La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[Swordsoffreedom]

I agree Barcelona has lost their key player. But Messi was in the squad last season. Were we satisfied with Barcelona's performance last season? The previous season we saw the poor performance of Barcelona, ​​this season they are even weaker. Real Madrid has lost their two main defenders. Their defense is also stronger than Barcelona. There are a lot of talented players in Barcelona. The main reason Barcelona is not playing well is because their match strategy is not very good.

If you look at his statistics, Koeman used to be a great player, he has won many titles with the club and titles for himself. Before coaching Barca the last time he won the league was with PSV in 2006/2007, after that he won another title with Valencia Copa del Rey, Az Alkmar in 2009. And he had coached the Dutch national team but also did not last long. So actually if you look at these statistics there is nothing special for Koeman.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Koeman

Koeman may have been a good player but personally, I don't like him as a coach. I don’t feel the need to consider the statistics of how he has done in the past. Take a look at what he did for the Barcelona team last season. The idea was, he has taken charge of the team, will be able to build good relations with the players of the team in a few days. But he couldn't do it. There was no improvement in the team's performance.

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[ziyaaa]

I was expecting Barcelona to change their manager after Koeman's getting really bad results in the La Liga and the Champions League both. The Atletico Madrid loss by 2-0 was the tipping point I think. While everyone was waiting for Koeman to be fired, Laporta stated that they will still continue to work with Koeman. He really believes in Koeman seemingly and thinks of giving a second chance.

Laporta said before the game that he trust Koeman so he will not sack him just after the match, in this case he will look stupid
They will give him more chances while searching for a better and available coach because if they found one they will made the change. There is another important point is that Koeman agree to end the contract otherwise Barca will have to pay him a considerable amount of fees that will make Barca more in debt.

Then, that could be one of the biggest reasons that Laporta decided to move on with him too. Because like you indicated, Barcelona are already in debt a lot. They are selling players to reach a better financial condition now. If they sack Koeman and pay the fees for him too, they will go back to the beginning and there will be no meaning left. And I hope that they can make things better as soon as possible.

[Harkorede]

I was expecting Barcelona to change their manager after Koeman's getting really bad results in the La Liga and the Champions League both. The Atletico Madrid loss by 2-0 was the tipping point I think. While everyone was waiting for Koeman to be fired, Laporta stated that they will still continue to work with Koeman. He really believes in Koeman seemingly and thinks of giving a second chance.

Laporta said before the game that he trust Koeman so he will not sack him just after the match, in this case he will look stupid
They will give him more chances while searching for a better and available coach because if they found one they will made the change. There is another important point is that Koeman agree to end the contract otherwise Barca will have to pay him a considerable amount of fees that will make Barca more in debt.

Then, that could be one of the biggest reasons that Laporta decided to move on with him too. Because like you indicated, Barcelona are already in debt a lot. They are selling players to reach a better financial condition now. If they sack Koeman and pay the fees for him too, they will go back to the beginning and there will be no meaning left. And I hope that they can make things better as soon as possible.

The fee might be an issue to take into consideration before sacking Koeman, but don't you think the fee will nothing compared to how much Barcelona would if they can't make it out of the UCL Group stages, or perhaps finish the La Liga without qualifying the next UCL or even fail to make Europa league ? or would you say those scenarios are all impossible given what we've witnessed so far in this season ?

[coderben]

It seems like the next matches of Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid have been postponed. Barcelona and Sevilla will play their matches and this could be seen as an opportunity for them to close the gap with Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid. Barcelona can have a really hard time winning against Valencia as Valencia are having a decent season now. Sevilla should be able to win against Celta Vigo after losing to Granada unexpectedly.

[icopress]

The fee might be an issue to take into consideration before sacking Koeman, but don't you think the fee will nothing compared to how much Barcelona would if they can't make it out of the UCL Group stages, or perhaps finish the La Liga without qualifying the next UCL or even fail to make Europa league ? or would you say those scenarios are all impossible given what we've witnessed so far in this season ?

Shit happens to all clubs ... and I'm not sure if the situation will change for the better if Koeman is fired (especially considering the huge compensation that will have to be paid therefore, Laporta's patience is only an echo of the financial component). In addition, many people forget the merits of Koeman to Barsa, so I am especially enraged by banners in the spirit of "Koeman Go away". But speaking of scripts, I think anything is possible ...

I stopped following football logic after Bayern, Real and PSG recently lost to mediocre teams on the same day. 

[jakdanyel]

Considering the current condition in the table, we can have a quite competitive season for a long period of time. But maybe at some point, one or two teams can start pulling away from the others and start competing with each other only for winning the title. And my biggest favourites for title are Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid now. But at least one of them might change depending on the performance of the rest of the big clubs.

[perfect999]

It seems like the next matches of Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid have been postponed. Barcelona and Sevilla will play their matches and this could be seen as an opportunity for them to close the gap with Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid. Barcelona can have a really hard time winning against Valencia as Valencia are having a decent season now. Sevilla should be able to win against Celta Vigo after losing to Granada unexpectedly.

Yes, Both Madrid teams have their matches postponed due to request from RFEF Competition Committee as CONMEBOL national teams playing their matches on 15 October 2021 in Spain. https://www.marca.com/en/football/spanish-football/2021/09/23/614cc26646163f67778b45df.html

Now Barcelona Sevilla and Real Sociedad all have some good time for doing some better specially for Real Sociedad they can go on top of League for few weeks for others It's still tough as Barcelona is going to face Valencia at home both are currently level in points hopefully this will give some better chance to Barcelona for changing their fortune and Sevilla already lost to Granada and its tricky one for them again on road.

[alpamar99]

Koeman may have been a good player but personally, I don't like him as a coach. I don’t feel the need to consider the statistics of how he has done in the past. Take a look at what he did for the Barcelona team last season. The idea was, he has taken charge of the team, will be able to build good relations with the players of the team in a few days. But he couldn't do it. There was no improvement in the team's performance.

what you say is true, we certainly know that he was a great person when he played as a soccer player, but being a player and a coach is certainly a very different thing, because being a talented player does not guarantee that the person will be successful. be a great coach too.
Although Koeman was indeed quite good at coaching previous teams such as winning titles with Ajax and PSV, these are all leagues that can be said to be below the average club from Europe. I don't want to offend and say that the Dutch league is bad, but if you compare the Dutch league with La Liga in Spain, it will be very different.
Besides that, the team approach personally to the team is also very lacking when seeing this.
maybe indeed Koeman in other leagues is very good but not for Barcelona and La Liga

[Kusman]

The current view in the table is quite interesting. Real Madrid are the leader. But they are sharing the points with Atletico Madrid and Real Sociedad both now. If Sevilla won against Granada, there were going to be four teams with the same points at the top. Maybe this shows that we will watch a great competition for the title among more than two teams. But it is still early to say this, I know. 

La Liga currently looks more varied because the teams that usually dominate La Liga haven't played as they should (especially Barcelona). It is possible that this will only happen at the beginning of the season, but this is an opportunity for other teams to secure their position or even aim for the highest position.

Even one of the promoted teams from the Segunda Division (Rayo Vallecano) has pretty good points. So I think for this season, La Liga will provide an interesting spectacle and maybe there will be some surprises.

Rayo Vallecano are one of the surprising clubs in this season so far. They started having very satisfying results especially in the recent times. Falcao is contributing to the team a lot. He scored goals in every game he played so far. Maybe they won't keep this performance up until the end but I believe that they will finish the season at a decent place.

[haidil]

I was expecting Barcelona to change their manager after Koeman's getting really bad results in the La Liga and the Champions League both. The Atletico Madrid loss by 2-0 was the tipping point I think. While everyone was waiting for Koeman to be fired, Laporta stated that they will still continue to work with Koeman. He really believes in Koeman seemingly and thinks of giving a second chance.

Laporta said before the game that he trust Koeman so he will not sack him just after the match, in this case he will look stupid
They will give him more chances while searching for a better and available coach because if they found one they will made the change. There is another important point is that Koeman agree to end the contract otherwise Barca will have to pay him a considerable amount of fees that will make Barca more in debt.

Then, that could be one of the biggest reasons that Laporta decided to move on with him too. Because like you indicated, Barcelona are already in debt a lot. They are selling players to reach a better financial condition now. If they sack Koeman and pay the fees for him too, they will go back to the beginning and there will be no meaning left. And I hope that they can make things better as soon as possible.

The fee might be an issue to take into consideration before sacking Koeman, but don't you think the fee will nothing compared to how much Barcelona would if they can't make it out of the UCL Group stages, or perhaps finish the La Liga without qualifying the next UCL or even fail to make Europa league ? or would you say those scenarios are all impossible given what we've witnessed so far in this season ?

You are right that the cost will be very undisputed if in the end it has been replaced, maybe Barcelona can improve and can have a better level of play or even be able to re-show the identity of Barcelona that had been lost. But if I had to choose who should replace Koeman in guiding Barcelona to a good level?

[izsara]

Then, that could be one of the biggest reasons that Laporta decided to move on with him too. Because like you indicated, Barcelona are already in debt a lot. They are selling players to reach a better financial condition now. If they sack Koeman and pay the fees for him too, they will go back to the beginning and there will be no meaning left. And I hope that they can make things better as soon as possible.

The fee might be an issue to take into consideration before sacking Koeman, but don't you think the fee will nothing compared to how much Barcelona would if they can't make it out of the UCL Group stages, or perhaps finish the La Liga without qualifying the next UCL or even fail to make Europa league ? or would you say those scenarios are all impossible given what we've witnessed so far in this season ?

Of course there will be risks that must be taken.
When I look at Barcelona at this time I think they are now like advancing, there will be consequences and the same goes back.
when this happened I still thought that spending a little more money to lay off Koeman was not something very extreme compared to the results achieved later when Koeman was still staying.
At least if you really want to keep Koeman, I think Barcelona must have a very effective strategy at least to improve the performance and communication of the players.
because what I have seen so far they are not getting better but even worse, even in the last match against ATM, there was an argument caught on camera between Sergio and Pique. Of course this will worsen the team's performance which until now has not even been maximized.

[icopress]

Lol, a couple more spammers have been added to my ignore list.  

Now Barcelona Sevilla and Real Sociedad all have some good time for doing some better specially for Real Sociedad they can go on top of League for few weeks for others It's still tough as Barcelona is going to face Valencia at home both are currently level in points hopefully this will give some better chance to Barcelona for changing their fortune and Sevilla already lost to Granada and its tricky one for them again on road.

Granada has surprised me more than once, so I try not to bet against this club, since a long draw and one random goal can ruin a good express bet ^{[remember the game against Barça}?]. By the way, I decided for myself that as long as Koeman remains a coach, I will refrain from betting on Barça's victory.  

[KTChampions]

Yes, Both Madrid teams have their matches postponed due to request from RFEF Competition Committee as CONMEBOL national teams playing their matches on 15 October 2021 in Spain. https://www.marca.com/en/football/spanish-football/2021/09/23/614cc26646163f67778b45df.html

Now Barcelona Sevilla and Real Sociedad all have some good time for doing some better specially for Real Sociedad they can go on top of League for few weeks for others It's still tough as Barcelona is going to face Valencia at home both are currently level in points hopefully this will give some better chance to Barcelona for changing their fortune and Sevilla already lost to Granada and its tricky one for them again on road.

Brrrr ... I do not like it when there are postponed matches in the standings and you need to look at the situation taking into account the fact that someone has games in reserve. And now both Madrid clubs have been added to Barcelona and Seville (whose match has been postponed indefinitely), which will completely confuse the situation in the top of the standings 

[Spack17]

It seems like the next matches of Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid have been postponed. Barcelona and Sevilla will play their matches and this could be seen as an opportunity for them to close the gap with Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid. Barcelona can have a really hard time winning against Valencia as Valencia are having a decent season now. Sevilla should be able to win against Celta Vigo after losing to Granada unexpectedly.

Yes, Both Madrid teams have their matches postponed due to request from RFEF Competition Committee as CONMEBOL national teams playing their matches on 15 October 2021 in Spain. https://www.marca.com/en/football/spanish-football/2021/09/23/614cc26646163f67778b45df.html

Now Barcelona Sevilla and Real Sociedad all have some good time for doing some better specially for Real Sociedad they can go on top of League for few weeks for others It's still tough as Barcelona is going to face Valencia at home both are currently level in points hopefully this will give some better chance to Barcelona for changing their fortune and Sevilla already lost to Granada and its tricky one for them again on road.

Barcelona, Sevilla and Real Sociedad all can enjoy this as some of them will have an opportunity to even take the provisional lead by an extra match played. Barcelona can really have a hard time when it comes to beating Valencia. Because Valencia are not an easy competitor to beat. And this Barcelona can have a big difficulty in this match. But Sevilla and Real Madrid both can get wins as their competitors not that tough.

[Smartvirus]

Barcelona, Sevilla and Real Sociedad all can enjoy this as some of them will have an opportunity to even take the provisional lead by an extra match played. Barcelona can really have a hard time when it comes to beating Valencia. Because Valencia are not an easy competitor to beat. And this Barcelona can have a big difficulty in this match. But Sevilla and Real Madrid both can get wins as their competitors not that tough.

Sure Real Sociedad is still amongst this lead, from statistics on game played, they've played all there 8 games. Those still in that lead are Sevilla, Barcelona, Villarreal and Deportivo Alaves. Though, when it comes to vying for the league title, Deportivo Alavez don't have chance of a say on the matter so, its left on the bads of Sevilla, Barcelona and perhaps Villarreal. Again, on a wide scale, the goal difference between Real Madrid and the rest of the teams stands out so, there is little to what they could do to offset that scale at the moment. Most of it lies with the points which is most likely going to be the same should either of the teams win there games.
Mean while, Barcelona which could have been a vying team for the Laliga title haven't been at there best, no, not at all. A lot of needs to be done on the Barca team!

[sana54210]

The Catalan press is saying 5 players for Barcelona are about to.make the return of Fati,Dembele,Pedri,Aguero,Alba from injury. "Koman now has all the players during October," .
Outwardly, good news for Koeman, because he can play the way he wants, but in his heart there is "the horror" because the failure in October has no excuse or justification!

I think  that with tge current financial situation for Barcelona they are going to have to keep up with Koeman despite not achieving tge bare minimum results awaited from him.

I believe the maximum they can afford to keep him will be end of this season, let him have a horrible year, then fire Koeman and then get Xavi. Dude literally said himself that it would be dream to manage Barcelona and he had like nearly 100 games as a manager so far in Qatar, of course it is not the same as managing Barcelona but at least he is not some inexperienced manager neither. I believe with Xavi at the helm, Barcelona could have the type of success Zidane had with Real Madrid.

Very smart football players who used their brains to be better than everyone else instead of just their physical talents do end up being a great manager in the long run. I hope that Xavi would be offered the job as soon as possible but at latest during the summer and then we can see how amazing Barcelona can become with him managing the team like how it should have been already.

[coderben]

In less than three weeks, we are going to have a huge match between Barcelona and Real Madrid in Camp Nou. But this is going to be a very different match actually considering the performances so far and the lineups. It is going to be hard to get accustomed to El Clasicos without Messi and Ronaldo. Before this huge match, Real Madrid won't play any league match while Barcelona are hosting Valencia. Obtaining a decent victory will be important for Barcelona to be focused on the match against Real Madrid.

[icopress]

In less than three weeks, we are going to have a huge match between Barcelona and Real Madrid in Camp Nou. But this is going to be a very different match actually considering the performances so far and the lineups. It is going to be hard to get accustomed to El Clasicos without Messi and Ronaldo.

Just recently, Barcelona won against Juventus, which included Ronaldo, despite the fact that Messi was already absent from Barça, so the chances are equal, although I will definitely bet on Real's victory.

I believe the maximum they can afford to keep him will be end of this season, let him have a horrible year, then fire Koeman and then get Xavi. Dude literally said himself that it would be dream to manage Barcelona and he had like nearly 100 games as a manager so far in Qatar, of course it is not the same as managing Barcelona but at least he is not some inexperienced manager neither.

Mark my words, in a couple of three years Messi will be the coach of Barça.  

[AndySt]

Koeman may have been a good player but personally, I don't like him as a coach. I don’t feel the need to consider the statistics of how he has done in the past. Take a look at what he did for the Barcelona team last season. The idea was, he has taken charge of the team, will be able to build good relations with the players of the team in a few days. But he couldn't do it. There was no improvement in the team's performance.

what you say is true, we certainly know that he was a great person when he played as a soccer player, but being a player and a coach is certainly a very different thing, because being a talented player does not guarantee that the person will be successful. be a great coach too.
Although Koeman was indeed quite good at coaching previous teams such as winning titles with Ajax and PSV, these are all leagues that can be said to be below the average club from Europe. I don't want to offend and say that the Dutch league is bad, but if you compare the Dutch league with La Liga in Spain, it will be very different.
Besides that, the team approach personally to the team is also very lacking when seeing this.
maybe indeed Koeman in other leagues is very good but not for Barcelona and La Liga

The truth is that Koeman was taken under the previous president of the club to refresh the team and the sensational parting with Suarez fits perfectly into this line. Another question is that it was done so clumsily, when everything was said over the phone in a not very diplomatic way, which gave rise to a cruel offense on the part of the Uruguayan player and, conversely, showed that establishing good relations with the players is clearly not about this particular case. As for Koeman's work at Ajax and PSV, for the Barcelona management, it was rather an indicator that the coach knows how to squeeze the maximum out of the players available to him. But then these events happened with a change of leadership and financial turmoil, which radically changed the landscape in which Koeman was going to work.

[rahmad2nd]

In less than three weeks, we are going to have a huge match between Barcelona and Real Madrid in Camp Nou. But this is going to be a very different match actually considering the performances so far and the lineups. It is going to be hard to get accustomed to El Clasicos without Messi and Ronaldo. Before this huge match, Real Madrid won't play any league match while Barcelona are hosting Valencia. Obtaining a decent victory will be important for Barcelona to be focused on the match against Real Madrid.

Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are an icon for Barcelona and Real Madrid, both player become the symbol and most interested debate between Real Madrid and Barcelona fans, but after leaving both player match between Barcelona and Real Madrid right now not real el clasico again, many watcher not interested with this match, happening when first time el clasico when Real Madrid without Cristiano Ronaldo viewer of this match less and reduce more than 30%, now without Lionel Messi I think El Clasico is not most important match to debate but still important for both club.