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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (23.6%)
Real Madrid - 83 (67.5%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 9 (7.3%)
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June 22, 2023, 10:55:03 AM
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There is nothing too special about Barcelona, ATM and Madrid in Laliga.  The difference between them and other clubs is money.
Money is important in football but it is not all. Like you can see difference between Manchester City and PSG as they are both very rich clubs and spent a lot of money in the last 10 or 15 years. They have different achievements so far and Manchester City are more successful than PSG because their development strategy is better than PSG.

Big clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona and ATM have another strength, their confidence in their strength and it can help them to solve some matches when they don't play better then their oppositions.

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Manchester city used to be an average club till money was pumped into the club. We all have seen their success.
They are consistent doing their good strategy and big achievement like the past season just needs time to come.

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Newcastle used to be a small club but today they are in the European champions league. Just have the money and be willing to spend it wisely
Newcastle got a successful season but they must to prove more. If in this summer, they do good transfers and continue to play well in a new season, they will become a very significant competitors to traditional big clubs in Premier League like Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur.

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June 22, 2023, 11:25:36 AM
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With Manchester city signing Kovacic from Chelsea; i do not think they expect Gundogan to stay. Its been over a year dragging contract terms and they have been unable to reach an agreement. I hope Barcelona are able to manage Gundogan injury crisis just like Manchester city did or it would be a wrong transfer for the club.

Right profile for barcelona? yes of course. Would he fit into the barcelona team? time will tell
Without injury, Gundogan is a very good player for the team and if Barcelona are able to get this Gundogan to be placed into the team next season, I think it will be very good for Barcelona because considering Barcelona are in need of great players to support their increase in performance at Next season. After all, Manchester City also has more powerful players at the moment so Manchester City still has the best choice even though they will also bring in new players to their team for next season.

Gundogan is one of Manchester City's best players, and I think he'll perform admirably in Barcelona next season. Barcelona will be playing in the champions league, so I think they'll meet there with Manchester city, and it'll be exciting to witness the match. In my opinion, Barcelona is about to acquire a better team that will be able to defeat anything in the upcoming season.
Barcelona has won the Champions League for some time now, therefore I believe they will do everything in their power to win LA Liga and the Champions League the next season. In my opinion, the other teams should prepare to play intelligently against Barcelona.

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June 22, 2023, 11:28:14 AM
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Money is important in football but it is not all. Like you can see difference between Manchester City and PSG as they are both very rich clubs and spent a lot of money in the last 10 or 15 years. They have different achievements so far and Manchester City are more successful than PSG because their development strategy is better than PSG.

Big clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona and ATM have another strength, their confidence in their strength and it can help them to solve some matches when they don't play better then their oppositions.



But that sounds a bit like a thing from the past. Barcelona and Atletico Madrid didn't do very well and are playing far below their best levels. Real Madrid set extremely high standards when they won the Champions League that often, so it wouldn't be fair to judge them by winning the Champions League only. But despite winning the Copa they also played a pretty bad season. A few young players are on the rise and they could need one of those extra class attackers. Modric and Kroos will stay for one more year, but I don't think that is enough to freeze their competitors in fear. Manchester City overwhelmed them. The confidence these teams were about took some damage.  
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June 22, 2023, 11:36:37 AM
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If we are taking about other teams chances to dethrone Real , Barca or ATM from top 3 , that should be Valencia at some point. They have been trying for a couple years right now to rebuild from ground , mix experienced players with younger talents in order to grow confidence and develop their skills but never had a real chance during the season to put all this in their favor and all went wrong for them with almost being relegated into LaLiga2.

I had my bet on Betis to finish top 3 in LaLiga and I was close but this year Valencia should be the next big team that will climb in top 4 if they won't do stupid mistakes like last 2 years when they trade offensive style for defensive style and nothing good came out of it as their locker room is stacked with offensive player with big potential.

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June 22, 2023, 12:58:35 PM
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Unfortunately, Barcelona have agreed deal with Ilkay Gundogan as free transfer and get two years contract with one years option extend, seems unbelievable how Barcelona success sign the Manchester City's treble winning player in this season. Barcelona won't left with Real Madrid after success signing young potential player Jude Bellingham and arrived Ilkay Gundogan give many option for Barcelona tactician Xavi Hernandez having four top midfielder from Pedri, Gavi, Luuk de Jong and Ilkay Gundogan.

I had my bet on Betis to finish top 3 in LaLiga and I was close but this year Valencia should be the next big team that will climb in top 4 if they won't do stupid mistakes like last 2 years when they trade offensive style for defensive style and nothing good came out of it as their locker room is stacked with offensive player with big potential.
Looks not sure with your predicting, the big four of La Liga next season seems dominance by Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid and last Champion League spot between Real Sociedad or Sevilla. In this season, Real Betis finish on 6th standings and seems not change for next season with their position standings finish.

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June 22, 2023, 01:26:57 PM
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With Manchester city signing Kovacic from Chelsea; i do not think they expect Gundogan to stay. Its been over a year dragging contract terms and they have been unable to reach an agreement. I hope Barcelona are able to manage Gundogan injury crisis just like Manchester city did or it would be a wrong transfer for the club.

Right profile for barcelona? yes of course. Would he fit into the barcelona team? time will tell
Without injury, Gundogan is a very good player for the team and if Barcelona are able to get this Gundogan to be placed into the team next season, I think it will be very good for Barcelona because considering Barcelona are in need of great players to support their increase in performance at Next season. After all, Manchester City also has more powerful players at the moment so Manchester City still has the best choice even though they will also bring in new players to their team for next season.
Actually Ilkay Gundogan I think would really fit in at Barcelona. Because in a fit condition Gundogan can really help become a midfielder as well as an attack line. Even when Gundogan has the chance he very rarely fails to capitalize on the opportunities he gets. Even if he is a striker I think he can be a goalscoring machine like Haaland. But the most suitable position for Gundogan remains in midfield to help the front line and also help the back line. midfield position plays an important role in the overall balance of the game on a team. And Gundogan has sufficient skills and experience for this. I think Barcelona will not let us down this season in the Champions League.
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June 22, 2023, 01:45:07 PM
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The schedule of La Liga games has already been released, the 3 teams that are always in the whole will have very easy games on paper, for example:

August 13th:

Atletico Madrid - Granada

looking at the performance of atlético madrid last season, i see that this will be a game in which they will be able to leave with some point, 1 or 3 points they will guarantee in this game.

getafe - barcelona

also looking at the excellent performance of barcelona last season that led them to become champions, and this season they are improving their squad even more, i see barcelona winning this game and getting 3 points

Ath bilbao - real madrid

without benzema and playing away from home, it will be a very difficult game for real madrid to win, it is not yet known to what extent the new player who came to replace benzema will be useful or not, but that is something we will see in the games friendlies that real madrid will make, according to google real madrid will have the friendlies with the following teams

milan on the 23rd of july; manchester united on the 27th of july, barcelona on the 29th of july; juventus on the 2nd of August.

They are good teams and there is no doubt that it will be a good thing to follow these friendlies to see how far Real Madrid will manage without Benzema. anyway it will be a very difficult season for real madrid if the new players don't play well, i also want to see how barcelona will do in the friendlies

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June 22, 2023, 02:03:21 PM
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It has been confirmed that Ilkay Gündogan will go to Barcelona with a two-year contract and the possibility of an extension in the future, Barcelona seems to be very aggressive in bringing in this player because his free agent status will not make Barca spend transfer funds.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1671558716594745345
With an initial two year contract and the possibility of an extension, I think he will end his career at this club very well, he has the ability to contribute and adapt quickly to new club, so seeing him directly in the starting XI at the start of the season will be possible.
Ilkay Gündogan is making a lot of sacrifice just to be at Barcelona. It is my sincere wish that it is worth it and that he won't regret the huge money he gave up to at Saudi Arabia just to be Barca. Another expectation which I have for him is that he remains in form. I also wish to see Xavi do a beautiful work with him in managing this huge insanely talented footballer. Guardiola has given positive feedback about this player - he's ability to play multiple positions and he looks to me as the perfect team player. At the end of his time at Barca. i would love to hear Xavi say the same thing too about him.

Great midfielder, the numbers and creativity on the pitch would speak for him, disciplined player, technically, smart and a modern player all of the top sides would want to join em if not for his age.
Money is not everything for every player, infact Barcelona deserves such a player and Gundogan also deserves representing Barcelona.

Xavi still needs a replacement for Sergio Busquet, he's not recruited a player for that position and also Gundogan won't be a great fit for that position if he was bought to replace Busquet. The name Joshua Kimmich have been mentioned severally, but the player have no plans and intentions to move to Barcelona.

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It has been confirmed that Ilkay Gündogan will go to Barcelona with a two-year contract and the possibility of an extension in the future, Barcelona seems to be very aggressive in bringing in this player because his free agent status will not make Barca spend transfer funds.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1671558716594745345
With an initial two year contract and the possibility of an extension, I think he will end his career at this club very well, he has the ability to contribute and adapt quickly to new club, so seeing him directly in the starting XI at the start of the season will be possible.
Ilkay Gündogan is making a lot of sacrifice just to be at Barcelona. It is my sincere wish that it is worth it and that he won't regret the huge money he gave up to at Saudi Arabia just to be Barca. Another expectation which I have for him is that he remains in form. I also wish to see Xavi do a beautiful work with him in managing this huge insanely talented footballer. Guardiola has given positive feedback about this player - he's ability to play multiple positions and he looks to me as the perfect team player. At the end of his time at Barca. i would love to hear Xavi say the same thing too about him.

Great midfielder, the numbers and creativity on the pitch would speak for him, disciplined player, technically, smart and a modern player all of the top sides would want to join em if not for his age.
Money is not everything for every player, infact Barcelona deserves such a player and Gundogan also deserves representing Barcelona.

Xavi still needs a replacement for Sergio Busquet, he's not recruited a player for that position and also Gundogan won't be a great fit for that position if he was bought to replace Busquet. The name Joshua Kimmich have been mentioned severally, but the player have no plans and intentions to move to Barcelona.

It seems that Barcelona is always lucky to bring in great players even though they are already +30 but their abilities are still very much needed. Last season Barcelona got a player like Lewandowski and some younger players and now, Barcelona got Gundogan at least in an easy way too. With a transfer like this, I personally believe that next season Barcelona can still dominate La Liga. But interestingly, whether the presence of Gundogan can make Barcelona's performance better in the Champions League, of course it will be an interesting thing to look forward to.

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Great midfielder, the numbers and creativity on the pitch would speak for him, disciplined player, technically, smart and a modern player all of the top sides would want to join em if not for his age.
Money is not everything for every player, infact Barcelona deserves such a player and Gundogan also deserves representing Barcelona.

Every team will be interested in a player who possesses many talents and is capable of performing effectively in a variety of positions, according to Gundogan. I was surprised to see the player put his career before of money and sign with Barcelona. With his potential, I believe he will perform better there, and once Manchester City has won the Champions League, it will be time for him to transfer his experience to another team. And one thing I appreciate about Manchester City is how they develop talented players.


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Xavi still needs a replacement for Sergio Busquet, he's not recruited a player for that position and also Gundogan won't be a great fit for that position if he was bought to replace Busquet. The name Joshua Kimmich have been mentioned severally, but the player have no plans and intentions to move to Barcelona.

xavi will be searching already for a player to fit in Sergio Busquet, since he is a defender I think xavi will need a strong player and aside been strong I think speed to matter a lots, I interesting part about football is that, every position is not as easy as you think ,  every position has there own work load. It is for this reason that occasionally I find it amusing how fans always complaining about a particular play has if its easy.

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June 22, 2023, 02:54:15 PM
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It seems that Barcelona is always lucky to bring in great players even though they are already +30 but their abilities are still very much needed. Last season Barcelona got a player like Lewandowski and some younger players and now, Barcelona got Gundogan at least in an easy way too. With a transfer like this, I personally believe that next season Barcelona can still dominate La Liga. But interestingly, whether the presence of Gundogan can make Barcelona's performance better in the Champions League, of course it will be an interesting thing to look forward to.
No one can guarantee whether the presence of Gundogan in the Barcelona squad will make them better or not. However, if you look at what Gundogan has done at his previous club, it is clear that there is great hope to be able to make Barcelona even more solid. He is an experienced player and also has good skills on the pitch. One more thing, at his previous club he succeeded with the strategy implemented by Pep Guardiola, and we know Xavi also has a strategy that is almost similar to what Pep Guardiola did, so I think strategically I'm sure he will quickly adapt to Barcelona.

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June 22, 2023, 02:56:32 PM
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The schedule of La Liga games has already been released, the 3 teams that are always in the whole will have very easy games on paper, for example:

August 13th:

Atletico Madrid - Granada
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getafe - barcelona
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Ath bilbao - real madrid
I agree that Barcelona and Atlético Madrid games are easy but we should not forget that the first games are always tricky and tend to be unpredictable with unexpected results.
Otherwise, a game having Bilbao on it could not be named an easy one, without counting the first matches surprise. Bilbao are an annoying opponent especially for top teams.

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Apart from the three you mentioned, Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona, I don't see any other team that can challenge the top and become the first in La Liga, honestly
Of course, this decreases competition but La Liga is not a very competitive championship, not like the Italian one
Predictions on clubs winning the La Liga is easy unlike other leagues. Considering they have high-quality players that can compete with the best, Spanish clubs are always the best among other league clubs. Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Athletico Madrid are the premier clubs, with the ability to win La Liga every season. It's almost as if they were born into the league, and average clubs will take a long time to beat the record. I can't see Sevilla or Villarreal finishing first in La Liga, because there are top competitive clubs that have only demonstrated fantastic performance against their players.

It will be difficult for any team to take la Liga league title from Real Madrid, Barcelona and Athletic Madrid because all those teams has potential squads that they are capable to lead the team to achieve their goal at the end of the season. Based on what is happening in this summer, showed that Barcelona will not miss the la Liga league title next season, because their coach is planning to bring more talented players that will help the team to embrace the title again next season. Sevilla and Villarreal still have a long way to go before they will be close to that position to lift la Liga league title, because Barcelona and Real Madrid will never allow such opportunity to happen now.
Barcelona's probability of winning next season's La Liga title is not certain. Remember,  we also have real Madrid in this race. The door is also open to Athletico Madrid too. Real Madrid were too focused on the EUFA champion league, this contributed to their lose form in La liga. despite the fact that Xavi is setting a good system In Baemrcelona, real Madrid may not want to miss next season's La Liga title to any other club. Though Madrid hasn't made moves to sign new players but I'm sure they will before the end of the transfer window.

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It seems that Barcelona is always lucky to bring in great players even though they are already +30 but their abilities are still very much needed. Last season Barcelona got a player like Lewandowski and some younger players and now, Barcelona got Gundogan at least in an easy way too. With a transfer like this, I personally believe that next season Barcelona can still dominate La Liga. But interestingly, whether the presence of Gundogan can make Barcelona's performance better in the Champions League, of course it will be an interesting thing to look forward to.
The truth is, Barcelona is currently facing financial difficulties in acquiring star players, which is why they are targeting free transfer players like Gundogan. In terms of quality, Gundogan has the potential to fill the void left by Busquets and even surpass his predecessor. His presence at Camp Nou is expected to enhance creativity and increase the number of goals from the midfield.

With Xavi's expert guidance, it is hoped that Gundogan's inclusion in the team will lead Barcelona to become treble winners, just as he recently achieved with Manchester City. Given his wealth of experience, Gundogan shouldn't have much trouble adapting to his new team's playing style.

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What's most interesting to wait for next season is Real Sociedad, Real Sociedad Return to the UEFA Champions League After 1 decade of waiting, can they make a new surprise next season? Real Sociedad last appeared in the 2013-2014 UCL season when they were reinforced by Claudio Bravo, Inigo Martinez, Antoine Griezmann and Carlos Vela, hopefully Real Sociedad can go further in the 2023-2024 UCL season.

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The truth is, Barcelona is currently facing financial difficulties in acquiring star players, which is why they are targeting free transfer players like Gundogan. In terms of quality, Gundogan has the potential to fill the void left by Busquets and even surpass his predecessor. His presence at Camp Nou is expected to enhance creativity and increase the number of goals from the midfield.

With Xavi's expert guidance, it is hoped that Gundogan's inclusion in the team will lead Barcelona to become treble winners, just as he recently achieved with Manchester City. Given his wealth of experience, Gundogan shouldn't have much trouble adapting to his new team's playing style.
True, Barcelona has financial problems that have discouraged them from buying more high-value star players. But you need to know, Barcelona can also be successful in this way even though some of its players have had to accept a decrease in salary.

Barcelona have been built in a different way because of financial, but they are still a team that can compete in any competition. Barcelona's proof was last season, even though they didn't sign many expensive players but they managed to win two domestic titles compared to other teams who have strong finances. Barcelona have a lot of quality players, and they are quite stable with some free players.

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The schedule of La Liga games has already been released, the 3 teams that are always in the whole will have very easy games on paper, for example:

August 13th:

Atletico Madrid - Granada
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getafe - barcelona
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Ath bilbao - real madrid
I agree that Barcelona and Atlético Madrid games are easy but we should not forget that the first games are always tricky and tend to be unpredictable with unexpected results.
Otherwise, a game having Bilbao on it could not be named an easy one, without counting the first matches surprise. Bilbao are an annoying opponent especially for top teams.
The early matches of the season were really scary for me because every club wants to try to see and read the strategies that other clubs have because at the beginning of the season there will always be new players with new strategies so that there will be lots of surprises that will occur in the games at the start of the season.
Yes, I agree with you that Bilbao is sometimes very annoying at the start of the season as if it is very strong and in my opinion a top club later if they lose at the start of the season doesn't mean they are weak but it's just that they are trying to read the new strategies that several other clubs have.

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June 22, 2023, 03:29:06 PM
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getafe - barcelona

also looking at the excellent performance of barcelona last season that led them to become champions, and this season they are improving their squad even more, i see barcelona winning this game and getting 3 points
I just wanna see gundogan's performance with barcelona. Im feeling curious about many parties who said that if he was not fit to the barcelona. It will become a huge challenge for him to break all of bad opinions about him to join in barcelona and leave from the strongest squad in the world.
This match is quite interesting for me to be honest.

Ath bilbao - real madrid

without benzema and playing away from home, it will be a very difficult game for real madrid to win, it is not yet known to what extent the new player who came to replace benzema will be useful or not, but that is something we will see in the games friendlies that real madrid will make, according to google real madrid will have the friendlies with the following teams
Joselu is my main concern in this match but this game is still months ahead. Let's stick to the pre match that will be started from next month.

milan on the 23rd of july; manchester united on the 27th of july, barcelona on the 29th of july; juventus on the 2nd of August.
Im feeling that these friend matches gonna be very good challenge for joselu with madrid. It can become the best time for joselu to show how good he was after joining in real madrid.
Many people skeptical with his performance once he came to the real madrid but i trust him to be a good striker for madrid.

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June 22, 2023, 03:39:31 PM
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The truth is, Barcelona is currently facing financial difficulties in acquiring star players, which is why they are targeting free transfer players like Gundogan. In terms of quality, Gundogan has the potential to fill the void left by Busquets and even surpass his predecessor. His presence at Camp Nou is expected to enhance creativity and increase the number of goals from the midfield.

With Xavi's expert guidance, it is hoped that Gundogan's inclusion in the team will lead Barcelona to become treble winners, just as he recently achieved with Manchester City. Given his wealth of experience, Gundogan shouldn't have much trouble adapting to his new team's playing style.
True, Barcelona has financial problems that have discouraged them from buying more high-value star players. But you need to know, Barcelona can also be successful in this way even though some of its players have had to accept a decrease in salary.

Barcelona have been built in a different way because of financial, but they are still a team that can compete in any competition. Barcelona's proof was last season, even though they didn't sign many expensive players but they managed to win two domestic titles compared to other teams who have strong finances. Barcelona have a lot of quality players, and they are quite stable with some free players.

So far they seem to have found a smart way to increase the quality for their team. When they sign some who have an expired contract they can save a lot of money in that way and consolidate their finances. It is not yet known how many players more they are trying to bring to Barcelona, but they will need a few if they want to attack again. But they do need to improve their overall approach since they are in desperate need for a surplus.

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So far they seem to have found a smart way to increase the quality for their team. When they sign some who have an expired contract they can save a lot of money in that way and consolidate their finances. It is not yet known how many players more they are trying to bring to Barcelona, but they will need a few if they want to attack again. But they do need to improve their overall approach since they are in desperate need for a surplus.
The idea is probably the same, as long as they are sure the player fits Barcelona's needs then I think Xavi would recommend the player to sign. Ilkay Gundogan is a good midfielder for Barcelona, ​​so I think Barcelona were lucky to sign him for a few seasons. Xavi may still need a few other good players who can balance his team, but I don't think he will be too pushy due to the team's not-so-good financial condition.

Xavi already has a good alternative to the former Manchester City captain. Ilkay Gundogan can act as a defensive midfielder although De Jong and Kessie can also play in that position. So Xavi has found what he was looking for after he lost Busquets, while in other positions I think Xavi also needs a good right-back instead of giving Araujo and Kounde a lot of chances.

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