near future. Jay Washington who's even likely a veteran already has been offered to play in the B League and has got better pay than what he's receiving in the PBA. It's likely that B League is going to get and extract even veteran and retired PBA players soon.

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September 16, 2022, 09:17:17 PM
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Well, what can we think of him? The same goes for A.Chua that has always been winning with the teams that they're incorporated.

Very vocal in front the media that they are willing to help and can send their players for the National but when the time comes, they didn't stop the game and continue for the finals, if only they allow Fajardo, Perez, Poguy and Erram. That 4 stars can help and make big damage in helping the National against Lebanon. Not here to bring back those past games, but I'm just trying to express my opinion with both Marcial and A.Chua. They don't have that commitment.

They are more on the business and how they can suck the money of those giant companies who are feeding them.

In our language "Mga asong amu-amuhan" nothing will be change if the commissioner and his boards are afraid. Maybe it's better for the government to takeover this league and bring the right balance.
Nah, they've been called out in the senate for this and that's why they've been vocal. But honestly, all they're favoring are the huge and rich teams, especially with the trades. Well, they're worried now because too many players are playing now in B League and other leagues offshore as the player numbers are likely to deteriorate in the near future. Jay Washington who's even likely a veteran already has been offered to play in the B League and has got better pay than what he's receiving in the PBA. It's likely that B League is going to get and extract even veteran and retired PBA players soon.

With what is happening, PBA will surely find a way to make changes to improve the league, they might not be able to match the salary standards offered by B-League and other leagues overseas, but they have to find a way to make players stay by adding more teams to accommodate more players, that way we won't easily notice who leaves the PBA due to lots of good players still in the league.



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September 16, 2022, 09:19:08 PM
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With what is happening, PBA will surely find a way to make changes to improve the league, they might not be able to match the salary standards offered by B-League and other leagues overseas, but they have to find a way to make players stay by adding more teams to accommodate more players, that way we won't easily notice who leaves the PBA due to lots of good players still in the league.
Probably players are not just going abroad because of money, most probably they feel that the league make them feel more important and give a fair playing time for them. PBA should address this issue professionally but it looks like they didn’t care at all as long as the top teams still have their own key players. Most of the players going abroad didn’t play that much in PBA, they actually skip it and probably not scared about the sanction of PBA. If we really want them to stay, there should be rules to follow but then again, it’s the choice of the player to go abroad.

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September 16, 2022, 09:46:19 PM
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Nah, they've been called out in the senate for this and that's why they've been vocal. But honestly, all they're favoring are the huge and rich teams, especially with the trades. Well, they're worried now because too many players are playing now in B League and other leagues offshore as the player numbers are likely to deteriorate in the near future. Jay Washington who's even likely a veteran already has been offered to play in the B League and has got better pay than what he's receiving in the PBA. It's likely that B League is going to get and extract even veteran and retired PBA players soon.

With what is happening, PBA will surely find a way to make changes to improve the league, they might not be able to match the salary standards offered by B-League and other leagues overseas, but they have to find a way to make players stay by adding more teams to accommodate more players, that way we won't easily notice who leaves the PBA due to lots of good players still in the league.
They can't really match the salaries being offered in the other leagues because the cost of living there is different and we're on the lower part. That's why players that have been offered to play there have seen the opportunity that they'll never see in the PBA.
That one you've mentioned about adding team is one of it, it should be a regional additional and just like the other pro leagues in our country, they should do that so more fans and supports will get. But, I don't think they'll think about that, these commissioners are only thinking about themselves because they're paid well by the rich and farm teams in PBA.

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September 16, 2022, 10:21:34 PM
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With what is happening, PBA will surely find a way to make changes to improve the league, they might not be able to match the salary standards offered by B-League and other leagues overseas, but they have to find a way to make players stay by adding more teams to accommodate more players, that way we won't easily notice who leaves the PBA due to lots of good players still in the league.

That will not stop top cagers to play offshore though. You can add teams but what top player will play if they get better offer sheets from leagues abroad. Those teams will just be filled with mediocre players. Some will say that it is not all money but considering that athletes have expiry date on their productivity, most will choose to have higher pay even if they play abroad rather than in pba.

If we look on the positive side of it, our players get exposed to international experiences. They come back here a better player. We can always call them to play for gilas when the our country needs them.
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Nah, they've been called out in the senate for this and that's why they've been vocal. But honestly, all they're favoring are the huge and rich teams, especially with the trades. Well, they're worried now because too many players are playing now in B League and other leagues offshore as the player numbers are likely to deteriorate in the near future. Jay Washington who's even likely a veteran already has been offered to play in the B League and has got better pay than what he's receiving in the PBA. It's likely that B League is going to get and extract even veteran and retired PBA players soon.

With what is happening, PBA will surely find a way to make changes to improve the league, they might not be able to match the salary standards offered by B-League and other leagues overseas, but they have to find a way to make players stay by adding more teams to accommodate more players, that way we won't easily notice who leaves the PBA due to lots of good players still in the league.
They can't really match the salaries being offered in the other leagues because the cost of living there is different and we're on the lower part. That's why players that have been offered to play there have seen the opportunity that they'll never see in the PBA.
That one you've mentioned about adding team is one of it, it should be a regional additional and just like the other pro leagues in our country, they should do that so more fans and supports will get. But, I don't think they'll think about that, these commissioners are only thinking about themselves because they're paid well by the rich and farm teams in PBA.
Adding team in PBA is not easy, it cost a lot of money and right now it looks like PBA is just started to recover from the big drop that cause by pandemic so it's not profitable yet for PBA teams. Players going abroad is by their own choice, probably they will get more benefits when playing abroad and we cannot blame them if they accept he offer. What PBA needs to do is to focus on making the league better again, there's a lot of issues that they need to address PBA should start working on that.

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September 16, 2022, 10:24:23 PM
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PBA is already aware on this they already pointed out this problem and already goes on japan to have a meeting on B.league officials. But I doubt B.league official will listen to PBA governors since for sure they will just continue what they do as their own league grow more since Filipino fan base is huge.

The PBA delegation is not there to ask the B. League not to sign or limit hiring players under PBA. That was unprofessional and never it will be the priority of the PH delegations. They are there for partnerships like other Asian leagues are doing with their counterparts in different countries.

There are only 6 former PBA players that are currently in a contract with the Japan B League and only one of them breached the PBA contract and that is Kiefer Ravenam which is now settled. Other former PBA players there are not currently signed in a PBA team like Greg Slaughter who has a contract dispute with NorthPort and Matthew Wright with an ending contract with the Phoenix that's why it's just reasonable for them to accept the offer from B League.

It's not alarming that there are former PBA players in the Japan B League. What's the big issue here is, that it's more alarming that young potential players and prospects choose to play overseas compared to being drafted by the PBA.

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