2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Fredomago]

He is Liu Chuanxing, 7 foot 5 inches in height and he is there to make the life of June Mar miserable.

I do not think June Mar can totally stop this guy alone if he decides to impose his dominance in the paint. June mar will need help from his teammates to be able to stop this guy. Luckily, basketball is a team sport so June Mar will not have to do it alone.

I'm not going to buy the possibility that Fajardo will take the challenge or coach Leo will assign him I think it will be the import that will take this big center, SMB will not risk Fajardo he's not getting any younger maybe he will be assign to guard him but investment wise SMB will think for more years that Fajardo will be healthier instead of giving him that hard task.

That big man is not an ordinary big but he also have that fundamentals that will really be a pain in the ass whoever will take him, don't get me wrong but I'm all with the business so my personal take is for the future of SMB.

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[blockman]

Well, just like the comment that I've read before that he stopped watching PBA because he only sees two teams each time in the finals. It's either SMB or MVP that are going to lead to the finals and that's why it's no longer that reliable even if other teams are competitive as well. But due to the trades, they're making a strong team stronger because of that advantage of sister teams and farm teams trade.

Kind of comments that circulating around will push away other fans to watch and support this league, knowing only two companies that are enjoying the privileges. Nothing is impossible for these two rivals, business owners. Like what I've said before, the league official are not willing to listen with the people who keep on voicing their opinions about what is happening around.

Eventually we will see more and more social media post about it, and with the drama PBA's official are creating regarding to those potential talents to play overseas, they are just messing more.

It has become a business for the big companies that we always see in the finals. While the other teams, don't have the sense of urgency of winning a title because they're making money from the trades that these big companies are doing. That's why great talents from this league are going away abroad because it's no longer a competitive league and it's not healthy for them to stay.

Good thing the best teams in the PBA now have good competition with this team, we saw how dominant they were, I guess they'll be listed as heavy favorites in the bookies in every game. They are up against Northport next game this Saturday, so we should not miss this game.

Yeah, that's for sure. It'll be the favorite team from now on of how promising the roster of this guest team is.

[bisdak40]

He is Liu Chuanxing, 7 foot 5 inches in height and he is there to make the life of June Mar miserable.

I do not think June Mar can totally stop this guy alone if he decides to impose his dominance in the paint. June mar will need help from his teammates to be able to stop this guy. Luckily, basketball is a team sport so June Mar will not have to do it alone.

That would be a great matchup and for sure many fans are going too watch that when our very own Junemar Fajardo battles Liu Chuanxing. Offensively, Junemar will most likely struggle against this giant as we all know that he had problems operating inside the paint when his guard is taller than him, we have seen that when he is up against Slaughter but it is very interesting how he will adjust.

[LogitechMouse]

He is Liu Chuanxing, 7 foot 5 inches in height and he is there to make the life of June Mar miserable.

I do not think June Mar can totally stop this guy alone if he decides to impose his dominance in the paint. June mar will need help from his teammates to be able to stop this guy. Luckily, basketball is a team sport so June Mar will not have to do it alone.

I'm not going to buy the possibility that Fajardo will take the challenge or coach Leo will assign him I think it will be the import that will take this big center, SMB will not risk Fajardo he's not getting any younger maybe he will be assign to guard him but investment wise SMB will think for more years that Fajardo will be healthier instead of giving him that hard task.

That big man is not an ordinary big but he also have that fundamentals that will really be a pain in the ass whoever will take him, don't get me wrong but I'm all with the business so my personal take is for the future of SMB.

Their import is 6 foot 10 inches, and I don't know if he can defend that big alone so I guess Coach Leo will do the strategy that he already did against the TNT in the PH Cup.

I think he will play Robinson, Fajardo and Tautuaa more often. 2 of them will play at the same time if this Liu Chuanxing will play. Just basing on his stats in the first game, this big isn't their starting one and I guess he isn't that athletic but his presence in the paint will surely be a big factor.

June Mar alone can't stop him but with 2 guys and a good rotation, I think they can at least lessen his efficiency. With regards to Liu's defense, June Mar can shoot perimeter shots as well so I guess we will see JMF shooting more on the perimeter than in close range. Overall, it will be hard for SMB, but I think they can defeat the Dragons. Let's see in the future.

[arwin100]

He is Liu Chuanxing, 7 foot 5 inches in height and he is there to make the life of June Mar miserable.

I do not think June Mar can totally stop this guy alone if he decides to impose his dominance in the paint. June mar will need help from his teammates to be able to stop this guy. Luckily, basketball is a team sport so June Mar will not have to do it alone.

That would be a great matchup and for sure many fans are going too watch that when our very own Junemar Fajardo battles Liu Chuanxing. Offensively, Junemar will most likely struggle against this giant as we all know that he had problems operating inside the paint when his guard is taller than him, we have seen that when he is up against Slaughter but it is very interesting how he will adjust.

This is a huge test for Junemar to show his capabilities on more bigger opponent since if he can dominate that tall guy and his team can able to win then provably they will get all the praise coming from PBA fans. Although this is a tough match up to them but for sure they will be more challenge on this since this will totally give them good experience as a team.

[Baofeng]

He is Liu Chuanxing, 7 foot 5 inches in height and he is there to make the life of June Mar miserable.

I do not think June Mar can totally stop this guy alone if he decides to impose his dominance in the paint. June mar will need help from his teammates to be able to stop this guy. Luckily, basketball is a team sport so June Mar will not have to do it alone.

That would be a great matchup and for sure many fans are going too watch that when our very own Junemar Fajardo battles Liu Chuanxing. Offensively, Junemar will most likely struggle against this giant as we all know that he had problems operating inside the paint when his guard is taller than him, we have seen that when he is up against Slaughter but it is very interesting how he will adjust.

I do agree, it will be a big test for JunMar to play against the giant. Not just him to be fair though, every team will be a nightmare match up for this behemoth.

But we will see how good JunMar really is, if he can score at low post or battle him out in the boards. And if will just show how our locals will do because we haven't seen someone as big as Liu in our league.

[Questat]

He is Liu Chuanxing, 7 foot 5 inches in height and he is there to make the life of June Mar miserable.

I do not think June Mar can totally stop this guy alone if he decides to impose his dominance in the paint. June mar will need help from his teammates to be able to stop this guy. Luckily, basketball is a team sport so June Mar will not have to do it alone.

That would be a great matchup and for sure many fans are going too watch that when our very own Junemar Fajardo battles Liu Chuanxing. Offensively, Junemar will most likely struggle against this giant as we all know that he had problems operating inside the paint when his guard is taller than him, we have seen that when he is up against Slaughter but it is very interesting how he will adjust.

I do agree, it will be a big test for JunMar to play against the giant. Not just him to be fair though, every team will be a nightmare match up for this behemoth.

But we will see how good JunMar really is, if he can score at low post or battle him out in the boards. And if will just show how our locals will do because we haven't seen someone as big as Liu in our league.

Junemar is no doubt the best player in the PBA, but now, he has a bigger opponent, I think younger than him and maybe stronger than him, I don't want to speculate so much as I think he will give this giant a good challenge, and who knows, SMB might bet this good team.

[Oasisman]

Junemar is no doubt the best player in the PBA, but now, he has a bigger opponent, I think younger than him and maybe stronger than him, I don't want to speculate so much as I think he will give this giant a good challenge, and who knows, SMB might bet this good team.

Not a fan of PBA, but yeah I've heard of the Chinese giant guest team participating in the Philippine basketball league. This will literally give the PBA teams the chance to improve themselves as they have been restricting heights from the imports. No wonder good players were leaving the league and play overseas, because it can give them better career, league opponents, and high salary of course compared to PBA.
It feels like when you're in the PBA and you dominate the league, then that's your limit you don't necessary need to improve yourself. I can see the same teams competing in the finals every year.

[jakelyson]

He is Liu Chuanxing, 7 foot 5 inches in height and he is there to make the life of June Mar miserable.

I do not think June Mar can totally stop this guy alone if he decides to impose his dominance in the paint. June mar will need help from his teammates to be able to stop this guy. Luckily, basketball is a team sport so June Mar will not have to do it alone.

That would be a great matchup and for sure many fans are going too watch that when our very own Junemar Fajardo battles Liu Chuanxing. Offensively, Junemar will most likely struggle against this giant as we all know that he had problems operating inside the paint when his guard is taller than him, we have seen that when he is up against Slaughter but it is very interesting how he will adjust.

I do agree, it will be a big test for JunMar to play against the giant. Not just him to be fair though, every team will be a nightmare match up for this behemoth.

But we will see how good JunMar really is, if he can score at low post or battle him out in the boards. And if will just show how our locals will do because we haven't seen someone as big as Liu in our league.

It will be hard to control that giant alone since no one in PBA can match him. It will be a team effort to take him on.

It will be really hard to deal with Bay Area Dragons since Liu is not even their main man. I think Powell will deliver more damage to their opponents. He is fast and can drive to the basket and shoot. There are other players too that could shoot from 3. Opponent teams cannot just focus on Liu since they can just kick the ball out for 3. And if they guard outside, Liu will dominate them from the paint.

It will give great headaches to the head coach of their opponents how they will deal with this team.

[Questat]

Junemar is no doubt the best player in the PBA, but now, he has a bigger opponent, I think younger than him and maybe stronger than him, I don't want to speculate so much as I think he will give this giant a good challenge, and who knows, SMB might bet this good team.

Not a fan of PBA, but yeah I've heard of the Chinese giant guest team participating in the Philippine basketball league. This will literally give the PBA teams the chance to improve themselves as they have been restricting heights from the imports. No wonder good players were leaving the league and play overseas, because it can give them better career, league opponents, and high salary of course compared to PBA.
It feels like when you're in the PBA and you dominate the league, then that's your limit you don't necessary need to improve yourself. I can see the same teams competing in the finals every year.

The number reason is the high salary, the better competitiveness is only the 2nd because PBA is very competitive as well. Well, this guess team is just very dominant, they beat the Blackwater the other day with a huge margin, they really look good, so let's see if they can do it again.

[Fredomago]

He is Liu Chuanxing, 7 foot 5 inches in height and he is there to make the life of June Mar miserable.

I do not think June Mar can totally stop this guy alone if he decides to impose his dominance in the paint. June mar will need help from his teammates to be able to stop this guy. Luckily, basketball is a team sport so June Mar will not have to do it alone.

I'm not going to buy the possibility that Fajardo will take the challenge or coach Leo will assign him I think it will be the import that will take this big center, SMB will not risk Fajardo he's not getting any younger maybe he will be assign to guard him but investment wise SMB will think for more years that Fajardo will be healthier instead of giving him that hard task.

That big man is not an ordinary big but he also have that fundamentals that will really be a pain in the ass whoever will take him, don't get me wrong but I'm all with the business so my personal take is for the future of SMB.

Their import is 6 foot 10 inches, and I don't know if he can defend that big alone so I guess Coach Leo will do the strategy that he already did against the TNT in the PH Cup.

I think he will play Robinson, Fajardo and Tautuaa more often. 2 of them will play at the same time if this Liu Chuanxing will play. Just basing on his stats in the first game, this big isn't their starting one and I guess he isn't that athletic but his presence in the paint will surely be a big factor.

June Mar alone can't stop him but with 2 guys and a good rotation, I think they can at least lessen his efficiency. With regards to Liu's defense, June Mar can shoot perimeter shots as well so I guess we will see JMF shooting more on the perimeter than in close range. Overall, it will be hard for SMB, but I think they can defeat the Dragons. Let's see in the future.

I can agree with you, SMB have enough big man to help Fajardo knowing coach Leo he will rotate and play his card wisely, though they've got enough arsenal to go to war against any teams and with that last season performances that we saw from the entire team it's not just Fajardo who's playing well but the chemistry of the entire teams are already established.

With the guest team and the trades that take place, we might see some good twist around.

Though still the dominance of those big companies is still present, but who knows, maybe surprise and upset may happen from independent teams.

[Yamifoud]

With the guest team and the trades that take place, we might see some good twist around.

The good twist would only happen on the big teams like the SMB and Pangilinan teams, others are just farm teams.

Though still the dominance of those big companies is still present, but who knows, maybe surprise and upset may happen from independent teams.

I like to see that surprise you are talking, this guess team has not face TNT, SMB, and Ginebra, maybe we can see a real competition as these teams have good imports and local players as well.

[Sanitough]

Coach Yeng debut as a new head coach of ROS has been ruined by his previous team. 

IIRC, NLEX were +8.5 underdog, but it turns out they are the better team in this game.
Big game for their import, and the locals have contributed as well.

[Japinat]

Coach Yeng debut as a new head coach of ROS has been ruined by his previous team. 

IIRC, NLEX were +8.5 underdog, but it turns out they are the better team in this game.
Big game for their import, and the locals have contributed as well.

I'm wondering what was the moneyline for NLEX? It's probably one of the best upset that happen this commissioner's cup so far, with a good import, even an average team could pull up a surprise, so we are now in an unpredictable conference.

Tomorrow we have two games.

1- Northport vs Bay Area Dragons.
2- Phoenix vs Bossing.

[Shamm]

With the guest team and the trades that take place, we might see some good twist around.

The good twist would only happen on the big teams like the SMB and Pangilinan teams, others are just farm teams.

Though still the dominance of those big companies is still present, but who knows, maybe surprise and upset may happen from independent teams.

I like to see that surprise you are talking, this guess team has not face TNT, SMB, and Ginebra, maybe we can see a real competition as these teams have good imports and local players as well.

Yes you are right that mate and for sure if the guess team will face Meralco, TNT, SMB Ginebra, and Magnolia then we can see a good matchup because our local team's will not letting the guess team will overtake them. But honestly if the play of Bay Area Dragons is like the way they play in their first match then all I can say is that it's a big challenge for our local team's to defeat our guess team.

[Fredomago]

Coach Yeng debut as a new head coach of ROS has been ruined by his previous team. 

IIRC, NLEX were +8.5 underdog, but it turns out they are the better team in this game.
Big game for their import, and the locals have contributed as well.

All the locals are contributing that's how the game being played, I was also in the impressions that RoS can easily win the game as they started it strong but coming 2nd half the explosions of Alas, Go and Nieto from the 3 point area gives them a boosting leads, then Clark start to work and create plays that makes them on top.

very low performances by the RoS after the first half. They've been outscored double digits and they are unable to rally back.

First game and there are lots of adjustment coach Yeng needs. Talent wise they are not that very competitive.

[bisdak40]

Coach Yeng debut as a new head coach of ROS has been ruined by his previous team. 

IIRC, NLEX were +8.5 underdog, but it turns out they are the better team in this game.
Big game for their import, and the locals have contributed as well.

That is why it is good to bet for the underdogs in the PBA in the first few games since the opening of the conference because games are unpredictable and the odds for the underdogs are a little bit attractive, not too attractive because as I observed it is often pegged from 2.8x to 3.3x usually hehe.

Have you guys noticed that there's almost no crowd watching live games in the PBA now? Too bad since its rival MPBL is jam-packed every game as i noticed, if this will continue i think the PBA will be disbanded.

[blockman]

It will be hard to control that giant alone since no one in PBA can match him. It will be a team effort to take him on.

It is anticipated by Dragons that the next teams will double team Liu but, there will be one that's going to be free, and that for sure is a shooter. These teams should look at how most of them are shooters and if they're going to focus on Liu, there will be an opening for those players that are ignored.
It's really hard to think of how to beat Dragons and next is with Northport later, let's see on how they're going to at least stop them although many expects that it's a win already for the Dragons.

[goaldigger]

It will be hard to control that giant alone since no one in PBA can match him. It will be a team effort to take him on.

It is anticipated by Dragons that the next teams will double team Liu but, there will be one that's going to be free, and that for sure is a shooter. These teams should look at how most of them are shooters and if they're going to focus on Liu, there will be an opening for those players that are ignored.
It's really hard to think of how to beat Dragons and next is with Northport later, let's see on how they're going to at least stop them although many expects that it's a win already for the Dragons.

Local teams have to deal with it and I’m sure Dragons are well prepared for this. They are big but of course can still lose by other teams. That might be a huge challenge for Northport so better for them to be ready as well. It’s exciting to see foreign teams executing their best plays, I hope that local teams will learn from it and take this opportunity to be better. Let’s see who will be the first team to beat Bay Area.

[blockman]

It will be hard to control that giant alone since no one in PBA can match him. It will be a team effort to take him on.

It is anticipated by Dragons that the next teams will double team Liu but, there will be one that's going to be free, and that for sure is a shooter. These teams should look at how most of them are shooters and if they're going to focus on Liu, there will be an opening for those players that are ignored.
It's really hard to think of how to beat Dragons and next is with Northport later, let's see on how they're going to at least stop them although many expects that it's a win already for the Dragons.

Local teams have to deal with it and I’m sure Dragons are well prepared for this. They are big but of course can still lose by other teams. That might be a huge challenge for Northport so better for them to be ready as well. It’s exciting to see foreign teams executing their best plays, I hope that local teams will learn from it and take this opportunity to be better. Let’s see who will be the first team to beat Bay Area.

Yes, they're all well prepared but I don't know about the others. They have some practice games too but it's entirely different from what the Bay Area Dragons have done and planned for.
It's a sure thing that most local teams will learn from this and will start to upgrade their play style, they just can't stay to that PBA style forever. And I'm also sure that the PBA management is starting to learn from this.