La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[hahay]

In less than three weeks, we are going to have a huge match between Barcelona and Real Madrid in Camp Nou. But this is going to be a very different match actually considering the performances so far and the lineups. It is going to be hard to get accustomed to El Clasicos without Messi and Ronaldo. Before this huge match, Real Madrid won't play any league match while Barcelona are hosting Valencia. Obtaining a decent victory will be important for Barcelona to be focused on the match against Real Madrid.

Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are an icon for Barcelona and Real Madrid, both player become the symbol and most interested debate between Real Madrid and Barcelona fans, but after leaving both player match between Barcelona and Real Madrid right now not real el clasico again, many watcher not interested with this match, happening when first time el clasico when Real Madrid without Cristiano Ronaldo viewer of this match less and reduce more than 30%, now without Lionel Messi I think El Clasico is not most important match to debate but still important for both club.

El Clasico matches are not just about Messi and Ronaldo because long before they existed, El Clasico remains a prestigious match and at the moment we are only in the era of Messi and Ronaldo so we consider that. But apart from that, I think the drop in spectators might be due to the impact of the pandemic as well because after all these two teams have heated tensions not only in football. But regarding the results that will be obtained later for this season, Madrid will certainly dominate the El Clasico match, because we know Barcelona's chaotic situation seems difficult to surprise in the El Clasico match later.

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[abhiseshakana]

what you say is true, we certainly know that he was a great person when he played as a soccer player, but being a player and a coach is certainly a very different thing, because being a talented player does not guarantee that the person will be successful. be a great coach too.
Although Koeman was indeed quite good at coaching previous teams such as winning titles with Ajax and PSV, these are all leagues that can be said to be below the average club from Europe. I don't want to offend and say that the Dutch league is bad, but if you compare the Dutch league with La Liga in Spain, it will be very different.
Besides that, the team approach personally to the team is also very lacking when seeing this.
maybe indeed Koeman in other leagues is very good but not for Barcelona and La Liga

The truth is that Koeman was taken under the previous president of the club to refresh the team and the sensational parting with Suarez fits perfectly into this line. Another question is that it was done so clumsily, when everything was said over the phone in a not very diplomatic way, which gave rise to a cruel offense on the part of the Uruguayan player and, conversely, showed that establishing good relations with the players is clearly not about this particular case. As for Koeman's work at Ajax and PSV, for the Barcelona management, it was rather an indicator that the coach knows how to squeeze the maximum out of the players available to him. But then these events happened with a change of leadership and financial turmoil, which radically changed the landscape in which Koeman was going to work.

Laporta keeps Ronald Koeman because this is related to their financial condition which is currently not getting better. If Laporta decides to sack Koeman, then Barcelona will have to pay around 12 million euros in compensation. It is not a small value, given their poor financial condition.

If they insist on sacking Koeman then they also don't have many options to choose a new coach. According to La Liga rules, Barcelona only has a budget limit of 3.91 million Euros that can be used to sign new coaches.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/barcelona-espbarcelona/story/4487945/barcelonas-money-crisis-forced-lionel-messi-out-will-it-leave-them-stuck-with-ronald-koeman

[KTChampions]

In less than three weeks, we are going to have a huge match between Barcelona and Real Madrid in Camp Nou. But this is going to be a very different match actually considering the performances so far and the lineups. It is going to be hard to get accustomed to El Clasicos without Messi and Ronaldo. Before this huge match, Real Madrid won't play any league match while Barcelona are hosting Valencia. Obtaining a decent victory will be important for Barcelona to be focused on the match against Real Madrid.

Valencia is playing this season roughly like Barcelona and perhaps at the Camp Nou Barcelona will have a slight advantage over the rival, but I would not be sure that Barcelona will win. Valencia has always been a strong team and it is capable (especially given the weakness of Barcelona this season) to present another unpleasant surprise to the opponents' fans.

[Lordhermes]

In less than three weeks, we are going to have a huge match between Barcelona and Real Madrid in Camp Nou. But this is going to be a very different match actually considering the performances so far and the lineups. It is going to be hard to get accustomed to El Clasicos without Messi and Ronaldo. Before this huge match, Real Madrid won't play any league match while Barcelona are hosting Valencia. Obtaining a decent victory will be important for Barcelona to be focused on the match against Real Madrid.

Valencia is playing this season roughly like Barcelona and perhaps at the Camp Nou Barcelona will have a slight advantage over the rival, but I would not be sure that Barcelona will win. Valencia has always been a strong team and it is capable (especially given the weakness of Barcelona this season) to present another unpleasant surprise to the opponents' fans.

In less than three weeks, we are going to have a huge match between Barcelona and Real Madrid in Camp Nou. But this is going to be a very different match actually considering the performances so far and the lineups. It is going to be hard to get accustomed to El Clasicos without Messi and Ronaldo. Before this huge match, Real Madrid won't play any league match while Barcelona are hosting Valencia. Obtaining a decent victory will be important for Barcelona to be focused on the match against Real Madrid.

Valencia is playing this season roughly like Barcelona and perhaps at the Camp Nou Barcelona will have a slight advantage over the rival, but I would not be sure that Barcelona will win. Valencia has always been a strong team and it is capable (especially given the weakness of Barcelona this season) to present another unpleasant surprise to the opponents' fans.

I know Barcelona have not really been good form this season,may be due to the injuries with the key players,they have shown weakness in almost all the games they play,but it's unlike Barcelona who will defeat any team that comes their  way.
 But this encounter is really going to be one that they will want to win by all means.Valencia as well is a big team team that will surely trouble Barcelona,but I rather give a the both teams to score and a draw at the end.
But I just hope Key Barcelona players will be fit to play that game.

[poldanmig]

Valencia is playing this season roughly like Barcelona and perhaps at the Camp Nou Barcelona will have a slight advantage over the rival, but I would not be sure that Barcelona will win. Valencia has always been a strong team and it is capable (especially given the weakness of Barcelona this season) to present another unpleasant surprise to the opponents' fans.

Barcelona this season is not barcelona a few seasons ago who were very great in their every line, as we see today, barcelona has many weaknesses, both from a porous defense, to their attack line which is quite blunt this season, besides that valencia of course will take advantage of the match to be able to get full points at camp nou, because apart from the current bad performance of barcelona, ​​of course many barcelona players will be in a declining condition after completing international matches for their respective national teams, i think valencia will be able to bring come home 3 points from camp nou later.

[Kusman]

Valencia is playing this season roughly like Barcelona and perhaps at the Camp Nou Barcelona will have a slight advantage over the rival, but I would not be sure that Barcelona will win. Valencia has always been a strong team and it is capable (especially given the weakness of Barcelona this season) to present another unpleasant surprise to the opponents' fans.

Agreed. Valencia are performing much better than the last season. They are more assertive for finishing the season at a decent place. And they will be prepared really well against Barcelona too. They know how much weak Barcelona are right now. They would like to take advantage of their current weakness and get at least one point in this tough match. And if Barcelona don't improve their game, it is most likely to happen too.

[CryptoBuds]

Valencia is playing this season roughly like Barcelona and perhaps at the Camp Nou Barcelona will have a slight advantage over the rival, but I would not be sure that Barcelona will win. Valencia has always been a strong team and it is capable (especially given the weakness of Barcelona this season) to present another unpleasant surprise to the opponents' fans.

Barcelona this season is not barcelona a few seasons ago who were very great in their every line, as we see today, barcelona has many weaknesses, both from a porous defense, to their attack line which is quite blunt this season, besides that valencia of course will take advantage of the match to be able to get full points at camp nou, because apart from the current bad performance of barcelona, ​​of course many barcelona players will be in a declining condition after completing international matches for their respective national teams, i think valencia will be able to bring come home 3 points from camp nou later.

^ Valencia always used to give hard times to teams like Braca and Real over the years in the league. Now that Barcelona's strength has been hugely lowered with the departure of Lionel Messi, Valencia will try to get the full 3 points from this match. What I feel like is that even they draw this match, they will feel like they lost. Because of the form, Barca is in, Valencia should be able to win. Barcelona's defense has been shaky they attack has been blunt.

[poldanmig]

Valencia is playing this season roughly like Barcelona and perhaps at the Camp Nou Barcelona will have a slight advantage over the rival, but I would not be sure that Barcelona will win. Valencia has always been a strong team and it is capable (especially given the weakness of Barcelona this season) to present another unpleasant surprise to the opponents' fans.

Barcelona this season is not barcelona a few seasons ago who were very great in their every line, as we see today, barcelona has many weaknesses, both from a porous defense, to their attack line which is quite blunt this season, besides that valencia of course will take advantage of the match to be able to get full points at camp nou, because apart from the current bad performance of barcelona, ​​of course many barcelona players will be in a declining condition after completing international matches for their respective national teams, i think valencia will be able to bring come home 3 points from camp nou later.

^ Valencia always used to give hard times to teams like Braca and Real over the years in the league. Now that Barcelona's strength has been hugely lowered with the departure of Lionel Messi, Valencia will try to get the full 3 points from this match. What I feel like is that even they draw this match, they will feel like they lost. Because of the form, Barca is in, Valencia should be able to win. Barcelona's defense has been shaky they attack has been blunt.

Even though Barcelona is still a big team in La Liga, it's clear that in the current conditions Valencia is likely to be able to get points at Barcelona's headquarters, especially now that Barcelona continues to achieve negative results in some of their matches in the league and Europe, I think this condition of Barcelona is a The worst in recent years and of course it will be very difficult for Koeman to fix it, losing Messi this season was the beginning of Barcelona's slump, apart from the financial problems that befell them.

[jakdanyel]

While people are sharing their opinions about the coming Barcelona - Valencia match in ten days, I'd like to share mine also. In the last season, Valencia finished at the 13th position and they were only nine points above the relegation zone. Magically, they started very great to this season. I really appreciate their high effort in every game. They are right above Barcelona in the standings now. I'd like to add one thing about them also that Valencia were nearly defeating Real Madrid this season too but Real Madrid barely made a comeback in the last minutes and won. They can play very strongly against Barcelona and I wouldn't be surprised if they even win this one.

[Iranus]

I know Barcelona have not really been good form this season,may be due to the injuries with the key players,they have shown weakness in almost all the games they play,but it's unlike Barcelona who will defeat any team that comes their  way.
 But this encounter is really going to be one that they will want to win by all means.Valencia as well is a big team team that will surely trouble Barcelona,but I rather give a the both teams to score and a draw at the end.
But I just hope Key Barcelona players will be fit to play that game.

I heard the news that Aguero and Ansu are fit to play, if that is true, Barca will regain its strength in the attack and hope they will be able to score, which they have not been able to do for the last 2 matches. Aguero could solve a lot of Barcelona's scoring problems, they have been looking for that regular scorer after Messi left and Aguero fell into injuries after he came.

[ILuckyGuyI]

I know Barcelona have not really been good form this season,may be due to the injuries with the key players,they have shown weakness in almost all the games they play,but it's unlike Barcelona who will defeat any team that comes their  way.
 But this encounter is really going to be one that they will want to win by all means.Valencia as well is a big team team that will surely trouble Barcelona,but I rather give a the both teams to score and a draw at the end.
But I just hope Key Barcelona players will be fit to play that game.

It is not just about the key players actually. Barcelona have a more general problem like being unable to play as a team. We don't see the Barcelona that we are accustomed to. And it looks like we will need a really much time to be able to see that one. Until then, they will continue to lose points even in unexpected games. Besides this, the injured players also make things even harder for them. Their important players like Pedri, Aguero and Braithwaite all are still injured. They are very crucial players for scoring many goals for the team.

[rozak]

I know Barcelona have not really been good form this season,may be due to the injuries with the key players,they have shown weakness in almost all the games they play,but it's unlike Barcelona who will defeat any team that comes their  way.
 But this encounter is really going to be one that they will want to win by all means.Valencia as well is a big team team that will surely trouble Barcelona,but I rather give a the both teams to score and a draw at the end.
But I just hope Key Barcelona players will be fit to play that game.

I heard the news that Aguero and Ansu are fit to play, if that is true, Barca will regain its strength in the attack and hope they will be able to score, which they have not been able to do for the last 2 matches. Aguero could solve a lot of Barcelona's scoring problems, they have been looking for that regular scorer after Messi left and Aguero fell into injuries after he came.

Aguero should be able to do it. but he has to adapt to the current Barca game. especially with his condition that had just recovered from an injury.
all the fans have high hopes for a return to form from Barca. because of his play at the start of the season obviously, fans won't like him. this is a bad judgment for their coach.

[Luzin]

I just found out, if Koeman only spoke for 40 seconds on the phone to expel Suarez from his squad this season. Is this good for a world coach? Maybe it's his right but I think it's very disrespectful. But Suarez really doesn't know if it's Koeman's plan or indeed the Barcelona management. Actually if I were the coach I would keep him.

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/atletico-madrid/2021/10/06/615dea6b46163f3f9e8b460e.html

[Yogee]

I just found out, if Koeman only spoke for 40 seconds on the phone to expel Suarez from his squad this season. Is this good for a world coach? Maybe it's his right but I think it's very disrespectful. But Suarez really doesn't know if it's Koeman's plan or indeed the Barcelona management.

A lot of things already happened since this phone call and I don't think we should make this a big deal. It doesn't really matter now if it was disrespectful or not.

Actually if I were the coach I would keep him.

I'm sure you would since you could already see the current state of Barcelona. Koeman had a lot of things to consider as a coach including the financial situation of the club so let's just respect the decision and move on.

[Trofo]

I just found out, if Koeman only spoke for 40 seconds on the phone to expel Suarez from his squad this season. Is this good for a world coach? Maybe it's his right but I think it's very disrespectful. But Suarez really doesn't know if it's Koeman's plan or indeed the Barcelona management.

A lot of things already happened since this phone call and I don't think we should make this a big deal. It doesn't really matter now if it was disrespectful or not.

Actually if I were the coach I would keep him.

I'm sure you would since you could already see the current state of Barcelona. Koeman had a lot of things to consider as a coach including the financial situation of the club so let's just respect the decision and move on.

I don't think it was Koeman's decision. It smells like board decision and they just used new coach to do their dirty job. What manager would kick out his best striker immediately after coming to the club? That must have been decision made with regards to Suarez age and his wages. Somebody decided there is a discrepancy and that he is not worth it. Bad call in retrospective but understandable from financial point of view.

Same how Real got rid of Ramos and many other ageing greats before him.

[Pulsar77]

Barcelona - Valencia game next weekend will be the biggest game of the week. Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid aren't going to play any game as their games are postponed. Barcelona will play one of their hardest games in the league. Because I see a much more powerful Valencia this season. And while Barcelona are this bad, Valencia can have a chance to get a point or even a win maybe. Koeman will have a tough job to do here. I think that Valencia will score first and Barcelona will equalize the score. But I don't expect Valencia to lose at the end.

[jostorres]

Laporta keeps Ronald Koeman because this is related to their financial condition which is currently not getting better. If Laporta decides to sack Koeman, then Barcelona will have to pay around 12 million euros in compensation. It is not a small value, given their poor financial condition.

If they insist on sacking Koeman then they also don't have many options to choose a new coach. According to La Liga rules, Barcelona only has a budget limit of 3.91 million Euros that can be used to sign new coaches.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/barcelona-espbarcelona/story/4487945/barcelonas-money-crisis-forced-lionel-messi-out-will-it-leave-them-stuck-with-ronald-koeman

We should not forget that Barcelona both has a bad financial situation but also has cap situation as well which are two totally different stuff. Let's assume that someone just gives Barcelona 1 billion dollars out of nowhere, they still can't pay everyone 50 million euro per year, the la liga cap wouldn't allow that (and financial fair play doesn't allow cash injections that much) so it is obvious that they would not be able to buy anyone they want or fire anyone they want.

However I would assume that firing the coach doesn't reflect on the salary cap, hence if they fire the manager, and get a new one, I would assume it could still be fine. For example if they fired Koeman at the end of the season, it will be under 10 million euro debt, and they could come to mutual agreement to drop it lower as well, like 5 million hopefully, then get another coach for 7 million and they would be basically where they are already. Cap untouched, and finances can be paid without too much difficulty.

[Spack17]

I agree with people who are saying that Valencia are a really tough opponent in this season. They are not like the last season anymore. They have had a more solid performance in their matches so far. They made big difficulties for even the leader Real Madrid. And they should be able to do more than that against Barcelona when we look at it from a logical aspect. Barcelona's job will be very hard in that match.

[blackened515]

Barcelona - Valencia game next weekend will be the biggest game of the week. Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid aren't going to play any game as their games are postponed. Barcelona will play one of their hardest games in the league. Because I see a much more powerful Valencia this season. And while Barcelona are this bad, Valencia can have a chance to get a point or even a win maybe. Koeman will have a tough job to do here. I think that Valencia will score first and Barcelona will equalize the score. But I don't expect Valencia to lose at the end.

This is an opportunity for Valencia to slide up on the table, since Real Madrid won't be playing this weekend. They have drawn their last 2 matches. While Barcelona lost their Last match, they will probably try to win against Valencia to recover for their lost points, but it won't be an easy winning. However, Barcelona's performance haven't been stable, am having doubt about them winning the match, they may end up drawing the game. They need to improve their performance, and also introduce a strong and good strategy of playing.

[AndySt]

I just found out, if Koeman only spoke for 40 seconds on the phone to expel Suarez from his squad this season. Is this good for a world coach? Maybe it's his right but I think it's very disrespectful. But Suarez really doesn't know if it's Koeman's plan or indeed the Barcelona management.

A lot of things already happened since this phone call and I don't think we should make this a big deal. It doesn't really matter now if it was disrespectful or not.

Actually if I were the coach I would keep him.

I'm sure you would since you could already see the current state of Barcelona. Koeman had a lot of things to consider as a coach including the financial situation of the club so let's just respect the decision and move on.

I don't think it was Koeman's decision. It smells like board decision and they just used new coach to do their dirty job. What manager would kick out his best striker immediately after coming to the club? That must have been decision made with regards to Suarez age and his wages. Somebody decided there is a discrepancy and that he is not worth it. Bad call in retrospective but understandable from financial point of view.
Same how Real got rid of Ramos and many other ageing greats before him.

I would put it a little differently that the main person making the decision on the dismissal of Suarez was the management of the club and Koeman was not a categorical opponent of this decision. Do not forget how Koeman formulated the decision in a telephone conversation that he personally does not count on the player, but if the decision is not made, Suarez will take part in the next game. All this suggests that Koeman was clearly not the initiator of parting with the player. Although I quite admit the situation that the Barcelona management could be interested in the opinion of the head coach about which of the expensive players the club could part with in order to save and rebuild the squad. Suarez himself, in a recent interview, insists that Koeman did not specifically explain who initiated the rupture of relations with the club.