La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[skarais]

Yes, that's what I mean. The determining factor in a team is not only the players but the coach also plays a very crucial role. Losing Messi is something hard for the team, for that, Koeman must be able to present a good composition with the current squad. Even if the team is in a bad state, the coach must do his best to provide a solution because it was his job and he was paid for it.

I see Koeman as a man who is selfish to fulfill his wishes. Since being appointed as Barcelona coach, Koeman has kicked several old Barcelona players and destabilized the team throughout the season. Previously Barcelona lost Suarez, Rakitic and several other players and this season it was Messi and Griezmann's turn. I don't know what he wants at Barca while he hasn't shown his best leadership style so far to determine the composition of a very good line-up. I don't care about new signings, maybe they are needed or just making Barcelona's money without significant contributions from the players they bought.

[blackened515]

The news that Messi has decided not to renew his contract with Barcelona astounds me. This is awful news for the team's fans as well as the team itself. Without Messi, Barcelona appears to be a team that is no longer a force to be reckoned with, and Laliga will soon be displaced by other European competitions.

No doubt, Messi was a great player which Barcelona's squad depends on when playing matches. But, I don't think Barcelona is no longer strong because of the absence of Messi. Barcelona still have a strong squad, and they have proven that in their last matches, although the season just started. However, it will be difficult for them to replace Messi, because they are experiencing financial difficulties. A team is not supposed to reckon on a player, they now have to work together.

[Minor Miner]

The news that Messi has decided not to renew his contract with Barcelona astounds me. This is awful news for the team's fans as well as the team itself. Without Messi, Barcelona appears to be a team that is no longer a force to be reckoned with, and Laliga will soon be displaced by other European competitions.

No doubt, Messi was a great player which Barcelona's squad depends on when playing matches. But, I don't think Barcelona is no longer strong because of the absence of Messi. Barcelona still have a strong squad, and they have proven that in their last matches, although the season just started. However, it will be difficult for them to replace Messi, because they are experiencing financial difficulties. A team is not supposed to reckon on a player, they now have to work together.

Barcelona players were much more dependent on Messi. So the sudden departure of Messi from the team will definitely cause some problems. Aguero is a talented player. We have seen his extraordinary skills in Manchester City. But his performance depends on how well he adapts to Koeman's tactics.

[Lordhermes]

The news that Messi has decided not to renew his contract with Barcelona astounds me. This is awful news for the team's fans as well as the team itself. Without Messi, Barcelona appears to be a team that is no longer a force to be reckoned with, and Laliga will soon be displaced by other European competitions.

No doubt, Messi was a great player which Barcelona's squad depends on when playing matches. But, I don't think Barcelona is no longer strong because of the absence of Messi. Barcelona still have a strong squad, and they have proven that in their last matches, although the season just started. However, it will be difficult for them to replace Messi, because they are experiencing financial difficulties. A team is not supposed to reckon on a player, they now have to work together.

Exactly! I said it that since Messi have decided to move to PSG,Barca are going to face difficulties if they do not work together as a team,and know that the team was built on an individual before,which was Messi,and try to make the team successful collectively.

Barca have a very good squad that can win their league if they play as a team and not individually.There are quality players still there,ready to shine and improve.Some of them did not have the opportunities because of the presence of Messi,but now they have the chance of proving themselves.

[zuzie]

The news that Messi has decided not to renew his contract with Barcelona astounds me. This is awful news for the team's fans as well as the team itself. Without Messi, Barcelona appears to be a team that is no longer a force to be reckoned with, and Laliga will soon be displaced by other European competitions.

No doubt, Messi was a great player which Barcelona's squad depends on when playing matches. But, I don't think Barcelona is no longer strong because of the absence of Messi. Barcelona still have a strong squad, and they have proven that in their last matches, although the season just started. However, it will be difficult for them to replace Messi, because they are experiencing financial difficulties. A team is not supposed to reckon on a player, they now have to work together.

Exactly! I said it that since Messi have decided to move to PSG,Barca are going to face difficulties if they do not work together as a team,and know that the team was built on an individual before,which was Messi,and try to make the team successful collectively.

Barca have a very good squad that can win their league if they play as a team and not individually.There are quality players still there,ready to shine and improve.Some of them did not have the opportunities because of the presence of Messi,but now they have the chance of proving themselves.

Now that's what fans must realize that there are other players who have the ability at the moment Barca have quality players in every line but they haven't been able to prove it yet this season should be the right time to prove unfortunately not seen in full maybe still need a few more games.

[nurilham]

Barcelona players were much more dependent on Messi. So the sudden departure of Messi from the team will definitely cause some problems.

You are right. Messi has a big role in the Barcelona team, losing him makes Barcelona unstable. Now, Barcelona expects that they will have another player who can replace Messi's position. But it is not an easy thing, no player in the Barcelona squad has the same nature and ability as Messi. Although they have a shining player like Ansu Fati, it won't be the same as Messi's role, never be as good as Messi ever did.  

Aguero is a talented player. We have seen his extraordinary skills in Manchester City. But his performance depends on how well he adapts to Koeman's tactics.

Yep, even Aguero still didn't play a single match in La Liga. We cannot expect much that Aguero can replace Messi's role now. Just give him time to play with his best performance. Because it won't be easy to adapt to a new club, especially when your dream partner in the squad just leaving the club after he arrived. Aguero is probably a bit disappointed with Messi leaving.

[Iranus]

Now that's what fans must realize that there are other players who have the ability at the moment Barca have quality players in every line but they haven't been able to prove it yet this season should be the right time to prove unfortunately not seen in full maybe still need a few more games.

Barcelona has a lot of talented players. But they are not experienced. Even if he is talented but not experienced, he cannot be expected to perform well. If you can make players like Fati or Dembele properly, they will be the star players of the future. They are very talented. They need proper guidelines now.

[hahay]

Now that's what fans must realize that there are other players who have the ability at the moment Barca have quality players in every line but they haven't been able to prove it yet this season should be the right time to prove unfortunately not seen in full maybe still need a few more games.

Barcelona has a lot of talented players. But they are not experienced. Even if he is talented but not experienced, he cannot be expected to perform well. If you can make players like Fati or Dembele properly, they will be the star players of the future. They are very talented. They need proper guidelines now.

After all, to transform into a new game after the departure of the legend at least a team still needs more time to get something expected, it can't be as fast and easy as turning the palm of the hand. There were so many teams in the past that even, until now these teams are still going down like for example Arsenal who lost Henry but if the team has good management and discipline I'm sure the team will still be fine with the squad it has. To get the next legendary player it's just a matter of time and hard work that has to be done, if the management doesn't do that and loses the mind to grow then such indiscipline will surely destroy the team.

[Pulsar77]

Now that's what fans must realize that there are other players who have the ability at the moment Barca have quality players in every line but they haven't been able to prove it yet this season should be the right time to prove unfortunately not seen in full maybe still need a few more games.

It's true that you are saying. Barcelona have still very talented young players in their squad and qualified ones also. They need some time to get accustomed to playing with each other before starting to play like real Barcelona. Messi's absence affected the game plan of the team above all else. Because Messi was the target man before. Now, they need to learn to have a really strong team play. After that, Barcelona will get stronger day by day again. However, they still need to bring some good players to increase the quality I believe.

[Minor Miner]

Barcelona players were much more dependent on Messi. So the sudden departure of Messi from the team will definitely cause some problems.

You are right. Messi has a big role in the Barcelona team, losing him makes Barcelona unstable. Now, Barcelona expects that they will have another player who can replace Messi's position. But it is not an easy thing, no player in the Barcelona squad has the same nature and ability as Messi. Although they have a shining player like Ansu Fati, it won't be the same as Messi's role, never be as good as Messi ever did.  

Ansu Fati will never take Messi's place. Messi has been in Barcelona for a long time. He was familiar with any match strategy of Barcelona and was able to adapt himself properly to all the players on the team. Ansu Fati will need a lot of time to join the ranks of a world-class players like Messi. Besides, I don't think he has the same dribbling skills as Messi.

[zuzie]

Barcelona players were much more dependent on Messi. So the sudden departure of Messi from the team will definitely cause some problems.

You are right. Messi has a big role in the Barcelona team, losing him makes Barcelona unstable. Now, Barcelona expects that they will have another player who can replace Messi's position. But it is not an easy thing, no player in the Barcelona squad has the same nature and ability as Messi. Although they have a shining player like Ansu Fati, it won't be the same as Messi's role, never be as good as Messi ever did.  

Ansu Fati will never take Messi's place. Messi has been in Barcelona for a long time. He was familiar with any match strategy of Barcelona and was able to adapt himself properly to all the players on the team. Ansu Fati will need a lot of time to join the ranks of a world-class players like Messi. Besides, I don't think he has the same dribbling skills as Messi.

Indeed we will never get the same person because everyone has their own way to play. Barcelona have chosen him of course there is one thing to consider
We are just football fans of course we have a different view of someone's talent in this case barcelona must have found something profitable
whether it's from investment or self-development process

[Avirunes]

Now that's what fans must realize that there are other players who have the ability at the moment Barca have quality players in every line but they haven't been able to prove it yet this season should be the right time to prove unfortunately not seen in full maybe still need a few more games.

Barcelona has a lot of talented players. But they are not experienced. Even if he is talented but not experienced, he cannot be expected to perform well. If you can make players like Fati or Dembele properly, they will be the star players of the future. They are very talented. They need proper guidelines now.

I agree with this. The situation of Barcelona right now is worse but they have lot of good young talented players. They however sold some this transfer window but despite they have upcoming stars I feel like Fati, Pedri which could become a proper star if trained and mentored properly.

They have some good experienced players and they can help young players develop. Also Koeman are giving them chances as well. Still kinda feels like he is kinda biased with favouring players from his country. I am sure there will be others feeling same like me.

[kassex]

Barcelona players were much more dependent on Messi. So the sudden departure of Messi from the team will definitely cause some problems.

You are right. Messi has a big role in the Barcelona team, losing him makes Barcelona unstable. Now, Barcelona expects that they will have another player who can replace Messi's position. But it is not an easy thing, no player in the Barcelona squad has the same nature and ability as Messi. Although they have a shining player like Ansu Fati, it won't be the same as Messi's role, never be as good as Messi ever did.  

Ansu Fati will never take Messi's place. Messi has been in Barcelona for a long time. He was familiar with any match strategy of Barcelona and was able to adapt himself properly to all the players on the team. Ansu Fati will need a lot of time to join the ranks of a world-class players like Messi. Besides, I don't think he has the same dribbling skills as Messi.

It is unlikely that we will see players like Messi in Barcelona or any other club. Messi is a talent that can be obtained. But you can hardly become like him just by training. Fati is a good player, but he can hardly become like Messi.

[rahmad2nd]

Barcelona players were much more dependent on Messi. So the sudden departure of Messi from the team will definitely cause some problems.

You are right. Messi has a big role in the Barcelona team, losing him makes Barcelona unstable. Now, Barcelona expects that they will have another player who can replace Messi's position. But it is not an easy thing, no player in the Barcelona squad has the same nature and ability as Messi. Although they have a shining player like Ansu Fati, it won't be the same as Messi's role, never be as good as Messi ever did.  

Ansu Fati will never take Messi's place. Messi has been in Barcelona for a long time. He was familiar with any match strategy of Barcelona and was able to adapt himself properly to all the players on the team. Ansu Fati will need a lot of time to join the ranks of a world-class players like Messi. Besides, I don't think he has the same dribbling skills as Messi.

It is unlikely that we will see players like Messi in Barcelona or any other club. Messi is a talent that can be obtained. But you can hardly become like him just by training. Fati is a good player, but he can hardly become like Messi.

That true Lionel Messi is the legend and best player for Barcelona, but never forget how club most bigger than player and need new regeneration with new player, now Messi have thirty-four years old and Barcelona need new young player exactly for Ansu Fati, although his quality still above Messi he need time and chance how to proof for Barcelona fans number 10 on shirt use by him in this season is not wrong and mistake made by Ronald Koeman.

[DU18]

Barcelona players were much more dependent on Messi. So the sudden departure of Messi from the team will definitely cause some problems.

You are right. Messi has a big role in the Barcelona team, losing him makes Barcelona unstable. Now, Barcelona expects that they will have another player who can replace Messi's position. But it is not an easy thing, no player in the Barcelona squad has the same nature and ability as Messi. Although they have a shining player like Ansu Fati, it won't be the same as Messi's role, never be as good as Messi ever did.  

Ansu Fati will never take Messi's place. Messi has been in Barcelona for a long time. He was familiar with any match strategy of Barcelona and was able to adapt himself properly to all the players on the team. Ansu Fati will need a lot of time to join the ranks of a world-class players like Messi. Besides, I don't think he has the same dribbling skills as Messi.

it is too early for us to say that fati will be like messi, but of course it is not impossible for fati to do it in my opinion, now fati is still very young and of course there is still a lot of time for him to seek knowledge and experience from the seniors so that he can play very well as has messi did since he was young.
Now ansu fati has officially worn number 10 so that indirectly the burden of barcelona is now on his back and of course the barcelona fans really hope fati can return to make Barcelona a better club.

[icopress]

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Their school of training young talents is undoubtedly one of the best in the world, but as far as I understand, most of the Barcelona leadership is cultivating these talents for other clubs, thereby trying to pay off debts. Not that I was a good football expert, but after Messi left, the club's management should reconsider its policy in order to patch the transfer holes and prepare for new painful blows and defeats. I suppose this season we will not see Barcelona even in the TOP 3.

[masulum]

That true Lionel Messi is the legend and best player for Barcelona, but never forget how club most bigger than player and need new regeneration with new player, now Messi have thirty-four years old and Barcelona need new young player exactly for Ansu Fati, although his quality still above Messi he need time and chance how to proof for Barcelona fans number 10 on shirt use by him in this season is not wrong and mistake made by Ronald Koeman.

I'm not surprised by the assessment of many people against one player who is considered that he will be the next messi or ronaldo, because so far no one really has the ability that is equal to the two. Ansu Fati does have talent that he has to develop, but I don't think he will be like Messi. There are many players who fail to grow even though he looks to have good qualities in his young and productive age as a player. The continuous decline in performance made him unable to approach the performance of the existing legends.

[Iranus]

Now that's what fans must realize that there are other players who have the ability at the moment Barca have quality players in every line but they haven't been able to prove it yet this season should be the right time to prove unfortunately not seen in full maybe still need a few more games.

Barcelona has a lot of talented players. But they are not experienced. Even if he is talented but not experienced, he cannot be expected to perform well. If you can make players like Fati or Dembele properly, they will be the star players of the future. They are very talented. They need proper guidelines now.

I agree with this. The situation of Barcelona right now is worse but they have lot of good young talented players. They however sold some this transfer window but despite they have upcoming stars I feel like Fati, Pedri which could become a proper star if trained and mentored properly.
They have some good experienced players and they can help young players develop. Also Koeman are giving them chances as well. Still kinda feels like he is kinda biased with favouring players from his country. I am sure there will be others feeling same like me.

Pedri and Fati are talented players, how well they can build themselves in the future depends on coach Koeman. If Luis Enrique is the coach of Barcelona, then I would have said that young players would be able to build themselves properly. But I have enough doubts about Koeman's ability. I don't see anyone but Pique and Aguero as experienced players in the team. Aguero is a new player, so don't rely on him now.

[Minor Miner]

Ansu Fati will never take Messi's place. Messi has been in Barcelona for a long time. He was familiar with any match strategy of Barcelona and was able to adapt himself properly to all the players on the team. Ansu Fati will need a lot of time to join the ranks of a world-class players like Messi. Besides, I don't think he has the same dribbling skills as Messi.

It is unlikely that we will see players like Messi in Barcelona or any other club. Messi is a talent that can be obtained. But you can hardly become like him just by training. Fati is a good player, but he can hardly become like Messi.

My thoughts go completely miles with you. Messi's skills are God-given. Ronaldo is also a great player, but he has acquired this talent through hard work. With hard work maybe Ansu Fati can become a great player. But he can't be like Messi.

[AakZaki]

I believe there is no doubt that Barcelona will ever be again the same club without Messi playing. Just watch his best of situations on Youtube, it is absolutely insane what this guy did for this club. He scored impossible goals, crossed the whole pitch. Do we ever expect another player to do the same?

In his early appearance, he seemed to have adapted well. I think he will do well with barcelona. Actually barca should be able to do without messi because it is a must. I think Barca's move is slightly better than Madrid's in terms of player transfers. What I slightly disagree with is Griezman's move, I think he's pretty good. Or indeed financial problems make it so difficult for Barca to hold on.